I grasp that, technically, the plan criminalizes all male participants in heterosexual sex... Wait, what?!

thedarkmrpickles · 2009-10-09T00:36:52+00:00

What...is this real?

What is this awful feeling in my chest.

I'm a girl and I'm so confused as to how some women can be so dumb to believe this shit!

Daddy issues much?

BTSavage · 2009-10-08T23:55:14+00:00

I'm confused... Isn't this the way things work now? I mean, if a girl changes her mind two days later and says she was raped, they guy gets thrown in the slammer. How is this a new idea?

rmbarnes · 2009-10-08T21:35:25+00:00

If you think this is just a rant and she doesn't mean it, read the comments.

Kuonji · 2009-10-08T21:47:13+00:00

What? No way man. Feminism is all about equality! Right?!

ajram12 · 2009-10-09T07:34:53+00:00

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. That's it. I'm going to devote myself to seducing and mentally destroying as many feminist girls as I possibly can. Are you happy now feminist whore? I now have to use my abs for evil!

justpickaname · 2009-10-09T17:07:56+00:00

This would work in theory, except I've never heard anything so idiotic.

"knowing that the woman could drop a dime on him at any time should his deportment should fail to live up to her standards "

With great power, comes... oops, wrong quote. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

2009-10-09T03:40:34+00:00

that female participants are all infinitely rapeable, because all some perv has to do is say, “she said yes"

This is such bullshit. In reality all she has to do is say "I said no" and he's behind bars faster than you can say just kidding.

2009-10-09T00:19:47+00:00

Well, what of it? The set-up now, with the emphasis — in a misogynist world with a misogynist judiciary

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha… You just can't fake this stuff.

That the default position is not already an assumption of “no way, dude” speaks to women’s lack of power.

The law does not assume that women are automatically saying yes. The law assumes everyone innocent until proven otherwise, so it logically follows to assume that whatever is happening between two people is consensual (so no one is guilty of anything). Once one of the parties affirms that it isn't consensual, they then have the opportunity to substantiate that claim.

You know, the same way the law assumes no party is being automatically wronged or guilty in just about any other social interaction ever.

Gotta love feminism for brainwashing women into thinking the whole world is out to get them.

Why Women Are Unhappy . . . Another theory could be that the feminist movement taught women to see themselves as victims of an oppressive patriarchy in which their true worth will never be recognized and any success is beyond their reach.

antihostile · 2009-10-09T01:19:02+00:00

This is what passes for "thinking" among these so-called "radical" feminists. They are teachers, lawyers, social workers and judges.

pahncrd · 2009-10-09T01:19:43+00:00

What the fuck is wrong with people?! I'm serious... how can people actually think like this? Have they ever had an actual relationship in their entire lives? My guess is that there is some seriously deep and substantial self loathing that is going on if she actually believes the shit coming from her mouth.

Xhiro · 2009-10-09T04:26:14+00:00

I have heard this argument from a woman I was seeing (thank all that is sacred and holy) albeit briefly. She has a PhD in Neonatal Nursing Care, training the next generation of nurses. This tripe is commonplace in major universities. Quite honestly, it's commentary like this that have me too afraid to ever get involved with any woman (devastating to a heterosexual male) because I have too much to lose, especially in a state like Wisconsin.

Honest and truly, read the entire blog post. Sun Tsu, Art of War: Know Thy Enemy.

zahlman · 2009-10-09T00:29:16+00:00

Troll troll is troll.

Veldang · 2009-10-09T05:04:17+00:00

No matter what you do. Do not comment on that article. It is useless and will only make you look childish when they twist your every word in ways you couldn't imagine.

You have been warned. :)

coldacid · 2009-10-09T05:29:29+00:00

Crap like this makes me wish I was gay instead.

kragshot · 2009-10-09T00:20:01+00:00

This blog post has been posted in here at least three times prior to this one. In other words, it's old-ass stuff.

But to comment on it, and these women are wondering why some American men are either importing wives from abroad or leaving the country for saner pastures.

One of my buddies after a lot of bad luck with American girls (one cheated on him with another friend, and the other was basically just using him for cash) married a Filipino national and he hasn't looked back. They have three kids, he built her a house, and they have the coolest barbecues at his place. She does not act like a "subordinate" in the relationship and they are extremely happy together.

But I read somewhere that a group of women were trying to introduce a bill that would restrict the allowing of foreign women into the country for the purpose of marriage.

istiamar · 2009-10-08T22:18:31+00:00

Anyone have a mirror?

dagbrown · 2009-10-09T02:06:44+00:00

My Poe-o-meter is pinging softly on this one. I really want it to be parody.

gevander · 2009-10-09T00:51:51+00:00

In a system of "guilty until proven innocent" (which applies to almost everything EXCEPT sex in the US), the default should be "She said 'yes'."

Then the burden of proof is where it should be in our supposed justice system: On the accuser.

That has its faults as well. Actual rapes of violence would be hard to prove occurred, for example.

I still can't help thinking there has to be a "middle ground" somewhere.

ristin · 2009-10-09T05:35:28+00:00

That's exactly the current situation, but written trying to sound humerous.

knifebucket · 2009-10-09T12:17:36+00:00

Radical feminism is very often reverse sexism.

Liberaloccident · 2009-10-09T23:03:40+00:00

Troll blog?

aliengoods1 · 2009-10-12T20:03:53+00:00

Well, what if lack of consent were the default? What if all prospective objects of dudely predation — by whom I mean all women — are a priori considered to have said “no”?

I'm way ahead of you on that one. Through my life, no has most definitely been the default.

rasteri · 2009-10-09T00:51:54+00:00

She must be joking. Surely.

dentid4hed · 2009-10-09T01:45:00+00:00

That was poorly written drivel. "Insipid" isn't a fancy enough negative word to sum it up with, though "vacuous" comes close.

I can point out so many places where even the sentence structure falls apart, but the whole argument is common sense-retardant. Read it again, I implore all of you to go back and really pay attention to it. It stumbles all over itself to make a point and rambles on and on while getting there. A self-righteous, bumbling jack-ass with an opinion.

I mean sure. I'm the same kind of guy -bumbling jack-ass with an opinion is what I mean, but I like to go back over what I wrote and make sure it doesn't fall apart before the end.

That piece of shit fell completely apart before the fucking middle. The middle.

I stuck to it and read the whole thing and all I can really say is "I am underwhelmed."

Poor writing, poor argument, complete garbage. Downvoted and I am officially unsubscribing MR, if this is the kind of shit I find here, I'm out. I mean, I'm absolutely certain there are men and women who read this that I could really grow to admire, but I haven't seen anything compelling in MR at all. Ever. Just rants and whining. Makes me ashamed to call myself a man in such company.

--EDIT-- Forgot to mention, I know the writer's a woman and someone posted it here to show what the crazy feminist wrote... but that's just it. She's fucking insane. No real feminist thinks like that. This article is akin to the rantings of douchebag TV pundits no one really listens to anyway, only the writer here is... well... significantly more insignificant than any douchebag TV pundit could ever hope and pray to be. Now I'm out for real. A final note: I didn't intend to insult anyone other than the writer of that piece of shit article -and maybe anyone who thinks all feminists can be compared to that fucking loon. Go read Emma Goldman and tell me you think she's just like the rest of them.

Title	I grasp that, technically, the plan criminalizes all male participants in heterosexual sex... Wait, what?!
Author	rmbarnes
Upvotes	48
Comments	77
Date	October 8, 2009 9:35 PM UTC (16 years ago)
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