Which Is The Best Pickup Artist Bootcamp?

MO_drps_knwldg · 2024-06-06T12:49:53+00:00

The thousands of dollars you spend on a boot camp could be spent on a new wardrobe, a gym membership, books. Daygaming and dating apps are free, experience and maxing your attractiveness and social skills will yield more results over time

norwegiandoggo · 2024-06-06T06:14:10+00:00

There's one science based dating coach who is a Phd in this stuff. Here's the study they did showing how his teachings improved outcomes on a speed dating event.

I cannot remember his name but if you go through the study i believe that it is there somewhere. You may also have to Google a bit. But anyway he's Asian too.

MrAnonPoster · 2024-06-06T13:07:37+00:00

The one who can pick up random hottie at Felix in Soho during a Sunday brunch.

Spoiler: none of them can because none of them have ever in their life picked up even hottie's "ugly" friend.

All of these bootcamps simply separate fools from their money.

MajesticFerret36 · 2024-06-08T02:58:09+00:00

The reason dating coaching is dying is because most advanced guys will wing you for free as long as you're not a tool, just because game is fun and showing off is fun.

If you can afford a plane ticket and hotel in Houston and agree to pay for my drinks any night we go out and aren't a jerk, I'll coach you for free.

Just dm me and tell me in advance and I'll see if my schedule aligns.

Fantastic-Life-2024 · 2024-06-06T08:41:52+00:00

Life experience

Only_Seaworthiness16 · 2024-06-06T20:10:05+00:00

I like Todd Valentines stuff but haven't done his boot camp

mdeeebeee-101 · 2024-06-07T08:46:00+00:00

In Asia, or Asian guy's...?

If in Asia... I think RedpoleQ is still going strong based in Japan...he is an African-American expat.

He will have coached tons of Asian guys since around 2006 or so as well as expats.

Odd_Nectarine_3925 · 2024-06-08T22:57:01+00:00

My experience would be really valuable to you as I was intentionally experiencing the whole spectrum of dating world in the last 2 years as a Chinese student living in LA.

I was a high-achiever in school. I got good social validation from it and had 2-3 girls over my 4 year university experience. I did enjoy the relationship dynamics and sex, but they all ended badly. When I was reflecting those experiences, I realized the following:

1, My confidence came from my ego that I am young and smart. It is situational, unstable and destroyed easily when there needs to be more emotional intelligence and experience to handle chaoses as a man.

2, My Chinese family background is building a ton of insecurities in my mentality. They tends to discourage everything other than schooling and being compliant with them. But they came from their Chinese background too, so it's my job to step out of this pattern and create something new for the next generation.

3, My past relationships are built on insecurities and needs from both sides. I need sex and egoistic fulfillments, and the girls need various emotional support. But deeply they are not committed to me as a man and they don't have the idealistic physical and emotional traits of the women I want to be with.

I realized this 4 years ago. Even after I realized it, there are still a lot of denial, fallback and procrastination to change. Then COVID hits and I got stuck in my PhD, I went through the hardship of depression. I couldn't talk to anyone and always feel everything I do is wrong. This is another topic, but getting through it with various experiences: therapy, spirituality and psychedelics, really helped me to heal and be more present.

I begin to take actions in dating in 2022 after overcoming the stigma of the PUA world. To my surprise, I had a date and one night stand with a white girl pretty soon, which drove me to more actions and more craving for informations. I begin to day game and approach girls. I got in touch with a Chinese meditation guy in dating world, leaned to use mediation to alleviate the root cause of my anxieties, but I still got frustrated over several months because I am still not connected to a girl that's lively.

I then took a Bootcamp with ABCs of Attraction. The honest reason is because it is the cheapest that I can afford and it is in LA. I was lead through the night clubs in Hollywood and got triggered and anxious in those environment. The coaches give feedback during and after each infield sessions, and I felt heard, first time, by an Asian dating coach who went through the journey and got successful. I then put deposit for long-term training.

Striking_Seesaw5557 · 2024-06-09T19:54:23+00:00

I'm very similar to you (mid twenty average-looking Asian with no experience with women). I took the ABCs of Attraction Bootcamp, and here's my two cents on the topic.

