Cjaylyle Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
377	If every average man dropped out of the dating market it would not affect women one bit. Their dating problems are entirely based on the behaviour of top tier men	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 08:45 AM
330	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 08:53 AM
326	Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/23 03:48 PM
311	The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk away	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/25 10:57 AM
308	CMV : Women are so militant and unforgiving with guys they're dating because they’re almost 100 percent confident “their perfect man” is waiting for them in the future	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/23 06:46 PM
307	So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/22 01:28 PM
282	CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 09:06 AM
243	You need to realise that for women, you need to compete with NO man as well as with the men she is attracted to	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/25 06:02 PM
225	The idea that women will hit the wall and will suddenly need men and give lower SMV guys a chance seems like a bluepill fantasy to me	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/22 11:36 AM
218	Just a personal observation, I’m noticing more and more above average and good looking guys with chubby and overweight or below average girls		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 08:48 PM
214	CMV : As a man the best strategy to achieve success in dating is to approach it as one big joke	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/23 01:04 PM
201	If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the start	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/23 11:46 PM
191	CMV : If you’re the guy she had to lower her “unrealistic” standards for the you’re forever on thin ice	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 11:14 AM
188	EVEN if you could FORCE monogamy and "redistribute" love and relationships, you can't force a woman to genuinely love you and you FEEL the difference	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/22 12:29 PM
184	CMV : Women DO have varied taste, but it’s not anywhere near as unique as they think. Men would do best to adhere to the “fundamentals”	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/23 12:24 PM
174	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 08:28 AM
173	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 12:32 PM
173	Do you think mothers are confused as to why their now grown nice guy son has yet to find a partner?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 06:19 AM
163	Traditional blue pill advice works for attractive people and most women, Redpill advice works for average and above average men, NOTHING works for men below average	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/22 02:04 PM
157	CMV : I’m starting to see the effect of dating app filters translate into the real world	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/23 03:59 PM
157	Sometimes I wonder “just who the hell are these women holding out for??”	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/23 06:37 PM
154	The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss out	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 04:55 PM
154	If she’s into you, it’s painfully obvious. If it’s ambiguous, you’re an option at best whether she’ll admit it or not	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/23 03:43 PM
150	True, there isn't an unlimited amount of attractive men to go around....but there IS unlimited attention and ego boosting stimulus to render an artificisl inflation in girls self percieved value	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/22 12:39 PM
148	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue”	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 10:32 AM
148	CMV : There’s nothing wrong at all with modern dating. Women are just attracted to less men.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/23 10:07 AM
147	Being laid back and uninvested is not what makes men attractive, women are attracted to men who act like that because those men are already attractive	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/24 05:39 AM
145	A woman’s autonomy and freedom over who she lets put their sex organ inside her sex organ trumps men’s feelings and mental well being EVERY SINGLE TIME	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/23 05:12 PM
145	If a woman has to lower her standards for you to have a shot with her, the relationship you’ll have with her will be shaky at best	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/22 12:31 PM
144	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 02:40 PM
143	It’s male projection that women will at least EVENTUALLY want to settle down with an Average Adam eventually. No relationship IS better than a bad or monotonous relationship, this cannot be stressed enough	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/22 12:13 PM
141	True or false, women on this sub are more likely NOT representative of the majority of the population but the men on here ARE	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/22 11:04 AM
139	Discussion : Am I wrong in saying I’m noticing more attractive men settling for less attractive women these days?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/23 08:57 PM
134	The orgasm gap is because women genuinely need fantasy level attraction towards the man they’re having sex with and physical stimulation	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/25 08:46 AM
131	Lonely single men who get little to no sexual attention project their loneliness onto women about to hit the mythical wall	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 12:14 PM
130	Do you think in the next couple of decades MAINSTREAM discourse will be "don't encourage average/below average men to expect or seek sex, love and relationships"?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/22 03:32 PM
128	CMV : Most women don’t think they’re deserving of a top men. But almost none would admit to themselves they deserve average or below….	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 10:45 AM
127	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 12:40 PM
127	Women that hit thirty are nowhere near changing their behaviour in this day and age. They act just like early twenties	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 01:36 PM
126	I’m surprised they allow purge week on the sub when this week shows how unregulated red pill ideas absolutely stomp all over the blue pill		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/23 05:51 PM
123	CMV : Men assume a woman to be attractive, and are more forgiving of negative traits. Women assume men to be unattractive and try and find the cracks between all the positive traits	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/23 04:17 AM
121	CMV : Plenty of average looking young men are not in relationships, young women just perceive above average men with women as average	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/23 11:45 AM
120	Women and men behave exactly the same in dating, it’s just women get more opportunity to act cold and selfish so it’s thought to be “their nature”	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 09:07 AM
119	Cheating and casual sex is way more common than you realise, if you deny it then you’re simply just naive or wilfully ignorant	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 03:54 PM
116	What’s the most disheartening thing you’ve seen in your local dating market	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/22 02:55 PM
115	Debating with people who literally deny the “harsh” realities of behaviour that TRP let’s men know about is a waste of your time	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/22 09:48 AM
112	Love and sex is not a right	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 02:23 PM
107	CMV : The reason you think lots of average men are in relationships when actually they’re not	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 09:28 PM
107	There’s a relationship drought for dating age people but half of us are in denial about it and don’t think there’s a problem	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 10:52 AM
103	CMV : For a woman to want to commit most of her mortal life to a man and grant him exclusive access, he SHOULD be pretty impressive, not just a guy who exists	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/23 03:11 PM
102	Your mother didn’t “lie” to you. Women didn’t lie to you. They genuinely thought they were telling you the truth….and that most girls were not they them	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/22 02:01 PM
102	Discussion : AmI the only one who notices women hide their partner on social media more than men?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/23 11:06 AM
96	CMV : A lot of very attractive girls I’ve noticed just have very one dimensional tall tattooed bearded boyfriends	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/23 03:09 PM
95	CMV : To be an attractive man physically is rarer than to be an attractive woman because its how rare the traits are that makes them attractive in a man	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/23 04:10 PM
93	CMV : young men today should spare themselves torment by not getting emotionally invested in one day becoming a father	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/23 11:08 AM
93	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 11:57 AM
93	A womans lack of awareness of what actually attracts her can lead to self sabotage of a relationship	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/22 02:48 PM
89	It doesn’t matter the level of attractiveness of a woman, they ALL still only find attractive men attractive	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/22 10:27 AM
89	CMv : Modern times are not raising women’s standards, it’s revealing standards that were always there	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/23 11:08 AM
89	Not tonight honey…	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/23 05:33 PM
89	CMV : You could make the most academically in depth and heartfelt argument in the world about mens lack of sex and relationships, but it doesn’t override needing a WILLING woman to give that to them	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/23 03:11 PM
86	CMV : Women don’t like men who have to approach because the men they want are the sort of guys who don’t have to approach	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 02:54 PM
83	CMV : A lot of men feel like a date went really well when it didn’t. They made a friend.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 11:56 AM
82	Discussion : My theory as to why dating on apps is so hard	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/23 11:30 AM
82	The way men get porn brain, can women get “attractive guy they had sex with” brain when it comes to sex with future partners?	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/23 04:54 PM
80	The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exception	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 11:57 AM
77	CMV: All women will aim for the absolute highest value male within reach first, then work their way down. Men don’t do this.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 12:00 PM
77	What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONE		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/22 04:33 PM
74	CMV : I feel a lot of posters still envision the “average” couple as some weird “wall mart” 35 year old man and woman who walked out of a 90’s time capsule	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/23 01:30 PM
74	CMV : Men and women both try and shame each other in order to discourage them from pursuing their own sexual interests	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/23 08:35 PM
72	CMV Im going to fully put it out there and say for people below thirty you DONT see many average couples out in the real world any more	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/23 06:30 PM
71	CMV : women genuinely want attention and affection from their man, and attention and affection genuinely causes attraction towards that man to drop	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 09:19 PM
70	The tinder cycle for the average man and woman and why you shouldn't get frustrated or take it personally.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/22 11:33 AM
70	CMV : Women underestimate the sheer effort and time towards looking like a big muscular gym bro, which is why they say they don’t like gym/muscular guys	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/23 12:27 PM
69	Women are not attracted to being treated badly. They are treated badly by men they are attracted to. Treating them badly as a low value man is not effective	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 03:57 PM
67	If men are much stronger biologically, why is it a stretch to think women are more attractive?	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/22 11:10 AM
66	CMV : Muscle is cheap, and in 2023 women value genuinely rare immutable traits, such as height and face	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 12:09 PM
65	Q4A : Do you think parents are confused as to why their perfectly normal son hasn’t found a partner in their late twenties and early thirties?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 12:08 PM
64	Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starving	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/23 07:58 PM
61	Average women who somehow scored a very attractive man a few years earlier who left them and now they won’t lower their standards	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/22 01:18 PM
61	“I see average couples everywhere” Okay, what exactly do YOU think think an “average” couple look like?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/23 10:40 AM
60	Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive men	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 08:11 AM
60	Have you ever been interested in somebody you thought was well within your league and then they soon partner up with an objectively way more attractive person leaving you massively disheartened?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/22 03:52 PM
60	CMV : Attracting women is like getting a job. Not ALL companies are the same or value the same thing, but most are the same.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/23 02:07 PM
59	CMV : A big cause of confusion is that the male “average” is statistically above average, but women understandably perceive this above average guy as average	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/23 10:56 AM
59	Is your “real world outside” different to the real world of others?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/22 12:04 PM
59	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 12:34 PM
59	CMV : Even if women are more attractive in their 20’s, the attractive ones don’t want you now and definitely won’t want you in your 30’s	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/23 12:47 PM
57	Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than men	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/25 02:57 PM
56	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 04:05 PM
55	As a man, if a quality you have is easy to have, it’s probably unattractive	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/22 11:12 AM
54	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 11:43 AM
54	CMV : Refusing to change to attract women out of some sort of principle is only holding you back and not proving a thing to anybody	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 03:30 PM
54	Discussion : Will modern life get so comfortable for women that literally most choose to stay single?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 11:04 AM
53	CMV : A woman can almost ALWAYS find a better option within a couple of months of trying, so why would they settle?	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/23 12:31 PM
53	Why is generalization treated as a bad thing, when it's the most efficient way to approach the problem of dating?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/22 12:20 AM
52	If you somehow managed to convince women to universally lower their standards you’d just have much more competition and the relationship would be awful	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/25 11:42 AM
52	Cmv : I now believe women are actually right. Maybe mens personalities are a bigger problem than I believed	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/23 02:26 PM
51	Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite that	Question for BluePill	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/22 10:27 PM
51	Does a man who gives all the signs of looking for a relationship indicate a scarcity mindset?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/22 12:53 PM
50	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 01:28 PM
49	You’d be pretty guarded and picky too if everyone from the opposite sex who approached you was trying to penetrate you	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 08:53 PM
49	Is it fair to be in a relationship with somebody you don't want sexually or are attracted to?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/22 06:14 PM
49	So I’m supposed to believe it’s less naive, reflects more experience, and more maturity, to believe a MORE sugar coated and ideological version of reality?	Question for BluePill	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 09:07 AM
47	CMV : “Looks don’t matter” is not a common theme in culture. It’s the opposite.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/23 11:25 AM
46	CMV : Every single dating and relationship issue come down to lack of attraction	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/23 02:52 PM
46	CMV : The human brain doesn’t care about statistics, it perceives “average” as what’s physiologically possible, not numerical distribution	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/23 04:42 PM
46	CMV : I think the problem is that whilst people realize they are not special or top 1 percent, deep down, id say over 90 percent of people believe they are AT LEAST in the top 50 percent in some way	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 02:41 PM
45	Men want the most sexual partners possible and women want the best. That's where our problems come from.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/22 07:14 PM
45	Those who don’t agree with the red pill. What advice that isn’t red pilled would you give to those who struggle with dating?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 06:13 PM
44	CMV : Stoicism is definitely overrated in regards to success with women	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 04:40 PM
43	Do women think they see “lots of average men” with girlfriends, because they view all the above average men with girlfriends as average or below?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 12:44 PM
43	Why social media and dating apps have destroyed dating for average men and wreck the mental health of average women	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 11:22 AM
43	The same way we are slowly starting to change the expectation of young people and home ownership, should and will the expectations of the average man to find a relationship and have kids be tempered and brought up to date with modern realities?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/22 05:34 PM
42	CMV : Women have become introspective about their dating dynamics with men, but ironically over the wrong thing	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 03:35 PM
42	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 07:53 PM
42	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive.	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 04:01 PM
42	CMV : As an average man comparison to exes and potential partners will always lead to the end of your relationship or ruin its quality	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 09:38 AM
41	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals.	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 11:23 AM
40	Ppd posters are outliers, their answers are pretty much redundant at best and by the numbers virtue signalling at worst	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/22 05:01 PM
39	It’s 2024. “Go to the gym” and “be confident and maintain frame” is the new “buy her flowers and hold open doors”	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/24 05:02 PM
39	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 11:38 AM
39	Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good looking	Question For Women	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/23 03:05 PM
37	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves.	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 12:31 PM
37	CMV : I believe as a man you have two options. Accept and prepare for a life alone or go all in on raising your SMV		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/23 02:27 PM
36	If familiarity kills attraction, do ALL LTR's EVENTUALLY become void of attraction?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/22 06:17 PM
36	CMV : I have never seen a young woman dissatisfied in a relationship with a traditionally attractive man	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/23 03:05 PM
35	There is no difference in how attraction works between the sex's	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/22 09:07 PM
35	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 09:54 AM
34	CMV : if you do not maximise your looks potential close to the limit you should not complain about dating	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 11:20 PM
34	Yes he may be a great guy who will provide and care and nurture, but if having sex with him is literally a painful and repulsive ordeal HOW is that ever going to work?	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/23 06:32 PM
34	CMV : You may as well just be yourself because women will all interpret your personality differently	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/23 01:56 PM
34	CMV : why can’t it be true that far less men are objectively attractive than women?	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/23 04:42 PM
34	People here try to answer questions rationally, engaging their brain and taking pause whilst also considering morality. The discrepancy is that attraction is irrational, emotional and reactionary	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/22 12:24 PM
33	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 09:36 AM
33	The problem with "game" and fake it until you make it is it's essentially manipulation, not genuine attraction, which can only last so long	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/22 03:02 PM
32	CMV : A lot of posters here deal in caricatures, as if human subtlety is simply not comprehend-able. I think people totally miss these subtleties in real life.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/23 11:50 PM
31	A woman realising she’s average or below does not suddenly mean an average or below man can arouse her		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/22 09:23 PM
31	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 10:44 AM
30	You can be absolutely mindless and spout buzzwords but it’s actually hollow virtue signalling that means nothing. Tough, critical and practical thought isn’t always pretty, nice or fair and doesn’t stroke your ego by making you sound nice	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/22 12:19 PM
27	Discussion : I’m starting to see the first wave of attractive hit forty voluntarily single	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/23 10:46 AM
27	Regarding the 80/20 rule. I personally don’t see more than 1 in 5 young men walking around in relationships	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/24 08:26 AM
26	Why should immuteable traits in a man be given a free pass just because they're immutable?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 07:22 AM
26	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men.	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:22 PM
26	CMV : Men put women on a pedestal depending on their relationship with adult women as a child	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 01:39 PM
25	CMV : Beauty is relative not subjective, and now we are all compared to the images on our phones	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/23 12:18 PM
25	Is the SMV arms race accelerating the sexlessness of average men?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/22 06:22 PM
24	Women don’t care if you can best somebody up or are trained in MMA etc, they just want somebody who looks tough and strong		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/22 06:29 PM
24	CMV : its much easier for women to price themselves out of the smv than it is for them to find a genuine HMV who matches them	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/23 12:41 PM
24	Women are not a foundation or an organisation or a state. They are not withholding the resource of sex from you. Its down on you.	PURGE WEEK	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/23 02:33 PM
23	Low skilled under qualified workers settle for and accept low paying unenjoyable jobs because they have to, but they still don’t like going to work. It’s the same with partners.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/22 08:50 AM
23	The 80/20 rule is real, but not the one you think….	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/22 09:56 AM
23	Discussion : Are you being settled for or a beta bux if you managed to attract a girl primarily because of your personality and chemistry?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/23 02:24 PM
23	If women cannot be aroused by men with traits beyond their control, which is deemed unfair, then what is the solution?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/22 11:52 PM
22	Why do people say Tinder doesn’t work? It’s just an interface that mirrors real life dating preferences	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 03:38 PM
22	Q4W : Why is a guy being short not unattractive but a guy being insecure about being short unattractive?	Question For Women	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 05:30 AM
22	CMV: Most red pilled posters on here are not red pilled. They are trying to use red pill for blue pill goals they’ll never achieve	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 10:57 AM
22	Have you ever been having sex with a long term partner and suddenly become aware they’re not enjoying it and having “maintenance” sex with you aka don’t want you sexually anymore?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 11:35 AM
21	If your partner is an adult and doesn’t live in their head in the clouds then they’ll know that your relationship can, will and should end if they’re not making you happy and vice versa		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/22 01:24 PM
21	Straight men, when is it OK for gay men to cold approach you?	Question For Men	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/22 08:27 PM
21	Do people confuse anxiety for attraction?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/22 09:28 AM
20	I’ve noticed a lot of you mistake comfort and security for attraction. Maybe you’ve only ever felt those things and don’t know what lust is yet	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/23 02:22 PM
20	Are we as men drivven to success by sex alone? How many of you actually care about being successful if youre alone...		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/22 10:26 AM
20	To love somebody is to feel and believe they are special and one of if not the best people you know. It’s not to be done for the sake of it. It’s not something easily given and not everybody should be loved by another for the sake of fairness of “empathy” to the loveless	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/22 04:33 AM
19	CMV : if you offered this - Stability, kindness, consistency, no drama, aka a steady healthy calm relationship that “ends” your story, most would say no	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/23 10:43 AM
19	I think some people don’t realize they don’t love their partner until they end the relationship and experience somebody they truly desire	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 12:31 PM
18	Discussion : Whats the bigger problem, obviously unattractive guys struggling or above average guys now struggling as much as below average guys?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/23 02:25 PM
17	How do you think things would be framed socially and culturally if the dating dynamic between men and women was totally reversed		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/22 07:00 PM
16	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious.	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 03:52 PM
16	When people say they're not monogamous, what do they mean?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/22 06:42 PM
16	At what point did society falsely combine sex and love with morality and quality of character?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/23 04:16 PM
15	Women who say Chad isn’t their type. Yes he is lol, you just over low very minor and superficial differences.		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/23 03:38 PM
15	CMV : Game is just harnessing the anxiety of insecure women to make them chase your for validation for a bit	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/23 12:16 PM
15	Younger generations feel entitled to what their parents took for granted when it comes to relationships, much like buying a house, and they need to lower expectations	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 08:53 PM
15	TRP basically says we're all not as "good" or "as special" as we'd like to think we are.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/22 07:34 PM
14	Instead of me or another posting stating what the average guy is, what do you think the average guy is, and what does he have to offer what you think the average girl is		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/22 11:47 AM
14	Q4W : Why would you be attracted to a physically unattractive man?	Question For Women	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/23 03:14 PM
14	CMV : Statistical average doesn’t matter one bit, our brains only register “potential” average. Most people are below that average.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 05:08 PM
13	The only metric for your level of attractiveness is the results you’re getting. How you rate yourself, or others, or who you deem your level means absolutely nothing.	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 10:39 AM
