Let's create a definitive IOI list.

Waterboy13 · 2012-03-28T10:10:15+00:00

Some IOIs

•she is fully facing you and/or her body blocks out her friends from the conversation

•if her facial expressions (such as happy, sad, surprised) are exaggerated

•if she takes multiple glances at you at times she thinks you wont be looking

•if she doesn't ask for you to loosen the rope that keeps her bound to your bed

Tradman · 2012-03-28T15:43:05+00:00

While this post is good in terms of encouraging discussion, in terms of useful pickup advice, having a "definitive ioi list" is a bad idea.

One: There is no such thing as a defintive IOI list -- there are a few comon ones like hair, eye contact(doggy dinner bowl eyes for instance), but there are many more which are situation-dependent or even personal. even the common ones can be affected by things like temperature or nervous tics.

Two Hunting for IOIs and reacting based off them is a really really bad way to do pickup- you're going to be totally reactionary and when the girl takes the iois away -- and if she's a hot babe, at some point she will - you're gonna be totally out of state.

Look - learn a few basic IOIs - playing with hair, touching you, proximity. and thats really all u need.

Instead of focussing on IOIs- focus on Compliance, and once you have compliance, focus on Qualifiers. Compliance and qualification are much more powerful concepts than IOIs, and while IOI's may vary, compliance and qualification is much more consistent.

obviously_subtle · 2012-03-28T10:13:47+00:00

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Marsupian · 2012-03-28T12:28:59+00:00

You look her in the eye when you roofie her drink and she keeps eye contact while downing it.

In all seriousness I don't think you can compile a "definitive" IOI list. There are endless amounts of IOI's and whether something is an IOI or not is also based on context.

It's good to know the sort of behavior a girl can display when she is attracted to you but you don't need to remember IOI's when you are interacting. If you are actively thinking about IOI's during an interaction you are doing it wrong and it will likely only mess with your head.

Seife · 2012-03-28T12:56:19+00:00

What's IOI, NPU, SPU ? I'm not an english native speaker, so this may seem a bit more obvious to you, than it does to me.

BLINDAHOE · 2012-03-28T16:15:11+00:00

Can't forget this IOI:

Grabs your dick and tells you to fuck her

jarde · 2012-03-28T14:51:28+00:00

She looks back and smiles during doggy-style

blahm3 · 2012-03-28T13:19:46+00:00

She hasn't walked away is the only IOI you need.

Lots of girls will not give any of these IOIs but that doesn't mean they are not interested.

Assume attraction. Assume interest. Escalate until she walks away.

TofuTofu · 2012-03-28T20:44:15+00:00

Forget IOIs. They no longer exist. Assume attraction and go.

oh84s · 2012-03-28T12:35:23+00:00

I think that although these lists are very useful, the 'assume attraction' thing is quite accurate.

You don't need lists, if she laughs and smiles at you and seems interested in talking to you chances are she is interested. If she avoids you and ignores you and seems bored chances are she isn't. People display their feelings on their face and it really is that obvious.

The_Merkon · 2012-03-28T13:52:54+00:00

Last weekend I had what I usually take as an IOI backfire on me.

I was grinding on a girl from behind, and she kept playing with her hair on the side that my head was on. As in she was brushing her hair away, and exposing her neck. So when I see this I will start kissing her neck, and it generally is receptive. Now this one time that I did it, the girl pretty much straight up ran away.

Ragas · 2012-03-28T18:32:23+00:00

YOu don't need IOIs. As long as your not getting any IODs you're fine.

Also there are sooo many infinitely small IOIs that it is not even possible to clearly define them with human language.

rmbarnes · 2012-03-28T08:42:45+00:00

This applies to cold approach rather than social circle:

Her engaging you fully in conversation / gives you her full attention
She goes into interview mode with you
She touches you
Pushing her tits against you
Compliments you
When you move closer into her personal space she doesn't move back to get away
If you grab her hand she doesn't resist

2012-03-28T14:27:59+00:00

Grooming behaviours; hair behind the ear, cleaning lint off her dress etc.

touching parts of her body she is proud of or wants to draw attention to: breasts, thighs, wasit

Eyes dialate when you get closer to her, or are in general over dialated

Woetren · 2012-03-28T14:34:36+00:00

When you look at her she also plays with her hair, you know what i mean (nervous way)

2012-03-28T17:39:45+00:00

Stop looking for someone to hold your hand through the process and start learning how to connect with girls as human beings. Picking up IOIs should be something you do subconsciously. You don't need a list.

IV-65536 · 2012-03-28T17:24:03+00:00

•keeps conversation alive

ErX29 · 2012-03-28T14:58:39+00:00

There was already a huge list. About this same topic.

crazy_truth · 2012-03-29T18:22:12+00:00

No. This is a stupid idea. You are doing it wrong. Instead, assume attraction until explicitly told otherwise.

Title	Let's create a definitive IOI list.
Author	obviously_subtle
Upvotes	74
Comments	49
Date	March 28, 2012 8:34 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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