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[–]norwegiandoggo 153 points154 points155 points 4 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link
You're going backwards in the dating process. She invited you on a date. Let's, as an example, say that asking someone on a date is step 20. Then you ask her how she's doing, which we could call step 1. Instead of going all the way back to step 1, you should have moved to step 21, which would be discussing logistics for the date. Strike while the iron is hot. Don't wait and ask how she's doing. You're way past that stuff now
[–]i_69_your_mom 62 points63 points64 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
But if she was really interested in him, she wouldn’t leave him on read. I mean, if she really wants to date him, she would respond no matter what he texted her
[–]Delicious_Ad_1853 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably true. Or maybe she was just really busy with church and family stuff. Who knows. Either way, the correct move is to escalate and hope for the best.
[–]lunaokazul 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The fact that she took her time before asking for his number shows that she’s interested but doesn’t want to show it completely. Could be she also wasn’t sure if she was really interested or not but decided to ask for his info just so she doesn’t miss her shot. She basically needs to play the game of mouse and cat to stay interested. Childish, true, but necessary to her and many more people. She asked for op’s instagram, in my opinion she should’ve been the first to text. It’s just like taking a number, the person who has it is obv the first to text.
OP it’s not too late, if you text her something sarcastic or something that’s similar to how you acted at the party, it might help. You could write her something like “if you take this long to ask me out, I wonder how long it’d take you to decide on a place for our first date”.. or you could just take matters to your own hands and tell her when to be ready for your date. You taking control could actually intrigue her and agree without even questioning you.
[–]sisunorn 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I disagree. They all look prettier at closing time. And that time has passed.
[–]CicadaProfessional76 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You’re correct. She’s not interested. If she was she’s have responded no matter whether step 1 or Step 21
[–]truthbomb999 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She just wants to be taken out on a date but she isn't into this guy
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[–]Delicious_Ad_1853 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not a big deal. "How are you" is a perfectly normal start to a conversation at any stage of the dating process. Just ignore the fact that she ignored it and jump back to the part about setting up the date.
[–]paddywacknack 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the right answer.
Escalation.
[–]cormacru999 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is the silliest thing I've read in a long time. Do you honestly believe that all human relationships are linear & you have to follow a system to make them work?
[–]norwegiandoggo 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn't claim this. So I'm not sure what you're talking about.
[–]cormacru999 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Remember guys, after you've begun dating, you can never ask a woman how she's doing again. lol
[–]norwegiandoggo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's not what I was claiming
[–]jordan20x1 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Bro like why this shit gotta be so difficult.
[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women.
[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You failed to take initiative. Girls are boring. You have to plan and navigate everything.
[–]HughBeaumont500 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And pick up subtle hints and shit. Practically try to read their damn fucked up minds
Sorry...lashing out. Had a rough Saturday night
[–]AProgrammer067 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hope you're feeling better mate
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is stupid but true. The girl initiated the idea of a date, asking for OPs insta and mentioning drinks. Imo it’s up to her to organize a day and time and place since it was her idea.
[–]TheSunshineMan 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have to plan and navigate everything.
Don't forget to not overwhelm them.
You know, sending two questions in one text..
Don't think any are capable of answering more than one thing at a time.
[–]FarWeird6094 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're thinking about it too much. In fact, you could have let her reach out to you. Since you initiated, all you had to say was "It was nice meeting you last night, lets grab drinks this weekend" and waited for a response. I still recommend following up and taking lead and picking a bar to go to. However, you overreacting over being left on read is more concerning. You should be so busy and focused working on your own life and hobbies that things like this don't phase you.
[–]Imwaymoreflythanyou 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women tend to be into you drunk then sober up and feel the exact opposite, don’t take it to heart. Also she could just be busy tbh.
[–]LakersAreTerrible25 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She grabbed your insta is already a receipe for disaster
[–]cho_sungheun 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
imma need an explanation brother
[–]outandaboutbc 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
If you are going to give out your insta, you better have an interesting feed and not be some lame ass with bathroom selfies.