12	Is it possible to become desensitised to attractive people in real life and dating?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/22 02:44 PM
12	Question for Redpill : Why do you care that women and society lied to you?	Question For Red Pill	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/23 03:28 PM
11	A man needs above average sexually dymorphic qualities to be attractive, women don't		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 04:10 PM
11	Why do women virtue signal on this sub?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/22 11:49 PM
11	Arrested development has led to grown adults STILL looking outwardly to others for their loneliness. It’s ENTIRELY down on YOU to fix it.	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/25 12:06 PM
11	Discussion : Do you still believe you’re going to find a partner you’re attracted to without any effort to change or improve?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 11:24 AM
11	To love and be loved and to make love is one of life’s greatest pleasures. Why do you think achieving that shouldn’t be very hard?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/22 02:38 PM
10	CMV : A lot of women on HERE seem to mistake comfort for attraction. Attraction is actually uncomfortable	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/23 06:15 PM
10	Discussion : what do you think of the meme “Do I actually find him attractive or is he just tall?”	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 12:19 PM
10	You have to have an unfulfilling life if you go into a relationship NOT prioritising sex	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/23 05:02 PM
9	Discussion : Let’s have some positivity :-) How many times have you shown your woman emotions and been vulnerable and it’s made her more attracted to you?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/23 12:22 PM
9	Do women think they're with their partner mostly for his personality because they actually UNDERRATE their own partners attractiveness?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/22 02:20 PM
9	CMV : Women need to follow the example that you can wait longer now to settle than ever as to avoid failed relationships with men they don’t love	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/23 11:58 AM
9	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 01:32 PM
8	Q4W : On the back of my “may as well just be yourself” post. What personality type do you find attractive?	Question For Women	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/23 01:21 AM
8	Before the online generation, pre 90’s, did most relationships “moms and dads” as it were, actually desire each other?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/23 07:04 PM
7	Using a fictional example you can all relate to, let me show you the difference between perfectly alpha, way too beta, too alpha and slightly too beta to be attractive. It’s. A fine balance.		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/22 01:33 AM
7	Society cannot fix dating. Any fix massively impedes the human right to not be touched by somebody you don’t want touching you intimately.	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 11:14 AM
6	Have you ever been fallen out of love with? If so did you see the signs, what did you learn from it?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 10:30 PM
5	Question for all : Has anyone ever somehow gotten worse at dating than they used to be?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 02:32 PM
5	The same instinct and drive that makes men want to sleep with women is the same instinct and drive than makes women be extremely selective	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 10:04 AM
5	What arouses you about your partner?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/22 12:06 PM
4	CMV : women treat casual sex with top men the way men treat dinner dates with attractive women	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 09:33 AM
4	Unless you are a minor celebrity, its over		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/20 12:15 AM
3	Discussion : Have you ever been caught by an unexplainable long dry spell despite not changing or doing anything different?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/23 05:36 PM
3	Do you believe a woman should compensate you with affection just because you were dealt a bad situation or bad genetics?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/23 10:45 AM
3	Do you think things will get harder for men? If show should men struggling now begin to be at peace that they will PROBABLY be alone forever?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/22 11:23 AM
3	How do you feel when men on here treat your sexual autonomy and freedom of choice like an annoying barrier to what they feel entitled to?	Question For Women	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 05:36 AM
3	Discussion : As a 32 year old man, the thought of touching a girl younger than 25 is not a good one	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/23 03:31 PM
3	If average women have nothing or very little to offer, why do you, the "average man" even want to be with them?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/22 02:38 PM
3	Why are some men so desperate to be in monogamous relationships anyway, it really isn’t that great	PURGE WEEK	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/23 05:35 PM
2	Discussion : Why shouldn’t there be “losers” in the dating market? Why is it wrong a lot of men will lose out?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 05:05 PM
2	Women, are there "lots of average looking guys in relationships" or are they good looking and YOU see them as average because you find most men unattractive?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/22 12:08 PM
2	Am I jaded or am I literally looking at every couple over 30 and seeing betabux		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/23 09:21 PM
2	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive?	Question for RedPill	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 11:54 AM
2	If you are a man and you want sex and relationships but aren’t able to get them, you have no right saying women’s standards are unrealistic		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/23 04:37 PM
1	CMV : You can only be attracted and aroused to biological aspects of a human being, not abstract qualities such as wealth and career	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/22 08:49 AM
1	Has anyone noticed how the narrative has changed from “that’s not how it is” to “duh, that’s obvious if you’re not socially inept and considered basic common sense dating advice”		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 11:50 AM
1	Men, you know when you hit 30, you'll find 30 year old women attractive, right?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/22 10:29 AM
1	A woman’s autonomy over who she lets out their sex organ into her sex organ trumps men’s feelings and mental well being EVERY SINGLE TIME		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/23 05:08 PM
1	If women have sex transactional or validation sex, is the validation sex only to validate their ability to wield the power of transactional sex?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 09:27 AM
1	Is it “who you are” or just symptoms of a learning disability?	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/23 03:51 PM
1	Question for everyone : How can you sleep at night knowing you “plugged into” somebody else’s money via marriage or a partnership		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/23 11:57 AM
1	Interesting article about men under 5 foot 10		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/22 05:37 PM
1	Im actually going to fully put it out there and say for people below thirty you DONT see many “average” couples out in the real world any more.		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/23 06:19 PM
1	Is "average" the man whose attractiveness is between all men who exist currently, or the men whose attractiveness is between gross and what's POTENTIALLY the hottest man alive?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/22 03:00 PM
1	Discussion : Do you think most men end up with their physical equivalent?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/23 11:51 AM
1	Asking women to lower their standards is like asking gay people to be straight. It doesn't work like that.	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/20 10:40 AM
1	Discussion. You being rejected is a product of lifted oppression, so it should be seen as a good thing that a lot of men are “missing out” now	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/23 02:10 PM
1	The reality is you need to just actually BE attractive and charming to get what matters (casual sex)	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/20 12:26 PM
1	The reason average men struggle to physically attract girls is because its only exceptional traits that even begin to arouse a woman, let alone not repulse them		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/22 01:01 PM
1	What’s a bigger cause of existential dread, not being able to achieve procreation or knowing your father probably wouldn’t have secured your mother had he been born now?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/22 10:07 AM
1	Discussion : Women are not complicated in their attraction, just indulge in your NATURAL masculine behaviour and they’ll be drawn to it	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/23 02:16 PM
1	Do people confuse anxiety for attraction?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/22 04:54 PM
1	The reason women find less men attractive is because they’re monogamous. Men find more women attractive because they are polyamorous. Scarcity makes men convinced they “just want one nice girl” not nature		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/23 12:47 PM
1	Whats the most extreme example of the WORST side of female or male nature?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/22 11:23 PM
1	Why would you pick a very "confident" but physically unremarkable man over a (normal level of confidence) man you find physically attractive?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/22 11:16 AM
1	Men who struggle with dating, are your "amazing" qualities actually just a product of a scarcity mindset, and you'd behave the exact same way as the attractive men you criticize if you had options?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/22 11:34 AM
0	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 04:26 PM
0	CMV : You being unattractive is literally only your fault	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/23 08:32 AM
0	Women are attracted to the same things in men as men are to in women, there's just less physically attractive men so the emphasis seems to be on the other qualities	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/22 02:04 PM
0	Question for women. In my given example of a man with a list of traits, do you find the traits attractive, and if not why and what opposing traits would you prefer?	Question For Women	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/22 04:09 PM
0	Men don’t love romantically either, they’re just coming from a place of scarcity	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/24 12:41 PM
0	CMV : personality is just as shallow a reason to be with somebody as looks	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/23 03:02 PM
0	CMV : women don’t have an easier experience dating. It’s just as hard. But that’s because they’re playing in a higher league.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/23 03:22 PM
0	If you are fine driving a used car you should be fine with having a relationship who is settling with you	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/24 09:55 AM
0	We have affirmative action, disability laws and welfare for the disadvantaged and oppressed in employment. WHY nothing similar in dating?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/22 09:52 AM
0	A normal 30 plus male looks at a 21 and below year old woman and sees a very young girl he wants to protect, almost like a child or a younger sister		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/22 12:09 PM
0	Scenario. Imagine you’re with your EX boyfriend, and your CURRENT boyfriend comes into your life at work or a social event etc. Now what do you do?	Question For Women	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/23 10:36 AM
0	CMV : Its the badness in and of itself that women find attractive in badboys, not the strength and confidence it represents	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/23 01:55 PM
0	CMV : women do not prefer bad men. They prefer strong men. I’ll prove it with one example.	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 07:29 PM
0	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 01:58 PM
0	If you got a woman to have sex with you because you passed a few shit tests then her attraction will be fleeting and weak and not last	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/24 10:36 AM
0	Adult male virgins, if somebody confirmed your fear you will stay a virgin and single forever, how would you feel?		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/22 03:01 PM
0	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”.	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 01:38 PM
0	Unless you are essentially a minor celebrity, it's over		Cjaylyle	/r/askTRP	02/05/20 12:13 AM
0	Attractiveness doesn’t exist in a vacuum. So if most men are unattractive to most women then most men ARE below average	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/22 02:49 PM
0	A vast majority of behaviours that give women the ick are things men would’t be doing if they did the basic work on themselves	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 01:23 PM
0	Unless you are essentially a minor celebrity, it's over		Cjaylyle	/r/askTRP	02/05/20 12:14 AM
0	Unless you are essentially a minor celebrity, its over		Cjaylyle	/r/askTRP	02/05/20 12:15 AM
0	Men who act holier than thou when it comes to women’s selectivity. You’d act exactly the same in their shoes	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 02:08 PM
0	It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 03:26 PM
0	CMV : Most “icks” women feel are justified as they are symptomatic of a weakness and femininity	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 03:43 PM
0	Discussion : How about a little fun? What’s your favourite kiss scene in a film?	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:30 PM
0	CMV : If a man commits it subconsciously communicates to her that you believe she’s the best you can get	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 11:22 PM
0	If you were a GENUINELY nice, good guy with strong character and maturity - You’d just let being rejected slide and be happy for people		Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 05:10 PM
0	You can’t love her that much if you think she should be happy with unremarkable and average (you)	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/22 01:52 PM
0	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 03:40 PM
0	CMV : Being the guy who shes obsessed with because you treat her as disposable ALWAYS comes with the double edge sword of you don’t actually want her, despite her being “hot”	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/23 12:07 AM
0	CMV : Mating for genetic strength and rearing the child as a tribe is the most natural human state and we’re returning to it	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 04:20 PM
0	CMV : We can’t redistribute love and desire but we can destigmatize and accept AF/BB as the norm and embrace it	CMV	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/23 02:04 PM
0	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves	Debate	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 03:28 PM
0	Discussion : Women looking to settle down in their late 20’s and early 30’s, if you want him man do, and if he’s still single it’s because he has lots of options AND is experienced	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 10:21 AM
0	Discussion : women looking to settle down, if YOU want him then it means MANY others do, and if he’s still single it’s because he has lots of options and experience of the negative side of being with a woman	Discussion	Cjaylyle	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/23 10:35 AM

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1	Love and sex is not a right Implying that being against a woman being forced to have sex is EVER justified?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 11:49 PM
1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out It has nothing to do with fat acceptance movement Men who like fat women now would like fat women back then Do you find fat women attractive now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 06:39 PM
1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Not good	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 06:38 PM
2	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out How were your TV shows and media altered? I’m sorry is Scarlett Johansson not the highest grossing actor of literally all time now? Is Sydney Sweeny not all over the zeitgeist? Was Ana De Amas not all over the No Time To Die marketing in a very revealing dress? What are you on about, media portrays traditionally attractive women as the epitome of female form CONSTANTLY	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 05:36 PM
0	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out I know many amazing short men, some people find shortness unattractive, some don’t. That’s all there is to it	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 05:33 PM
2	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Ok cool, have at it	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 05:32 PM
1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out I did not say that at all. I categorically did not say that. I said I would sooner that than a woman forced to have sex with him There’s a massive difference. Do you not agree or do you think she should be forced?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 05:32 PM
6	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out If you’re totally excluded socially it’s probably because you’re acting in a way that warrants being avoided, even if you don’t realise it	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 05:30 PM
3	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Free to pursue happiness yes of course Be given sex? No	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 05:29 PM
1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out What shit have I said that’s “best the shit out of you” worthy? Why don’t I deserve protection? Because I don’t think society should force a woman to have sex with you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 05:28 PM
–	Love and sex is not a right What do you even mean	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 03:59 PM
–	Love and sex is not a right Nope	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 03:57 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right Yes correct	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 03:57 PM
–	Love and sex is not a right Judge away, I don’t care And no checking needed	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 03:57 PM
–	Love and sex is not a right Literally couldn’t care less about judgement	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 03:56 PM
–	Love and sex is not a right I don’t want them to kill themselves Where have I said that	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 03:55 PM
–	Love and sex is not a right Well not really I don’t WANT men to do that, but if the choice is between that and forced rape then yeah, definitely. I’d argue if you don’t agree with me then you’re fucked up	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 03:54 PM
–	Love and sex is not a right Literally are owed safety from anybody, basic law enforcement	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 03:53 PM
2	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out In my last thread from yesterday theres a whole thread of debate between me and a guy about it	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 03:50 PM
2	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out I’d literally say the same thing to these men who believe it. Society doesn’t owe you vagina as a treat for existing and being self functional	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 02:04 PM
0	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out It’s not a fetishisation if short men aren’t attractive	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 01:57 PM
1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Literally check this post somebody directly says it	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 01:31 PM
4	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Most millionaire men are married yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 01:24 PM
-1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out My question is even if you could, why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 01:23 PM
1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out They’re not different though Margot Robbie portrayed a sex icon from 60 years prior because she like Tate were both similarly attractive	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 01:22 PM
1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out What kind of ad campaigns would achieve this	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 01:18 PM
2	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Unless you are literally a millionaire the state is probably mostly supporting YOU more than you are women lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 12:17 PM
1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Men were less feminine, if they existed back then they would have women who found them attractive Same as men from other countries Women haven’t been moulded from actively find them unattractive to finding them attractive If you’re five foot nine narrow shouldered white timothy from next door culture isn’t going to swing women’s attraction your way ever	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 12:11 PM
5	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out How are they punished	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 12:09 PM
5	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out DO they owe somebody sex and love?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 12:08 PM
1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Yes as I say in my OP	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 12:06 PM
0	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out No they wouldn’t and if they did it would be so barely over the threshold it wouldn’t stick for long You can’t show me examples of those working ever	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 11:59 AM
6	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Yes don’t be nasty to people I agree I do think a lot of men aren’t aware of how inappropriate they’re being though a lot of the time	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 11:58 AM
2	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Yeah exactly “bring back patriarchy” lol cool guy	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 11:57 AM
-1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Well exactly I’m saying it wouldn’t work	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 11:51 AM
3	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out There’s a reason an awful lot of our parents are divorced or had less than happy relationships And why do women NEED to show sympathy for the fact more men want to fuck them than they want to fuck men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 11:50 AM
6	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out No that’s my point they got them years ago too	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 11:48 AM
-1	You cannot tweak culture and society a little bit and suddenly the dating market is balanced out Just incredibly patronising of women like they are some kinda hive mind drone who can be manipulated into wanting to fuck you	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 11:48 AM
1	Love and sex is not a right So you’ve failed at your incredibly weak premise of “men have dating hard because of culture and so culture needs to change so that men can have sex because they’re owed it for doing their jobs” (despite the fact that the average man is propped up by society) and in your outrage have called me a troll and gone through my post history accusing me of being blackpill (even though I’m not) My brother in Christ, you’re the one who thinks women are just some THING who need to be manipulated by alterin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 09:54 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right So basically you’re just mad	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 09:40 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right More so men won't care to participate in a society where they don't have access to sex, love, and a family. Ok? Their choice. They aren’t owed it. I do think I get it now. You just hate men, right? What because I don’t think they are owed sex as a carrot to get them off the xbox and into work??? That's why you reject the premise of the subreddit. That's why you're here. It's just to troll. Makes sense, I guess. You got me, I'll admit. Ad hominem because your incredibly poor overthought argument …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 09:08 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right Yes but your entire argument rests on “dating is harder for men now and they’re owed vagina as a treat otherwise they’ll drop out of society” So it really does just come down to “sex or I’m not playing anymore” To which I say, no, you’re not owed vagina as a treat for being a very basic functioning adult	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 08:50 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right Ok but if you are a woman and somehow get put in front of a man on the “he needs help getting sex” scheme then lemmi tell ya….you’re drying up	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 08:38 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right i think you're making pretty outrageous claims here. well not really. Society doesn’t owe men sex for doing the basics, not outrageous essentially you're saying beauty standards don't exist. WHAT have beauty standards got to do with anything. or that culture has no influence upon love, sex, and family life. When did I say that. Or are you HONESTLY trying to say that society should somehow influence its own women to give men sex as a little treat for existing as part of a social contract? You can…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 08:37 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right You’ve literally done it again. You’ve gone on a big mental gymnastics rant about “extended societal contracts” and culture etc etc and “what if everyone hated cops” lol and how “culture influences men to work with the hope of getting laid” Well society doesn’t owe you vagina as a treat whether culture made you think it did or not. Cos it doesn’t. You can, and this may blow your mind, quite RIGHTLY produce and provide NOTHING to society and be attractive enough to someone for them to give you he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 08:20 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right Its not coercion or pressuring someone to set a boundry and walk away if its not met At WORSE the other person is free of you if you are being coercive or manipulative	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 08:12 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right It’s not true though You exist in society and you engage as much as you want You are rewarded by “society” (a woman) with sex because she feels you are somebody she wants to have sex with and maybe somebody she wants to love. Society doesn’t have sex with you. An individual does. What any given individual owes you really has nothing to do with society. You doing the basics to exist and pay your way does not mean the social contract means you get sex for that. You get sex for invoking that feelin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 08:00 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right I think a lot of men on here don’t realise that what they’re doing is arguing from a place of frustrated entitlement under the deluded guise of moral and philosophical stances they claim are to the benefit of society when actually they’re just angry at women for not wanting to fuck them and think women and society simply should just change to appease them. And a societal structure where men thrive? How do they NOT have that? Or is your argument that the patriarchy has been slowly stripped away a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 07:48 PM
–	Experience in bed is a downside for men, not an upside She needs to get mentally aroused by you That’s it. You just need to appease what arouses her by your behaviour and who you are. There’s an orgasm gap because men cum to a feeling whereas women come to a fantasy and most men are nowhere near worth fantasising about	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 07:42 PM
2	Love and sex is not a right Well not really I humoured you with the last one and replied to your paragraphs and your argument is literally just “If you get paid to work then society owes you something and therefore social contract surely owes you love and sex for contributing to society” No. They don’t. Love and sex is a thing you may or may not experience based on somebody else feeling that for you. That’s it. No paygrades involved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 07:39 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right Taking the L i see	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 07:30 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right Well….yeah…if you’re sexual needs are not being met you definitely can leave your partner because of that… That’s not even controversial lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 07:29 PM
0	Love and sex is not a right Who is going to want to fuck somebody who society is helping get fucked? Sex and love is something somebody wants to do with you because they feel the desire Society can’t negotiate attraction for you And it’s not a need, monks and nuns exist	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 07:14 PM