The content of the bootcamp is important, but in all honesty, it's SECONDARY. As one of the comments implied, you can spend thousands of dollars instead on stuff you find recommended on the internet - haircuts, fashionable clothes, gym memberships, etc.
The PRIMARY aspect of the bootcamp is the support you get from the coach, and the motivation to improve. You know yourself the best, so ask yourself this. After spending thousands of dollars on a glow up, do you think you'll be independently motivated to spend the many hours, many dates (and assuming you're paying for the dates, many dollars), and be willing to be rejected many times before you finally see any improvement?
- For calibration, I'm a mid twenty year old Asian virgin. I was VERY motivated to lose it. I literally left a comfortable life behind, switched jobs, and moved cities to NYC (place most recommended for Asian males) for dating. If I was 50% serious about dating before, I gave 100% now. And after 40 failed dates in 4 months (from Hinge), I gave up on improving individually. The time and money was secondary (probably about 100 hours and $2000) - rejection is demoralizing.

TL;DR - like with picking up any skill, you can learn anything online. The crucial part of having a (good) coach is to expedite the learning process through feedback and motivation. I would recommend looking into the ABCs of Attraction Bootcamp as it's specially marketed towards Asian Americans.

You can read more on my review of the ABCs of Attraction bootcamp on Yelp

Also feel free to DM me if you want to talk more

Common_Buy4419 · 2024-06-10T23:26:53+00:00

Hey there,

I totally get where you're coming from. I grew up in a typical Asian household too, where studying was everything, and it left me struggling with talking to girls and dating. I've always felt behind others in dating and wanted the confidence to change that. I recently went to a Dating Boot Camp in NYC with the ABCs of Attraction, and it was honestly amazing.

JT Tran is a fantastic dating coach who really understands the challenges Asian men face. The boot camp was packed with useful tips and practical advice on how to meet women and improve your dating skills.

I was pretty skeptical at first – worried about the cost and if it would be worth my time. I even questioned if I was the right fit for something like this. But JT's teaching helped me do things I never thought I could and gave me tools I can keep using to get better at dating and build my confidence.

If you're thinking about trying a dating coach, I highly recommend JT Tran and the ABC's of Attraction. It's a challenging weekend, but you'll see real, positive changes. You won't regret it!

Good luck man!

Feel free to DM me if you've got questions.

Odd_Nectarine_3925 · 2024-06-14T04:03:26+00:00

ABCs of Attraction by JT Tran(Asian Playboy). It's systemic and tailored to the specific situation of Asian in America. I put down my experiences in my other comment.

Creepy_Battle_4103 · 2024-08-03T20:02:12+00:00

I took JT Trans ABCs of Attraction bootcamp and here’s my review: Growing up in a typical Asian household, academics were always prioritized over socializing, which took a huge toll on my confidence with girls. When I started college, I found myself struggling to talk to women and navigate the dating world. Then, one day, my dad stumbled upon a YouTube video of JT Tran, an ABCs of Attraction coach, effortlessly picking up two beautiful women in the street by just saying the word “pineapple”! As he caught their attention, they were laughing but also seemed drawn in. After keeping the energy going for a bit he eventually kiss the two girls. We were intrigued, especially when we found out JT offered live bootcamps to teach his techniques. I was skeptical at first, thinking it might be a costly gimmick like many TikTok motivation videos. However, after reading mostly positive reviews on Yelp, I decided to give it a shot. With some encouragement from my parents, we signed up for the bootcamp.

After our first lecture, we went straight to the bars to go practice. As soon as we got there, JT Tran demonstrated to us by approaching a table of bachelorette girls. Right off the rip he walked in with huge energy and got them to laugh. After a bit of banter he slowly brought us in and had us take over, which was really nerve racking. After that I approached ten sets of women at a bar, mostly 7s or 8s out of 10 in attractiveness. Surprisingly, the conversations went smoothly. I tried not to be all up in my head and instead put the conversation on her and I even got numbers and set up dates for the next day. Although walking into this was really intimidating, after each set it felt so rewarding no matter if it was a rejection or not.

The second night was a game-changer. I found myself talking to a 10/10 tall, athletic blonde woman. JT Tran approached her and her roommate by simply complimenting them and holding their hand and bringing them over to our table. Thanks to the practice from the first night, I felt more at ease and confident, engaging in playful banter. She noticed my calm demeanor and confidence, which she found attractive. Because she sat right next to me, I was able to put my arm around her shoulders and kinda pull her in to make it more intimate. In a moment I never anticipated, she asked if we could make out! Caught off guard and unsure, I panicked and turned her down—a decision I now consider my biggest regret.

