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[–]zozozie 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Bro when you say you are "getting sex, but not with the girls you really want to fuck" aren't you basically judging females on what you don't want to be judged on?
Cause your point is right, that looks do matter, but you are basically insinutating that you want to fuck good looking girls who are higher up the scale of 10? Yet you are quick to judge girls who want good looking guys?
Bro, I completely agree with everything you are saying and your points do make completely make sense, but it seems a tad bit hypocritical, that you are seem to be averse to when girls value good looks more than average looking, yet it seems like you have the same mentality they do?
[–]VeliVoy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Not the model level but anything good looking should do... It isn't as much fun having sex with avg/below avg looking girks
[–]Willstdumitmirgehen 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I mean, you said you aren't that good looking either, so you are judging them as well.
[–]VeliVoy -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yes, that's why I want a cute girl
[–]altfangirl 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
you want a cute girl but you said you’re average looking. why would a cute girl want you if you’re not cute?
btw i think beauty is subjective, i’m just using your own logic against you
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I want a cute girl.
I am bored of the avg looking ones
[–]altfangirl 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
okay well cute girls are probably bored of average looking men like you then
[–]VeliVoy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not really. Once I show them my money and they'd drop their panties
[–]altfangirl 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
if that’s true then why are you on here complaining about how you don’t get cute girls?
[–]VeliVoy 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah man- I am thankful, but life's still quite unfair... The things that you can never control is what ppl judge you based on.
I earn good money. Got a stable job. Nice car. About to buy a house. But what I get judged on is what I look like. Smh. I'd do what it takes if it was in my control to change what I look like- I have already peaked (Dress well, nice perfume, & haircuts) and my peak is still less attractive than what the good looking guys look like without taking a shower for two days straight.
[–]coachmelloweyes 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Believe me.. I know how important looks are. I realised when a few girls said that I was hot but my game was shit, but still fucked (I couldn’t escalate smoothly).
The advice I’d give you is to get your body on point… it does well to sexualise you.
I used to hide my muscles cos I didn’t wanna be a try hard.. but it got really hot this summer so I wore less.. and the eagerness of women was off the charts. It went from a polite smile to looking me up and down.
But Yh. I’m here to validate your frustration.. because looks matter tremendously. But lucky for men.. there’s so many ways to compensate.
[–]MigasEnsopado -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why are you responding to yourself?
[–]VeliVoy 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I replied to the very first comment, I think it got flagged
[–]El0ngatedMan 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This just sounds like excuses.
Here’s the deal: less attractive dudes can and do get hot chicks. Everyone has seen this when they’re out and wonder “why is that chick with that dude.”
The point is, looks can help a lot but they are not a hardline requirement to attracting top quality women.
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk man... I don't see younger girls with avg looking guys, it's common among the more matured folks, mid/late 20s. Most of the college girls are behind hot looking men.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s the exception not the rule how many couples out of 1000s of couples do you see are like that?
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Everything u said is true but ppl hate it
[–]VeliVoy 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Ikr... I have seen it happening first hand. Not saying your game doesn't matter, your game does matter! Can get you tons of girls! But there's a limit to that! And the limit is things that you can't control, which sucks! Big time!
Imagine thinking being really confident, or funny is gonna make you stand out from all the 10s of confident, funny, rich and good looking men who are in her dms lmfao
[–]Khower 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP you're spewing a sob story for yourself. A truly confident man is 1/1000. All those good looking guys in her dms aren't what you think they are and until you realize everyone else is insecure, struggling, and unsure of themselves too then you'll never realize the way out of your situation
[–]Kadabrium 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
go to r/femboy and tell them looks matter
[–]VeliVoy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why
[–]kiramdahanett 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
seems like you living in your head & influenced by dating roaches , just go to real life.
This is field report. I been out there for long... I have been wanting to make this post for a long time.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you don’t think there’s any validity to what he’s saying?
[–]No-Historian-6391 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Work on your looks then
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Fucked genetics
[–]No-Historian-6391 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
How so, cross eyed cleft lip and a big crooked nose with no jaw line ?
This, yes
[–]J33P88 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (42 children) | Copy Link
So you're upset that you're only getting less attractive girls because you're less attractive? I don't see why you'd be complaining about being judged based on your looks when that's obviously how you judge women as well.
[–]VeliVoy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (41 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I deserve better
[–]J33P88 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link
So do they, and since you're having this problem, they realize this and curb you.
