Double standards: Woman grabs male comedian's crotch during a fan photo, goes on his show to proudly laugh about her actions. Feminist journalist argues that it's perfectly OK for women to grab men, because "power imbalance".

khaztraz · 2017-12-06T04:13:55+00:00

Just bad. Double standards mean nothing I guess. Apparentally since there is a "power imbalance" and he wasn't scared of her or in danger it's fine. Oh good so I guess I get to be groped by whatever girl feels the urge just because I don't think i'm in danger and men have more power then women? What kind of sick joke are idiots like these people having? Does logic not apply or do women just get to do anything that they please just because in the past things weren't equal?

Every day I want this planet to burn more and more just from pure stupidity.

EricAllonde · 2017-12-06T06:17:32+00:00

The average Aussie bloke, in an ordinary, low/middle paid job and with no celebrity profile, clearly has less power than a well-paid female journalist like Emma Reynolds.

So clearly that means any time a bloke like that sees Emma Reynolds in the street, it's perfectly OK for them to go up and grab her by the pussy. She has more power than they do, so by her logic it's OK.

HeForeverBleeds · 2017-12-06T06:31:56+00:00

The real power imbalance is that women can do it and get away with it, while when men do it they're branded sex predators for the rest of their lives

A man sexually harassed by a woman has no recourse like a woman does: he can't hit her in self-defense (without looking like a "woman-beater") like a woman can hit a man, and reporting her will give him nothing but shame for "complaining"

That's the imbalance: men are at a disadvantage in this situation

overly_optimistic_ox · 2017-12-06T05:02:45+00:00

About time these conversations are happening and people are being more aware of their actions

Jammersault · 2017-12-06T06:02:30+00:00

I wonder if their attitudes would be slightly different if the scenario included a bloke bitch slapping a woman after she had violated his bodily integrity?

BlueOrange22 · 2017-12-06T04:15:03+00:00

Which shows the hypocrisy. What if he's a victim of past sexual assault and this was very traumatic for him? And it's ableist to- what if he has a certain psychiatric condition where he strongly dislikes being groped by strangers?

it's pure womansplaining for feminists to say why it's ok for women to grope and inappropriately touch men. The "power imbalance" is a made-up and nonsensical argument.

Consilio_et_Animis · 2017-12-06T07:33:31+00:00

So she thinks that a 25 year old female teacher having sex with a 14 year old male pupil is no big deal?

2017-12-06T05:46:17+00:00

Kick her in the groin.

Tell her it’s payback for all the times women have kicked men in the nuts and thought it was funny.

kartu3 · 2017-12-06T09:12:27+00:00

Better than I expected. The fact that it is at least being discussed is some progress.

ExpendableOne · 2017-12-06T15:20:14+00:00

Jesus christ, the level of hamstering is beyond the charts. It's insane that anyone would even try to justify this with this type of rationalization. Truly demonstrates how feminism is a genuine obstacle to gender equality. And, another thing, people got offended at Trump saying "when you're famous they LET YOU grab them by the pussy". People always seem to neglect that first part. What Trump said or may have done was actually considerably less worse than what this girl did(and laughed about) because what Trump said about women actually fully implies consent. What this girl did explicitly demonstrated a lack of consent by a man.

"the overwhelming majority of harassment/cases happen where a woman is a victim"

The overwhelming majority of reported cases happen where a woman is a victim, specifically because women would over report acts which are not legitimate and because men would simply not report any case, no matter how legitimate, at all. Even if you completely ignored that, however, it's completely irrelevant. "more women get harassed than men" has literally nothing to do with this specific case. That's like saying "more black people tend to steal from white people, so there's a systematic imbalance and therefore it doesn't matter when white people steal from black people". Prior cases don't matter on the individual bases of each case. Groping is still groping.

"there is a power imbalance"

No, not really. That only exists in your head. Men don't have systematic power over women and most certainly not when it comes to sexual or social interactions like that. There are plenty of situations where women are in a position of power over a man, on an individual, social, sexual, professional or even systematic basis, and you are completely ignoring all of those just to justify a double-standard, legitimize any crime commited by a woman to a man and further vilify the entire male gender.

"it's different because it subverts the norms we're used to"

Wow... so, basically, not only is she saying that anything that is common is okay but also using the circular logic of "it's okay people do it, and people do it because it's okay" to defend the groping. The fact that some men may be okay with being groped without their consent simply indicates that men are conditioned to be okay with it and that women are specifically conditioned not to be. It demonstrates that the disparity between men and women here is entirely artificial and that the level of outrage really shouldn't be the objective measure of the crime. Laws should apply by one set of rules for everyone.

"It's never going to be the same or as threatening"

Why? What do you based that on? How do you know how threatening a man is or how non-threatening a woman is? You don't. You are just making assumptions which, in all reality, are heavily influenced by systematic prejudices and biases against men(mainly that men are perpetrators/vile, women are innocent/victims). The reason why people think men are more threatening and women are less threatening is because of this general, or systematic, negative predisposition towards men. You are not only trying to legitimize this double-standard but trying to legitimize an entire other set of systematic double-standard to do so.