Raised in a Christian and Asian culture where sex before marriage is discouraged, this was a mind-blowing experience for me. As a self-proclaimed nerd with little sexual experience, it was overwhelming how quickly things escalated. Meanwhile, my wingman, another bootcamp student, hit it off with the girl’s roommate and ended up going home with her. When I recounted the weekend to my parents, they wouldn’t believe me.

Walking into a set blindly is very scary, but that’s where the lectures and demonstrations come in. We learn concepts and techniques that allow us to control the conversation and things that move toward attraction. Although it takes a lot of practice to get somewhat decent at it, this bootcamp gave me a good intro and roadmap on how to seduce women. It was definitely a confidence booster too as I started to realize that girls don’t really pay attention to your insecurities but more on how you present yourself. Even though I had some success, it was still a step in the right direction and that’s all that matters to me. There were some students that got some good results and some not so much, so the results do depend on how much effort you put in. For anyone struggling with self-doubt or lacking confidence, I highly recommend this bootcamp. It really opens your eyes to what you’re capable of.

I also posted a yelp review of anyone wants to check out: https://yelp.com/biz/abcs-of-attraction-asian-dating-coach-los-angeles

Electrical_Formal755 · 2024-06-06T11:14:59+00:00

mindful-masculinity.org/2023/12/07/10-critical-factors-you-need-to-consider-from-dating-coaches-marketers-course-sellers/would recommend these blog posts before investing in any dating coach:

mindful-masculinity.org/2023/12/13/why-the-mens-pua-and-dating-self-development-scene-has-declined-so-much/

mindful-masculinity.org/2024/06/05/assessing-the-fall-of-james-marshalls-the-natural-lifestyles/

Long story short you are best off saving your money and investing real time in finding good quality wingmen and forming relationships and bonds with said wingmen :

mindful-masculinity.org/2020/10/17/the-importance-of-good-wingman-to-those-starting-out-on-their-seduction-journey/

gbaguinon · 2024-06-06T11:57:41+00:00

Try Mystery. He has an online bootcamp coming up. A one-day online bootcamp is like 700 bucks, and sign-ups may or may not be capped depending on how many sign up. The 3-day online bootcamp is 2300 bucks, sign-ups are capped at 30 people.

Kathykit1 · 2024-06-06T08:44:00+00:00

It’s hard for me to imagine a “seduction boot camp” that isn’t filled to the brim with toxic rhetoric. Idk it just sounds slimy

shinn497 · 2024-06-06T22:42:01+00:00

The System by Todd Valentine. He's not asian, but he is the best

7thdownhill · 2024-06-06T23:35:49+00:00

Radiant_Ad_8907 · 2024-06-08T10:18:09+00:00

Mine

Outside-Skin8996 · 2024-08-14T04:32:54+00:00

In anything worth getting good in life you need to get experts in the field, people on top of their game. The bible says there is wisdom in wise council, who is the wise council? Experts :)

Outside-Skin8996 · 2024-08-14T04:33:42+00:00

Learn from from True Alpha and Omega Jesus Christ on how to be a man and everything else will added onto you, submit to the father of lights who created attraction!

Outside-Skin8996 · 2024-08-14T04:38:15+00:00

Please men call me 503 553-9010 Nikolay I had a paralyzed leg growing up if anybody knows about internal game its' most men don't have a clue. I will disciple you for free.

Odd_Nectarine_3925 · 2024-06-08T22:57:12+00:00

I was also exploring spiritualities at the same time. The inner work and psychedelics really helped me surface my deepest stigma, be suffering-free and allow me to take risks. Even though I am on debt after all these, I took more debt and joined long-term training to work with JT Tran in ABCs of Attraction.

The first Aha moment happens, when I was doing my 1st night infield after 2 online sessions on lifestyle change and situational awareness. I talked to a black actress, led her to dance floor, danced and made out. I begin to enjoy nightlife but wasn't able to incorporate the tactics as there are subconscious resistance to anything that feels manipulative.

After more sessions, especially a fashion make-over session, I had my 2nd and most dramatic transformative experiences in a table game session. I was in a light blue suit and got more validations. JT told me I am now in status and I feel immediately different. I took some alcohol and sticked to the tactics I learned during the day. To my surprise, I brought 20 girls to the table that night. I felt like a king. Also, we escalated 2 Ukraine girls.