[–]VeliVoy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (39 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that's why I should get hot girls
[–]J33P88 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Why would a hot girl want to go out with you? You say you're average looking, which ok, may or may not be the reason you're not succeeding. But beyond that all I'm seeing is a narcissist. That's not an attractive quality and can be easy to pick up on. At the very least you're extremely entitled, another unattractive quality. I think maybe you haven't worked on your personality as much as you claim.
[–]ftdrain -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Girls love narcissists, they just have to be good looking
[–]VeliVoy -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is facts, if you have the looks, you can easily pull the rude/narcissist/bad boy and girls would be all over you.
[–]altfangirl 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
this is simply not true. why the fuck would anyone like a selfish, self-centered prick? there’s no appeal
Maybe not to you
[–]altfangirl 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what is the appeal of dating a selfish person? please do tell me
[–]VeliVoy -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link
I am rich. All hot girls should go with me. I deserve to only fuck solid 10s. Anything below that is an attack on my standards. You know where the models @/s
[–]J33P88 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Lmfao 🤣 wow bro. Holy shit! That is some next level delusion right there. First not all hot girls give a fuck about money. Second, you said you make good money and are about to buy a house...that doesn't necessarily equal "rich". Well good luck out there man.
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Thank you. About to smash my new model gf in my new house which has a swimming pool in it
[–]J33P88 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The swimming pool is inside the house? Cool? Have fun with all that
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks, an indoor swimming pool.
[–]PsychologicalHome239 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol then why are you complaining?
It was said sarcastically
[–]J33P88 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I also want to point out that most women also have standards. Are the standards always equal to their attractiveness, probably not as you know all too well
[–]altfangirl 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
go hire a prostitute or a sugar baby then? if you want a woman that’s after money, then literally go find one where that’s their literal job
[–]Skizznitt 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
With this shitty attitude, you're lucky you're getting any girls at all. Fuck man, it's no wonder chicks don't want to be around you, has NOTHING to do with your looks, you sound like a fucking douche.
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Girls want to be around me. Not the ones I want around me.
[–]Skizznitt 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
So let me get this straight, you're average, and just feel entitled that you should be getting hot chicks? You're doing the exact same thing you're bitching about women doing to you, quit being hypocritical.
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I should be getting hot chicks but I am not, cos life's unfair and there's nothing you or I can do about it
[–]Skizznitt 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
You'll never get any hot chicks with that entitled attitude.
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I'd just throw some of my money ig
no life’s not unfair. according to you you’re getting average girls and you’re average so therefore life is completely fair
[–]unapologetic_relief 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Why do you deserve hot girls if you're not hot yourself?
Apart from ugly, you're also entitled and a bitch. I think you're getting more than you deserve.
I deserve more
[–]Sensitive_Yam_6661 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
tbh you just sound like an incel.
[–]VeliVoy 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Wait, I do attract girls just not the ones I want.
[–]Sensitive_Yam_6661 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
And i can see why. Look at the shit you are saying here. What kind of selfrespecting woman would ever go out with someone like that?
[–]VeliVoy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
What shit
[–]Sensitive_Yam_6661 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
For example:
-"Yes, I deserve better" -"Yeah, that's why I should get hot girls" -"Owning one Mercedes is better than owning three Kia Souls." You're talking about people for christ sake. Women are human too. -"Only the ugly/average girls fall for these and are willing to fuck me."
To name a few.
It's not your looks that screw you over, it's your fucking personality.
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It was said sarcastically. I have used /s
[–]Sensitive_Yam_6661 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wich by the way is A SINGLE FUCKING COMMENT in wich you wrote /s.
Pretty much ALL your comments scream how shitty your personality is. I'm telling you again, it's not your looks, it's your personality and the vibe you give off. Women sense that shit. There are plenty of hot women with below average boyfriends.
I replied sarcastically to the ones who were pulling it against me. So I just played along. Like you are doing rn.
[–]Sensitive_Yam_6661 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that's why each and every one of your comment threads here is dripping with incel mindset... Whatever dude, you do you.
In not a single one of the comments i quoted you used /s.... I did not quote from the /s one on purpose.
You telling me all your comments here were sarcastic?
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
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That's the problem. I am not white
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[–]Willstdumitmirgehen 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can confirm that getting jacked helps. I'm a woman.
[–]willgo-waggins 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You sound bitter and like you want shit handed to you.
Get yourself a better education and job to make better money. Have nice stuff, dress well and be stylish. Be clever and funny and social. Make women friends instead of hating them and looking at women as a hole in the mattress like you obviously do from your original post here.