"if he was really a victim, then he wouldn't be laughing about it after the fact"

First of all, no way that type of argument would pass for women. If a woman tried to stoically laugh about a crime that was committed against her, long after the fact, anyone who would even try to argue "see! she's laughing about it now so she was never a victim" would be immediately fired/lynched. Men generally react to their victimization with brash defiance/indifference, if not simply because they cannot afford to show any weakness or any offense getting to them at all, or because any expression of anger/rage can get them labelled as unstable/threatening(which, for a man, is actually a problem).

fengpi · 2017-12-06T02:21:34+00:00

Sure! Of course. Punching a man in his face and breaking his teeth is OK too, because power imbalance. That baby justifies everything. Why not?

Personally, I think every woman ought to be equipped with a combination chainsaw/flamethrower and have a license to run-around playing a real-life version of DOOM II. Because power imbalance.

8880886 · 2017-12-06T07:53:04+00:00

I just rang up to complain, for anyone else that feels the same compulsion: https://tenplay.com.au/contact-us

littlefilms · 2017-12-06T10:03:51+00:00

With this logic, a gay pedo shouldn't be excused if they molest and rape a young teenage boy? Since teenage boys often use homophobic language as a form of degradation, e.g calling someone a "faggot". So this puts teenage boys in a level of power... Good news house of cards fans

zulu127 · 2017-12-06T14:54:53+00:00

These stupid fucking men who are so starved for any contact that they think it's just fine to publicly fondle a guy...the one guy at the end said, "you can grab mine if you want." Pathetic.

reagan2024 · 2017-12-06T17:38:54+00:00

Wow, she's on TV laughing about it. Imagine the genders reversed and a male grabbing a female celebrity's crotch during a photo op. If a male can't do that to a woman, but a woman can laugh about doing it on TV, then there does seem to be a power imbalance that's not being spoken of, and which is in a direction that is not recognized.

reagan2024 · 2017-12-06T17:34:22+00:00

I wonder if they believe there is an inherent power difference between every male and every female? or just some males and some females?

If I'm a male in a wheelchair and I'm on welfare, and I'm next to Angela Merkel, Oprah Winfrey, or Melania Trump, does this power imbalance in my favor exist?

If not, then it's not maleness that can be responsible for any inherent power imbalance. It must be something else if such a power imbalance exists.

reagan2024 · 2017-12-06T17:35:20+00:00

In a lot of cases, I think women enjoy a power imbalance through leveraged reactions to supposed men's power imbalances.

perplexedm · 2017-12-06T09:06:25+00:00

They are just showcasing who are actually in charge and power.

KingRobotPrince · 2017-12-06T10:47:31+00:00

I'm not even going to watch it because will probably ruin my day.

The idea of one group being able to mistreat a member of another group because of some sort of perceived power imbalance is abhorrent. Particularly because the perceived power imbalance does not benefit all members of that group (so you are justifying attacking someone for the acts of another when they benefit in no way from those acts).

Here's what wikipedia says about Collective Punishment:

Collective punishment is a form of retaliation whereby a suspected perpetrator's family members, friends, acquaintances, sect, neighbors or entire ethnic group is targeted. The punished group may often have no direct association with the other individuals or groups, or direct control over their actions. In times of war and armed conflict, collective punishment has resulted in atrocities, and is a violation of the laws of war and the Geneva Conventions.

Things like collective punishment and labeling conservatives as Nazis to justify attacking them are just some of the examples of radical feminism/extreme leftism that I find incredibly worrying. I just feel glad that this is not taking place somewhere like Rwanda. It's easy to see how lies and manipulation like this quickly leads to atrocities in less stable countries.

sonofsuperman1983 · 2017-12-06T10:57:10+00:00

Double standard.

sonofsuperman1983 · 2017-12-06T10:57:47+00:00

That would ruin a guys career she does even have to think twice about it.

reagan2024 · 2017-12-06T16:42:42+00:00

Doesn't it create a power imbalance if women are allowed to grab men due to a "power imbalance"?

BoyWhoCriedNeo · 2017-12-06T23:29:35+00:00

Australia is pussified. Soon you won't be able to say "throw another shrimp on the Barbie", because it might offend a feminist called Barbie.

milksteak143 · 2017-12-06T23:51:33+00:00

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milksteak143 · 2017-12-07T19:44:32+00:00

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reagan2024 · 2017-12-06T17:39:42+00:00

Even the guys are laughing about it.

ThePigmanAgain · 2017-12-06T21:37:59+00:00

Bad news for Beyonce's tits if i ever run into her. After all, being rich and famous she has far more power than i do...

milksteak143 · 2017-12-07T18:26:22+00:00

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serial_crusher · 2017-12-06T15:34:57+00:00

I like being outraged by this sort of thing, but I don't like watching videos where somebody else narrates over it with their own outrage.

Anybody have a link to the original clip without this guy's commentary?

reagan2024 · 2017-12-06T17:47:35+00:00

On second thought, I think if the groping is accepted by the gropee, then it is fine, regardless of whether the groper or gropee is male or female.

But I don't think we should have a rule in society that it is generally, or necessarily, wrong for women to be groped by men, but not vice versa.

FeminineCookie · 2017-12-06T07:56:09+00:00

Omg it's not double standards women are oppressed all the time and you all cry over this. So predictable from men ugh.

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