Constant reading of trashy bitchy articles and its effect on one's social perceptions. Hey guys: 30 Reasons Your Tinder Profile Sucks Too

Mr-Mojo-rising · 2016-01-16T10:41:36+00:00

This, like Dr Nerdlove, isn't written for male use or consumption. It is not intended to help you or even to be read by you. I'm coming to believe that articles like this that trash low-value men are the women's equivalent to TRP anger-phase posts sans actionable advice. It's catharsis for women that at this point I have to believe have valid scars from our common alienated conditions (if that doesn't sound too pretentious to say.)

Most of the time I've been insulted or belittled by a woman, she wasn't exactly a catch herself. You're as likely to find a muffin top and bad attitude on her as you are to find hours of porn on my computer and sock crustier than a dry sponge by my desk. Women who need advice for dating online are surely doing worse than most women. She drags paper across her ass most days same as me. I'll laugh at her horn-rimmed glasses and she can laugh at my flannel. The struggle will continue.

honeypuppy · 2016-01-16T11:22:46+00:00

a) Women simply aren't sexually attracted to men in the same way men are to women. They often need an emotional connection, or at least something other than just looks. So for looks alone to be enough, they better be really good looks. Red Pillers wrongly interpret this as meaning women all want to fuck Chad Thundercock and feel nothing for less attractive men. More accurately, women rarely have an instant lust for men based on looks alone, but they can develop it with intimacy. And even if they did have a lust for Chad, it's still not as a strong as a typical male's lust for an attractive woman, and it can fizzle out if Chad does something terrible.

b) That article is pretty much spot-on good advice about what not to do as a male in online dating. A couple of examples are personal taste, but the vast majority are along the lines of "don't message me with 'ay bby wuld u lyk sum fuk'". Really simple stuff, I don't think I've personally done any of it.

darkmoon09 · 2016-01-16T11:54:49+00:00

lol plenty of RP truths here, while I agree with some of the things she says most of it full of hypocrisy and narcissism. I handpicked my favorites:

3. Know your league. "If you want to step out of that league, do it with some game. (This sounds so shitty and shallow, but that's sort of the name of the game with online dating.) Dear not-super-hot guys, you make hot girls feel really bad when you send us messages about how we 'probably won't write you back, because of physical reasons X, Y and Z, but you thought you would try anyway.' No one is attracted to this type of self-consciousness in real life, so when you broadcast it online, it's literally all we are going to see. So you're a little pudgy or balding but you want to take me on a date? Then say something that will make me want to date you."

At least some women are willing to admit about the SMP and their hypergamy.

4. Are you kidding with these selfies? "Selfies in your bathroom scream, 'No friends.

Meh, if they actually like what they're seeing they won't mind at all. Women do it all the time as well with their online profiles, even on non-dating sites like Facebook.

5. Spare us the entitlement. "If I don't want to write you back, for whatever personal reason I have for doing so, that's okay. Swallow it! Just because you express interest in me does not mean I owe you anything in return.

Easy for you to say when you're in a position of receiving dozens if not hundreds of messages on a regular basis from men, you have the luxury of being the passive party who simply sifts through her offers like paperwork. Try being on the other end, where you constantly have to be proactive and keep messaging people you like and getting absolute zero results. I bet you'd feel a little irritated as well.

6. Literacy is super hot. "Do not initially contact me with: 'hey,' 'what's up,' or 'how r u.' I don't care if you're the hottest, smartest, most successful man, I will not reply to a message that took the least amount of humanly effort possible.

Same with No.3 they'll make an exception for Chad with abs.

7. We can read between the lines. "Men who feel the need to explicitly describe themselves as 'nice' are not usually nice at all. If you're nice, it will be self-evident when we talk to one another. It also makes it sound like you think you're entitled to sex."

Well geez, after decades of feminist indoctrination telling men they must be "nice" gentleman to women if they want to get anywhere with them you'd think guys will start saying they are...nice and gentlemanly? Who would've figured.

"If you have a bunch of coded stuff in your profile about how you're looking for a 'fit' woman who 'takes care of herself,' you might as well just be writing 'no fatties.' Don't talk about your preferred body type at all, actually. It's a turn-off. Just don't respond to women you aren't attracted to."

lol coming from the same person who is also saying that men mist "know their league" hahaha the hypocrisy and lack of introspection is astounding.

