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[–]West-CookFDS Newbie 154 points155 points156 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For the younger ladies here, even if he’s 15, you should still walk away from red flags. He might be capable of changing, but he won’t change if he isn’t given a reason to.
[–]QueenRizlaFDS Newbie 110 points111 points112 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
As Judge Judy says: He won't change, he's Cooked
[–]suspended_animation_FDS Newbie 45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Can't uncook a steak
[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
you can put it down the garbage disposal tho
[–]babyturtle1995FDS Newbie 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
😂😂😂
[–]suspended_animation_FDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Happy cake day!
[–]babyturtle1995FDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I didn’t even realize! Thank u 😌
[–]suspended_animation_FDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're welcome <3
[–]XlunasFDS Newbie 84 points85 points86 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A red flag is a red flag. I don't care if he's young; raising him is not my responsibility.
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple 49 points50 points51 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is so true. But I would argue that you could even go younger than that. The only reason I would give someone the benefit of the doubt is when you're both very young and inexperienced and eliminate the behavior early and easily.
My first big love was 19 when I met him and I just turned 18. He displayed some red flags, as I did at the time. The red flags came from us being very young and inexperienced. We talked about it and constructively solved the issues right in the beginning and no red flag was dropped in that relationship ever again.
If a 19 year old frat boy knows how emotional intelligence works, a grown ass men should know it too. It's not about 'being developed', it's about character.
[–]breadandbunnyFDS Newbie[S] 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If a 19 year old frat boy knows how emotional intelligence works, a grown ass men should know it too.
I also believe this.
[–]throwaway23004345FDS Newbie 98 points99 points100 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
After 25 they are trash too, don’t worry
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
trash AND look like shit (getting that 'old man' look already) 😭
[–]warinmymind94FDS Apprentice 43 points44 points45 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
If he's an adult and he's leaving his socks all over the floor, leaving dirty dishes, hangs his towels or outfit over a door, leaves his trash lay around, doesn't put his laundry in the hamper, and cant/won't cook for himself... he's not gonna change or get better.
Be careful of lvm pretending to be high value. Some will fool you even with vetting. Always pay attention to how they keep their place. I had one fake having a clean nice apartment the first time. When he was asleep check his fridge or pantry to see if is actual food and groceries, or just condiments and fast food trash. Check his shower when you're in the bathroom see if its actually dirty or if he uses actual soaps rather than just 3 in 1 or bar soap.
These signs are all red flags he is low value. You aren't his mom and literal pigs are cleaner.
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
These are such good points, I’ll definitely be doing this next time. My dad still leaves his socks on the floor and does so much of what you mentioned it saddens me to think of how many women were ingrained to accept this
[–]bringtwizzlersFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh my god yes, one of my exes made his house super clean the first 3 times I stayed over. After that, PIG STY. Mice, ants, I would have bug bites after sleeping over. Fuck that.
[–]throwthisawayred3 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
what if he uses a maid?
vetting is difficult when they're busy traveling professionals with no time to clean but still want to keep a clean place.
[–]warinmymind94FDS Apprentice 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If they are hiring a maid it shows me three important things
This was something I didn't think of, but my hometown is a poor area and it is a great question. Make sure he treats the maids fairly and with respect, if you go out on dates you can get an idea by how he treats cab drivers, waiters, etc. You also need to be careful that he won't want a girlfriend or wife to takeover and be a free maid for him once he knows her enough... always stay on your toes. Its sad to have such a paranoid outlook but we have to until they prove otherwise and I can personally attest that one really faked everything and fooled me for a little bit
[–]throwthisawayred3 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for your reply. whew
I'm from a poor area as well, so the whole maid thing is kinda snobbish to me, but I suppose it's an efficiency thing. It's hard to wrap my mind around. Both my parents cleaned their own crap lol.
[–]Unlikely-MarzipanRuthless Strategist 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can see why you’d think it’s snobbish, as I’m not from money either. But my mom made a good point - that it’s giving someone a job, especially in these times! As long as they are paid fairly and treated well.
I have girlfriends who are married that also hire cleaners, and they pay them well and treat them with respect.
[–]warinmymind94FDS Apprentice 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I immediately thought that he's making excuses to not clean up because of travel and work...my relative had a lot of money and traveled between states. She'd be at one house for 6 months and then her other house out of state for the next 6 months and keep switching off.... she never hired maids as the house didn't get that dirty just setting. She did have someone to come and check on it and would schedule groceries and food to be delivered for when after she arrived to save her the effort.... I would just advise to keep an eye and remember they are all LVMs until proven otherwise
[–]Half_HaltFDS Newbie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm neat as a pin when left to my own devices. Finally gave up & hired a cleaning lady to come biweekly. She gets the house clean to a point where I can at least maintain it in between. Both kids are home 24/7 due to the pandemic & both of them are dealing with depression/anxiety related to stuff going on at their dad's & have that depression clutter thing going on in their rooms. I can't keep up & my time is better spent going towards income generating activities for the business & doing stuff with the kids including schoolwork.
I've always been critical of the idea of "unskilled" labor, which a lot of people would claim house cleaning to be. All labor is skilled to me. Good profession cleaners know how to clean effectively & efficiently. And because she doesn't live here she's able to see the place holistically & doesn't get bogged down in the places where I tend to go crazy over-cleaning.
[–]Unlikely-MarzipanRuthless Strategist 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree on all those points. The guy I’m currently seeing does this. But to be fair, I hate cleaning too and if I could afford it/ justify it, then I would hire a cleaner too. But I don’t do any wifey things for him now, and also will be keeping on my toes if the relationship progresses further because there’s no way I’m becoming someone’s maid.
[–]gscoutjFDS Newbie 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Agree! But it’s 27 for men :) 25 for women.
[–]comradeconradicalFDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My sources say male brains are mature at 25 on average, women in the early 20s.
27 Seems a bit late for average male Prefrontal Cortex development and gives adult men too much leeway to claim they're 'just not fully developed yet'
[–]lemur00FDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes from what I've read 25 is the average number for men, not people. For women it's supposedly 21.
[–]oh_botha 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Just walk away from red flags regardless of age or gender.
Edit: I’ve stayed too long with both AFAB and AMAB folks that were both older and younger. Red flags are red flags.
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