4	Love and sex is not a right Social contract does not owe you vagina for simply working and paying your way dude, sex and love is something you may experience based on if somebody else shares it with you You’re hamstering something very simple out of frustration	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 07:12 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right You’re not good at taking L’s I see. You basically ignored my comment and went about your point. You know who does those things? People with privilege. You just proved my point again that you need to check your privilege. What L? I don’t need to check my privilege, at all. I don’t know why you think you need to do it for me when it’s obvious you need to do it for yourself. What does this even mean Everyone knows love and sex is not a right but you’re the only one who’s screaming about it while y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 07:05 PM
4	Love and sex is not a right “Receive nothing in return” You get paid….that’s your employment contract You get infrastructure and protection and whatever employment benefits are agreed in your contract You’re not getting nothing in return, and you CERTAINLY are not owed vagina	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 06:47 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right Ye?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 06:45 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right Well not really…..you’re saying “check” it I’m saying there’s no need, why? Because it’s literally just myself and any voluntary sexual or emotional dynamic ai have with somebody It has nothing to do with you. You are not being deprived by my relationship, and your lack of it is not my fault….my own consensual relationships are none of your business and I don’t have to check anything in regards to you What do you even think you mean by “check”	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 06:30 PM
2	Love and sex is not a right What incentive does a man have to pay taxes or participate in polite society then? We all accept a sort of social contract between each other that helps define our culture and society itself. A minority but significant percentage of men, as they age, lose hope in ever having regular sex, finding love, or starting a family. This results in them opting out of society in various ways: deaths of despair, crime, becoming a hermit, or violence among other things. Ok, that’s entirely their choice to gi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 06:26 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right Well not really You’ve types out a lot of words, but all of it is rebuttable with “vagina isn’t a treat for simply existing” That’s literally all there is to it	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 06:03 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right So what are you saying	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 06:02 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right Its tough because there’s something inherently unattractive about needing help to find someone, so using those platforms actually goes against you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 06:01 PM
0	Love and sex is not a right There’s no “checking” needed If somebody voluntarily chooses to love and have sex with me, it has absolutely nothing to do with you and how you feel about it and so does not need checking. Anybody outside of who my or anyone else's consensual sexual and emotional relationships are irrelevant to the existence of those relationships and sexual acts So as I said. No checking needed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:52 PM
2	Love and sex is not a right I expect what, your comment is not coherent	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:50 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right I am literally debating with you, but your replies are mostly mental gymnastics to frame your frustration and “toys out the pram” mentality about access to womens vaginas in exchange for your own basic functioning as an adult as some kinda argument, and so my short concise replies, of which are rebuttal enough, seem like “tweets” when actually they’re literally all the counter argument needed to what you’re saying	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:49 PM
5	Love and sex is not a right “Dystopian dating environment for men” Explain	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:45 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right Its a service not a commodity	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:45 PM
4	Love and sex is not a right No, the promise of a womans vagina should not be needed for a man to be a functioning adult. Find your own meaning in life, that’s one of the beautys of it, it’s not defined for anyone. For some it’s to simply survive, for some it’s to thrive. Entirely up to you. But sex as a promise from society to men just to basically look after yourself? Forget about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:42 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right No	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:38 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right What	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:28 PM
-3	Love and sex is not a right It is a privilege yes, but not one that should be “checked”	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:27 PM
0	Love and sex is not a right Irrelevant but ok	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:23 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right Negative feelings to themselves though, because negative feelings towards others implies it’s the fault of others which is entitlement	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:23 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right What would not disregarding the problem look like?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:22 PM
15	Love and sex is not a right Absolutely agree	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:21 PM
4	Love and sex is not a right Womens vagina is not societies treat to men for literally functioning as adults	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:21 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right Yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:21 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right Ok, and that will keep happening	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:21 PM
2	Love and sex is not a right So you disagree with the premise of my OP? In what way?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:20 PM
0	Love and sex is not a right Did James Bond and Marvel media make you take for granted the idea of being an impossibly awesome hero?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:20 PM
2	Love and sex is not a right Ok, but it’s none of their business to get involved in	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:18 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right You literally have voting rights if you want to sort that problem out	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:16 PM
2	Love and sex is not a right Fully in agreement with snipes	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:10 PM
2	Love and sex is not a right You’re trying to say that every single instance in your life that you don’t consent to as a man is the equivalent of rape Your argument was done before it began	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:08 PM
0	Love and sex is not a right Sex isn’t a commodity	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:06 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right Yes I find it interesting the amount of men on who who struggle with dating who cite disney and their mothers as their prime source of social education when younger…I wonder if there’s a correlation	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:06 PM
6	Love and sex is not a right How	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:04 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right What would “them mattering” look like?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:03 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right So what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:03 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right Correct	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 05:02 PM
5	Love and sex is not a right Im not saying people dont want it But I’d sooner see a man kill himself from loneliness than a woman be forced to fuck him	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:53 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right Yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:52 PM
2	Love and sex is not a right Not coherent	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:52 PM
1	Love and sex is not a right It's not incel behavior to feel absolutely betrayed by the way things are, or to grapple with the realities through venting or seeking validation Well it is if you’re an incel	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:52 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right Consensual love and sex are part of functioning society yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:51 PM
4	Love and sex is not a right What is the alternative. What does “not ignoring” them look like?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:50 PM
5	Love and sex is not a right It’s literally not a need	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:50 PM
4	Love and sex is not a right If its an entirely voluntary consensual interaction then yeah	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:48 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right You don’t need alcohol or nicotine but billions want it	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:48 PM
2	Love and sex is not a right The total opposite	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:46 PM
9	Love and sex is not a right Well what is it if not entitlement	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:46 PM
4	Love and sex is not a right Love is what someone feels towards you Its impossible to provide this without somebody actually loving you	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:44 PM
4	Love and sex is not a right There’s no choice but the accept. The alternative to “accepting” is heinous	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:43 PM
5	Love and sex is not a right I agree	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 04:41 PM
3	Love and sex is not a right How well others do when it comes to being chosen sexually is literally nobody elses business	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 03:14 PM
2	Love and sex is not a right Ok that makes sense, I agree	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 03:13 PM
–	Love and sex is not a right Everything you just said was wrong	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 02:56 PM
6	Love and sex is not a right What has this got to do with love and sex being a right	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 02:55 PM
14	Love and sex is not a right Yes commitment is not a right, I agree	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 02:40 PM
41	Love and sex is not a right Correct	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 02:39 PM
6	Love and sex is not a right If it's not a right it can be systematically taken away. You don’t “have” it to start with, it’s an experience somebody willingly shares with you. The only thing to be taken away is sexual autonomy and freedom, of which are rights	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 02:32 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Because I’m afraid to risk capital if which I have little of You have nothing to lose by doing incredibly basic things like working out and monthly haircuts Epic fail of an analogy	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/25 11:15 AM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Way easier to go gym and buy clothes bro they aren’t comparable	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/25 09:01 PM
3	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? You’re literally saying genetics are holding you back That’s the simplest definition of black pill there is	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 05:53 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Literally never met a guy who dresses like a bum that doesn’t hate themselves Met many people who dress well who like themselves way more than they deserve And yes, a lot of people who can’t dress themselves are autistic Are you autistic?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 05:52 PM
4	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? So you’re blackpill then not red pill	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 05:51 PM
6	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Oh kaaaaaaaaay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 05:49 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? You’re not even making sense You’re calling me a troll because you’ve utterly failed at this argument. So keep doing that Mr I Have the Confidence to Not care yet argue with strangers on the internet Anyway, a man who isn’t able to put any effort into his attire or doesn’t want to has checked out. Its not confidence, it incapability or he doesn’t like his place in relation to other people, aka, self loathing	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 02:11 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Its not confidence to not let them though is it it’s disassociation with interpersonal relationships, it’s a step towards isolation Confidence would be a bold create fashion choice, not totally abandoning the basics of looking after yourself	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 01:57 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? So you’re the wrong pill no?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 01:54 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Autistic people struggle with interpersonal relationships As do people who selth loathe As do people who have totally checked out of society You’ve got no real answer, just coping with your own inability to look after yourself And you clearly do care what others think. That’s oh so evident. So not only that, all this is just posturing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 01:53 PM
2	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Well it is Why would you not care about what people think? Why’s that a flex? Your friends, your family, maybe the woman you’re going to make a life and child with, maybe the peers you will make money and create things with Why would you not care what they think? Why would you not want to instill confidence in colleagues and friends that you are aboe to conduct yourself, look after yourself, engage socially and present yourself with confidence? Why would you not want to invoke arousal in a woman…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 01:40 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? ….or self loathing	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 01:36 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Well they would unless you’re doing it wrong	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 01:35 PM
2	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Why would genuinely not caring what anyone thinks of them be indicative of not hating yourself, you’ve totally checked out by that point, you couldn’t be more self loathing at that point	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 01:21 PM
2	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Dressing well is a multitude of things It communicates your ability to look after yourself. It shows your ability to stick to a routine, aka, wearing a suit to work, much like a uniform is based in discipline. It can literally cause arousal, depending on context situations and your choice or clothing. It shows you are competent, mindful and have some understanding of something that’s very subjective, taste, it’s sub communication. If you find clothes “unnecessary” and a “annoyance” and that peop…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 01:19 PM
2	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Dressing well is part of what he does	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 01:15 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? You clearly can’t then	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 01:10 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? You’re doing it wrong?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 12:55 PM
2	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Getting way less results with women also by looking incompetent at looking after yourself	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 12:55 PM
–	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Whys it a loaded question	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 12:53 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Sounds like you hate yourself Genuinely	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 12:51 PM
1	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? ….yeah? Well why didn’t it	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 12:29 PM
2	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? Explain what prioritising the “right” this are, and why dressing well deducts from them	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 12:28 PM
4	What’s stopping you becoming more attractive? If you’ve got a girlfriend it’s irrelephant	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/25 12:22 PM
3	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Exposed what lies? Nobody has lied about anything And what dating app experiments? Or do you mean tik tok/youtube videos literally designed to get clout of which we have no idea if it’s even real or not And I bet you an equal if not more amount of men would happily have sex with a model tier woman even if she admitted to heinous crimes Let me ask. Who exactly “lied” to you that women don’t like attractive men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 06:35 PM
0	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships So how would “taking it seriously” translate to real life? Letting you smash?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 05:40 PM
–	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships Yes but if she doesn’t find “lower standard” man attractive then pump and dumped >> no relationship >> stable relationship with lower standard man	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 05:10 PM
1	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Another fact	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 05:08 PM
2	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships So what future change will men complaining that women aren’t choosing them set the precedent for?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 05:08 PM
2	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Are you unironically claiming that it's common knowledge for men that women would rather pick a male model tier guy that is a "pea dough", over a normal, average guy? That’s not true though lol. Way to use an example like that to discredit yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 04:58 PM
1	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Another banger	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 04:55 PM
1	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships You’re attracted to fat women now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 04:29 PM
2	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Which post is this one similar to that I’ve made	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 04:28 PM
1	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Are you attracted to fat women	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 03:01 PM
2	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Stop complaining then, my OP is literally “new talking point please” comment to men and their constant complaining	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 03:01 PM
0	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships It still isn’t clear Better how	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 03:00 PM
2	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Literally every single complaining man on here fully well knows what women are attracted to So how have they been lied to? They all know the score And yes, “have more realistic standards” is negotiating attraction	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 02:59 PM
2	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships That if you want to attract women complaining at the very least won’t bring you closer to that	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 02:54 PM
1	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Well if you want a woman to want you then yeah that’s what you gotta do Complaining about not getting women is also gynocentric	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 02:53 PM
0	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships How is it going to help you It’s not Its just going to train you to wallow	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 02:52 PM
0	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Did I say that or did I say it won’t help you get women and sex	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 02:51 PM
1	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships How does that help anybody	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 01:49 PM
0	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships How would it change society for the better	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 01:47 PM
-21	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships There’s nothing to understand beyond “be more attractive”	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 01:46 PM
-4	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships If your goal is to attract women, then yeah whining in an unattractive way isn’t going to be conducive is it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 01:46 PM
2	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships I’m not whining about men whining, I’m informing them they’re wasting their time It’s not going to get them what they want	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 01:43 PM
-2	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships The other to do better? Makes no sense	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 01:40 PM
-3	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships Ok so how does your comment in any way support the idea that complaining is gona help you	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 12:15 PM
-1	Men cannot complain their way to sex and relationships If it’s immutable why complain	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 12:12 PM
3	If I want to know what kind of men women truly find desirable, should I look at (A) husbands OR (B) the men you are crushing on, flirting with, swiping right on, hooking up, having sexual flings, FWB and situation-ships with? Ok and now what they do is say Ha! Gotcha! You said looks matter. Well I was lied to blah blah blah It’s just nonsense from losers who were never getting laid anyway regardless of any external circumstances	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 12:03 PM
4	The same instinct and drive that makes men want to sleep with women is the same instinct and drive than makes women be extremely selective No but if somebody is good looking and strong and tall then they’re more likely to be genetically healthy than somebody who is wonky faced and slight framed or fat	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 12:06 PM
1	The same instinct and drive that makes men want to sleep with women is the same instinct and drive than makes women be extremely selective Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 11:36 AM
2	The same instinct and drive that makes men want to sleep with women is the same instinct and drive than makes women be extremely selective There’s probably lots of women you wouldn’t date based on their looks who would be wonderful partners And better to get healthy genes than maybe autism or have a short baby, and then later get a “good” guy to help raise the child Instinctively it makes sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 11:25 AM
3	The same instinct and drive that makes men want to sleep with women is the same instinct and drive than makes women be extremely selective It’s hard by design, feature not a bug	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 10:54 AM
1	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy It’s not a little metaphorical, it’s entirely metaphorical	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/25 09:46 AM
2	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy You’ll certainly never own a woman and that’s a good thing	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 10:35 PM
5	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy Being with somebody they are settling for. That options is there constantly, but they’re choosing not to take it	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 05:02 PM
3	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy But they have porn and warzone now	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 05:01 PM
5	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy Literally over half of 20 - 30 year olds are single	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 04:54 PM
-8	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy This is not true though	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 04:43 PM
3	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy They’re choosing that over the alternative though, so they’re HAPPIER yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 04:41 PM
-27	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy Nuclear family everyone has a wife and kids etc, yeah	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 04:41 PM
1	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy Why, they’re defunct	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 04:39 PM
11	The “everyone gets a wife” experiment lasted about 50 years and failed. Now it’s back to normalcy I actually once had a poster on here try and compare finding a partner to a car dealership	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/25 04:39 PM
1	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick Then why do they consent to the sex they don’t want	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 06:01 PM
1	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick You gona answer?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 10:53 AM
2	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick How has society impacted what you get an erection for	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 08:41 AM
5	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick Society cannot make a woman desire you	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 07:55 AM
2	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick Yeah?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 05:38 AM
3	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick This is an extremely common, annoying, fallacious mechanism for shutting down any discussion of unrealistic standards by equating it to rape. You can’t consent if you don’t want the person. “Unrealistic standards” are whatever the person chooses them to be. Nobody else can deem somebody’s standards unreasonable or unrealistic. They are what they are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/25 05:30 AM
8	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick No If you’re not ok being alone, lower them More women happily choose NO man over a lower man	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 05:33 PM
9	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick Check the comments	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 05:33 PM
10	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick You are not being clear, what media campaigns are the antithesis of my OP and how are they?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 04:31 PM
15	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick So? Doesn’t entitle you to sex And you’re consenting to taxation otherwise you wouldn’t be paying it The internet wouldn’t exist without it	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 04:30 PM
2	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick You’re already able to see people disagreeing with me in the comments	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 04:28 PM
7	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick What do you mean?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 04:27 PM
19	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick No it’s not Taxation is not the same as forced penetrative sex There are also many arguments to be made than an awful lot of money made is done so immorally, or only possible because of the infrastructure of society. Do you think if you pay tax you are owed sex?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 04:27 PM
33	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick Exactly I had an argument in another of my threads with a poster who said he had a right to be angry because he “didn’t consent to women universally seeing him as ugly” Which is insane	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 04:25 PM
9	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick Read my op, I addressed prostitution Sure you can, you didn't even use any arguments that show you can't. Basically, you are just saying I don't think... How?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 04:23 PM
3	You cannot make comparisons between sexual autonomy and freedom and taxation/monetary system/currency/resources. They are morally unbound and any attempt to compare them is sick So you think they’re the same? Sick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/25 04:20 PM
2	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships Negotiating attraction doesn’t work Even with yourself	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 11:10 PM
3	Do high value girls never get ghosted after a (casual) hookup? Nope, other commenters are right. Maybe you need to re read the OP because your comment is irrelevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 08:28 PM
3	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships Yes but if sex hurts because a short man simply doesn’t arouse them then the relationship isn’t going to work is it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 08:25 PM