[–]JayTP218 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This happened to me a bunch of times. What’s happening she’s testing for validation. Once she got the validation and attention from you, she loses interest. She’ll drop bait or keep leading you on if she feels you’re loosing interest. This type of girls feeds off on ml]ale attention. Don’t worry, happened to me like 4 times from dates on tinder, I was like wtf am I doing wrong? Messed with my mind too. People like to play games. Just keep talking to girls, and asking girls out. I was so confused too. Then boom, I met my gf. When they like you, they like you. And she was honestly hotter than the previous 4 girls who were playing games. My gf was just straight up, I asked her out, she said yes. Focus on yes girls, forget wishy washy maybe girls. Time wasters
[–]ManginaSniper 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Forget she exists, and continue doing you. She'll eventually booty call, not giving her free attention is like kryptonite to women. Do it, you'll see.
[–]Algo2Pete 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This shit is so true. I stopped paying attention to a chick and it scrambled her freaking signal like a dolphin ran into a sonar.
[–]what-diddy-what-what 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Give her another day then message her: "Don't tell me you're playing hard to get already, we haven't even had our first drink! ;) "
If she doesn't respond move on.
[–]blueunochalice 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Asking her how she's doing is the most mundane thing to ask to a girl. Literally anything else even some absurd question would do better
[–]cozyidealist181 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Express to her whatever actually excites you at whatever part of your relationship to her you are at. You don't need to figure out what she is thinking. That's not your part of the relationship (and I use that word very generally). The only business you have when it comes to her choices is to accept and respect them, see them in a positive light, and not insist she acts a certain way.
For example, you might wonder about things like "when do I ask for her number?" Simple... *when do you actually have a desire/need to have her number?* Usually at the end of an interaction when you need her number to be in contact with her because you feel you would like to keep in touch, or maybe in the conversation something comes up where you know you'll want to let her know something.
But really I see nothing at all wrong with opening with "how are you doing?" And then after a little exchange you could follow up on the drinks thing. You really didn't do anything wrong. The only way you might make a mess of things here is by judging yourself based on what you did or what you think she was supposed to do.
Just get super clear in your actions with expressing you what excites you to girls without taking any of what any of them do as meaning something bad about you. When it doesn't bother you anymore that a girl doesn't respond (because you know it has nothing to do with you, and you know you have plenty of access to what you're looking for) then things will be working out smoothly with the right girls for you. That's when you'll really be being yourself, communicating clearly, without neediness and insecurity, with natural confidence that'll make whatever you do or say work. It's really not about the details... it's about how you feel and that comes across a certain way whether you say "hey, what's up" or "wanna get those drinks?"
[–]Algo2Pete 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Personally,, I'd move on, don't waste another minute on her. Most women are fucking bipolar. Invest the times on yourself instead.
[–]mishaxz 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sorry for the stupid question but what does "left you on read" mean?
[–]Safo_ 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Opened the message and didn't respond
[–]sisunorn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thx
[–]TheSunshineMan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
100% normal..
Men ghost, women ghost...
If she comes back around, cool, if she's cool.
It doesn't really matter as you're talking to 20 new girls a week.
[–]ProdigalSon231 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The way girls act at parties and after are two different things. I’d say don’t worry about. I’ve had girls make out w me at parties and then act like they don’t want to talk on subsequent dates. Once some of them drink a little bit they become completely different people.
Advice for you: You’re feeling a girl. At the very least ask for her insta. Not the other way around. I’d say try and get concrete plans in as soon as possible, in person. Like for over the weekend going to get coffee or something.
[–]Dwaynedibley24601 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's an (I assume) young pretty girl, she has a lot of options. Don't hate the player, hate the game... If she was interested she would be blowing your phone up. It's just fun to see how many numbers she can get. Its shallow but that's what hot girls do.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She was chasing you and you should have played it like that. Instead, you messaged her asking her what's up. That's weak even if you were the one initating the whole thing. Why can't men just be straight forward and specific and say "I want to take you out on a date this Wednesday or Thursday. Let me know what works for you and I will pick you up at 8pm".
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For real. I get not responding for a day or two but I will simply not believe someone won’t check their phone for a week straight unless on vacation or have no service.
