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[–]DaydreamingMister 103 points104 points105 points 4 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link
Good job. And good takeaway observations.
P.S. Free advice: Avoid the common potential pitfall of naming a day of the week as part of your date invitation. Let your date invitation sound like:
"You seem like a cool person. We should get together for dinner - when are you free?" And then you shut up, and let her tell you what day she'll be available.
[–]Krish_GemSeason 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would recommend stating particular day. Everyone has a different experience though. Appreciate it.
[–]tigermax42 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've had good results by offering this day or that day: Thursday or Friday for example. Kind of a middle ground
[–]TheNerdsQuest 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've heard precisely the opposite - that you should state a specific date and time so that she doesn't have to stress about coming up with one. But who knows.
[–]DaydreamingMister 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I feel you.
The place I come from (and I have zero complaints about how my approach has worked out with the amazing women in my history) is, she is the one who knows her schedule...
And clicking a phone app to scroll her calendar real quick isn't "stressing about coming up with" the next Friday or Saturday that she didn't already give away...
And aside from the calendar date, after the woman names one that is open for her, then yes - the guy would proceed to suggest a time, like -
"Friday, you say? Sounds great. 7:00?"
If she says yes to that meeting time, guy proceeds with suggesting a location (that he already thought up prior to initiating the convo).
And just like that, three quick back-and-forth text exchanges, and he has established day/time/location with her in an efficient manner.
[–]Brucebruce90 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Hmm, to shreds you say? Well how is his wife holding up?"
[–]DaydreamingMister 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hello - um, did you drop your reply above in the intended location?
[–]Teamtoast 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
‘When are you free?’ can be quite pressuring for the girl. Just because someone is free doesn’t mean that they want to go somewhere with you
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seems like people are split on this, but i'm not sure it really matters. If you throw out a specific date and she says she's busy, if she does not make the effort to choose a new date then she just doesn't care. Plain and simple. I doubt one way works more then the other
[–]DaydreamingMister 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha If you haven’t noticed, women are pretty adept at NOT enabling you to end up on a date with them if they don’t want it…
Their move if not interested in your “when are you free?” dinner invitation is simply to talk about how busy they are, or say their schedule is up in the air, or do anything at all other than name a day of the week. They have no problem sidestepping the question if they are not keen; just as they know exactly how to make it easy for you to end up on a date with them if they are, in fact, keen.
[–]Lifedeather 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely open ended is the way to go, let her choose. Otherwise you sound forced and trying to make her go on ur schedule
[–]Another-Tinsdale 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I actually don’t like the “when free” approach - too much of it makes me feel like I’m always responsible to plan and find the time we are both available, instead of “hey I’m free these days, do any of these work best for you?” Then you are up front with your availability and show you put thought into a best time.
[–]DaydreamingMister 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Haha I don’t think you specified, but assuming you are the woman in the scenario, you can relax -- buddy isn’t needing or asking you to “plan and find the time you’re both available”.
He’s asking you… well, exactly what he asked you -
Looking at your own calendar, when are you open? Similar to the way adults schedule appointments every day for all aspects of life other than dating. No need to make it harder than it is whenever someone you like offers you the freedom to suit yourself schedule-wise (as opposed to him assuming you’ll be free on calendar dates he happens to throw out at you).
[–]Another-Tinsdale 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Just saying I’m not a fan of it. Everyone has their own opinions. To me it also says “I’m free all the time I’ll sit here and wait for you to be”
Again, my opinion. I’m not a fan. Other might enjoy it!
Edit to add - when I book appointments in real life I do the same - “how’s Monday at 2 or Wednesday at 4” “can you do brunch Sunday or dinner Tuesday?”
[–]WalidfromMorocco 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't know. I found it works better the other way. Usually I suggest a day I'm free on, and if she says she's busy that day I ask her what she's free on so I can see if it works for me.
[–]DaydreamingMister 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you love the results with that, don’t change.
[–]effreek 75 points76 points77 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
it's a numbers game! Hit the gym and look your best and the results get better. Good job. Good game!
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[–]effreek 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
well it's about attraction. So of course being in shape is a big part. Your face and your body. And your fashion too.
[–]kinstinctlol 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
gg
[–]Lifedeather 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No ree
[–]BrilliantOil8642 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Know me
[–]earsurgery9 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
good lesson.
When a girl is attracted to you, you really don't need to overthink the game side of things. It's extremely basic and only needs to be 'learnt' if someone has some very serious social issues (never had a friend, can't hold eye contact etc)
[–]TheBurgessChurchill 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
That's completely true. But I've discovered (from helping a lot of guys) that most guys that get into pickup are usually very socially awkward (borderline autistic) so they literally need to be told what to do every step of the way. But yes, if a guy has any social skills at all or ability to calibrate, then fucking a girl that is interested in you is very easy. You just need to lead her, maintain your frame and deal with autopilot and last minute resistance.
[–]mattrixd -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
What do you mean by last minute resistance?