You can do a LOT of things to make up for being an average looking guy to be able to score in those upper ranges. But it takes work and effort not just bitching about losing the genetic lottery.
[–]atomant88 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
This rant has nothing to do with game
Looks are a factor, but game is the bigger factor. I'm average looking, no issues with girls. Upgrade your game and stop whining, deflecting, and wallowing in self pity. Take ownership of your own failures, and your own success.
[–]VeliVoy -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
I get girls, getting girls is not the problem, a solid 2 pussy feels the same as a solid 9 but there's a difference between the two. As I said, game only takes you so far- Owning one Mercedes is better than owning three Kia Souls. You get my point.
[–]atomant88 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
your point is your game sucks and you're blaming it on your appearance. and by extension trying to blame women for your failures. stop blaming others and level up your game.
[–]VeliVoy -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Blaming the game is a nice cope but not really. I've been out there for years now, if you really out there, you'd know how much looks matter than the game itself. It's unfair. No game's gonna save you tbh. You can't play if you ain't selected in the team lol, and the team is made up of all the rich and good looking men.
Now lowering your standards, sure. You can get as many girls as you want, fuck them and what not. But I am not talking about that here. I am talking about the hot girls.
[–]agileipa 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You re delusional. You haven’t even fucked a hot girl so how would you know? By your own admission you said you haven’t fucked a 10. Sure looks matter but it is 80% your personality. Looks are exactly the same value as everything else to a hot girl. 20% is made up from money, status, looks, job. At least with decent mentally minded hot girls. If looks mattered like you say then how are ugly guys dating hot women? How are old guys dating hot girls? How are bald guys? It’s your personality and just by creating this post shows your shit personality. Work on yourself, and maybe try to figure out how to give value to a hot girl first.
Not true
[–]agileipa 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And how would you know ? Unlike you I have fucked hot girls and they have confirmed this. I am not the best looking man. Don’t have a ton of money. In my 40 s. Bald. Divorced. I had sex with 2 girls that I know you would consider a 10 last month. So pls provide more evidence or proof if you’re going to make blanket statements like this. I will give you a hint into my success. I am funny. Which is a big part of my personality.
Nope, not true for everyone
[–]agileipa 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah keep up your limiting belief s. They seem to be serving you well.
[–]atomant88 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
im not blaming the game, im blaming your game. you been out there for years, and you still sucks. cause you wont take responsibility for your failures and actually improve. easier to blame women. go cry a river over it
[–]VeliVoy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Here we have a male feminist! Someone who'd bring out "he's blaming women" card out of thin air for female validation. Nobody ever talked about blaming women or anything.
I hope someone let's you hit for being a female ally, haha. Good going. Tons of women dig male feminist!
[–]ftdrain -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea im willing to bet that this dude gets 0 quality pussy and will continue to do so in his lifetime
[–]atomant88 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm nonbinary thanks :P
and blaming 'feminism' for pointing out your sexism is idiotic. dropping the sexism will help you if you ever really want to level up your game. but it's clear you'd rather just stew and keep treading water.
[–]VeliVoy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Man I am looking to seduce women here, not to attend a class in tens of genders, binary/non binary or sexism.
[–]atomant88 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
no, you're looking to make excuses about why your game is weak so you dont have to improve yourself.
seduction isnt gendered. but it needs to have respect, and self awareness. two things you lack.
lol OP is hopeless. no point in trying to give him reasonable advice. he can continue living his miserable life
[–]hopesy123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Game plays a big part, but since you have decided that isn’t working, then there’s only some options left. Simple. You want hotter girls, then you need to be on their level, or at least hotter than you are now. If you aren’t blessed with good looks then pay for it, get plastic surgery, I recommend from Korea, they are famous for good plastic surgery that looks naturally, use steroids to get bigger, idk how tall you are...but obviously all these can come with side effects, but yeah that’s life guess. So get money and pay to get hot.
I am 5'11, tall in my country. I am considering getting a nose job from Turkey. Why do you think Korea is better?
[–]hopesy123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Korea industry for beauty is huge, not only for plastic surgery, but for skincare, makeup and fitness and so on. They also have good aftercare afterwards and high professionalism. I have seen their jaw line surgery and they are very good (as well as nose jobs) idk a whole lot about Turkey but they may also be pretty good
Thanks for this. I'd look it up!!