[–]el_colimofla 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had this girl dm unread for about 2 months bc I never was in the mood to actually responding, I was quite interested in the conversation but I had other stuff to do, other people to text more urgently, etc. Even now the girl I'm texting I leave it unread for hours bc I just don't want to answer at that exact moment. People do live on their phones and that's not ok
[–]Only_illegalLPT -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
mental issue has entered the chat
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[–]Only_illegalLPT 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Actually this is an ADHD thing so I'm gonna take some meth and reply to my friends.
[–]bandsupjay 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Who knows. She did say for getting drinks “sometime”, so maybe shes tryna keep you as an option till its time. But im not her usable tampon, neither are u so id get rid of that bitch in a heartbeat. Just play it smooth, leave her on read back and see if she chases a little when she hits you back. Or you can tease her about it, really up to you bro. Don’t let her come back open arms though after leaving you on read, thats disrespectful. Isn’t shit to play games with a girl if you have options though. She could also be busy but if it’s for awhile you know whats up
[–]Ecstatic-Flounder-48 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Could've been a power trip. She talked to you, maybe you gave the impression that you weren't into her, so she bit and tried to get you interested.
Now you messaged first so she's all like "oh wow, he's into me after all. (here comes the ego boost),"
and then she ghosts, because conquest achieved.
Before you guys say I might be wrong, realize so many women are on tinder, etc just to boost their egos whenever they feel ugly by looking at who they matched with...
[–]Ok_Pension_2064 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You should’ve let her message you and also stop caring
[–]MephistosFallen 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Refresh her memory, she may not remember as much from the night before as you do.
[–]Altruistic-Ad-1117 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even though you messaged her asking how she was doing which is a good starter, you could have messaged her saying “ So, about this date. When would you like to catch up for drinks ?” Something along those lines
[–]LWLD 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same shit happened to me
[–]IamtheDanr 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's likely busy
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Instagram? I guess she sees you as a fan
I cannot stand online activity anymore when it comes to dating. I’m going to start only texting for logistics I swear.
[–]cormacru999 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One, I'd need to know how long its been since you sent that message & she hasn't replied because there can be dozens of reasons she hasn't replied that don't involve her deciding to never speak to you again. Second, even if she had fun, she's not obligated to follow through & if she doesn't, you just move on. She may have had a few drinks, enjoyed the evening but rethought things, she may be shy when not drinking, she may have heard something negative about you, I mean there's no system to women, you can't look at this experience & say oh yeah, here's what definitely happened.
Humans are complicated & messy. You win some, you lose some but the best thing you can do is let it go if she never replies. Don't keep trying, don't harass her if you see her at another party. But also, Instagram is not really what I would be using for a date.
[–]prominentoverthinker 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Now say something like “I have some free time on Friday night and I want to get drinks and get to know you”.
[–]MetaphysicPhilosophy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t take it personally. There is no objective explanation. She must have just been confused in what she wanted. I say it is just best to move on. Don’t waste your energy on women that can’t make up their mind.
[–]Stujitsu2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If I were you I would wait 3-5 days and shoot another shot by inviting her to do something specific. Sometimes a woman loosing interest has nothing to do with you. She may be involved with someone.
In any case use the phone to make plans, not be her pen pal
[–]JoeTheExotic 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wait a few days before you ask something like this 😂. I’ve been left on ‘read’ for a day or two before I got a response. Relax
[–]serdarsam 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You should've just waited for her to get back. Especially you shouldn't have written to her the next day. You showed her your cards that you are needy and she didn't like them.
[–]Kartikey15 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's confused i guess. She is not sure that she is interested in you or not. Maybe she recently broke up with someone and was trying to move on. But later she changed her mind. I say to hell with she's interested or not, just go and ask her what happened, just for the sake of knowing that it was something you did or something from her side!
[–]UniqueUserName2017 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, with girls you should always expect a no, ALWAYS. Girls have lots and lots of options, and girls can go through many moods in one day (sorry) Sometimes you may send a good message in a wrong time (for them) that blows your chance, its not your fault. She could be being pulled back by an ex, had better options (for her) or any other random thing that may have changed her mind.
Abundace is key
She was drunk yeah?
Don’t even give it a second thought. Move on. If women want to spend time with you they will make an effort. Next!!!
[–]what_to_do_next 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She was drunk.
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