~ archived since 2018 ~
Popular
Other
[deleted]
[–]JohnZoffman 58 points59 points60 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If a girl says you are to ugly for me, then fuck her.
Thats not a test, thats her being a bitch
[–]Agreable_Actuator84 25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
How a about Fractionation:push pull - Ie - ‘I find your lack of social grace so endearing.’
The idea is to show 1) her thoughts don’t really impact your mood. Your reality and mood are far too strong for any thing she can say or think to change 2) quick wit but in a way that rid both positive abs negative at the same time. If all positive you some across as weak simp willing to take a beating for female attention. All negative then you are just but hurt and have demonstrated her thoughts and word control your inner reality. Something to experiment with.
[–]RedAsh521 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just to confirm fractionation and push pull are the same?
[–]eyesopen1111 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Upvote for having actually READ and UNDERSTOOD some Game theory. Most people here probably have not heard of or read about fractionation in a game context.
[–]CDEDC 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Any good reference?
[–]timei5ticking 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is good and different
[–]eyesopen1111 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Everything she says IS a test (or should be treated as one), and you fail by getting offended by whatever the girl says. If you pass her test--and basic Game knowledge will teach you how--you will actually make the girl highly attracted to you. (basic Game)
Next thing you know, you’ll intentionally force girls to test you by playing extra cocky so she tries to cut you down, and then you’ll turn her on by passing her tests (intermediate Game). It’s like outwitting a girl at this core level. It is called "banter" in some Game schools. It makes pussies wet and causes her to respect you for keeping your cool and outsmarting her (demonstrating intelligence, social poise, sense of humor, status, preselection, etc.)
Winning the banter/testing/frame contest and then adding in a back-turn/pull back will get the girl chasing you. (advanced Game) So in a matter of minutes you can go from her testing you to her chasing you.
Guys without Game can’t do this, so they give up way too early, write on this forum how they never get laid, and imagine that they should be lifting weights or working on their inner Game to improve results. Meanwhile, PUAs are actually looking for girls like this as easy marks and fucking chicks left and right.
This is why the top 10% of guys are getting WAY more action.
[–]earsurgery9 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
sometimes it's a 'test' and sometimes it's just a girl who isn't attracted to you and thus she doesn't want to talk to you or whatever. Trying to 'game' an unattracted girl is a waste of time. You can't trick her into finding you hot lol. Same as a massively fat ugly girl trying to do the same with you. Ain't gonna work lol
[–]oscarony 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Agreed. When a woman says sumn like this it’s usually just a test of your dominance
[–]eyesopen1111 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. And when you respond to her shit test perfectly, her bitch shield will break and she’ll smile/laugh at herself, treating you with respect and sexual interest. It’s pretty awesome.
[–]timei5ticking 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Where do you get tips/learn about intermediate/advanced game?
[–]eyesopen1111 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is a lot of study material available: tons of books on pickup, Youtube videos that PUAs put out, at-home programs, seminars, etc. There are dating coaches, wingmen, girls who will help you.
I love Game, so I basically read and practiced everything from about every PUA until it all made sense. I listen to everybody--it’s the best way. You will soon know what's effective, so just be comprehensive and practice what you learn to see what's what.
[–]timei5ticking 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. I also need to find a balance between being cocky and making people feel that I don't value them
[–]kalz44 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m not dealing with that kind of behavior. There are plenty girls who won’t do that.
[–]the_f3l1x 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude... Just say yeah and move on. If she's interested, she'll come back with proper manners
[–]MakeSail 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shit tests are banter and insults are disrespect.
I will comment on shit tests, or just tests of character (fortitude, intelligence, etc.).
So what do I say when she says X?
Scripting (preparing before hand) can be valuable if you are not skilled at conversation. However, scripting is not a long term strategy.
Why?
What you do in conversation with an interested woman depends on who she is (personality, needs) and what you want (sex, relationship, friendship, advice, etc.).
There is a reason she is talking to you, there is a reason why she is testing you. It is based on her needs and how you may satisfy them.
The key concept in banter with a woman is to understand you can guide the conversation where ever you want it to go with no ill effects. You are under no obligation to answer questions or respond to statements. Ignore them in part or in whole. Respond if it is an advantage.
So what do I do?
Take control and guide the conversation based on who she is and what she wants (needs). The exchange is dynamic and communication is mostly nonverbal (an unfortunate fact).
Many men have problems in communicating nonverbally (empathetic listening, projecting traits like confidence). But this comes with practice and emotional maturity. So get comfortable in basic conversation technique (words) first.
Example: Q: "Aren't you older than me?"
A: Redirect. "You seem like a very passionate person to me, what do you do for fun?"
The redirection should be based on how the relationship should progress based on what you know about her at that moment. But, as you talk ,you will learn more about her and use this to adjust accordingly. If you have strong empathy skills, you will know a great deal about what she wants without using words.
If she is really connecting, you can redirect to take her on an emotional ride. Guide the conversation where you want it to go. Women what excitement, fun and being close to a man who can satisfy her needs. Stand and deliver.
[–]oscarony 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she says that then you have to disrespect her back, playfully
Woman do that as a test of your dominance
For ex: If she says ‘I’m too hot for you’ I’d literally laugh at her and say ‘No you ain’t... which one of these lames been gassing you up?’
[–]aiquoc 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Yep it's true. Wanna have sex?"