4	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships Genuinely unsure if they are trolling me or not	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 08:12 PM
3	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships Cause again I NEVER AGREED TO HOW WOMEN SEE ME AS UNIVERSALLY UGLY. My consent matters as well no matter if I’m a man or a woman. It matters. Actually your consent firstly, makes no sense within this context. You cannot give consent to people seeing you in any way. You have no control or right to control that. Your “consent” for whether somebody sees you as ugly does not matter, people have the freedom to see anybody as ugly or not be attracted to them. To deny this is to imply you have the defa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 08:04 PM
5	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships How is your consent violated That’s like me saying “I never consented to not being seen as a millionaire by society.” And being angry because everybody didn’t crowd fund me into wealth. You can’t give somebody consent NOT to be attracted to you. You have moved those goal posts to something it never was. If an entire gender finds me universally ugly, then they should know that they don’t my consent to view me that way. That’s my argument. They do not need consent to view you that way. If anything…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 07:34 PM
3	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships Your consent was not violated. Firstly, people don’t need consent to NOT find you attractive. People certainly do need consent to engage with somebody romantically and sexually. Are you saying these people have violated your consent by NOT giving YOU consent to be sexual and romantic with them? Thats not how it works There’s no argument that you can say that would make you right on this What even is YOUR argument? Do people need consent to NOT find you attractive? Simply not true. Nobody owes yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 06:36 PM
5	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships People do not need consent to see you as not romantically or sexually. In fact, consent is only required the other way around, to actively engage with someone romantically or sexually. So you’re one hundred percent backwards about that. Nobody’s consent has been violated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 05:35 PM
7	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships And nobody OWES you that interest and nobody has done anything WRONG by not finding WebNews9978 attractive, Yes, you may feel anger. But the people you feel anger at have done nothing wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 05:23 PM
0	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships So “restrict what women can do and who they can communicate with” is your answer?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 05:19 PM
1	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships Yes it does	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 05:17 PM
2	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships My point of that other post was to put yourself in the position you are asking from women, and on reflection a lot of guys argued against it because they felt they had dropped their standards “enough” That’s my point, you can’t negotiate attraction or define what a “reasonable” standard is for somebody else You’re attracted or you’re not	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 02:11 PM
8	If the men on here somehow managed to convince all women to lower their standards, (negotiation of attraction) you can’t convince them to genuinely be happy in those relationships Are you able to refute any of my OP	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/25 01:39 PM
2	It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with “Allowed to have it worse” What do you mean “allowed”	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 08:24 PM
4	It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with Because women have more sexual value by default If they didn’t men wouldn’t want women more than women want men	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 05:52 PM
1	It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with How is it	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 03:59 PM
9	It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with As I said, feature not bug. I also believe there are men who are probably rightly single, but are also incredibly valuable in their own right. This is part of my point. Mens self esteem should not be tied to sexual success. Sexual success is actually the exception, not the norm	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 03:42 PM
5	It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with Of which is entirely down to the chooser	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 03:40 PM
–	It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with Those things mean different things to different people You are projecting looks and dick size onto that	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 03:40 PM
-4	It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with That is a list of commonly sought traits, not an exhaustive list or one claiming to be deal breakers for every woman. Each individual will see their own desired traits in the men they have picked I am not shaming. In fact I think men’s singledom should be normalised and not shamed. Men feeling shame or failure for not achieving something that is actually supposed to be the exception not the norm of the male experience in the problem. Everybody is depressed because they don’t have what daddy and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 03:37 PM
–	It’s a good thing that women are being more selective and choosing less men to be in relationships with How is it blackpill, I am not complaining (the opposite) and I’m not talking about looks	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/25 03:31 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable I genuinely don’t know, I think you’ve proven yourself wrong with it	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 06:52 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable The problem is the husband there pal	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 06:45 PM
1	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable I understand that you are a troll, Pointless ad hominem attack because you are unable to argue a rational point And I will repeat the same again. There are objective characteristics according to which all people in the world are classified. As well as all objects, natural phenomena, economics and other things. And you literally put "feelings💅" against objective factors that can be measured and classified. Yes. Because attraction is a feeling. It doesn’t matter how you “measure up” a human being,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 06:44 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Ahh see thats where you're wrong. These women all say theyre "hot" and rate themselves all 10s despite men saying we want a more natural look and not all that fake looking trash. Women are much more influenced by other women when it comes to beauty standards than what "men find hot." Women will routinely say ALL THE TIME they don't care what a man thinks or what a man finds attractive, they are doing it for themselves or their girlfriends. Glad to know we are in agreement when a woman finds hers…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 06:06 PM
1	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable What a lot of women see to be getting at is that they are decentering relationships generally which is their choice. That’s why I would suggest that men start doing the same. A situation in which one side wants a deal more than the other will lead to unbalanced outcomes. Yes, I think more men should learn to be happy single and walk away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 05:42 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable So when women do all this stuff to make themselves more "attractive," hair, nails, makeup, botox, lip fillers, expensive clothes, etc. and deem themselves "hot." You're then saying those women are f*cking delusional correct? They do it so others find them hot. Whether they deem themselves hot or not has no relevance, they’re hot because men find them hot, not because they say “I am hot now”	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 05:40 PM
1	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable You are unironically defending people who demand from partners what they themselves do not have. Not “demand”. Nobody owes them anything. But a mutual “no deal” and walking away from somebody they don’t find attractive? Yes I’m defending that, regardless of whether the interested man or others deem her his “level” or not. And also this is a complete defense of sexists from the same redpill who demand from women what they do not care about in men. What? Fuck "feelings💅" in terms of attraction Erm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 05:38 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable The comment is coherent youre just realizing how ridiculous women's standards are. No, the comment doesn’t make sense. When a man can literally be a "good man" and both "attractive" he will still get left by the wayside and get no attention from women That is literally impossible because you say it yourself, he is attractive. He can only be attractive if a woman is attracted to him. Attraction doesn’t occur in a vacuum. This is one of the many reasons why men are complaining. It doesn't matter h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 05:13 PM
1	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable I don’t see how your happiness (or lack thereof) has anything to do with the reasonableness of your standards. Because that’s the only person “reasonableness” has to do with? You can’t be “unreasonable to anybody ELSE with your standards. Otherwise that implies a sort of entitlement of which the standards of the woman are “unreasonably” in the way of. If I say that want a Victoria’s Secret model but I’m happy to be single if not, I’m effectively saying that I’m happy to be single. That doesn’t m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 05:09 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable "No good cars" despite her thinking they are in fact attractive. In other words, there are plenty of attractive cars that are also "good." But this is never good enough for unrealistic standards. This comment literally isn’t coherent The things that women find attractive in men are not completely subjective and therefore unable to be measured. Money, status, height, body type, facial features, hair, etc. Sure people are ultimately going to determine whether someone is "worthy" or not but to clai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 05:03 PM
1	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable I am not an anti vaxxer or flat earth, so irrelevant comment “Giving way” Attraction is literally a feeling dude Where have I defended hypocrites and sexists? Pretty poor argument from you there. Running out of gas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 05:00 PM
3	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable It’s only unreasonable if you’re not also happy to be single if nobody adheres to those standards. The only person you can be “unreasonable” to is yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 04:59 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable “No good men” she’s attracted to. If she’s not attracted to them, they’re irrelevant to her dating life. Doesn’t matter how “good” they are, they’re useless if there’s no attraction. This is where you're wrong again. "I'M" not the sole one deeming them great. This is why we have all sorts of different independent organizations who rate cars based upon their safety, features, comfort, reliability, etc. Yeah, so for an analogy to work it has to have some relevance and equivalent to the subject at …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 04:49 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Women are the source of all living human beings. There are very few things more consequential to society than who women have sex with. So? Good for them? Sounds like more of an argument for their sexual autonomy than against. but who women fuck absolutely is everyone's business. It’s the business of them and who they fuck, that’s it. So not really much of an argument from you there	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 04:36 PM
3	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Walk/catch public transport is obfuscating from the analogy. We're talking about cars, not different means of transportation. No it’s not. Its being single. You're proving my point by demonstrating that despite there being plenty of great cars available you can never be pleased. YOU’RE deeming them great. If driving them is a miserable experience it doesn’t matter how “great” they are by someone else’s standards	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 04:32 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Lol, well it is 👍	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 04:30 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable A 30 year old woman dating a 21 year old man would be creepy too Its creepy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 04:16 PM
6	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable If it’s not a car that they would rather drive than walk/catch public transport than yeah You’re just saying “great” car like a blanket statement If the car is “great” but every time your ass touches the seat you recoil and feel like vomitting or every time you start the engine your vagina hurts then, yeah, all the cars can be “great” but it’s not better than the bus	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 04:15 PM
1	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Because it’s fucking creepy	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 04:12 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Yeah, my EXACT POINT about temperature is that it can be measured, attraction cannot. So that doesn’t help your argument. The objective characteristics of the guy don’t matter. If he’s that “hot” he’s not going to care if a woman rejects him, is he? And if he’s “hot” and getting rejected by women he deems “less” objectively attractive than him, then he’s not that attractive is he, because attraction is subjective to who feels that attraction. And a fat woman is not unreasonable if she only goes …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 04:08 PM
5	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable If you're in the Western Bloc, you had an American education whether you know it or not. This perception of political ideology, the fallacies that it relies on, the stereotypes, the assumptions, the precepts. They're all American. Oookay so we have the same education then lol. So pointless comment. Human relationships cannot be reduced to just what particular individuals voluntarily agree to between themselves. Dating and sexual relationships absolutely are. What other people do effects you, wha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 03:59 PM
7	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable No good men they’re attracted to Good men they’re not attracted to are irrelevant in dating	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 03:51 PM
3	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Yes exactly in that case he needs to lower his standards because he’s being unreasonable to HIMSELF Those aren’t his actual standards if he’s actually not happy being alone And this is the crux A lot of men think women she lower their standards to appease male loneliness, instead of men lowering their own	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 03:44 PM
3	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable You’re analogy for temperature using the breakdown of proteins would have to have an attraction equivalent- aka somebody so “objectively” attractive that EVERY SINGLE person would just HAVE to fuck them. Doesn’t exist. And your last couple of paragraphs… these women do not meet these standards which makes them unreasonable? Not true. It’s not unreasonable if she’s simply not attracted to less. If a fat woman wants a fit man, and she is simply unattracted to fat men, then she can hold out (fat wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 03:22 PM
4	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable I’m from the UK Ok then, go on, expand on your point that dating can’t be viewed through a libertarian lens What did you mean then? What are the alternatives?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 03:11 PM
–	The only metric for your level of attractiveness is the results you’re getting. How you rate yourself, or others, or who you deem your level means absolutely nothing. Literally half the people replying are arguing that	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 02:19 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Well they did choose no man by choice if they didn’t settle Whether they “bitch” or not, they’re still happier bitching and being with nobody than settling	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 02:18 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable They’re not unreasonable - he’s just not gona get anyone that level If he’s happy being single rather than settling, even better	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 02:17 PM
3	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable If your goal is attract a partner you want and are happy with, then no, there are no unreasonable standards if you are content to be single OVER settling	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 02:15 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Yes but thats not the dynamic is it Any given woman is not holding her standard to 50-100 times the standard of every other woman It’s only unreasonable within the context of all the other sellers and buyers If somebody buys that sandwich, great. If not and for whatever reason the seller chooses to keep hold of the sandwich instead of not selling it, then fine, it’s not unreasonable Who is it unreasonable to? Who is being wronged? If they’re more than happy to keep hold of the sandwich, then it’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 02:14 PM
8	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Well not really Economically and politically there’s different arguments to be had But to NOT be a libertarian as far as dating and sex goes, is to imply either redistribution and regulation, aka socialism OR making women all cover up and be a mans property, aka conservatism I’m vehemently against both. So libertarianism in dating? By far the most rational and moral stance	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 01:40 PM
4	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Well exactly- you can’t demand women settle	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 01:36 PM
3	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Read the OP?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 01:35 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable It’s not unreasonable if A : People pay that much B : You’re happier to hold out for a buyer than to sell for less Why is it “unreasonable”? What defines it as unreasonable? The CUSTOMERS? Well not really. And the customers in this instance are saying that the majority if sandwich vendors are charging an unreasonable amount. So it’s not over priced, it’s just THE price because those selling would rather hold out than sell for cheaper	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 01:35 PM
3	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Well objectively the weather is not “warm” in comparison to how hot it CAN get, or how cold it CAN get We think 90 degrees is warm because it’s hot for us. The sun is thousands and thousands of times hotter, so objectively a warm day is cold. We just FEEL it’s hot for US The reason we perceive certain features as universally attractive is because more people feel attraction towards it. The “objective” attractive qualities somebody has doesn’t give them more entitlement to those with less attract…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 01:22 PM
5	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable No, we identify characteristics as attractive because people choose people with those characteristics If nobody felt those characteristics were attractive then they would not be deemed attractive characteristics If a man has a lot of characteristics deemed attractive l, but nobody is picking him, he can’t expect women to simply choose him because according to his objective analysis and science he has attractive attributes and therefore is entitled to women he deems below him If the tallest most …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 01:04 PM
4	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Attraction is a feeling Without the people and their choices the feeling doesn’t exist, so it cannot be objective A human beings attractiveness does not exist without somebody to feel the attraction It is not objective	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 12:44 PM
9	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Yeah and no man is an option They are choosing that WHY should they have to instead choose a man YOU deem “reasonable”??	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 12:42 PM
5	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable It does mean they’re not delusional, they’re LITERALLY choosing NO man over they’re requirements You’re saying they should lower those requirements below the men they want, below no man, all the way down to somebody you DEEM reasonable	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 12:35 PM
3	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Yeah? And?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 12:34 PM
4	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable They’re not delusional It’s This man > No men > Men below my standard If these women are choosing No Man then they are attaining something they want more than the men below they’re standards No man is a better outcome	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 12:10 PM
3	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable I state in my OP that attraction isn’t a fiat currency It cannot be equates to money and products	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 12:09 PM
2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Yes they could indeed improve themselves to meet those standards	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 12:08 PM
10	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable There’s no such thing as 8’s There’s who is choosing who If those you’re choosing aren’t choosing you back, no matter how much you’re settling for them in your own mind, you’re still not at their level	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:51 AM
6	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Ye so it’s irrelevant what league a man thinks a woman is in or whether she should settle with him, because if she’s not buying what he’s selling, then he’s not enough The choice speaks volumes	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:49 AM
14	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable So we agree that your “level” is who picks you? And they are not being unreasonable for choosing no man. They are not obliged to pick any man. No man over men not reaching their standards or preferences is a choice and a valid and reasonable one	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:47 AM
-2	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable I’m not sure what your point is	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:45 AM
11	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Men still have agency as to whether they choose larger or curvier women though And if they are choosing, great If they’re not, no amount of body positivity media or discourse is going to mean shit to anybody or anything and is therefore irrelevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:44 AM
11	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Well it’s not if both parties are choosing to do it	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:43 AM
5	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Yes, so when men aren’t able to find anybody, and get frustrated that women won’t “lower their standards” and instead choose NO man over them, then those men need to stop being delusional and lower their standards more	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:42 AM
8	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable You don’t understand that choosing NO man IS a choice They are choosing to be with no man. Just because their first choice doesn’t choose them back doesn’t mean instant default to settling with another man below her standards. NO man fills that gap and is a choice in and of itself that they are actively taking	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:26 AM
9	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable And yet women are choosing to either be messed around by non committed men or being alone before settling That’s a choice they’re making. And they’re choice is what determines value	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:24 AM
5	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable It’s not too simple conceptually, it’s literally all there is to it. NBA players play alongside many other people in their team and against other players. In dating it’s two people and their choices. If she’s not choosing you, and nobody else her level is choosing you, no matter how attractive you think you are or deem her to be, you’re not her level. Otherwise she’d pick you	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:16 AM
5	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable It’s the men bitching about women not settling for them	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:14 AM
14	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable There is no such thing as “mate level” It’s literally determined by who is picking you Where else does this “level” exist if not in the assortive mating outcomes themselves? Who’s keeping track of everyone’s value? God? Women are not being “unreasonable” because they’re choosing no man over men who themselves deem themselves “her level”	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:14 AM
6	There’s no such thing as an unreasonable standard or preference. Your objective level is who is buying what you’re selling. You cannot deem what makes somebody’s standards unreasonable Have you read my OP? If a woman is willingly choosing to provide that for him then it’s not too high If nobody is willing to do that, then it is too high	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 11:08 AM
1	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Ok then her standards ARE REALISTIC then because reality is giving her dates and attention and sex	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 07:21 AM
1	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Yes if that woman is not attracting those men then she’s just not gona get anyone The same way a man not attracting anyone he believes to be his level is. Until you get actual results your aiming too high There’s no referee in this game. It’s pure results based reality	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/25 06:29 PM
2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough The dating market isn’t something that’s meant to “function” it’s not an institution or system it’s free will and biology and instinct Ironically the closer to biological instinct people act in mating the more “functional” it is	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 09:25 PM
2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough What do you mean by your anger is justified And what is it that you’re angry at these women for?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 05:06 PM
4	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Not an issue for me at all I’d encourage any man who struggles with dating to leave the country	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 04:38 PM
2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough I feel empathy for your position. But you have no choice but to be “ok” with it Unless somebody willingly chooses to be with you, what form does “not being ok” with it look like?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 04:37 PM
3	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Your point is not succinct I will try and answer plainly If men don’t want to A improve themselves further, or B lower their own standards - then that’s the end of the line for them, there is no other solution	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 04:36 PM
10	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough There is no such thing as “dysfunction” in the dating market Theres freedom, choices and consequences Women choose to have a certain standard. It’s a standard they feel they can’t compromise on because if they did it would be worse than being alone. They enact that choice. That’s it. Nobody is guaranteed anything and value and attraction are not tied to anything tangible or measurable. Its just get togethers or not get togethers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 04:34 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Well if they have enough wealth they won’t struggle will they	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 03:52 PM
1	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough There’s no such thing as “realistic standards” I’m interested, how would you define “realistic standards” To me it would be standards that garner results. If as a man you are not getting results, your standards are not realistic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 03:22 PM
2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough I’m sorry what point are you trying to articulate? I do say “if you’ve self improved as much as you’re willing to”	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 03:21 PM
3	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Well this is my point Men do say this about women So now I’m saying it about men and asking them to be put in their shoes Comprehend someone trying to tell you to lower your standards to someone you genuinely don’t find attractive Men are always asking women to do that here all the time	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:58 PM
2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough No i did not, otherwise I would have said “women are narcissists” Likewise, I could say men EXPECTING women to give them a chance is entitled narcissism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:56 PM
