"The game"

KoleSekor · 2025-05-03T17:29:47+00:00

Women are dying for a confident, attractive man to approach them and make them feel good. Adventure and fun is their favorite things.

KarmicPlaneswalker · 2025-05-03T13:32:26+00:00

So is it really just a game of which female will allow you to have sex?

Correct.

There are over eight billion people on this planet. It's a strict numbers game, yet we humans are bending over backwards to add extra steps into a process that should be very simple and straightforward.

yourfavcutietonight · 2025-05-03T12:53:10+00:00

Nobody remembers the rejections, they only remember the successes in the long run. A mlb player batting 300 is considered one hell of a player…. Even though he fails 7/10 try’s

Western-Month-3877 · 2025-05-03T13:43:18+00:00

I wouldn’t say his infield was really bad, maybe not impressive but yeah.

The old time PUA’s had that kinda mindset of “numbers game”, not just about getting the probability higher but literally having a goal to get a woman’s number. This is why Paul Janka just did hit and run most of the time; 4-5 mins, numbers closing and leave. Then he will call her at night hoping they will meet again. Remember he also claims his lay number is only 3-4% if I’m not mistaken. So if he said he’s slept with more than 200 just do the math how many approaches he’s done.

I think the game itself has metamorphosed into something better. If I remember correctly the “rotation” game was introduced later. Why do you need to keep approaching hundreds more if you could rotate 3-5 women on hand? People make it sound that sex can only be done 1 time or women are just disposable instead of reusable (so are men).

Second I think if you want a faster hookup your best bet is night game. The atmosphere and environment in a club/a bar is already conducive enough, women go there to have fun and sex is included, too.

“Getting her number” shouldn’t be a goal. It’s so easy any men could do it. And we know from our experiences that women can always give us their number if that means we would leave them alone. So when we try to call them next time, of course they won’t pick it up. Imagine Paul Janka who claimed to graduate from Harvard run around this cycle for years lol. “hmm idk why my % is only 3% and most women don’t answer when I call them, they are the ones who gave me their #.”

If you want to do daygame I wouldn’t approach them on the street like Paul Janka did. Do it in a mall or a grocery store; far better environment. Women there will take their time to talk to you because they’re doing some errands instead of you having to stop them while they’re physically moving toward their destination.

so the more you approach the more you will get lucky

This is why I don’t really agree with the “numbers” concept. Imagine putting a guy like Paul Janka in the game, and a regular random guy doing the same amount of approach. Let’s say the random guy is also a bit above average in appearance and looks to make it close enough to Janka. If both of them could only get 3-5% then what’s the purpose of seduction skills or even selling courses? The math isn’t mathing.

Prestigious_Water336 · 2025-05-03T17:03:53+00:00

NYC is one of the easiest places to get laid.

I believe that number.

If he loves close to the bars it's very easy to pull women.

epimpstyle · 2025-05-03T14:43:16+00:00

Making a video for YouTube or TikTok to show viewers how easy it is to 'break the ice' is one thing, it needs to be something short but actually being effective in real interactions is completely different and now it will be a conversation of about 15-20 minutes, it is very boring, nobody would want to watch. Then, on the second day, it is the texting "game", which is also boring and it might take 1 weeks to 1 month for the "magic" to happen. Instant results are very rare., it is like winning the jackpot.

So the more you approach the more you will get lucky and has nothing to do with "game" or "seduction"?

This is how most people understand it, they say it’s like fishing. But in reality, "game" and "seduction" are about women who are initially neutral (she doesn’t see you as attractive, but she doesn’t completely reject you either.). In this stage you need "game" to increase the attraction level.

becomesharp · 2025-05-04T08:25:12+00:00

Paul came on the scene relatively late (around 2008ish i believe) but never struck me as a particularly high-skilled guy. Not a slight against him at all, just a general observation. He played the natural angle -- be tall, very good looking, do a lot of approaches, and be relatively charming.

That does work if you have those advantages. I'm pretty sure if I was born with those advantages, I would use them in similar ways.

He's also roughly my age (late 40s, i think) and he's likely been approaching for close to 30ish years, so 200 isn't an outrageous number for 3 decades of approaching. It wouldn't shock me if that number was accurate.

That said, to me, "game" or "seduction" (being a 5'4" asian guy) was always about the skill of being able to outperform your lot in life. It was the skill of being able to date out of your league. A guy who is a 9/10 dating a woman who is an 8/10 never really impressed me, because that was the equivalent of me dating a 2/10, given that I'm physically a 3/10 in America or western countries. That wouldn't take any skill.

What always impressed me was a guy who was able to date women he WASNT SUPPOSED to be able to date. That's what game was to me, and to a lot of us back in the day, because most of us at that time were D&D dorks who started out as virgins who never thought we would ever be able to kiss a girl.

Things have probably changed over the years, though.

CharmingRejector · 2025-05-08T01:26:48+00:00

I recently approached a girl at a bus stop just to ask for directions. I actually needed directions for once, but naturally I picked the hottest girl there. After I was done asking for directions I asked what she was up to, and it turned out we had something very important in common. So we chatted some more, and suddenly she started smiling and giggling like a little girl. NGL it was turning me on, so I took her details.