[–]hopesy123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No problem, just always do the research throughly and good luck
[–]Skizznitt 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Steroids don't magically just make you bigger. You still have to know how to eat to put on muscle, still have to be putting in the work at the gym, and getting really good sleep every night. Using steroids with no history of working out first is a very bad idea. You'd be taking a ton of unnecessary risk taxing your body, and get almost nothing out of it.
Eh just a shortcut really, or a little boost if you will, idk if OP have a history of working out or not so I didn’t take any of that into consideration, but I’m hopeful that OP will also make his own research at the end of the day to decide if it’s worthy taking or not.
[–]External_Lifeguard49 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Looks don’t matter. Game is everything. Period.
False. Period.
[–]VeliVoy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (22 children) | Copy Link
The same girl who would be giving me attitude would be the one staying up late in the night, change her sleep schedule so she could talk to the good looking guy- They text them, they leave all of their work in between and reply to them. I text them, "they were too busy to reply". Not that it has happened with just one girl. Multiple times man.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Maybe because they actually like talking to them.
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
No, because they're hot.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
And your personality is off-putting
No
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're literally talking to a hot woman and I am telling you- you're an idiot lol
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
And your personality is off-putting. It doesn't matter if a guy is hott if he is a jackass
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The guys are rude & treat them like shit
Go touch grass, reading pickup books doesn't make you an expert in dating. I watch ppl in the real world.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If a guy is rude (like you are) I don't owe them anything and won't keep messaging or talking to them just because I initially thought they were attractive. You don't understand women.
[–]VeliVoy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Sure, get off my post
"I want hot women!" "OK. Here's how you get hot women." "NO! I already know everything and I'm a victim. Get off my post!" Don't make a public post on Reddit if you don't want comments.
Get off my post
I'm sorry, but you're uglier on the inside
[–]PsychologicalHome239 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
And how do you know they were texting some good looking guy? If you talk to her the same way you're talking up here, no wonder she gives you attitude doesn't want to talk to you.
Oh, it's not hard to know. You talk to their friends, they accidentally mention something and you can dig from there. There are lots of ways.
[–]PsychologicalHome239 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like she dodged a bullet by deciding to talk to someone else.
There are better ways to cope with your insecurities than hating on strangers online btw
[–]PsychologicalHome239 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There are better ways to cope with yours than to hate on women who don't want to fuck you, BTW. ;)
I love women, lol. Just not your kind. Pity whoever has to deal with your kind. Childhood trauma isn't an excuse to hate on ppl. Seek professional help maybe
I'm not referring to anything you've said to me - I'm referring to the way you've talked about the chicks who won't fuck you lol
Yeah cool
[–]Handle-me-timber -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Hopefully you’re working on improving yourself at the same time. About the time you start making big moves in career and staying fit, all of a sudden you’re banging 7 and 8’s. You won’t get 9’s and 10’s consistently without being a top 10% dude, but you can find one occasionally.
[–]VeliVoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link
I do find 7's 8's (rare instance) but those ones keep me as a backup. I am serious about my career, can buy them gifts, given them a luxurious life so... lol. Meanwhile, still simping on their 9/10 crush, so in case it works they'd leave me and if it doesn't they stick till they find the other good looking guy.
The 5's/6's got options too, but they tend to stick for longer
[–]Handle-me-timber -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
So become that guy. I’m telling you any guy can raise 2 or 3 points just by building muscle and maintaining a 10-15% body fat level. Average man is over 21% so the older you are, the more you stand out from them, and the better your options become.
[–]ftdrain -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Bro any random gym has plenty of jacked guys with unredeemable faces, they do not slay, stop delluding yourself.
[–]Handle-me-timber 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh you mean the dudes who don’t even get pussy at 25. Those dudes? You realize that 80% of men get no consistent play. And just to be consistently be getting some like our dude here means he’s already above 80% of the dudes out there.
[–]VeliVoy -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I've peaked physically. I go to the gym, got a muscular body. Dress well. Groom well. Do everything but my facial features keep fucking me up. Only the ugly/average girls fall for these and are willing to fuck me.
[–]Lighthero34 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I've peaked physically.
I guarantee you haven't. Post a photo to your reddit of your physique, I'm willing to bet you aren't at your peak
[–]El0ngatedMan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmao the sheer audacity of that statement has me dyin’.
This OP is just whining cuz his game is not good enough to get what he wants
[–]VeliVoy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, not true
[–]Skizznitt 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I lol'd at that. Dude probably weighs a buck fifty and thinks he's peaked.