Over 10 months of training, I am now emotionally stable during whatever environment and how many rejections. I sometimes made out with really attractive tall white girls in 1 hour of encounter. I've got a few dates as well. I find the training from ABCs of Attraction is the most valuable investment I have in my life. Below are a few realizations throughout the journey on dating and also on life:

1, The digital courses are helpful to some extent. But when one wants to implement it only with the digital courses, the action will be twisted by one's own ego and the results will gradually get mediocre. Needless to say that the courses are highlighting snippets of their action without showing everything around it: the logistics, the emotional experiences and the failures, which is important for sustainable tactics and results. I won't recommend to learn it alone nor obsess over different courses.

2, All the psychological work will help clear the mind and help one achieve things easier, but it couldn't replace real work in the real life where one will experience real tension. I was in this rabbit hole for a while and not taking a lot of actions. JT, on the other side of spectrum, emphasizes a lot on executing the tactical work, which balanced my nerd mentality and brought me on track.

3, You do need an Asian brotherhood on this where you can resonate and be cheered up when you improved on being with girls. I used to go to a Chinese church and talked to an American girl there for a date. Then when I got back to the Chinese table, guys begin to ridicule me. The culture nowadays favors mediocrity and that's why we are stuck.

4, You'll get your return of investment. I saw charming guys sitting on the club doing nothing. I saw rich Indian dating an actress but never hold her hand while she's sending us ton of interests. I saw guy hoping the "female friend" that's already been led away by a black guy could go back. Imagine how much money it would cost if you use money to show your value and end up not getting genuine interest from them. Getting rid of the bullshit that man now have will save you tons of trouble and money.

5, It's a painful journey that less traveled. I am still in the emotional ups and downs as I am now actively dating and facing more and more real interactions on my masculinity, my identity and my intention with beautiful smart women. This is correlated with #3. I gradually experienced that being a man means being challenged in various ways and living through it. Every time I went through hell, I taste it and got a rebirth. JT and ABCs of attraction is my go-to for feedbacks and supports. If you joined us, I want you to know that we love you, will hold you back and be patient with yourself.

I feel this is your calling to see this message and I wish to see you in LA. Here is the portal for transformation: https://www.abcsofattraction.com .

sixsevenzero · 2024-06-06T05:46:53+00:00

I would highly recommend Kameron Devon crew, less than 2k and you get coaching online and a bootcamp. He boosted my inner confidence which is priceless to me, fixed my self esteem issues, he has you do inner work and outer work actual game and techniques

masonwindu77 · 2024-06-06T15:10:52+00:00

Surprised that the comments on this thread have been putting down bootcamps. If you're just starting out and don't have good volume, access to good friends, and want faster results, definitely go for a bootcamp.

Karisma King (on YT) does bootcamps in Vegas for a good price.

Step Into Fear (Ares) (IG) does bootcamps in Austin.

AgHayden probably also does them in Austin.

RSD has "live social training" but not as well done for 1:1 interaction + help.

The biggest thing I've gotten from bootcamps is an environment where I'm given "permission" to approach girls (coming from a place where friends or people I know consider approaching weird) and then I'm given direct feedback from the interactions. My suggestion is to find the dating coach and philosophy you align with FIRST and then, decide on bootcamp.

Do you plan to meet women during the day and stay busy with your work? Going out to bars and clubs for night game? Casual dating? Knowing that will help limit options to choose from with the coaches. They will have different philosophies. Hope this helps.

BravoPUA · 2024-06-06T20:56:59+00:00

I’d put my old bootcamps up against anyone’s.

But after all the PUA cancel culture BS. Everything moved to private 1on1s.

And, I’ll put my 1on1’s up against anyone’s.

DM me if you want info.

sexygorilla1 · 2024-06-06T08:06:49+00:00

Ultimate man project

average_turanist · 2024-06-06T09:09:27+00:00

There’s boot camps? What the hell?

Ronnyvar · 2024-06-06T08:55:42+00:00

The one where you wake up

Alex_Social_Dating · 2024-06-07T14:04:22+00:00

absolutely the best program is the 4 week natural. its 33 days training, and has been running in the same form, with the same coach in major cities all over the world. All above board, about 700 graduates.

I've done the program myself.. reasonably priced and two levels of life changing.

can't recommend enough. Google 4 Week Natural

Title	Which Is The Best Pickup Artist Bootcamp?
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