We were sadly going in different directions tho. This girl was going to freaking Austria lol. But I can always hope that she comes back to my part of the world. Then I packed my bags into the bus, and gave her a wave before heading off. She smiled and winked as I entered my bus. I don't think I've been winked at in ages, but yeah chances are big that I'm gonna keep chatting with her.

Moreover on the bus some other girl I'd chatted up earlier, like a year ago, chatted with me and wanted face time me. To my surprise she wanted to ask how she looked in her skimpy bra and thongs. I mean... I loved it, but so did the rest of the bus lol! Yeah, gonna make sure to pay her a visit pretty soon I think...

So, not sure what experience you want, but this is part of it. I have zero fear of walking up to some girl. And that's because it's no big deal to me. I'm just trying to figure some stuff out, or I'm just being social and checking the vibe. If the vibe is good, I might flirt a little. If the vibe is bad, I'll just bounce or nod and have sympathy.

This weekend I stayed at a nice hotel for a congress. Some important speaker-woman - hot as hell - was going up the elevator. So I made a bet with her: "I bet it's that elevator. If it's not, I'm gonna buy you a coffee." Ofc that elevator didn't come, so we got aboard another and I told her "Drat, looks like I owe you a coffee..." Upon which she smirked and replied "Sorry I only drink tea." She didn't seem that into me, so I simply answered "What a relief! Than I don't have to buy you a coffee."

And that was that. No big deal. No tears. No "woe is me, I got rejected." Just a fun interaction. And that's what you're looking for, no matter if it goes good or bad. It's when you get nervous that women reject you hard and call you a creep. So, make it to as little of a deal as possible, and make sure you're having fun while doing it, and you'll be ok no matter what.

Hope this helps!

Glacier_Sama · 2025-05-03T15:29:30+00:00

Female allow you??? Brotha who is running this world? YOU allow the female to experience breeding with a true alpha male. When she's fucking the right guy, it's something that she can't get ANYWHERE else. Learn your value.

jackthehat6 · 2025-05-03T13:45:13+00:00

It is 100% a numbers game. Nobody can 'seduce' someone in the way it's marketed. We have more proof of this than we'll ever need in the form of inf1eld footage

Paul Janka was a very good looking, tall guy hitting on college chicks mostly. Purists could even argue he didn't even use 'game' (since his 'method' was so direct. Literally 'you're cute! What's your name? Can I get your number?' followed by a date)

ps - body count of around 70 here. I ate (and still eat) a LOT of rejections since i'm nowhere near as good looking as Janka. But through sheere volume I was able to get a good lay count and sleep with lots of pretty girls. 'Game' never ever helped me 'turn' a girl from a no too a yes (e.g 'seduce'), and there's NOTHING i've not read and tested about game

ThatDarnSmell · 2025-05-04T00:47:44+00:00

He was tall and handsome with a shitty personality.

PeterLamb87 · 2025-05-04T23:54:52+00:00

Paul Janka was a G.

"and he doesn't stay for too long to build attraction or anything, most of his interactions last between 2 to 4 minutes max" Why would he? I dont think you can pull women from the street and get physical with her that same moment. Can it happen? I guess, but thats a unicorn interaction.

"o the more you approach the more you will get lucky and has nothing to do with "game" or "seduction"?" Game is a contact sport, is numbers plus intention; You need to hit a lot of people but you also need skill.

"this means the better looking you would be the higher chances you get if it's a number game after all)" No shit, anyone telling you looks dont matter is a crook trying to sell you a course. This doesnt mean you cant pull while being ugly or average, you can, but sometimes you need to stay in ur looks lane.

MichaelScofield68 · 2025-05-06T10:27:33+00:00

I mean you can tell within 30 seconds whether a girl is open to meet you or not, what comes after is just making sure you don't screw up and share basic info about yourself

TripleDigitNomad · 2025-05-07T10:32:38+00:00

Hey man, body count of over 400 here

There are 5 pillars to seduction:

1.) Maximize your attractiveness to increase the amount of women who would even consider you as a sexual partner

2.) Find & approach many women so you have as many options as possible since yes, it is basically a numbers game

3.) Have good online & text game so you can convince them to meet you and/or go on dates with you

4.) Have good in person date game so that you're able to make a good impression on them and convince them to come over to your place

5.) Know how to physically escalate when you have them alone so that you're able to get the lay

If you consistently want to get laid, you need to master all 5

anon1moos · 2025-05-03T14:32:38+00:00

I haven’t watched any of this guy’s content. I don’t know how he’s cutting his infield. If it’s not going well, you should absolutely exit in a couple minutes. If it is going well, I’m guessing the whole approach to go home with me section lasted quite a bit longer than 2-4 min.

Edit: learned from another commenter that he goes for number close. 2-4 min is perfectly reasonable.

Title	"The game"
Author	Slow_Ad9049
Upvotes	17
Comments	39
Date	May 3, 2025 12:22 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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