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[–]TheSicilianDude 75 points76 points77 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I’m trying to do a porn free 2019 (so far so good). I have read up on the effects of porn on the brain and, while I don’t think it’s “settled” yet, it doesn’t look good.
Since giving it up, I’ve noticed I find girls way sexier and I’m not comparing them to porn stars anymore. It also helps seeing them more as actual humans and not sex objects.
I also HATE the post-nut, clearing history feeling. I always think about how I could have spent that time doing something more productive like actually meeting real girls. And the thought of watching videos of other dudes getting laid kills my confidence. I’m capable of meeting someone real and getting laid myself, I don’t need to be doing that shit.
Long story short, I think porn made me weaker.
No judgment of guys who watch it. Just my 2c.
[–]Balkinbalkans 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Are you me? The sense of time wasted was what got me to put it away. I was always left feeling like I could have finished another chapter of the book I'm reading, gone to the gym sooner so that I'm not rushing to complete my last set as the gym is closing, started learning a new song, etc. Literally anything else would have been a better use of that time.
[–]TheSicilianDude 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly. Porn is such a ridiculous waste of time. Minutes turn to hours of surfing pornhub for more videos.
You could be reading a good book, going to the gym, watch a good movie or show, meeting girls, getting stuff done, or sleeping. All of these things can be improving or enriching. Porn is neither.
[–]nyctrashman69 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hours? I'm in and out in a couple of minutes...
[–]zwishstickz 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah don’t get me wrong, I think jerking off helps my game, but when coupled with porn it kills me.
And the clean up thing, dude with a flashlight it’s 10x worse hahahaha
[–]TheSicilianDude 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
When you say it helps your game what do you mean?
Because I do not recommend jerking it before going out to meet girls. That’s like eating a burger before going to find food.
[–]zwishstickz 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel calmer and more relatable. I tend to get more smiles and just better interactions.
[–]ScottsdalePD 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It depends from guy to guy, but for some guys it helps them not see the chick purely from a sexual standpoint.
I compare it to eating a cliff bar before going to the grocery store. It ain't gonna fully satisfy you, but it will help to prevent you from making a bad impulse decision.
[–]WhiteKoala__ 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Clearing history feeling” haha same brother.
[–]EnvironmentalTwister 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This light sound weird but for some reason I dream and go back to encounters I’ve had with women over past videos
[–]WhiteningMcClean 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Watching porn has two main effects: one good and one bad. Which one ends up overriding the other depends on the individual and their situation.
Porn doesn't necessarily negatively affect your ABILITY to get girls. It does, however, affect your MOTIVATION. Getting laid takes work. Choking the chicken provides you with an easy, failure-proof way to relieve sexual urges when they come about. It's not as satisfying, but it's quick, free, easy, and requires little skill.
However, there is a such thing as TOO much motivation. Few things turn a woman off like desperation, which is a state you may find yourself in if you have no other outlet for your horn-doggery. The more it seems like you're actively trying to get laid, the less likely it is to happen. It's an unfortunate paradox, and why porn can be helpful to some.
So basically, it comes down to which is the bigger issue: not sacking up and approaching women, or coming across as too desperate and reactive when you do.
[–]ScottsdalePD 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Would it not be better then to masturbate without porn? This would curb some of the desperation without also having porn's negative effects.
[–]zwishstickz 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I feel like for me porn puts women on a pedestal and it comes with shame. I don’t feel confident and happy with porn whereas with women I feel good about it.
[–]WhiteningMcClean 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's an interesting take. Goes to show how everyone reacts differently to it.
I would guess you're a pretty social person, and that you either lost your virginity at a younger age or didn't start regularly watching porn until later than most.
Most guys I talk to (myself included) don't feel strong connections between the content of sex and porn. Porn is a means to an end and is very separate in their minds from the pursuit of sex. One is solitary and virtual, the other is social and very real.
[–]zwishstickz 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good guess, I’m pretty social and lost my virginity before I turned 15.
I just thought getting girls was super easy until I started watching porn often.
It does seem to not effect people at all though.
[–]WhiteningMcClean 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The fact that you connect sex and porn so closely is what tipped me off.
I started watching porn long before I became sexually active. For guys like me, there's a larger mental disconnect between the two.
It definitely does affect people to varying degrees, and in varying ways. I can't say "porn is good" or "porn is bad," because neither of those statements are accurate for everyone.
[–][deleted] 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
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Same bro! It’s tough, I don’t seem to have enough of an inner want to stop
[–]WhiteKoala__ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hate weed and stopped watching porn. I’m still single and haven’t approached more than 3 girls in my life :/
[–]JustHereForTheLights1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It's a big ocean mate, and you won't meet any other fish in a bag stuck on a life boat.
[–]BigDizzle9991 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I am currently fighting the same battles you are my brotha. Those two vices are at the core of the anxiety and depression that I’ve been experiencing the past year & a half. Getting to the point where emotion outweighs logic and reasoning in my decision making has made it hell when trying to abstain
[–]joblagz2 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
you should treat weed like liquor man. just consume at the end of the day to relax and melt all the stress away for a good sleep.