2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Well not really, as they’re “high” because they are not attracted to lower So they feel the same about having to lower their requirements as a man who ALREADY feels he’s pushing the bottom of his attraction threshold does It’s just asking people to settle for those they don’t want. How “reasonable” you deem those standards is irrelevant. All that’s relevant is reality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:50 PM
3	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough It’s not insane if he’s unable to get any better than a 3 it’s literally just reality	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:48 PM
3	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough He is being unreasonable though if he’s not able to attract a 50th percentile woman He simply is Attraction isn’t backed up by gold like currency used to be. There’s no set value. It’s who buys what you’re selling and who doesn’t. Just because there’s a certain amount of women in the world and a certain amount of men, doesn’t mean that those women HAVE to pair up with a man. There’s what HAPPENS and what doesn’t happen. If a “50 percentile man” doesn’t attract “50 percentile women” then he’s got…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:48 PM
2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough There’s no such thing as objectively unreasonable or unrealistic standards Theres literally just who will and does find you mutually attractive and who doesn’t. If no woman finds you attractive but you deem yourself as at least attractive enough that you “Should” be getting some results, you are simply wrong	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:41 PM
1	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Yes, and some get a bite, and some need to go even lower	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:39 PM
0	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough The onus id on nobody The reality is all that matters. Can’t get a partner? Very uncomfortable without a partner? Then do something about it. Go lower, because reality is whether you deem it fair or reasonable that the women you’re going for ain’t biting. Or refuse to do so, because you deem your standards low enough. And remain single. Which is what more women seem comfortable doing, otherwise they’d literally lower them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:38 PM
2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough What bullshit	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:36 PM
3	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Ok, but all that matters is actual reality If you can’t attract one go lower Feel like you’re going TOO low? Well so do the women you’re asking to do the same. The specifics of the standards themselves are irrelevant. What matters is who is more comfortable holding out. And from this sub it doesn’t seem like it’s women who are finding it hard to hold out	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:31 PM
0	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Ok, but all that matters is who these men can get It’s basic math If they can’t get the women they’re aiming for, go lower When one eventually is mutually attractive then that’s the sweet spot. Until then it’s just pure science. Attraction isn’t theory it’s biology	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:16 PM
2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough But not enough	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:15 PM
-2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Well maybe who they “feel” is below them is wrong and they are still going for people above them and need to drop their standards lower? Almost no woman on the planet would reject an attractive man because they thought he was slumming it with them	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:15 PM
2	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Oh so I should expect this thread to be full of people agreeing with me should I Shall we review this in an hour lol?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:12 PM
5	Men who can’t find a girlfriend have simply not dropped their standards enough Hard disagree	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:11 PM
2	The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk away Ok. Irrelevant to either of our reality or this thread.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 02:01 PM
3	The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk away I’ve been in multiple and am in my longest one right now. So you’re judgment is wrong lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/25 12:44 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Indicates what	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 08:45 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit I say most young people are single and going forward it will only get worse You provide a stat proving my point You then try some mental gymnastics totally missing the fact that if at any given time statistically 20 - 30 year olds are mostly single, regardless of WHO is single at any given time, that it’s still MOST You then get frustrated with yourself and leave Ok	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 08:40 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit I don’t think you actually understand your own stats or argument	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 08:34 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Have you actually read his comments Like….what	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 08:20 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit For most of their life ye …..52 percent counts as “most” btw	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 07:50 PM
0	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit He’s LITERALLY telling is what he believes? Moral grandstanding is blinding you	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 07:48 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Life is not a movie and the first 80 percent of your comment is not succinct or sensical at all	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 07:47 PM
7	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Because you sell suits?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 07:44 PM
2	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit My argument is that, by your own stats, more young people than ever are single and as that generation ages more of them will become single and less people will choose to be together based on trends and how society is changing due to technology and culture	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 06:22 PM
0	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Literally not my point and not what I said	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 06:21 PM
4	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Ye and likewise it doesn’t mean those with partners are in a relationship for the entire 10 years either But at any one time less than half are with somebody….like….why would you try and use that stat to disprove me lol And it’s not going to get BETTER. How have things improved in dating since tinder and instagram released in 2012?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 06:15 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit How is it blackpill? You can frame anything that’s not “all men will find love and everything will be fine” as blackpill	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 06:13 PM
3	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit You just posted a stat that said “52 percent of people between 20 and 30 are single, more than half” Dude, this argument is over, you proved my point lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 05:58 PM
7	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Survivorship bias	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 05:56 PM
5	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit You do not understand how young 30 is in 2025	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 05:55 PM
0	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit My OP has nothing to do with looks and I literally say in the title society will be fine	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 05:53 PM
0	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit ah your friend married at 22 ok im wrong time to delete the entire subreddit	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 05:52 PM
6	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Not in the interest of western women to adhere to WHAT exactly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 05:40 PM
2	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Most people are on the internet a lot that’s my point Some boomer shit right here	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 05:39 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Oh what, so more people are going to pair up going forward? Is that your argument? Do you have any argument against anything I’ve said on this sub?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 05:38 PM
4	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Not to all of them no? Do you even know what your own point is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 05:36 PM
–	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit You are arguing with a man from Afghanistan	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 05:21 PM
5	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit You literally just showed me stats saying most people in the prime of their life even CURRENTLY are single I don’t even need to write a rebuttal to your comment	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 04:58 PM
2	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit You’re literally just talking about the past And the future is terminally online	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 04:57 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Who is fighting against utopia? Young straight white men? Not really Those men will not “inevitably” attract a woman at some point. It’s far from guaranteed just because they “get out into the world”	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 04:46 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit It’s actually pretty accurate	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 04:43 PM
–	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit My point is they’re NOT marrying anyone they don’t want to As in ye, going forward, less pairings	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 04:43 PM
1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit I am not paid	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 04:42 PM
8	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Oh you’re nephew and his friends are dating in high school, ok, I’ll delete my post lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 04:34 PM
-1	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit Them being “loving” is irrelevant if the love isn’t reciprocated And how can they meet the physical needs if they’re not attracted	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 04:07 PM
–	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit No, they won’t be married to these men That’s my point. That era is gone	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 04:06 PM
–	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit My posts, if you look, have incredibly high engagement	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 03:53 PM
-2	The 25 and younger male generation will be overwhelmingly single and we are lucky because it won’t affect society one bit My post has nothing to do with blackpill	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/25 03:53 PM
2	Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than men I have done alright with women in my life, ConstipatedAvocado, thanks And a man in his mid thirties being desirable has what to do with my point about 22 year old women essentially being too young for a man in his thirties, not as in “that’s wrong” but as in, men in their thirties look at women ten years young and, unless a bit weird, think “hmmm, kid”	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/25 05:32 PM
1	Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than men Yes but why is there an “imbalance”	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/25 05:29 PM
1	Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than men Well that’s literally the same thing	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/25 04:06 PM
5	Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than men As a man in his mid thirties, I look at an in shape 35 year old woman who was clearly also hot in her early twenties and think “she’s hot” I look at a 22 year old girl and think “shes a kid” I think there’s a lot of guys in their early and mid twenties who look at 30 as ancient, when it’s really not and it’s also coming way faster than you think, and you will find women your age attractive when you get there	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/25 03:54 PM
22	Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than men Yes your example of yourself as a woman is eye opening no? She’d be absolutely drowning in attention, even if her face was very basic. Are you drowning in attention? Probably not. (Not saying you don’t do well)	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/25 03:20 PM
1	Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than men You what	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/25 03:16 PM
2	Women have not somehow artificially manipulated the dating market to increase their perceived value, the modern dating market simply revealed that women are more desirable than men Value is determined by demaned and men demand more women than vice versa, so yes in the dating market some are more valuable than others	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/25 03:16 PM
28	The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk away You’ve been married the entire time social media and dating apps have been as prominent as they are, and probably in a relationship with her for a year or more beforehand. You’re literally commenting on an era you know nothing about	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/25 12:05 PM
26	The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk away Very out dated opinion	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/25 11:59 AM
22	The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk away Literally what’s the alternative? You get into a relationship, as an average man you’re incredibly easy to replace. Fact. So is the alternative to just not care? If you don’t care why be with them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/25 11:58 AM
34	The average man cannot set healthy boundaries or feel at ease and comfortable in a relationship because he’s so replaceable she’ll just walk away Its not about being scared or being afraid of being alone The average man is objectively easily replaceable Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/25 11:30 AM
3	Men who act holier than thou when it comes to women’s selectivity. You’d act exactly the same in their shoes How One is literally just women wanting men to leave them alone One is actively controlling	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 09:36 PM
2	Men who act holier than thou when it comes to women’s selectivity. You’d act exactly the same in their shoes How is female selectivity a problem	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 07:51 PM
2	Men who act holier than thou when it comes to women’s selectivity. You’d act exactly the same in their shoes How	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 07:24 PM
1	Men who act holier than thou when it comes to women’s selectivity. You’d act exactly the same in their shoes wat	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 05:30 PM
1	Men who act holier than thou when it comes to women’s selectivity. You’d act exactly the same in their shoes Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 04:18 PM
0	Men who act holier than thou when it comes to women’s selectivity. You’d act exactly the same in their shoes I do know what sexual dimorphism is The average woman looks feminine and like a woman who as a man you biologically want to fuck The average five ten man with a basic Joseph Gordon Levitt friendly face and a slim but not muscular body is NOT sexually dimorphic. That is totally neutral. It doesn’t indicate testosterone or masculinity, whereas the female equivalent does indicate femininity And your views are out dates. Bang average women in their forties are sleeping with young good looking guys f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 03:52 PM
-5	Men who act holier than thou when it comes to women’s selectivity. You’d act exactly the same in their shoes Yes it does Women are sexually dimorphic almost by default They have long hair, feminine faces even if not pretty. Most women have at least some visible curves to their body highlighting fertility and breasts, even small ones, are literally sex organs right there just below eye level. The most bog standard woman looks like a woman, there is a sexually dimorphic quality The average five foot ten man who is not fat but not muscular and has an average face literally registers as totally neutral on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 03:46 PM
1	Men who act holier than thou when it comes to women’s selectivity. You’d act exactly the same in their shoes Me too	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 03:13 PM
-2	Men who act holier than thou when it comes to women’s selectivity. You’d act exactly the same in their shoes Patriarchy is a problem, female selectivity isn’t	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 02:31 PM
0	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Irrelevant comment	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/25 06:15 AM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. No argument then	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 04:35 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. Wow, was easy to bait that you’re tall out of you to prove my point It’s not the “techniques” that’s getting you the “sales” but It’s the product ;-)	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:47 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. Spotted the average height sales guy	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:26 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. It’s not a lie though is it	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:25 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. Absolutely irrelevant if she doesn’t like you though	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:21 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. I talk about behaviour and performative action as well as well as natural attractiveness. I’ve not stated specific immutable traits	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:20 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. It’s being there with a need, and providing it consistently It’s not some magic charm. And you have to have the goods and be able to provide them, both in sales and dating Sales companies very much drill it into their sales people that they have more control over the outcome than they do, so they remain consistent and persistent in the face of mostly rejection. They also throw awards parties and put a lot of money into glamourising the industry to retain people because it’s mostly rejection duri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:18 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. Yes bit its way more widespread than it was	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:13 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. What?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:13 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. How is it black pill	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:12 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. Ok, yeah maybe? Maybe they can just spot it when a guy is trying to neg her and it’s coming across as cringe	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:10 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. I don’t know I didn’t see the messages Maybe, maybe not. But she knows what negging is	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:08 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. What do you mean his honesty? And the second point. She said he was wearing his muscles, that they didn’t “suit” him (That’s not the most brutal thing ai’ve heard a woman say about a gym bro lol)	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:04 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. No, I don’t say the gym is manipulative Everyone should work out for many reasons. I just think it doesn’t make a man more attractive, or at least anywhere near to the extent it used to	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 03:03 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. No I don’t consider the gym to be performative behaviour or manipulation But it is very much something that isn’t as effective as people think. It’s seasoning to an already attractive man	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:55 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. What do you mean Everyone knows make up exists There’s a massive industry not only about products, but how to apply it Its celebrated Nobody is pretending make up doesn’t exist and it doesn’t make people look better They know, all women know, all men know to. What a weird thing to try and argue about	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:53 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. No behaviour and type are also part of it I don’t emphasise looks much at all in my OP	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:52 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. Ok	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:51 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. No it’s a good thing because women are choosing men they have genuine attraction for and performative behaviour and manipulation aren’t producing results	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:50 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. Sales and recruitment only works because of the persistent nature of calling a client everyday and then catching them on a day when they are desperate or don’t have any other option. It’s not the “sales” that’s selling, it’s the being there at the right time Women have WAY more options now than ever. There is zero shortage. Muscles enhance the right guys, and do nothing for most men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:47 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. I think five to ten years ago certain behaviour and performative facades by men who were not naturally attractive did have some effect simply because it caused curiosity in some women as to why this guy was treating HER like the option, so they entertain it maybe by sleeping with them once or going on one date	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:43 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. Two things Why would they And They never will because they don’t have to	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:42 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. They don’t fall for Nigerian prince scams though	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:40 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. Not really a coherent sentence. What do you mean and how is this relevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:39 PM
–	One good thing about dating in 2025 is that the red pill idea of faking it until you make it simply doesn’t work anymore. Women want authentically attractive men. I think it DID to some level in prior years, because the content was less out there in the zeitgeist and it wasn’t as prevalent amongst day to day language as it is now especially with social media etc. I think it used to kinda cause an intrigue with some women, who thought “this guy is kinda attractive if I squint but is acting just like the really attractive men who I know. MAYBE there’s something to it” So they sleep with him or go on a date and very quickly realise it’s just a guy who watche…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 02:30 PM
29	You need to realise that for women, you need to compete with NO man as well as with the men she is attracted to You are competing with her contentment of being alone over a man of which she feels is a chore to be around	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/25 06:12 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Who is picking up the ball	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 04:38 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Yeah? But they are happier single	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 04:26 PM
1	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem What does a penalty even look like in dating	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:46 PM
-1	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem And it’s not wrong	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:45 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Yeah and it doesn’t help them get the men they want does it	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:45 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Yes literally	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:38 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem I’ve already told you, they mean “where are all the good men I am attracted to” Where all the good men they are not attracted to is irrelevant to them	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:37 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Which specific women	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:29 PM
5	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem It’s very much in line with my other posts	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:25 PM
3	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Yes I agree which I say in the first paragraph of my OP But the fact remains it won’t help men get dates or sex	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:22 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem They’re not in the exact same boat Women are more tolerant to being alone than men, especially when the option IS THOSE men One simply wants one more than the other To them “settling” would BE a problem, not SOLVE the problem	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:21 PM
6	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Ok well lots of other men can empathise no? If it’s not because they think empathy and sympathy can get them sex, then it doesn’t need to be coming from women does it? And it’s not eugenics disguised as anything. Its literally individual free will and attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:16 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem They are saying “where are all the good men gone” as in “where are the good men I am attracted to gone”	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:15 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem And as I said even if it becomes objective, which it doesn’t - it doesn’t mean you’re entitled to women of your objective level. Its all free will and choice. Women would seemingly rather choose to be single. They KNOW they can settle and they don’t. Tell them to do it all they want, if they would rather not they won’t	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:14 PM
3	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Yes but that is not how the game is played for men, men actually have to score a goal in order to score a goal	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:12 PM
7	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem So you think society can, for some reason, on the back of feeling sorry for undateable men, come together to change an entire genders perception (somehow) of what they’re attracted to? Or, just work out, groom and dress better?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 03:11 PM
3	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Well we are because the women who would rather not be single literally DO settle down, otherwise they won’t do it	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:59 PM
3	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem There’s no objective equal, it’s literally just who chooses you You are not entitled to somebody even if they WERE “objectively” your equal, if they don’t want to be with you	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:59 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem What do you mean we’re not talking about them? Who? Yes, which is why a man’s only option is to become more attractive	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:57 PM
6	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Ye literally if you don’t like being single then date who will willingly date you. Thats super obvious Most women WOULD rather be single, so for them it’s not an issue	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:45 PM
5	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Why am I having to repeat this They want to be with the men they want They cant get that - oh no, not ideal. Sad even. Being single? Maybe not ideal, but Settling for men you deem their equal - sad, even sadder than being alone Men on the other hand I cant get women I am really attracted to so I will settle for who I believe is my league, or a bit lower, because it’s better than being alone So for women - its NOT a problem that men and women of similar leagues aren’t settling. It’s only a proble…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:43 PM
3	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem As I said, what they’re asking is “where are all the good men I’m attracted to” As far as dating goes, if you’re not attractive to them then you’re not part of the equation	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:24 PM
5	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Because women are happier with NO man than that man The men need to be a better prospect for that woman than NO man. If a woman isn’t choosing to be with you, then they are not your equal. It’s entirely subjective who is on who’s level. If that person doesn’t want you, and you want them, then that’s it, they’re not your equal and there’s nothing you can do about it other than improve. The only person in the world who determines the value in a deal are the buyers and sellers. You can’t say “I dee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:23 PM
