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[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Understand you can’t do shit to change it and the future is malleable
[–]No-Chad-8324 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
ye girls don't normally give 2nd chances to anyone.
[–]cutanddried 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, your attitude sucks and what you're saying just isn't true
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not true at all :)
They give plenty of chances, if they are curious and interested. You just have to pick any of them and not be a complete douche.
[–]No-Chad-8324 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Prove it!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What do you by "prove it"?
That's based on my experience. I just recently went on dates with this woman, where on the first date, we only had a short goodbuy hug. On the second date, she wanted to watch a movie at my place. We did, but I still didn't touch or kiss her, beyond the goodbye hug. Only on the third date did things escalate to sex.
Pretty sure, she'd had wanted more, when she came over to "watch" a movie.
Same with other dates. They give plenty of opportunities and it's enough to take one of them, but it doesn't have to be the first one.
[–]BrunoFromBrazil 50 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Just go on more dates.
If you only have one date per month, you'll spend the rest of the month thinking about that date.
If you have 3 dates per week, I promise you won't even remember what you did on each date.
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Preach brotha
[–]ahmetmakesyouwet 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How’d you fuck up
[–]No-Chad-8324 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Is this from experience? Can you explain to us how you were able to successfully get 3 dates/week? How many girls did you have to approach to get their?
[–]PondScum420 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Def not average, even for someone who dates a lot. That’s somebody who puts a lot of effort in.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
thats also lowkey tiring imo. thats 2 other nights i could be doing something else lol. but i respect the hustle.
[–]PondScum420 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I don’t have enough energy for that either lol
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[–]No-Chad-8324 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice!
[–]BrunoFromBrazil 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not hard to do with Tinder. Three is my hard limit, more than that and I don't have time for anything else.
But pretty much anyone can go on 7 dates a week with dating apps. Just optimize your tinder profile & your instagram, learn some text game tactics and put in the time.
[–]leelbeach 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How the hell do you get the opportunity to go on that many dates? Let alone 1 a month?
[–]SirMattingtons 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Going on more dates is a good solution
Also, ruminating on all of your past problems is also a pretty good thing anyways, it'll make sure you don't do it again
[–]FlanneryODostoevsky 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
If a girl likes you she likes you. You can double text say dumb shit or whatever and she will still be interested. If she suddenly stops talking to you because of one simple thing you did then she ain’t worth your time.
[–]Altruistic_Field2134 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. I have seen my friends make objectively wrong moves that this community would hound them for (not being confident, acting completely detached from the situation, being ultra aggressive with sexual desire, looking like he just came out of a commercial for least fashionably dressed male, etc) and they were able to get the woman. In reverse I have seen dudes who have done some the best game I have ever seen strike out. Difference. I could tell when the woman was into them (first example) and when they were not (second example).
[–]VoiceAccomplished502 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Yeah this is painfully true. Just fucked up with two potential hookups from tinder all it took was one sentence which wasn’t really that bad 🥲
[–]FlanneryODostoevsky 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Rejection is the first thing we gotta get used to.
[–]VoiceAccomplished502 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Now make it 4 girls that were dtf and i fucked it up somehow all in one week. Its a tough pill to swallow, im not doin so hot rn 🤒
[–]FlanneryODostoevsky 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How you know they were down?
[–]VoiceAccomplished502 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
First girl i sent a pick up line and she said she was freaky and was down for me to find out how freaky she was. we exchange snaps i ask what shes up to she says shes studying i say im thinking of all the naughty things i wanna do to her. She leaves me on open and when i follow up with her the next day to see how her exam went shes left me on delivered since.
Second girl i told her i was down to do a few things to raise a few noise complaints and said she was down and gave me a snap. We talked off and on over the course of the week and made plans to meet today but she said she forgot and made plans to go the bar and made no attempt to reschedule when i asked.
Third Girl said i should come see how naughty she really was. We exchange numbers and said next week i was all hers. We talk for a bit and i ask her if she minds me calling her baby, or what she likes to be called (hoping she would say you can call me anything you want) but she left me on delivered. When i followed up with her two days later on what day worked for her next week still nothing, but she continued to post on her snap.