[–]iiK4oS1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
10/10 works every time
[–]teehitis 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Laugh, agree with them or just completly ignore them.
[–]timei5ticking -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Laugh and agree with them doesn't quite go well. It's standard for everyone to do. Doesn't have an impact
[–]teehitis 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It works
[–]timei5ticking 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I told "we are all ugly compared to someone, so are you". This was bad?
[–]MistahUndaCova001 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would've phrased it as "We're all attractive to someone."
[–]ProCatMasseuse 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1)"Oh really? Who told you that?"
2) I mean this one is really not even a test and can actually Segway into a fun conversation. "Yeah, probably old enough to be your daddy"
3) Move on. Why would you want to talk to someone who's first reaction is to call you ugly? Maybe when you're a pimp you can turn that around and play with it but right now you're still learning what women like, respond to, and want. Dont put up with that. Have standards for yourself. Otherwise you'll be the doormat for the dude she ends up fucking.
If you're focusing on having fun with the conversation than shit tests will be passed naturally Because the actual tests are boring topics.
[–]kettlebell_workout 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
She: "I am too hot for you"
You: "You are right. Let me call an ambulance". - say jokingly that you are worried that she has a huge temperature. You can even do kino, by putting a hand on her forehead.
She: "Aren't you older than me"
You: "Why do you ask? Are you interested in me?" - say like you honestly think that she is interested
She: "You are too ugly for me"
You: "I am flattered. But I am not interested in you THAT way" - say like you sincerely are confused, and when you say the word "THAT" make a little bit a disgust facial expression. She says this not because she is mean person, but because of her "bitch shield", you are just another guy hitting on her in a very bad/obvious way, so you need to disqualify yourself.
[–]mariokart890 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Learn to respect yourself enough to walk away from people like this. Keep ya head up king 👑
[–]weird_watercress1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Just agree with them.
[–]letsgetrandy -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"I am too hot for you"
"Or maybe you're just not used to someone as COOL as me."
"Aren't you older than me?"
"Yes, but I promise not to hold it against you."
"You are too ugly for me."
"Hold on a second, I need to respond to this message from work." Pause for a beat and play with your phone, ignoring her. "Sorry, what were you saying now?"
[–]rjshore -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You'd get laughed out of the bar for saying the first thing
[–]earsurgery9 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
if she thinks you're ugly, that's not a 'test' - it's a rejection.
Move on and find the girls who are attracted to you. And then game THEM girls
I said "Already rating a face? You aren't going to sit on that, that easy"
[–]fictitious-name 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ouch I have never been told “im too hot for you” and I am not a good looking guy
Plenty of mean ones out there....
[–]Radicalmattitude1 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t play into her frame, you’re the prize, she has to impress you. Your frame should be something like “aww you’re actually trying to make fun of me, that’s cute.”
If a girl called me ugly out at the bar I would probably start joking around and flirting with her friends and make her feel so left out that she try’s to get my attention back. Then when she tries to get back in on the conversation, ignore her at first, then tease her about being a trouble maker, and then finally allow her to win your approval back so she can be part of the fun vibes again.
When you give her a hoop to jump through, she will become more invested in the interaction and it will setup the relationship dynamic properly - where you are slightly less invested than she is and you decide what kind of behaviour you will tolerate from her.
[–]RedEyeBlackEye1 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1) ignore, keep going like nothing was said.
2) agree and amplify, make that shit seem trivial and silly aka unimportant to you. It's all in good fun anyways. You have Amused Mastery. She is nothing more than some random bitch you wanna have "fun" with.
3) pressure flip, put that bitch on the spot, watch her sweat...then crack
Or she'll reveal her hand.
[–]Aloredia 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Do NOT apply push pull. It may work in the short term and get her attention, but do you really want someone who makes everything harder for everyone around her, except herself? If she's not testing, they're rude. If they are testing, it's inconsiderate and selfish. When you get shit tested, just leave.
The best response for these kind of tests is "You're not hot enough to be this rude. I'd rather spend my time on someone nice. Goodbye."
[–]Marilla1957 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If a person tells you they're to hot for you, respond by saying, "No, you're cold as ice inside!" then turn, and walk away. Always be prepared for that negative response, and reflect it back onto the person then walk away. Often, the person will come after you, and strike up a conversation!
© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.created by /u/dream-hunter
[–]JohnZoffman 58 points59 points60 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Agreable_Actuator84 25 points26 points27 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]RedAsh521 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]eyesopen1111 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]CDEDC 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]timei5ticking 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]eyesopen1111 10 points11 points12 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]earsurgery9 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]oscarony 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]eyesopen1111 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]timei5ticking 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]eyesopen1111 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]timei5ticking 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]kalz44 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]the_f3l1x 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]MakeSail 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]oscarony 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]aiquoc 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]iiK4oS1 point [recovered] | Copy Link
[–]teehitis 4 points5 points6 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]timei5ticking -2 points-1 points0 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]teehitis 3 points4 points5 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]timei5ticking 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]MistahUndaCova001 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ProCatMasseuse 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]kettlebell_workout 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]mariokart890 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]weird_watercress1 point [recovered] | Copy Link
[–]letsgetrandy -2 points-1 points0 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]rjshore -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]earsurgery9 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]timei5ticking 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]fictitious-name 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]timei5ticking 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Radicalmattitude1 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]RedEyeBlackEye1 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Aloredia 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Marilla1957 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link