3	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Yes but women would rather be single than do that Its the men who don’t So it’s not women who need to be more chooseable, they’re fine where they are You see, men not only have to compete with better men, they’re fine where have to compete with NO man too which IS often a better option	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:18 PM
5	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Yes womens choice is a mens issue, if the meant want to be chosen - how hards that to understand	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:17 PM
3	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem They’re asking where all the good men who they attracted to are	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:04 PM
4	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Ok, well women are choosing not to, so that’s entirely the male’s issue. How’s that fixed? The men make themselves more chooseable	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:03 PM
4	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Women cannot be blamed for men who hate women I understand how sympathy CAN help in other aspects for sure. I can feel sympathy for a lonely man, as a male myself, and show him empathy etc and maybe give him advice and friendship. This will benefit him. But the CORE problem of which is - a man can’t attract a woman - can’t be solved by anybody’s sympathy	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 02:02 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Why’s it relevant who cares about your dating woes if you can’t attract somebody though	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:51 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Because if you want to have any success that’s what you need to do Women KNOW they can secure a relationship, those men tell them every single day how much they want to be with these women. So women are way past that point A lot of men still haven’t even got to that conclusion yet	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:50 PM
3	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem They could settle if they wanted to but they are not out of choice The offers there for them and for a lot, thanks, but no thanks	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:45 PM
10	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem It’s not your opinion that matters though is it You do not own women, you cannot deem what makes them happy or not. They do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:40 PM
-7	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem You can’t	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:39 PM
5	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Yes it doesn’t apply to all A lot of men without success in dating are not clamouring for sympathy, I would agree. But a large subsection and potentially the majority believe somehow that “somebody else” can help them. They can’t, in dating everyone is alone	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:39 PM
0	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem What do you mean? It is nobody else’s fault, how can it be	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:38 PM
1	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem How is the sympathy going to benefit anyone though And more socialising is something any individual can choose to do, it’s entirely in their control	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:37 PM
9	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Women are fully aware they can choose a safer option and settle They can see that choice, they know They’re CHOOSING not to. And it’s very rarely people don’t do things they think is in their best interest. They really do prefer being alone to settling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:35 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem What’s your point? Bit of a ramble	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:13 PM
7	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Unless the government mandates everyone is forced to exercise (which you can choose to do yourself) and supplements grooming services (really not that expensive) and products and issues everyone a free therapist, then there literally is nothing within the realm of known science that can help you become more attractive. That IS the only answer, for you to become more attractive	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:12 PM
11	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem I think it’s an extension of the fact that a lot of people, even if subconsciously, simply cannot accept that nobody else in the entire world but them, the individual themselves, can fix their dating problems	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 01:05 PM
9	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Society cannot help you in dating though And in dating, sympathy does not help you at all. It’s just a fact	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 12:58 PM
2	You think you will benefit from sympathy but you won’t. Sympathy and pity is the opposite of attraction. As a grown man you need to fix your own problem Men who struggle in dating are not “victims” And “victim blame” It’s literally nobody else’s problem. Or fault.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/25 12:57 PM
1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. What does this even mean	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 05:38 PM
1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. “They should control themselves” they can do what they want and do do what they want. And real life isn’t a film. The President of the United states is a felon, he’s also married. Elon musk has like a million kids. Your “shouldn’t reward bullied” this is bizarre and out of touch with anything that matters. Attraction is A moral.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 05:36 PM
0	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. What’s the X?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:46 PM
1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Ok bro Gona keep posting my opinion though	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:45 PM
1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. So where’s all this “being lied to” coming from then lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:44 PM
1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. You can’t show me ONE example of media where the guy rises above the traditionally attractive guys because he’s kind and compassionate. You are literally filling in that blank in your head. They always have another caveat. Because it’s a fictional film.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:43 PM
-2	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. By who?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:42 PM
1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Go outside and make a fool of yourself over and over and over and try have fun doing it, one day you’ll win by accident and you can build from there. And regularly exercise. And ditch the gaming addiction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:41 PM
0	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. “Literally every woman told them” - simply not a fact And these men are not victims	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:40 PM
2	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. I’m apathetic towards you telling me how I should feel or what i should do, I’m just informing you - these posts are fine and I am standing by them	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:09 PM
-3	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Ye	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:08 PM
2	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Ye i agree autism is to play	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:08 PM
0	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. I’d say men who “naturally” fall into supplicating simp behaviour and find “pick her up and throw her on the bed” as some kind of performative chore really need to ask themselves - “is it bullshit that I keep persuading myself the ‘real’ me isn’t naturally masculine, and why do I feel more comfortable being inherently effeminate and a simp?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:07 PM
-1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. It’s much harder for sure	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:04 PM
1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Bullys or jocks do those things with women Or at the very least, MORESO than quiet nerdy safe guys I’m not saying bullys or jocks (moreso in highschool) are perfect, just that they happen to have more attractive traits	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 04:03 PM
0	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. You should work out anyway for your own health And you need to enjoy your interactions with women. Its fun to joke and flirt and converse. But don’t EXPECT anything from them or put pressure on the interaction. They are not a puzzle where the prize is sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 03:33 PM
-8	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. An effeminate man or mommys boy then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 03:31 PM
3	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. No, posts like these are absolutely fine	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 03:30 PM
7	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Not a single kid hit the gym in my high school in the early 2000’s so I dunno how that is relevant All young teenage boys are sex obsessed lol Sounds like you we’re abnormally sheltered? Home schooled? Single mother as a parent? It’s not victim blaming, there are no “victims” of this, some people simply fail to acknowledge obvious reality and blame that on their dating woes	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 03:29 PM
-1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Feel what you want, you weren’t “lied to”	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 03:27 PM
2	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. How did I?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 03:26 PM
-2	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Just an incoherent ramble	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 03:25 PM
-6	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. No, check your lack of accountability and victim complex	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 03:23 PM
1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. What do you mean “rewarding” Sex isn’t a gold star, it’s a biological thing. The woman enjoys the dynamic too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 02:37 PM
1	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Well if you simply exhaust all options and cannot attract anyone regardless of your best efforts then yeah, you are defeated. There is no other way of getting what you want. How is not accepting beneficial to you then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 02:21 PM
3	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. “Admit” You’re telling on yourself here, as if it’s “bad” they like this - because it’s not nerdy you. And yeah, if you ask most women if they prefer the hot confident exciting edgy guy with tattoos and a jacked body OVER the nice studious safe friendly vanilla guy they will absolutely, without any shame, say the first guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 02:19 PM
7	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Every single one of these pieces of media displayed the status quo as being the jock or bad boy has the girls by default Only when the nerd, who was the exception to the rule (thats literally why its a story) with some sort of special quality takes the girl. Watching a film like that and thinking “that’s literally me” and then blaming society for “lying” to you that you’d end up with the girl is mental gymnastics beyond belief	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 02:14 PM
-4	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Why did you think that	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 02:10 PM
1	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Perfectly summarised	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 02:09 PM
0	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Which women	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 02:05 PM
5	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Literally	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 02:04 PM
6	Society did not “lie” to you about what was and wasn’t attractive to women. You are not a “victim”. Victim complex and lack of accountability	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 02:04 PM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise No, a lot of guys are excluded from it but they hear about it because the guys that do it, especially at that age, yell and gloat about it and everyone tries to emulate that guy cos he’s the one finger the hot girl Then those guys either fail to be like him or succeed or whatever, or, they aren’t interested in trying but KNOW him and his friends are the ones getting the girls I’m sorry but this IS not extraordinary. As I said, I can see you maybe being sheltered from this if you were home school…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 11:54 AM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Yea because they talk about it Even if you don’t engage in these things at that age you get told it’s happened Being a twelve year old kid at the start of high school (here in the UK you start at 11) means you’re thrown into a school with hundreds of teenagers - ALL you hear about is sex and drugs and sport and fighting or whatever Yeah if you’re homeschooled by a single mom and she controls all your media then maybe I see why’d you’d think being a nice studious man is the ticket But any normall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 11:15 AM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise I am not describing the top 20 percent male experience The top twenty percent are the attractive ones who get all the women yes But all the other guys SEE this and clock that it’s what the women want They don’t go home and feed their main character syndrome with mommy’s nonsense and rom coms, they go home and look at tits on the family PC and play violent video games or maybe some sport If you’re THAT insulated to reality and for some reason think girls like studying and being nice despite every…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 11:03 AM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise I am not shifting away from nobody lied to you…. NOBODY lied to you Why are you choosing to take what your mother, teacher and female classmates say as gospel and not other guys your age? Why were most other guys not “blindsided” I’m mid thirties and my entire life ALL around me it’s been obvious what attracted women. Multi million dollar brainwashing industry, what like video games and movies….the biggest of which are games like GTA where you sleep with hookers and characters regularly call wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 10:10 AM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise “Victim” there is no victim here Yeah, I’m talking about young men too If you took comfort in effeminate influence or media or were overly coddled by your mother that’s not the norm Boys gravitate towards each other and each others interests, from a very young age. Why would you blindly nod along to what your mother and disney tells you instead of what other boys who you were hanging out with shared? It very much is a choice to take comfort in certain influences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 09:47 AM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise No, you willingly exposed yourself to and took comfort in effeminate media and were potentially a mommys boy. I was born at the very start of the 90’s so I’m mid thirties and literally every guy I know grew up on a diet of GTA, rap and hip hop, and either playing sports, beating each other up for fun or throwing each other out of trees at the age of 12 years old. Guys fingering girl in the toilet at school was just a standard school thing. “I was promised a wife if I studied and was nice” is som…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 09:37 AM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise How has anyone been “scammed”	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 08:34 AM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Almost every post is about men not being able to get the women they think they deserve	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 10:35 PM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Oh i thought he’d just deleted his post lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 09:31 PM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise What do you mean? Has he blocked me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 08:47 PM
5	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise There’s no thing as objectively out of a league These women MAY get these men, they’re usually calm may not. They’re not entitled to It certainly doesn’t mean other men are entitled to these women just because those women have been rejected by their first choice. Are women you find unattractive entitled to you just because some woman you deem your level has been rejected by a more attractive guy but still doesn’t want you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 08:35 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise I have never said I’m a woman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 08:17 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise What entitles you to define their own standards	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 07:28 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Consent - an extreme violation of consent that leads to injury, psychological trauma, unwanted pregnancy, disease Now go on, have the audacity, for SOME reason, to imply that taxation has anything to do with it Because IF YOU DO, you yourself are saying they are morally tied You will be saying one is JUSTIFIED if the other is implemented Because if you don’t say that, then you’re admitting total irrelevance between the two. Your move	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 07:28 PM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Oh wow, WOW now I think I see what you’re trying to do. Ok so in your intellectual “gotcha” fantasy that backfired, how it was supposed to go was like this… Yes, women shouldn’t be made to have sex against their will, because it violates consent, the same way my consent is violated by taxation, won’t you agree? Then I was meant to say “yes, I agree, both rape and taxation are wrong for the same reason (LOL) and therefore maybe you have a point, maybe in a world where we grant women women sexual …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 07:15 PM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise You literally said it was a fact a few comments up	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 07:08 PM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise The moral justification is it is wrong for a woman to be raped or made to have sex with somebody against their will You’re not SERIOUSLY saying there’s a correlation between that and taxation LOL?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 07:07 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise My turn to WHAT? People shouldn’t get raped or be made to have sex with somebody That IS the moral argument - unconditionally	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 06:49 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Go on, explain why it’s even QUESTIONABLE that somebody shouldn’t be raped or made to have sex with somebody they don’t want to	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 06:46 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Why must I present a moral argument Sexual autonomy is to be respected - unconditionally That’s my argument Dunno why you’re arguing about tax like it’s a condition to agree with me or not	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 06:36 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise So your point is forcing people to date each other is not bad? Is that your point? WHY are you insistent on SPECIFICALLY bringing your grievances over tax into this? Your final sentence should be “sexual autonomy has to be respected” That’s it But you then bring up tax, insistently, as if its some sort of CONDITION for you statement on sexual autonomy Is it or condition or is it not? Cos it not, it’s irrelevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 06:31 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Empathy for what	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 06:28 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise OooooK?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 06:22 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Logic does work like that, I explained my point, you explain what part of my logic wasn’t sound Crux of my argument is in both my OP’s that you’ve banged on this weird non-counter point in If you’re implying the moral consistency is important to arguing against my argument for sexual autonomy then you’re literally saying the reverse is true - but you then continue to deny that Moral consistency doesn’t just work ONE way and in the confines of the specific point you’re trying to make Painful at t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 06:22 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Logic does work like that lol I NEVER made “a moral standpoint of violating consent” the crux of my argument though, you have And moral consistency does not equate to believing being taxed is at all relevant to female sexual autonomy, you’ve just pulled that out of your ass to make a very weird purposeless point that achieves and proves nothing	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 06:11 PM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise So it’s not a “fact” then is it	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 06:07 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise You’ve just admitted it’s incomparable And also totally irrelevant to each other And if you’re saying that they ARE comparable and relevant to each other, and that they’re tied morally and that both breaches of consent are bad, then you’re saying the reverse is true, no? Cos if not, you’re literally admitting they’re incomparable and unrelated. So which is it? An absolute pointless comparison that proves nothing. Not a clue why you chose to run with that under baked argument	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 06:00 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise How have we got data if we can’t study it Is this your own person Private classified data	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:50 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Female sexual autonomy and freedom is NOT a “wrong” though. And you being taxed to your glee or dismay is totally irrelevant to that sexual freedom. You’ve created a moral dichotomy that doesn’t even make any sense	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:50 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise They’re immeasurably different violations of consent	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:48 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise It’s not, what’s equality of outcome got to do with dating	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:47 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise If it’s impossible to prove definitively how can you state it’s a fact	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:45 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Ok, well if they can they can	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:45 PM
5	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise You’ve literally said it’s impossible to compile data on it	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:41 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise You are right yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:40 PM
7	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise They’re incomparable violations of consent Are you saying if you have to pay tax against your will, then women should have sexual freedom stripped?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:39 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise I don’t know I’ve not done a survey	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:36 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise I didn’t get owned You keep trying to get me to say that taxation and female sexual autonomy are intrinsically tied based on a principle, of which is simply not true lol And when I ask you to clarify your actual point, you refuse to “Answer the question” Answers the question “No answer it differently” Answers the question “No not like that” Absolute loser.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:33 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise One that far supersedes “tAXaTiOn iS tHeFt”	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:28 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Romantic success is not guaranteed with effort, and should not be achievable with effort. Effort WILL help, but you are not guaranteed success. Just because a man puts a certain amount of work in, doesn’t mean a woman is then bound to forgo her freedom and be with that man simply because he hit an effort quota	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:27 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Government should stay out of dating	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:24 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise My thoughts are regardless of the 80/20 rule, the 50/50 rule, the 1/100 rule, or whatever, it’s totally irrelevant It’s all entirely subjective. We don’t get ranked rated and paired up by some standards god in the sky. So there’s no right or wrong answer, and no entitlement is justified to moan at women to “stay in their lane”	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:22 PM
7	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise If the study isn’t even possible how the hell can you push it as a “fact”	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 04:54 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise But it is literally nobody’s problem to suffer or solve but the individual I feel that’s a very hard thing for people to TRULY accept	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 04:32 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise A grievance to WHO exactly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 04:30 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise “If you agree with women not having to fuck men they don’t want then you should be against taxation” is NOT intellectual consistency At all	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 04:22 PM
–	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise “Men who pay tax should be entitled to sex” Entitlement	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 04:20 PM
1	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I am not referring specifically to men	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 01:45 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves They have no choice to though, what’s the alternative	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 01:45 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves What’s the alternative to acceptance	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 01:44 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves What are you even saying	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 10:48 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves What’s this got to do with somebody accepting their own singleness	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:58 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Ok, well, that’s entirely your choice	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:50 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Ok, well there’s no alternative so what choice do you have	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:32 PM
0	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Acceptance will lead away from negative feelings	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:27 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I will give you that yes Game and PUA and “frame” and persistence is literally gona help you with like 5 percent of your dating problems The grifters VASTLY over sell its effectiveness	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:27 PM
5	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Cool How’s that relevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:25 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves No, both sides of the coin would LITERALLY be Men who can’t find success dating And other side of coin Women who can’t find success dating. My OP applies to both equally	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:08 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I’ve been pretty direct Robbery, bad? Yes! Rape and forcing women into physical and romantic relationships, bad? Yes! Taxation? Not relevant, how is it? Bad? I dunno that’s a very nuanced discussion that’s got nothing to do with my OP	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:06 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves They literally have the freedom to be with those men, yet they are not by choice It does not indicate they were happy with them Brainwashed? Maybe you have been brainwashed by social media too, how do you know you haven’t	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 07:20 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves The exact same logic would be “unattractive women who can’t find a partner or sex should learn to accept it” Thats the DIRECT equivalent to my OP. Not some other thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 07:13 PM
6	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves My OP applies to women too	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 07:10 PM