Fourth girl said she wanted to go on a sexually charged sheetz run. We talk freaky for a bit and i ask her when shes free. She was being vague and not committing to a day saying she was very busy and wont be free for atleast a week but may be free saturday. I said okay, we didnt talk since. I follow up with her thursday to see if she was free and she said forgot about me and made plans with other people and had i talked to her during the 5 days we woulda linked on friday (even tho she originally said she wasnt free that day).
I wouldnt take this so seriously if i had options, but honestly i dont 🤷🏾♂️
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dann, you go straight to the real talk.
I've never had such discussions before meeting them :) plenty of time to discuss preferences in person
[–]VoiceAccomplished502 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Makes sense. It was late and i was horny. I instantly regretted asking that when post nut clarity hit LOL
[–]FlanneryODostoevsky 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sounds like bad luck mostly. I’d say try to set a day and time instead of asking them but then again I’m currently talking to someone with whom the conversation has been about setting a day and time for like 2 weeks. Granted she wants a relationship but still when they’re interested they just are.
[–]VoiceAccomplished502 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks ill give that a shot next time. Best of luck on your girl!
[–]Woujo 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
1) assume the smallest possible mistake
2) if you cant figure out what the mistake was, assume it was something out of your control
3) realise most of the reason you get rejected has nothing to do with you
[–]No-Chad-8324 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
sure and to add on to what u/Woujo said, you should realize that your just dating her and she's not your girlfriend. when you dating girls its not that serious.
[–]maplemario 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hang out with people who don’t make you self conscious every day.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do the same sometimes. I suggest getting the rest of your life outside of dating sorted, if it's not already. Dating should be part of an already rich life, not the thing only thing that makes your life enjoyable. And having the rest of your life in order is the best thing you can do to improve your dating life.
Apart from that, it's good to a certain extent to mull over what you could have done differently so you can learn. But if it's making you unhappy, this ruminating is part of what you're doing wrong. If you think of it that way, that obsessing and getting into a negative mindset is a mistake you're making that will hinder future dates, it gives yourself the permission to move on. That's a mistake that you do still have the ability to fix.
It can get very frustrating if things keep on not working out. But I'm sure you're making progress and learning, little by little.
double texting
There are some instances where double texting is okay.
being needy
Ask yourself why you were being needy? But the answer doesn't matter though because when it comes to dating girls, you should be dating multiple girls at the same time until one of those girls asks you to be her boyfriend.
[–]PondScum420 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Manage your expectations from the beginning. Remember nothings promised. Remember there will always (and I mean always) be another woman. Don’t give up, keep getting back on the horse. You’ll get frustrated and want to quit, but those are the moments where you have break throughs.
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
yea that makes sense. this isn’t a test, its an experience. you didn’t do anything “wrong” in a situation b/c people aren’t cheat codes.
if you didn’t like a way you acted in a certain situation, then own that and you’ll see a change.
Seeing these situations as a place where there’s a right and wrong way to act is a recipe for inadequacy.
ofc there’s some pretty heinous stuff and basic social skills are important, but most of this is probably in your head.
It’s a numbers game. unless you’re sending a text every hour on the hour, or paragraphs without paragraphs in response, “double” or even triple texting is fine.
everything is context dependent and the only way you can figure out the best way to move in a certain context is to practice messing up a few times. but most times, messing up isn’t doing the wrong thing, its letting your mind get the better of you.
its feeling like you aren’t enough, so when anyone decides not to keep you in your life, you take it more personally than they meant it when they rejected or ghosted.
It’s really easy go down that path. I have an issue w/ rejection sensitivity so it happens ever time I feel rejected.
It’s a condition, so its highly unlikely that that part of myself will ever change.
BUT, I’m building skills over time so if I get knocked down, I don’t stay down, and that’s what’s important.
You’re worthy and deserving of the things you want as long as you work hard to get them.
Of course expectation management is always a factor, but you can’t know what to expect until you’ve seen enough unexpected scenarios to manage your expectations.
Keep working at it OP. You’ll get there.
Just be mindful that if you’re doing it right, “there” is not going to be exactly the way you thought it’d be, but there’s no real wrong way to become your best self if you put in the work.