[–]Albatrots71 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you will be dependent on that for a good sleep and using it to cope with your stress... Does not sound smart to me. Moderation is key, and drinking liquor and smoking weed every day does not seem moderate to me. But whatever floats your boat I guess.
[–]PianoOwl 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Curious to hear people’s answers too.
[–]zwishstickz 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Updoot it to help get people’s attention.
[–]stronkpk 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Actually if I dont wank enough I tend to fuck up fast and bad with girls since in my mind there's only "I want to fuck this girl so bad"
Lmao
[–]doinkesque 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For me most of the sex that I’ve had (I’ve only had short-term flings and one-night stands) wasn’t that great and it took me forever to realize that porn and over-masturbation was probably the issue. It kills sensitivity and more so motivation to even meet women. I go out rarely but when I do I see girls checking me out and I don’t feel like even interacting with them due to this addiction that I can’t shake.
I can’t seem to shake it either. When I do for a while tho I find average girls more attractive and if I catch a girl checking me out I usually get pretty excited when off the porn, especially if they’re cute.
[–]AndroidProject 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think it depends on the person. I am watching porn almost every day and it did not affect my game or anything related to that in any way. I am always horny and find a lot of girls sexy. I read about the effects it has on your brain but for me at least, it does not matter at all.
Interesting. It could be a perspective thing, but I swear it makes me tired and anxious lol
[–]FBS998 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow... I actually havent watched porn in a while... I read it now and imatine hahaha and lemme tell you it feels much better
[–]IntoxicatedOrange 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't think so. I quit watching porn cold turkey at the beginning of 2019 and it hasn't made any discernible difference yet. I'm going to keep avoiding it though because I think it's just a sad existence to use it.
No negative effects on you though?
[–]IntoxicatedOrange 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope, I feel exactly the same and act exactly the same around girls, lol.
[–]Its_A_Nice_Day 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
whenever I cut out porn, I pull way more girls and connect with people way more.
In fact, when I'm watching porn all the time, I have low success and almost zero initiative.
so personally I hardly watch it anymore, as it weakens my social drive, drive to approach/call girls, likeliness to follow up etc.
Make much better eye contact, better body language, more intimate personal connection without it. Shit, many times when I'm porn bingeing I just turn into a bitch ass hermit like I'm a scared middle schooler again.
Fuck porn.
Thanks for the comment.
I feel this way too.
[–]run_fast-eat_ass 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Personally, I started to limit my porn use as much as I could because it was low-key causing me some erectile dysfunction. Plus, if I don't wank or wank less, I tend to be more driven during sex or sexual situations. If I were you, limit your use to as little as you can; it will probably make it easier to talk to girls because the sexual tension within you might make you more confident.
[–]zwishstickz 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the insight.
[–]Dilpil01 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't think it's inherently bad in small doses during dry spells. However it can effectively sedate you libido and it reduces your hunger to go get a girl. In this way it is bad, because you need that hunger as motivation to make things happen.
[–]gtrman571 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It boggles my mind that this is still a debate - Literally nothing good will come from indulging in it...
[–]f9RfsR 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
as soon as i stop watching porn/masturbate i'm hungry. less in a " i am so desperate" but more in a " i got to talk to this girl". and this hunger makes me in a non-creepy way to just get what i want.
it helps being more "alpha"
[–]urmyheartBeatStopR 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you think watching porn effects your ability to get girls?
No. I've seen my friend that watch TONS of fucking porn and he can get girls and dates. Dude can spot porn star and sprout out porn names like nobody business.
I have a buddy who NEVER watched porn until college and rarely at all and he got shit lucks with girls. They both do pua. One of them RSD and the other some old ass company that went bankrupt.
Maybe it's just two data points but there were porn way back then just with different medium/form. Humanity haven't die off yet.
I don't claim to be a doctor or expert. But I think it's just one of those informational age bullshit cult thinking. Like #cleaneat where the chick almost killed herself and had to switch from veganism to eating fish. Or antivaxxer.
[–]zincSF 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No.
It may however dramatically affect your level of desire to "get girls", or more pragmatically cause you to put in far less or no effort. A dog that's just eaten a big meal (even if it was low in nutrition!) don't hunt.
Your "ability to get girls" is your skill and your value. Your desire to get girls is orthogonal to your skill and value. Being sexually satisfied almost certainly reduces short term desire. And your actions...well, you may have very high desire, but your inner weasel often still blocks you from executing.
Everyone's different. Try no porn for a week and no popping your nut; did it make you go out and do the gaming work or not? Only you can figure out how it impacts you.
[–]likeAboss008 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Care to explain?
[–]likeAboss008 -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Everybody knows that porn is not art rather dirty propaganda to spread falsehood and belief. 3/4 of world population are hooked on porn.
[–]tizokoko -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tbh when i quit pmo, i felt genuinely attracted to girls in general Putting them on pedestal or not has nothing to do with pmo When you quit pmo , you’ll encounter with some placebos but in both cases its win -win
[–]mseand -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nope, I watch porn and I'm prolly the most advanced in this thread.
Weird flex, but okay
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