[–]TheBurgessChurchill 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The resistance you might encounter just before you sleep with her. It usually not real resistance and she just doesn't want to feel pressured or look like a slut.
[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
He means even if she says no to sex, ignore her. Such is the toxicity in this vile sub.
[–]AvocadoCatnip 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It really doesn't mean that. The only toxicity here comes from you.
Last Minute Resistance happens when you're in a situation where you can have sex - i.e, you're alone, you have established that you like each other, and there is a bed or other convenient location available.
If she didn't want to have sex she would NOT be in that situation.
LMR happens because she doesn't want you or anyone else to think she's a slut.
There is a difference between being dominant, and leading, and rape, which guys like you do not get.
This guy is correct. There is a difference between, "No" and, "NO!". LMR is easy to deal with. You just have to agree with her and take a step back. In most cases, LMR happens because they don't want to feel pressured or look like a slut so when you take a step back, it lets them process their emotions so they can go forward.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Enjoy telling that to the judge when you catch a rape charge!
[–]AvocadoCatnip 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are talking about a subject that you obviously know nothing about.
You are speaking from your imagination.
You are unwilling to learn from people, not just me, who clearly have more direct experience of the subject.
You will continue to get the results you are getting, as long as you do this.
It's probably for the best. You'll probably implode, and women smell it on you. That's the main reason they stay away from you, because when you implode you will try and take whoever is around you with you.
What do you think of Elliot Rodger?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Okay gay boy!
[–]AvocadoCatnip 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just for full transparency, Mr chicken_and_broccoli messaged me to say "I'll cave your face in you c**t"
Definite teachable moment here - if you've listened to this guy's advice, spot where he is coming from. He has a lot of anger and negativity inside him.
Women can smell that. They've evolved a million years of senses to spot that in a man and stay away from it.
Sure, women want a strong man to stand up for them, but this guy isn't strong, he's the kind who will turn on a woman in an instant for the smallest thing.
chicken_andbroccoli, I hope you make this a turning point. Accept yourself and acknowledge that you need to face the sadness and upset within you, rather than acting it out. Maybe see a therapist.
[–]mattrixd 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh it means last minute resistance by her? You putting words in his mouth? It could mean simply overcoming her objections to gain consent
[–]Anon_00643 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm at the point where I feel comfortable cold approaching but I just can't get over how weird it feels approaching random women. Like I take public transportation and I see lots of cute girls on the train bus etc. And what I'm worried about is the girl freaking out and thinking im a creep or it just not going anywhere because she thinks I'm weird for approaching in public.
I live in a very left wing city and theres police sponsored ads on all the trains saying to report sexual assault etc. To give you just one example one time I took a late train home and there was a 14 y/o girl crying her eyes out and cutting her self dripping blood everywhere. Nobody on the train gave a single fuck but as I was talking to her and giving her some bandaids some woman walks over and asked her "Are you ok with him talking to you?" As if me talking to her was a problem not her cutting herself. Thats the mindset here.
[–]NiceWetTissue 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only in murrica lmao.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
BRUTAL! Name and shame the city, please.
[–]HandsomeHerb 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
" I don’t have to do anything right or wrong, I just have to find the right person."
DING DING DING
[–]TheSunshineMan 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Good on you for taking action and making it happen.
But don't make the mistake of thinking that all of everything doesn't matter, because everything matters.
You found a YES girl, and a lot of that stuff didn't matter.
Good for you, you got her because you went out their and made it happen, now get out there and do it again and make it more of a habit and your daily life.
But YES girls are the fewest girls there are..
The more skills you learn, the better you get, the better your 'offer' is, the more girls you'll get.
This is where you turn a lot of the MAYBE girls into YESES.
By running proper good Game.
[–]Keezymac34 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I agree i got lucky during my first 2 weeks of cold approaching and got 2 yes girls and went on dates. I thought it would always be that easy now im in week 4 and 30 plus approaches later and its been alot harder finding as many girls who are as compliant.
[–]TheSunshineMan 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Work on improving your daygame skills, but what you're saying matters a whole lot too.
[–]shaggy2gay 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Glad the approach worked out. I'd advise against dismissing decades' worth of PUA wisdom on the strength of one success though.
[–]Electric_kundalini 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You do realise the majority of PUA stuff is just fluff, right? The only good information is about inner-game, everything else follows from there.
[–]shaggy2gay 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Naw.
[–]RickyRiccardos 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What did you do on the first date? Drinks?
The background game is a good idea, was it on your phones?
[–]AvocadoCatnip 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The most natural thing in the world.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good job pal. I've noticed this also if you make them laugh you hook them. Talk to them like a person instead of the opposite sex your interested in. it works out well ! I mean if you can't talk to her and make her and your self smile there's really no point to going anywhere except for the nooky.
You can look for the most beautiful woman or you can look for the woman you can actually enjoy time with. Looks fade, and the character of the female last forever. You can have a gorgeous female you can't relate and have sex with... Cancel that tf am I talking about just go for the nookie lol man whatever you get my point. It's the man insticts never say no to nookie.
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