[–]RedEyeBlackEye1 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FOCUS ON WHAT YOU DID RIGHT, now do MORE of THAT, and LESS of the other shit.
[–]burncushlikewood 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Date game is not my specialty, I struggle with determining when to make a move or be passive, sometimes I make a move too early, then she flakes, sometimes I make a move too late then she flakes. That's why I like night game, it's just a fluid process, just game the girl and take her home, less talking and just pure dance floor game. Women go to clubs to meet guys I just find it the best way for me to game girls. I also like day game as well, but night game is king, when I was in university I approached hundreds of girls via the dancefloor and i got really good at it
Did these turn into something more, like not necessarily long relationships, but meeting up regularly?
[–]burncushlikewood 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea one of the pulls I met up with a few times, but most of them were just a hit and quit type situation
[–]QuestionsQ75 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am by no means implying that this is easy, but the solution is simple. Wasted energy/productivity; there is absolutely nothing that can be done to reverse what happened. Holding on to it is doing nothing but damaging you, your self-esteem, your mental, etc. Is that productive? Does that help you? Who you are worrying about, probably isn't worrying about it, and is sleeping peacefully at night. You made a mistake because that's how we learn. That's all this is; another opportunity to learn/grow.
[–]Calamity__Bane 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Apply the lesson to the next one
[–]Ok-You-1912 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
fuck dat hoe and move on
[–]Ancient_Leader5572 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop thinking about what you could have done. That’s unproductive. Think about what you’re going to do next.
Sometimes there is no answer for why people don’t respond. Other times there are reasons, but they aren’t communicated. Either way, your time is worth more than ruminating on the past that will just leave you feeling unfulfilled. So focus on disengaging from them and work on meeting someone new.
[–]theseoulplayer -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know what the happiest animal in the world is? A goldfish.
Know why? They have a 10 second memory.
Be a goldfish, OP.
[–]alexandhisworld -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop treating women like objects that you can obtain and see interactions with people as interactions with people.
[–]its4thecatlol 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ugh I don't really deal with loss well. Going back to square 1 always hurts a little. They say the best way to get over somebody is to get under someone else, and I've found it to usually be true. No one you weren't married to is such a special snowflake that you'll never find someone else to give you the same feelings. Every time I was down on myself for striking out with a girl, there was always a new one right around the corner. You have to go out and find them though. Just meet more people. You have to be confident you'll find someone better, and you will. Trust me.
[–]dr34dnaught 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't live in the past. Process what could have been done better and use that wisdom to move forward and make better decisions in the future.
[–]leinlin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Google CPTSD
[–]guidop91 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Write it down, just for yourself, in the most detailed manner you can. This will be as if you are telling someone, and it will take a lift of your brain. Make it structured, so you have something like:
Some lessons one has to go through an experience to learn. The rumination is terrible but it must be there for a reason. I think once you write it down it'll help to downsize it.
[–]Shadow__Account 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its a very valuable learning moment every time, don’t let it go to waste. You quadruple texted and told her you loved her after one date? Ok dwell on it, analyze it learn from it and grow from it, that way your mistakes will help you become an upgraded version every time. Without mistakes like this, you won’t get better.
[–]silly-seafish 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it’s so easy to focus on the things you feel like you did “wrong” but that’s only partly in your control. like everyone is different and responds differently to different things and you should be more focused on being yourself than trying to make the right move. that’s how you find someone you can build a genuine connection with. someone who sees your weirdness and mess-ups and likes you regardless. it’s cliche but when you find the right person they aren’t going to walk away over something like a double text. just be you
Also often times your idea (the fantasy) of the chick is better than reality. Meaning your perception is tainted from reality. No one is perfect everyone has their shit even the hottest women with attractive personalities they just do a good job at hiding it.
[–]theseoulplayer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey man, I started writing out a response for you but it ended up being too long, so I posted it up on my blog. I go through 3 specific strategies to get past your mistakes that hopefully will help you to get past them and use them to further improve yourself!
You can read all of it here: https://www.theseoulplayer.com/game/how-to-forget-your-mistakes-and-become-better
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