8. Are you actually trying to get blocked? "Don't call me 'babe' or 'bae' or 'sweetie' or any other such things in our first conversation. It's condescending and makes me feel like a hunk of female meat and not an individual.

Only if it's coming from a low-SMV beta/omega. When it's coming from Chad it's music to your ears.

10. Don't try so hard. "I think men get caught up in wanting to show they're adventurous. Ski masks, sunglasses, far away hiking/climbing/surfing pics. I have no idea if these men are my type!

Hmm, so posting pictures of yourself doing the things that you genuinely enjoy is now "trying to hard"? Isn't the point of that to convey what we're about by posting such pics? Whatever then. The goal-posts are always getting changed.

13. How tall are you, really? "Type your height into your profile. Now subtract two inches and type that instead. Let's have a threesome with reality. (I swear to god this is never wrong unless they're over 6'4" (actually 6'4")."

lol now she's doubting men who say they're tall? why would she doubt that? I guess word must have gotten around that women prefer tall men and so now every guy who lists himself as "tall" comes into doubt because...well, women are shallow and prefer tall guys. Nothing wrong of being shallow for TeamWomen of course but dammit men still need to be honest!

17. Tinder is not just a hook-up app. "Male Tinder profiles with the whole 'we all know what this is for/this isn't eHarmony' bullshit is kind of enraging. You can use the app for whatever the hell you please, but generalizing the whole thing says a lot about your entitlement. Tinder is whatever the users want it to be. Stop making sexist assumptions."

Sure. Whenever I need help with my computer science or engineering studies, I'll long onto Tinder and ask all the bright people there for their input. When I want to post a political rant I'll be on Tinder. Get real lady. Tinder is VERY much a hookup/dating app.

19. Stop expecting us to have it all figured out. "'What are you looking for?' is a super annoying and unanswerable question. On any given day I am looking for someone to bang, or marry, or date. Plus if I say I am only looking for something casual, and I meet you, I don't get to change my answer. And if I am looking for a relationship, what if I meet you, and you are dumb but pretty enough to bed? I don't like setting parameters on a person I haven't met yet. That's nuts."

It's a pretty simple question but you basically just don't want to admit and say I"m just having fun and riding the Cock-Carousel. This is Tinder after all ;)

26. Photos, photos, and really, let's talk about those photos. "Post a pic that actually looks like you. I know if Ima hit that within about 5 seconds. Spare us both the awkwardness of me thinking you were a yes, when you are clearly a no, but now we still have to have a whole conversation because you lied."

Again, thanks for the honesty on hypergamy.

28. Fill out your whole stinking profile. "Also, don't send one-line emails and expect me to do a lot of work on my end, like answer that message. If you don't mention something specific in my profile, like, 'I saw you like this band. I saw them in concert last summer…' then I'll assume that you just saw my photos and wanted to get laid. NOT INTERESTED. And if you say you're interested in a relationship in your profile, you BETTER BE INTERESTED IN A RELATIONSHIP. Otherwise you are a dick and are wasting my time. If I don’t message you back, then I probably never will. Do not send me a third and fourth message. It makes you look like needy crybaby psycho, and no one wants one of those."

lol reminds me of this http://i.imgur.com/DtyzZ.jpg

29. Don't only see the physical. "Please don’t make references to how 'sexy' or 'hot' I am in your first message to me. I know. I have a mirror.

Coming from someone who knows whether or not she'll sleep with a man within the first 5 seconds of seeing them. Gotcha.

30. Do something already. "When you ask me how my day is going, it makes me want to punch you in the face. Man up and talk to me like an interesting human being.

How else should we open up? A simple 'hi are are you' warrants a face punch?

Guys, don't buy into the bullshit. Tinder is a hookup app (the girls like to pretend it's not. Some are there just for attention/validation), lifting is essential and women do like handsome bodies so don't be afraid to show it off on your profile though it's hard to imagine guys who'd even bother with the type of women on Tinder after reading this.

hyperrreal · 2016-01-16T16:52:47+00:00

Here are my thoughts

She mentions that she's fat, so I'm sure part of the problem is that she's always dealing with unattractive men.
Any guy with game will already be avoiding virtually all of the behavior she describes.
It's hilarious to me that she thinks viewing Tinder as hookup app is sexist, but telling me to "man up" is totally acceptable.
That article was published by xoJane, so it should come as no surprise that it's cancerous.

midnightvulpine · 2016-01-16T12:11:31+00:00

The article seems to me to be a mix of bad opinion, a few common sense items and bits of actual useful advice when it comes to presenting yourself to this particular writer and perhaps some women in general who think like she does. So your usual opinion piece on most things.