5	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Yes but they’re MORE happy than they would be if they settled that’s the point	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:59 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I think the fact they are publicly making a concerted effort to reduce debt yet haven’t even put a slight dent in the deficit, and the fact that the country is 36 trillion in debt already, shows that they DONT prioritise balancing the books at ALL “the government wont take on more debt for a program” Like my brother in Christ 36 trillion and counting and that’s with them TRYING to reduce it lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:58 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves They won’t even need to take on debt they’d just cut other minor programs or loophole it The program for coupons for even as much as quarter of the population of men wouldn’t be much of a dent at all The us government is in 36 TRILLION of debt my dude	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:42 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Their standards changed because theirs can Or more accurately, there’s less need for them to tolerate men below the standard of which makes them happy	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:30 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves They don’t raise money for every little program they start Raising money is one of the last ways the government funds things	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:27 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Are you KIDDING me You really think that’s how the government ACTUALLY operates? You know the US has trillions of debt right? You know programs get debated and cut and repurposed and cut all the time Like, I dunno if this is pure naivety at this point Almost all of political debate and hell, entire elections are based on the fact that that’s NOT how the government works when it comes to spending	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:25 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves They were not though How much have your preferences and standards changed? And now women have the freedom to NOT be with those people they aren’t attracted to	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:14 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Wow you REALLY don’t understand government spending, economics and politics/geopolitics on a real world level do you…. No wonder you came at me with “let’s say your taxes raise by ten percent” in your fictional scenario lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:13 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Robbery is bad Women being made to have sex against their own free will is bad What ACTUALLY is your POINT???	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:10 PM
6	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Men and women are susceptible and exposed and have access to exactly the same media I don’t think deleting instagram and tinder will make anybody truly desire a man they are currently not attracted to viscerally	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:06 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Yes robbery is bad indeed Ok, what’s your point?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:05 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I would simply not be paying more taxes Only in your financially illiterate fake scenario am I paying more taxes	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:01 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I can actually, one is rape, the other is another issue that you’ve chosen to ham fistedly try and tie onto it	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 06:00 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves No, it’s settling if they don’t want to really be with that person. It’s not like anybody is totally entitled to be with somebody “objectively” within their league just because of their own sexual buying power in comparison to theirs. You can be of total equivalence value wise but if somebody isn’t happy with the deal then they won’t sell because they don’t want to. You can’t make them if they choose not to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:59 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves You’re question is totally irrelevant to fiscal reality though Why would I not accept it? If it gets prostitutes more work that they’re happy to take on and sexless men a release then yeah. And based on very very very very basic maths it won’t put a DENT in anybody elses pockets	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:57 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves It’s settling	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:55 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I do not agree with that, no I think the two issues are intrinsically not relevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:54 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves How is it realistic to think that in the united states such an initiative would cost 310 billion a year, based on your ten percent figure And why do you not understand that government spending almost never correlates to actual taxation And if everyone involved in this government sex initiative is doing it willingly, what’s the problem	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:52 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I think you keep saying I’m dodging your question because I’m not saying the exact answer you want me to say It’s as if you’ve just discovered what a straw man argument is or something…. “Sexual freedom” “Ah well, freedom and taxation” …..ok?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:47 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I keep answering and it keeps highlighting the irrelevance How about you answer for me and show me HOW it’s relevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:39 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves It never would cause that big a jump in taxation. It would probably, like most government spending, not lead to a change in taxation policy at all. You’re resorting to a scenario that’s literally never gona happen Why are you having to do that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:38 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I think whether women are denied sexual autonomy has no relevance to taxation or whether you believe taxation is theft	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:36 PM
1	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Yeah, so? What’s your point	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:34 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I have almost zero power besides one vote as to what my taxes go on	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:32 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves And if they’re willingly enduring that, then think how miserable settling must be for them	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:32 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Yes, two wrongs don’t make a right So how the fuck are they relevant Women should have sexual autonomy - that’s “right” and that’s literally the end of that issue Your taxation stuff is for a totally different sub reddit let alone this thread	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:29 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves No, the direct equivalent to my premise in the OP is women who can’t attract a partner willingly should learn to accept it. Which is true, I believe that	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:27 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves “Imagine” Why? Why am I having to answer for you by imagining how “burn it all down” plays out in reality Ok I’ve imagined it, it’s not happening. What other points	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:26 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves It is accepted, because it’s happening Who is gona be violent? All the guys who don’t get sex versus the ones that do? lol Let’s see how that goes	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:25 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Yeah, and there’s no government enforcement of sex And if there was - via sex coupons - cool. You’d never notice it in your tax or income statement any more than you would notice Lockheed Martins weekly invoice for plane tyres	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:24 PM
1	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Ok so what you’re saying is, to be consistent with your own principle That if your money is taken against your will, and you do not consent to that, then sexual freedom should be void If you’re not saying that, and that there is no correlation, then what is literally your point	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:21 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I am literally refuting your non arguments	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:18 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves WHY would they get with men who are “similar” to them (subjective) if they are MORE happy alone or chasing other men who they’d rather chase? Not happy because you’re only getting some attention and time and sex from men you actually want, or perpetually miserable because you’re with a guy who doesn’t do it for you at all? They’re exercising their free will to do the former. Which in and of itself is the answer	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:17 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves How, nothing is going to change	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:14 PM
5	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves If ugly men bitch loud enough all it does is make those who bitch look less appealing Women haven’t stopped dating or sleeping with the men they want to What exactly is your position	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:13 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Dude you act like MULTI BILLION dollar initiatives and schemes and programs aren’t greenlit almost every single day Government prostitution coupon schemes won’t make the slightest ripple in how government spending affects you	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:09 PM
1	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves No you can’t take something that belongs to me without consent	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:06 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I’m saying, if you are perpetually single and no amount of effort is changing that - then your own happiness has no other option BUT to accept your singledom There is no reality where you make other people lower their standarda	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:05 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves They don’t have to give up They can keep trying to improve and become attractive and meet the right person, for sure	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:04 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves So you’re now having to move the goalposts to imagining a post nuclear war society OR - as is relevant to our actual reality Accept and come to peace with your singledom OR continue to work towards becoming attractive OR just wallow in anger that in reality is going to hurt only you and change nothing	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:02 PM
5	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Why “should” they stay in their own lane, if they don’t have to? What does “lane” even mean? If a woman doesn’t make an effort and nobody is attracted to her, then exactly the same principle applies to her as I state in my OP, she should accept or get better	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 05:00 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I don’t agree to pay more taxes, I don’t agree to pay less taxes. If tax money is spent on that one day, that’s a political and economic issue, isn’t it Still not “entitled” to it	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:58 PM
1	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Yes, consent across the board No, women shouldn’t have to have sex or be in a relationship with anyone they don’t want to REGARDLESS of your separate issue with taxation To imply there is a correlation is implying they ate intrinsically tied and therefore there’s an intrinsic and correlating solution or principle - my question to you then is, if you have to pay taxes, as you do now, do you still think women should have autonomy of choice when it comes to who has sex with them or not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:53 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Hey if the prostitutes are consenting to being paid for sex then sure let people spend their coupons If it’s “you, woman, must give this man sex for free against your will for the good of society” then it would be insane if I have to tell you why thats wrong and why its never gona happen	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:50 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Ok, so Trump got voted in It’s not affecting dating one bit How would making others more miserable make you more happy? How would that look?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:48 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves To your last question - how are your qualms with democracy and the economy relevant to forced relationships? Are you saying if you have to pay taxes you should be allowed to rape women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:46 PM
7	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves They squirm because they’re not attracted Blah blah blah clothes, make up, ok cool, irrelevant, they exist. Don’t date people who wear clothes and make up then you totally have the freedom to do that If capable of better women, date better women then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:45 PM
5	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I’m not the one “imagining” burning it all down Mentally checking out? Ok - so - totally inconsequential to society lol, possibly actually preferred The benefit is your own happiness. The alternative is not accepting and not being happy	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:42 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves So you’re agreeing with my OP	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:40 PM
8	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I say predominantly men The same principle in OP applies to women too, yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:39 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves If their “league” isn’t something they want then they’re not going to “come back to reality” It’s not “reality”. Reality is whatever they can attain for themselves. If that’s simply situationships and singledom, modern society certainly has made that much more comfortable than “coming back to reality” and squirming every time the man you’re compromising for gets into bed next to you	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:37 PM
7	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves If their “league” isn’t something they want then they’re not going to “come back to reality” It’s not “reality”. Reality is whatever they can attain for themselves. If that’s simply situationships and singledom, modern society certainly has made that much more comfortable than “coming back to reality” and squirming every time the man you’re compromising for gets into bed next to you	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:33 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves It does apply to everyone	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:30 PM
6	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I’m not telling people to be miserable I’m LITERALLY telling people to be the opposite, to accept Unless you’re suggesting that somehow NOT accepting is going to lead to another outcome besides misery?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:30 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Cool Totally irrelevant to dating	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:29 PM
6	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Lol Firstly, how Secondly, what, so that strong men will take all the women in the ruins anyway?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:27 PM
7	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Yes I even state women in my OP Exactly the same principle	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:26 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Its not punching down, my OP is literally a recommendation for people to deal with the reality of their singledom	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:25 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Even if you could force people to date each other, which is never gona happen - those people will just cheat or dead bedroom or have relationships simply not worth having Literally DO it if you have the utility to force that policy, but you’ll have to wind the clock back on everything else also which is never gona happen And forcing people to date each other is immoral because you’re making one person endure rape	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:23 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Like what	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:19 PM
5	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves What even would that challenge look like?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:11 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves I am op	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:10 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves There’s no “change” that’s going to happen though This is it	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:10 PM
6	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves How’s it relevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:09 PM
3	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves How is that relevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:08 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves It won’t	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:08 PM
1	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves It’s 2025 not 2006 Nobody has the excuse of being “misled” anymore And even if you were……So?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:07 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves How am I a hypocrite I’ve already stated that taxation and sexual/relationship freedom are totally unrelated on any level and one opinion on one is totally irrelevant to the other	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:07 PM
1	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Well what even is your “mind” , what is your stance?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 04:05 PM
4	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves If you’re mature, based and not a fundamentally selfish person you’ll learn to accept and find happiness another way You’re not a child. So don’t act like it. Historically and currently many people gracefully live with much worse than singledom	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 03:53 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Consistently applying moral principles, is irrelevant Theres no argument involving moral consistency where anything but acceptance is your only choice as someone who nobody is attracted to This isn’t a recommendation to SOCIETY, it’s a recommendation to unsuccessful men and women in dating - accept or essentially suffer	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 03:51 PM
2	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves What’s the alternative to acceptance? Depression and hate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 03:48 PM
5	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves In a totally libertarian or anarchic society where taxation doesn’t exist you’d arguably have even more singledom so it’s a totally void form of passive blackmail to insinuate that sex or relationships should be redistributed because taxation exists lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 03:42 PM
6	People who are unsuccessful at dating should learn to accept it, and be mature enough to not wrongly blame anybody but themselves Your comment, meant as sarcasm, is literally not wrong though lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 03:40 PM
11	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Why is discussing looks censored on this sub reddit when it’s literally 90 percent of what matters in dating? How can you discuss dating without discussing by far the most influential factor?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 12:18 PM
-1	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Their wives are not mostly happy my guy	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 04:35 PM
7	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences You’re also older than the entire internet	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 04:32 PM
0	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences By the very stat itself less than 80 percent of men have sex more than one a year dude, its terrible So not EVEN 80 percent of men can claim sex in the past 6 months? Looool	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 04:30 PM
1	Women feel they are the same value as any guy they have sex with How on gods green earth do you dickmax	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 04:15 PM
14	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences If the stat was better than it sounded, a better version of the stat would be presented Instead the absolute best way to present the information is “80 percent of men get laid at least once a year” A self own statistic, thanks, I’m using that one going forward	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 01:12 PM
11	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Laid at least once a year? 80 percent chance? YAAAAAY My god	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 01:06 PM
2	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences No dude nothing about that stat is optimistic or positive lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 01:00 PM
16	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Wow they got laid once in a year, lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 12:31 PM
2	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Dude this isn’t about me I have a girlfriend lol It’s about the dating age average men now	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 12:30 PM
10	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences A man can be afraid or absolutely bursting with optimism it literally will not change their luck on dating apps lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 12:04 PM
2	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences It’s like I’m literally watching you discover the redpill in real time	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 12:03 PM
1	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences The average guy, most guys, strike out with women constantly and it’s simply because there are better options who are at least on a surface level presenting themselves as a possibility to the majority of women	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:55 AM
2	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Expect it or not it’s literally just what happens regardless lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:54 AM
8	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Because a select few guys sleep with and date the majority of women on rotation	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:47 AM
1	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences No, forgive me I thought you were saying that you sought out healthy options as opposed to the algorithm dragging you a certain way And i was asking what would the healthy equivalent be for men looking to improve their success with women	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:46 AM
1	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Literally none of this is relevant to the OP which outlines a guy before he even discovers redpill After red pill SOME of them start getting more results	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:40 AM
6	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences It’s not crap for women If you are a woman who is not overweight or distinctly ugly and you swipe right on men with dad bods youre simply gona get loads of matches You’re defeating your own point	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:36 AM
7	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Everyone is average amongst their peers, that’s how peers are defined	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:34 AM
1	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences That’s not what I asked lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:34 AM
3	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Unfortunately for most men it’s D tier treatment or nothing	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:32 AM
1	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Ok, and what would the “healthy” stuff say to these men, lol?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:13 AM
7	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Why would you, a singular woman redditor’s preference for a “dad bod” whatever than means have ANY implication on my points made about general physical attraction? Do you WANT stats from me lol or do you wanna bug out now	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:11 AM
4	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences My sister in Christ if you are INTO gaming and into men who game you are not the average Jane I’m sorry - your dating landscape is totally different	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:08 AM
2	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences 66 percent of men below 30 are single pal And their relationships are vanilla at best And the red pill and manosphere is growing I don’t see why you can’t accept the simple ass reality	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 11:06 AM
4	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Once again, you’re getting it ass backwards The dating failures, sometimes years of it, happens FIRST and its the average run of the mill guy that this is happening to Some may be awkward, like all demographics, but they’re mostly just not exciting or dangerous enough - or good looking enough to afford to be very forward sexually It’s a cause and effect thing. I’m talking about why men seek out this content. Perfectly normal average men who just aren’t quite cutting it in a world where one thous…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 10:48 AM
2	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences I’m stating why they seek out this content to start with	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 10:45 AM
3	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences I’m sure you’re a lovely interesting bunch of people (not sarcasm I mean that genuinely) But the average man is not going to history clubs lol He likes some sports, video games, and a beer or two each week	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 10:44 AM
9	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences I mean they think that you need to get your body in the best shape as possible because it appeals to the widest possible scope of women Immutable traits So like, that lanky skinny guy with the brown eyes and brown hair and pale skin who kind looks a bit like johnny depp and has an alternative style Yes, he may seem “niche” at first glance. But he’s literally just a tall good looking guy lol. 6 months training and a hair cut and a change of wardrobe and he’s literally just plain old chad	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 10:42 AM
18	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences 66 percent of men below 30 are single chief	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 10:20 AM
16	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences What’s gym bro got to do with anything? It’s 2025 - immutable traits are where it’s at	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 10:13 AM
7	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Even if he DOES have “incel” idealism He doesn’t start out like that. Average men with average looks do “fine” with women, ye Lukewarm reception and sparse opportunity And they don’t START OUT following redpill stuff, most “chads” are blue pilled because they literally just walk through life like “this is easy” when it comes to dating You’re getting it all ass backwards	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 10:13 AM
8	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Taking up a hobby to find a woman is A : creepy B : literally never works 1980’s style advice	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 09:40 AM
9	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Nope. They’re the average height, not ugly, relatively normal guy who looks after himself and rents an apartment and has a decentish job who isn’t fat but isn’t obsessed with the gym who has hit or has almost hit thirty who started wondering why absolutely every single dating prospect that doesn’t reject them ghosts them or gives them the “you’re a great guy and I love hanging around with you” talk after a few weeks It’s not gremlins making up the bulk of the redpill. It’s your average guy who r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 09:39 AM
9	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Its full of those men because they were once average unassuming men once who went looking for answers	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 09:28 AM
7	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Im willing to be most men on here have dating experience that echoes the one outlined in my OP	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 09:24 AM
5	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Its not a self fulfilling prophecy or an assumption- this is what I mean It’s simply FACT you’re probably low on her list of options if you’re an average man, or even above average	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 09:23 AM
14	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Yes because they see a good looking guy with no bio and swipe right and probably match	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 09:22 AM
2	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences Apps work very well for some people who have absolutely terrible chat	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 09:02 AM
