'Undercover' on Ashley Madison, interesting tips on how to game women post-30 and why women would cheat.

Xandaline · 2014-06-07T16:14:31+00:00

That was a really good read. It's not exactly about how to pick up women in so much as it is an article about how to keep one.

TLR:DR Once you get the girl, keep up the passion. Neglect and complacency is the fastest route to a cheating wife.

sh0nuff · 2014-06-07T16:02:44+00:00

I like this article and author because he "gets it". The revelation phase was awesome.

ohwell65 · 2014-06-07T22:44:01+00:00

Yeah I guess I like the "what the guys do wrong" part of the article because I can learn from that. I think what's needed is a what the women did wrong part of the article and an inspection into why he became complacent. Is it because he felt like he was unappreciated by that stay at home mom for working twice as hard to make sure that security of the family was not in question? Did she ever in the beginning surprise him with being naked in bed waiting for him but no longer does those things? Does she still give a random blow job to him even though she is ambivalent or doesn't care to but knows how much items to him? Trust me, it's no easy task for us to go out of our way to plan confidently for a "sweep you off your feet evening" when we are tired. Why should you women be able to use this as an excuse for not doing the things that are important to us? Yes-- when we are courting we go to courting lengths but ladies think back on anything you might have done that you don't anymore do. Just some thoughts from a guy that had a failed marriage and has a great lady in my life now. Yes I invest heavily but so does she. I've made it clear that she shares a burden equally in making sure that our relationship doesn't get complacent.

Radioactive24 · 2014-06-07T19:07:26+00:00

This is an insanely interesting article. Granted, you could read this as "how to pick up married women", as OP tried to push, but it's really not so much about that.

It really is an inside look into how relationships work and why cheating is such a grave offense.

If you want to be reminded how to make your relationship actually work, this is a good start. While you could boil it down to the "don't stop being interesting" and "don't get complacent" usual throw outs, he really hits deeper in the revelations towards the end.

Also, fuck yeah to good journalism, actually getting in there and getting your hands dirty, none of this armchair reporting bullshit that passes for journalism nowadays.

CatRatBat · 2014-06-07T20:22:47+00:00

Wait - he had 20 messages the first night?? I'm willing to believe he had a good profile - but seriously that good?

karthmorphon · 2014-06-08T05:17:32+00:00

Did anyone else notice the double standard in the article?

He concludes that women are upset not by the affair itself, but "where his energy has been going". While she was supportive and doing the wife-as-homemaker thing, the husbands energy and attention is spent on another.

Yet, the women were justifying their affairs because the husband was "too busy with work." In other words, he was doing the provider thing trying to bring in more money (the husband form of being supportive, since the wife had decided to be a stay-at-home mom as mentioned in the article).

So if women have affairs, its the mans fault for taking his attention away. If the man has an affair, it's his fault for taking his attention away.

joculator · 2014-06-08T01:04:31+00:00

Schlock. And the guy chatted with 33 women in a couple of days....? Reeks of bullshit.

JG60 · 2014-06-07T19:38:16+00:00

Why do all of these articles end in steps to please women more. Keep alive the romance and attention and she might not cheat on you. How about "women should stop being sluts after marriage." Why is it always the man that must change to suit the woman?

propyl21 · 2014-06-07T23:26:20+00:00

The problem is that even a guy who "gets it" will become complacent. Despite the detailed article that touches on different areas, it's still only a small part of the full picture.

Ever notice how men enjoy tranquility and calm in their lives whereas women long for going through different emotions and states through the course of even one day in their lives?

A man's passions are in his hobbies and growing as a man. A woman's passions are in her partner, and feeling wanted, feeling different emotions. That in itself creates a void.

I think that a woman's passions and capacity for all aspects of life are higher than a man's. Even their pain threshold.

Humans are habitual. We fall into routines. Men can cope with routines especially if it lacks drama, which zaps a man's energy. Unfortunately routines are boring for women. They need excitement and change. As mentioned, throughout the course of a day, a woman may enjoy the contrast between being happy, sad, jubilant, excited etc.

It's that feeling of being alive and in the moment that women are after. If this feeling is lacking and is not being initiated by the man in a woman's life, she may resent being with him.

I probably sound like I'm criticising women or as if I know it all, when in fact I'm simply trying to share what I have experienced. And it's open to criticism, so long as it's constrictive.

Afeni02 · 2014-06-07T19:46:15+00:00

Very interesting read. I noticed that i've fallen victim to not 'trying' as much anymore after making her my gf. In your guys' opinions, what's the best way to get out of this mentality. I mean, it's like "I already have her, I'm already having sex with her so why try?" How do you get out of this?

infernalsatan · 2014-06-07T20:12:55+00:00

You're telling me those profiles are not fake???

BehindEnemyLines · 2014-06-08T01:42:16+00:00

"Life's about Passion" NSFW www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_g0esNGpag&t=27s

jroseland · 2014-06-09T01:00:53+00:00

The last woman I 'helped' cheat had a boyfriend in Canada that she was in a serious relationship with. We met dancing at a party. Our first date she kept mentioning him even showed me texts from him. She also mentioned that she had been married but cheated. I sat there listening to her complain about her boring ex-husband, I strongly considered pointing out the irony of her being on a date with me while in a long distance relationship with another quiet boring man. But instead I was really unreactive and I invited her back to watch 45 minutes of a show at my place. We made out and then resumed conversation like nothing had happened. Back at my place she gave me a ton of LMR but eventually started giving me head and then we fucked.

locotx · 2014-06-07T19:08:36+00:00

BULLSHIT . . no woman would say "Fuck You Cameron" and threw a martini in their face.
TLDR; If you don't show her you desire her; there's always someone else ready to do so, it's up to her.

Title	'Undercover' on Ashley Madison, interesting tips on how to game women post-30 and why women would cheat.
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Date	June 7, 2014 9:22 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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