Really, you shouldn't think about how people may judge you. People are always judging those around them, men and women. It's always happened and will always happen. The problem is thinking about it too much, making it far too important to yourself when you shouldn't focus on it at all. Which is, admittedly, easier said than done.

RareBlur · 2016-01-16T17:17:14+00:00

Your sample size is a little too small and anonymous to draw any conclusions on.

I disagree with your interpretation of the article. Here is what I see there:

1 and 2 are a bit similar except 2 is explicitly about sex. Bragging about some supposed sexual ability on your profile makes it sound like shallow marketing jargon. It doesn't impress the ladies and it in fact makes them question the truth of it when the man says things like pleasing the woman is better than sex itself. This isn't laughing at erectile dysfunction or inexperience it's laughing at the marketing like speech that actually is not appealing to women at all. The first one is also having cliche marketing jargon about how manly you supposedly are.

A profile is like writing. Show don't tell.

For #3 the title is a bit misleading. The advice is not "don't message hot girls" but actually "don't put yourself down in your message" build yourself up and tell the girl why you are awesome, because you are.

Then it's take a nice professional photo. Good advice.

Don't be a jerk on tour profile. Words like, if I don't write back blah blah are dumb. If you have to write that out then it just sounds like some rude bragging of some kind. If you are too busy you are to busy it happens, people move on to men who responded.

6 is saying to be sincere and at least read her profile to see if you have that ngs in common.

Seven is good advice and telling the man to avoid nice guy flags. If younger nice then it will show in how you response no need to tell someone you are nice. The last bit is good too just don't reply to women you don't find attractive no need to be rude about this it.

Eight is more sincerity again in responses. I think thus is the difference in dating sites over hookup sites.

9 and 10 and 12 are about the photo again. Show your face and smile in a recent picture.

Eleven is suggesting he comes across as elitist when talking about income requirements.

13 is to be honest, they will find out eventualy

14 is kind of like leave a little mystery or don't share too much personal information. In my opinion a lot of women don't find the act of a guy working out all that interestin.

And so on....

A lot of this advice I think is good but might be hard to take.

insurrecto · 2016-01-16T18:19:33+00:00

This comment has been overwritten by an open source script to protect this user's privacy.

If you would like to do the same, add the browser extension GreaseMonkey to Firefox and add this open source script.

Then simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top.

bromance946 · 2016-01-16T18:26:34+00:00

Don't lose hope man, far more than 0.2 percent of men pair up. This is exaggerating the negative and you know it.

wuboo · 2016-01-16T23:30:41+00:00

You may want to lay off on reading trashy articles. The Internet is full of them and will only take away your attention on what matters.

Whisper · 2016-01-17T12:50:27+00:00

I asked them, so you are only all round attracted to 0.2% of men, onlt 0.2% of men women encounter are are LTR material, intimacy and love worthy? 1 in 500 men are worthy of plain Janes?! Can we not form a hierarchy of attractiveness based off this? To which they said, ye but Women are people, we're all different, end of. Then they contacted a moderstor to flag my wuestion so it would get limited distribution.

Why are you trying to reason with a woman?

Don't you get it yet?

They sometimes know what's reasonable, and they sometimes don't, but under no circumstances do they care. They are interested in whatever they can get away with.

If you try to reason with them, they win. Because you are asking them to see things from your point of view. Which they will never do.

If you laugh at them and dismiss their nonsense with scorn, you win. Because they cannot force you to act according to the insane worldview they are trying to sell.

Women have only the power men give to them.

betterdeadthanbeta · 2016-01-16T11:13:07+00:00

Pay attention to what the pussy does. Mouths are untrustworthy, pussy don't lie. Women fuck average looking schlubs all the time.

You should keep in mind that A) women are stupid, and B) women lie. Women lie to each other and others that they have all these high standards while knowing deep down that they will never attain a man who can meet all, or even most, of their mile long list of requirements.

Why? Because it makes them seem, and feel, high value, acting like they have a bunch of options. When in fact they know deep down they don't, other than for being pumped and dumped of course.