[–]Handle-me-timber -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Trust me. The longer you maintain that level, the better it gets for you. And btw you’ll be getting the hot girls that are in college, not the girls that are getting older like you. You really think that your ancestors only reproduced by being Adonis? 😂
Oh, I am 24 and working. Mostly pick up girls my age, through mutuals or house parties. The hot ones are quick to friend zone me lol. Not that I give a fuck but when it happens too many times it affects you a little....
[–]Handle-me-timber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well on the bright side you’re still getting some while you’re waiting. I get the feeling there’s a lot of people on this sub who believe that once you’re 25 you can’t become any more attractive. It’s far from true.
[–]321gumby 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So stop being average... I was a skinny-fat dad 4 years ago. Gym, style, attitude and im still like dude I can't believe this girl is hanging out with me....and she be like " you fucking other girls arnt you.... "
Get better or don't...
[–]ftdrain 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Gym wont save an uggo, it will add a couple points to a high end normie tho, like a 6 can get close to an 8 which is Chad territory, but a 3 is a 3 (there are nuances, but generally you can tell before the dude enters the gym), unfortunately the gym wont save everyone.
True, tons of ugly looking men are jacked, doesn't get them anything unless the girl is specifically into just muscles
[–]revente 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't go after 5s and 6s. Even if you're average, they won't be easier to get. And they are usually much bitchier.
Also it's much easier to pick up a girl that makes you very horny.
[–]Alternative_Eye_2799 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Buddy you are average looks dont for average looking people, looks only matter for people below average
[–]Archyblackcat 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro the problem is that the girls you wanna fuck are only 1 in 4 .. the top 25% .. so obviously they’re gonna be in more demand.. so just become more attractive to get into the top 25% in looks for men.. this should be easily achievable if you’re a solid 6/10 .. just put on some muscles, wear clothes that showcase your figure (your most attractive asset) and get a cool hair cut and stay well groomed( get a hair cut every 10 days) then you’ll be able to get the girls you can’t get rightnow.. you will still be rejected a lot because good looking men still get rejected by good looking girls but you will be able to land a solid 8 -9 at least sooner or later
[–]Health077 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh so your getting anal
Damn boi
Girls really do care about personality as much or more as looks on average.
Psychological studies prove it, if you think the opposite you probably don't have the personality you think you do and it doesn't translate well to dating
Sure looks make hooking up easier, but for finding a partner... girls won't take the good looking chump seriously.
There's comfort in telling yourself something outside of your control is why you aren't getting anywhere in dating but that's the easy way out. Do the real work and the girls follow.
[–]JoeBeezy123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
sorry to break it to you man, but looks certainly don't matter. You may be telling yourself that to fill the void of whatever self fulfilling prophecy you believe in but its certainly not the case. If that's the attitude you have then maybe you don't deserve the girls that you want. I can tell you first hand, I am a registered nerd, the Harry Potter looking type, I am 135 lb's brown hair and wear glasses. I changed my behaviors and attitude towards everything when I was 20 and (not to toot my own or anything) things have dramatically changed for the better, my haircut, my style in clothes, my attitude and ever since I've never had a problem walking up or talking to women, and even if I do get rejected I love it because its a learning expirience. Am I really gonna compete with a bodybuilder? absolutely not, and that's the reality of life, some people have good genetics, but you can't worry about that and its bullshit if you do, how do you know if that good looking person wasn't ugly at one point when they were younger and actually did something about it ( working out and taking care of themselves and dressing nice) and got to where they are now? I am not a fem-guru but I know first hand that people in general like people who take care of themselves. I already know your gonna say "oh yea I do take care of yourself". Well its not enough, change your attitude, change your personality, because clearly the current one you have isn't working so how's it gonna help you long term down the road? you need to change, you also need to have a I don't give a fuck attitude if you fail with one girl. there's millions of others. If a girl doesn't want my number you know what I do? I smile and laugh politely and say "Its no problem, I totally understand " and walk away..NEXT..it's that simple. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and change, more importantly get those toxic thoughts of looks matter, your breeding more incels by saying that, and I've experienced and met more people who were uglier, shorter and out of the norm not good looking with way more attractive partners than I'll ever dream of having in my life.
[–]rjones416 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
when i walk around the city i see average and even ugly guys with hot girls all the time.
[–]YerekYeeter 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One of the truest things I've ever heard
If you're attractive the world is alot nicer for you and you don't even notice
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