In a neutral state, women's standards are high (high enough to end the human species if they were legit since not enough people would be breeding). Once she begins experiencing attraction though, the standards start lowering ... Eventually she's even making up qualities that you don't even have, in order to feel like she is fucking a worthy dude. Women believe whatever feels good for them to believe and that is about the extent of their mental capacity.

[deleted] · 2016-01-16T13:05:08+00:00

Those articles always make me laugh a little..

Men!! If you want to date my overweight ass and help me raise my kids here is a long list of requirements you need to meet..

My favorite is always the no selfies.. Do women even realize that men don't sit around taking pictures of each other to post on social media??

[deleted] · 2016-01-16T13:50:05+00:00

Lol non of these are even high standards

Its basically be cool and look nice

wtknight · 2016-01-16T13:58:21+00:00

These articles don't bother me. It's okay to be somewhat picky, but incredibly pkcy people usually spend an inordinate time single and unhappy, or at least not as happy as they could be. It's their choice to be like that and I don't think this type of behavior is universal at all among women, as many don't seem very picky at all about the type of men they are willing to date.

[deleted] · 2016-01-16T14:24:24+00:00

Goddamn that was painful.

Ekaj_B · 2016-01-16T15:03:44+00:00

It's hard to take the "no shirtless" seriously. I changed from that to a professional picture of me in a suit, at a mates wedding smiling. No matches at all from then onwards.

Before someone says it, yes, my face is probably nothing special (always thought it was average to be honest).

[deleted] · 2016-01-16T16:52:41+00:00

Funny article. The bit about sunglasses was incredibly accurate, I thought I was the only one who noticed ugly dudes covering half their faces to appear hotter. They also take pictures from the side and stick their chins out to fake a good jawline haha.

And Xen, don't worry so much about being judged. Most women won't even care you exist, they have no reason to nitpick your qualities. They'll only judge if they're considering you as a romantic/sexual partner.

AmericanHistoryAFBB · 2016-01-16T20:02:41+00:00

Fuck Tinder. I'm above average looking and yet women are so fucking picky and want perfection Tinder is for cunts like this: http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/17/i-swiped-right-to-all-the-men-on-tinder-and-this-is-what-happened-5106611/

Iwanttoliveinspace · 2016-01-16T22:16:59+00:00

That article screams single and don't want to admit that guys don't want to keep dating me.

Women can say all the things they don't want in a guy, but if you followed that list, there's no men that would actually fit into the tiny little box that remains.

They are searching for the perfect guy, and in that, I mean a guy who is at almost worshippable level.

Which is just hypergamy in full effect.

Because they all (that contributed to the article) think that they are worth such a perfect guy, they are going to shut test everyone they meet from the app, and the guys aren't going to want to meet up, or continue meeting up.

But hey, that's not the woman's fault that guys don't want to see her, because she's a motherfucking princess and deserves Prince Charming.

I just find it hilarious that it's going to take until their 30s when the 60 metre diameter penny drops; Prince Charming isn't real, and if he were, he wouldn't want their picky asses because, well, he's a god damned Prince

cxj · 2016-01-17T02:44:24+00:00

Nothing too surprising for regular readers here, but worth the share and relevant to PPD.

I respect the author for seeking the truth. Before doing this article you posted, she actually did the reverse article featuring men's POV on women's dating profiles. She even did her best to restrain her own opinion on men's opinions.

http://www.yourtango.com/2014238116/15-brutally-honest-things-men-wont-tell-you-about-online-dating

damaskrose · 2016-01-17T20:55:07+00:00

Sure, individual women are only attracted to <5% of men, but not all women are attracted to the same 5% of men. I'm attracted to my husband, but I don't think 80% (or even 20%) of random women would find him attractive, cause we'd all have different tastes. It certainly doesn't mean a guy has to be in the "Top 5%" (however that's defined) in order for any women to find him attractive.

Title	Constant reading of trashy bitchy articles and its effect on one's social perceptions. Hey guys: 30 Reasons Your Tinder Profile Sucks Too
Author	Xemnas81
Upvotes	10
Comments	36
Date	January 16, 2016 10:17 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/417tgy/constant_reading_of_trashy_bitchy_articles_and/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/constant-reading-of-trashy-bitchy-articles-and-its.276910 https://theredarchive.com/post/276910

Comments