6	The term “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you” applies to dating. The average man will mostly only have negative experiences I literally state apps and real life	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/25 08:45 AM
–	Woke isn't coming back she also had a penis	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 05:19 PM
3	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help Lots of drink and drugs?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 05:13 PM
–	Woke isn't coming back I dunno I think it will They feel truly like the under dog again so they’ll get more rabid	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 02:00 PM
2	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help Just stop dating	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 01:59 PM
8	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help Dude, it’s not “really hurts” each time it’s COMPOUNDING why can’t you grasp this	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 01:36 PM
9	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help I’m absolutely not advocating being a misogynist troll	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 12:06 PM
4	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help Yeah?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 11:11 AM
10	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help What unhealthy thought patterns? It’s the years and years of poor outcomes that lead to negativity	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 10:53 AM
14	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help I’m not on about me personally But rejection after rejection and negative outcome after negative outcome for perfectly normal guys will result in accumulated trauma, how would it not	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 10:52 AM
7	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help And it often ends horribly	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 10:40 AM
15	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help Its not ptsd every time a woman doesn’t date you, it’s years upon years of negative feedback from the world, even if it’s minor each and every time. It’s compounding.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 10:33 AM
6	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help Its not NOT acting weird as hell that most people have trouble with. You can act totally normal, and friendly and adjusted but it’s not enough of a hook because excitement is triggered by behaviour that would actually be deemed unhealthy by many.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 10:31 AM
5	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help So “avoid dating”	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 10:28 AM
4	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help Any rejection will be traumatic. Whether than be on a micro level or macro level. Your brain is broken if it’s not. Rejection after rejection after rejection is micro trauma compounded. Trauma isn’t necessarily just one horrific scarring event. Trauma can be something you don’t even know you have. Boiled from analogy etc	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 10:13 AM
6	Telling people who have failed at, or had trauma due to dating, to just act “normal” like they haven’t had trauma or experienced failure, is NOT going to help A psychotherapist will not help you fix the problem of not being attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/25 10:10 AM
1	The orgasm gap is because women genuinely need fantasy level attraction towards the man they’re having sex with and physical stimulation At least 97	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/25 09:16 PM
-1	The orgasm gap is because women genuinely need fantasy level attraction towards the man they’re having sex with and physical stimulation If you’re thinking about your grocery list whilst having sex he’s not the one	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/25 09:31 AM
-4	The orgasm gap is because women genuinely need fantasy level attraction towards the man they’re having sex with and physical stimulation Ye which is why women are super picky	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/25 09:03 AM
1	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. I highly doubt you’re hitting anything redditor	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/25 07:06 AM
1	Women and men behave exactly the same in dating, it’s just women get more opportunity to act cold and selfish so it’s thought to be “their nature” Its down to the individual to make yourself attractive	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/25 08:37 PM
9	Women only care about men's issues when the ramifications of it starts affecting them directly. Men at the same time are expected to acknowledge female struggles and if men show an indifference towards plights of women, they ae shamed and guilted into conforming Whats this got to do with dating	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 08:31 PM
0	Most men won't succeed on dating apps Yeah maybe, suppose we’re all still playing the game. Its a live experiment happening now. Nobody has finished or lost yet, so there’s no feeling of remorse or regret - so we’re all still chasing who we want	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 07:49 PM
2	How come women dont realize how hard is it for men to get laid ? Well I’d say a good chunk of em	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 07:24 PM
0	Most men won't succeed on dating apps Its not unhinged Its literally because they now have access to more than those men at the local bar or workplace. It really was settling for what was about until very recently. Now it really is a case of oh, I can hold out for what I ACTUALLY find truly attractive now	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 07:23 PM
9	How come women dont realize how hard is it for men to get laid ? A man nobody wants to fuck….	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 07:21 PM
1	Most men won't succeed on dating apps Well if nobody wants to date them they are surplus in regards to the dating market….	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 07:20 PM
8	How come women dont realize how hard is it for men to get laid ? Wild? You know ALL women are not your mommy right? Why would anybody care if unfuckable guys aint fucking?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 06:32 PM
2	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. The “you dont believe it because you’ve probably never had it happen” is true I think. I think an awful lot of guys can’t comprehend that a select few men get as much attention as a hot woman	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 06:00 PM
2	Most men won't succeed on dating apps Incorrect They don’t suppress genuinely high value (as decided by the other side) profiles because it’s the high value profiles that keep people swiping. If you’re a guy and not getting matches it’s because people are seeing your profile and swiping left	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 05:52 PM
1	Most men won't succeed on dating apps Exactly. Theres a LOT of surplus males in regards to the dating market and we’re figuring out in real time how to deal with that as a society	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 05:07 PM
2	Most men won't succeed on dating apps This is not true Women just have the freedom now to date only those who they are actually attracted to Turns out men DRASTICALLY over estimated how many of them would make that cut	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 05:04 PM
1	Most men won't succeed on dating apps Lol this is not true at all	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 04:42 PM
1	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. Yes and it doesn’t work, she needs to be authentically attracted	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 03:18 PM
–	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. Cos how can I discuss with a parody?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 03:16 PM
–	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. Cos your entire account looks like a parody	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 03:12 PM
1	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. Maybe they just come off that way naturally Narcissism and game/pursuing a woman are not mutually exclusive I’d imagine a lot of naturally alluring men are narcissistic	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 03:11 PM
0	Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side piece She’ll have had better, you kinda know it too Insane you’re tryna convince a redditor it was the best she’s had Do you really think the guy who gave her the best piv she’s ever had is arguing about it on reddit? It aint you king	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 03:10 PM
1	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. What kinda flair is that	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 03:08 PM
-1	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. Your comment is unclear This also isn’t an advice sub	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 02:21 PM
0	Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side piece Not really You’re desperate for me to believe it too which doesn’t bode well for it’s authenticity	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 01:37 PM
0	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. How’s that relevant?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 01:36 PM
3	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. Poor retort She likes naturals. Game is fighting up hill and they can all smell imposters. It’s just a biological thing	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 12:13 PM
2	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. Ye and you find him attractive from the get go	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 11:57 AM
2	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. Yes she does. He is just a guy she’s attracted to who is super at ease around her 9 times out of 10 who isn’t that phased by her but eventually gives HER a shot because she passively makes it happen. That guy reading seduction techniques between sets is inherently obvious to anybody. “I’ll lay off texting her for a few days, I’ll make a cocky joke and then walk away for a while to create the illusion of distance” is firing blanks, it works when she’s feeling crap in herself because she can kind …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 11:56 AM
3	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. He doesn’t. And she can sense that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 11:49 AM
0	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. It always crumbles eventually	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 11:45 AM
7	Women are turned off by any proactive behaviour by a man two impress or date a woman. They only respond well to naturals. Its not game, he’s not trying or aware it’s unfolding	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 11:44 AM
6	Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side piece Okie dokie	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/25 10:02 PM
3	Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side piece She was	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/25 07:43 PM
1	Women and men behave exactly the same in dating, it’s just women get more opportunity to act cold and selfish so it’s thought to be “their nature” You are simply larping. No 1 percentile man is arguing on the purple pill reddit lol If you know enough women, and know enough men, both with and without options, you’ll know that sex has nothing to do with it. Man with options, woman with options, tend to treat people as disposable Man without options, women without options, tend to treat each and every prospect with more value. Women tend to have more options. So more of them tend to treat men as disposable. There are also some that don’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/25 04:57 PM
3	Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side piece Guaranteed you didn’t give her the best	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/25 04:29 PM
–	Why do men stare? You do give off the vibe you’re larping about a fake wife tbf	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/25 03:28 PM
–	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails An awful lot of it was simply a product. Its basically 90 percent “this is the hard reality” with a 10 percent “but this is how you defy the odds” at the end of which is the monetised bit	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 02:30 PM
1	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails My point is in my OP You gotta have the goods	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 02:28 PM
–	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Dude im not complaining about anything	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 02:17 PM
2	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Muscles, Rollo, seduction What is this, a night club perv excursion in a 2011 youtube video Approach approach approach! Lol Youve just gotta have those hot immutable traits and lots of friends and ideally money and be able talk to a human being, anything more is just, y’know	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 02:16 PM
6	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails You can just lumber and loom around as an attractive guy and as long as you dont offend or creep out you can always have a decent girl on the go. But I mean, almost clumsily attractive. Like, just can’t help look good kinda attractive. Not Mr 5 foot 10 works out like crazy and wears fitted t shirts and gets his hair cut often attractive. I mean, big tall good looking guy who could skip a haircut for months and wear a super troopers t shirt and yet is somehow just hot, that kinda guy	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 02:01 PM
7	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Ye money does increase attraction on a material level, but not raw visceral attraction. Muscles? I guess….a bit 2016 though Height and face should replace muscles. “He looks like he’s wearing his body” is my favourite quote ive heard from a girl in reference to a mid height uglish guy who was jacked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 01:58 PM
–	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Pretty much summed up	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 01:56 PM
1	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Yeah but you have to kinda have the goods Why should anyone, especially a dating age woman in 2025, give a guy with very little to show for himself a shot because “oh he’s tenacious” What in the 1950’s technicolor capitalist is this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 01:55 PM
1	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Yes and it tends to be with people are very similar authentic value to them	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 01:26 PM
7	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Lifting makes sense But the idea you can charm your way into women’s pants you otherwise wouldn’t be able to is condescending to women. Its like you can jedi mind trick your way into sex with them. No, they like attractive men, no BS	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 01:17 PM
–	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Proper boomer type shii	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 01:15 PM
2	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Most women aren’t on dating apps at any one time. They’re mostly on there for a short period as they quickly secure a situationship and sometimes relationships very quickly	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:58 PM
1	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Yeah you get those reference experiences (countless rejections)	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:56 PM
–	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Cringe	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:45 PM
1	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Yes it makes you sensitive No, women do not like sensitive men who don’t like being said to be “replaced” I am not a woman, me saying women shouldn’t be objectified does not make me sensitive. I, as a man, do not care if I’m objectified or the term “replaced” is used in reference to a partner of mine finding somebody new.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:42 PM
4	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Your questions are not coherent	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:36 PM
1	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Why is my post going to get deleted	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:36 PM
7	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails I’m not ok with objectifying women. Whats that got to do with anything	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:33 PM
–	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails She’s not skipping chad for you because he’s a 30 minute drive away and you’re negging her with a playful grin pal	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:33 PM
6	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails No	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:32 PM
6	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Literally just needs to reach into her pocket and pull out her phone and there’s a billion men there	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:27 PM
7	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Sensitive	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:25 PM
5	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails If a woman has a preference for men above average height, being 5’4 is not something you can compensate for with any amount of swagger	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:18 PM
3	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails Well they literally are who decides what an attractive man is within the heterosexual dynamic because they’re the ones who have to be attracted to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 12:07 PM
13	One thing red pill gets wrong is “fake it til you make it” and “behaviour is attractive”. Nah, you’ve literally gotta have the goods to back it up or it fails What else do you call it	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/25 11:58 AM
8	Women and men behave exactly the same in dating, it’s just women get more opportunity to act cold and selfish so it’s thought to be “their nature” A very attractive man can absolutely live the life of a princess and it’s not something he struggles internally to settle into either. Its all dictated by demand and how valuable you just existing is to others	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/25 11:38 AM
4	If you somehow managed to convince women to universally lower their standards you’d just have much more competition and the relationship would be awful Because that arrangement is absolutely miserable for the woman	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/25 12:20 PM
1	If you somehow managed to convince women to universally lower their standards you’d just have much more competition and the relationship would be awful Yes, but everything I said in my original post would still apply to that	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/25 12:18 PM
1	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. ok?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 08:55 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Freedom is not violated when men gain access to legal sex, I never said it was? Its nobodys fault when somebody isn’t able to get consensual sex. Especially not those who don’t want to have sex with that person. Freedom has NOTHING to do with whether men not having sex or not is a good thing, how many times do I have to say freedom does not mean guarantee of positive outcome?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 08:54 PM
1	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. ok But that scenario is so irrelevant to reality it’s not even a point worth making. What you gona do. Deport all women to the Phillappines?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 08:40 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Its never freedom when anyone has non consensual sex, I’ve never said that. It’s a problem for them yes but it’s nobody elses problem. It doesn’t infringe on anybody elses rights or freedoms. Its nobody elses fault that they’re sexless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 08:09 PM
1	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. No its not, it tends to be the exact reverse of that	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 08:07 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with The language barrier is a struggle here but I appreciate you’re trying. Women have the right to deny ANY man sex. No man has the right to violate a woman’s bodily autonomy by having sex with her if she doesn’t want it. That’s freedom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 07:57 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with It is freedom if somebody is without sex if nobody consensually wants to have sex with them HOW hard is that to understand? Freedom does not mean a positive outcome. You can be lonely and without a single possession and still be free	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 07:46 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with You can die of cancer and be perfectly free….yes I don’t think you quite understand what freedom is. Freedom does not mean a guaranteed positive outcome. A man wandering the desert alone with absolutely nothing is MORE free than a man in paradise wearing handcuffs and following orders	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 07:44 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with It is freedom that people are without sex. Just because you want something and cant have it doesnt mean your freedom is violated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 06:58 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with This makes no sense	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 06:57 PM
8	The fact that some men won’t find a partner is fueling unhealthy coping mechanisms & belief systems Nobody is saying they owe anything	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 06:57 PM
0	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with It is freedom if men are left without sex if nobody wants to have sex with them Sex requires two people consenting	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 06:46 PM
0	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with A man is only deprived of sex if somebody restrains him or his consensual sexual partner. If by “deprived” you mean nobody wants to have sex with him, then no, his freedoms are not being infringed upon	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 06:45 PM
0	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. Yes i agree with those two points	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 06:43 PM
26	The fact that some men won’t find a partner is fueling unhealthy coping mechanisms & belief systems Ok here’s the breakdown of male loneliness Is it deserved? No, the same way being born disabled or being born in a third world country isn’t “deserved” by those who experience it Is it something to show sympathy and empathy for? Of course! Is there a solution to it? Yes, that person works to make themselves more attractive. Is that solution GUARANTEED a positive outcome? No Is it anybody else’s fault? No. Does anybody else owe them sex and companionship? No.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 05:42 PM
39	Men need to be aware that they are easily replaceable My guy in the anecdote does not care that she replaced him She asked him the past few days and he couldn’t? SHE asked him? He’s attractive and as a man who has the luxury of being asked out by a woman definitely has other options on the go lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 05:33 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with No, its not freedom when someone has to have sex with people they dislike, because its not consensual	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 05:30 PM
0	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. Women were not genuinely in love with the common working man lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 05:29 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Ok?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 05:28 PM
0	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with No, freedom in this context is a womans right to say no and not have sex with somebody she doesn’t want to. If there is a man and nobody on planet earth wants consensual sex with him, then that guys not gona be having sex without a gross violation of somebody’s bodily autonomy. Sucks to be him but thats the truth. And it applies across all of society. So men who nobody wants to have sex with, yeah, thats it until you can get someone to want it with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 04:45 PM
0	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with It works exactly the same backwards yes, if no man wants to have sex with a particular woman. There is literally NOTHING selfish about a woman not having sex with somebody.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 04:42 PM
0	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Literally just think women absolutely should have the freedom to not have a penis belonging to a man they’re not attracted to inside their vagina If that caused a “problem” for some men then those men need to reevaluate whats going on	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 04:14 PM
0	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. No you fool, what im saying is that if you put an average looking guy next to a physically attractive man, and they both do the same task and the hot guy fumbles it but the average guy doesn’t, and you then ask women which man is more physically attractive, then they will say the PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE man is hotter They may be more impressed by the average guys competence, or even believe him to be a better relationship prospect, but they’re biologically attracted to the hot guy Your unwarranted…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 04:12 PM
0	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Its a problem for that particular man yes, but nobody else, as if it was a problem for somebody else that person would have sex with them	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 04:08 PM
0	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Its a problem for the store But by definition of nobody going to that store its not a problem for anybody else	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 04:07 PM
9	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. Well unfortunately they will not experience that. There’s no “end” to how good or bad your luck can be. You’re not really guaranteed anything in life. You could be born the son of a billionaire and have amazing genetics You could be a cripple born in gaza and never touch a woman and die a horrible death very young An average man living a life of solitude in the western world but with relative comfort is actually probably quite high on the scale of “how good do I have it”	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 04:05 PM
1	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. Imagine being in a relationship with a woman who lowered her standards for you lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 03:06 PM
3	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. I’m not weirdly defensive, you’re weirdly defensive about claiming the contrary. Ask any woman aged 18 to 35 on the street and they’ll say they like attractive men. Its not some weird conspiracy. Its not even slightly out dated, its VERY out dated to think any given young woman will be like “i dont care how hot they are if theyre funny and just themselves” if you ask them. Nobody had penalised young women for liking attractive men for years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 03:05 PM
5	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. Its not bullshit, anyone can say “you’re talking bullshit” as a lazy counter argument Physical attraction is literally based on your body and face, your physical self A man can act in ways that are attractive and be attractive in their actions and words, but physical attraction is literally what it says on the tin.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 03:01 PM
2	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. If beauty standards are manipulated to encompass “more” men or traits that are easier to attain/less rare, (not sure hoe you think thats possible but ok) then all that’s going to happen is inflation. Now there’s WAY more competition and women always go for the best they can get. They don’t sit there and go “i’m average so I should be happy with average” they literally pool to the top then compromise bit by bit until they settle or just opt out and stay single	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 02:59 PM
5	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. No it literally doesn’t It makes them higher value and a more attractive prospect but the man himself is not more physically or sexually attractive, his assets are	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 02:51 PM
5	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. No, it does not add to their physical attractiveness lol. It adds to their value sure, but not their sexual attractiveness. Those are two totally different things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 02:50 PM
5	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. No, sitting inside a nice car does not make a man more physically attractive to women. It does not. More materially attractive, but not physically attractive. An ugly woman with a PS5 Pro in her hands saying “come here boy and push my buttons and I’ll let you push these buttons” may be more materialistically attractive to me but shes not making me any harder by associating herself with an inanimate object which is all a car is	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 02:29 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with But they can find that anywhere, and would much more than likely be happier alone. The sheer amount of women who say “i regret not leaving him sooner”	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 02:10 PM
6	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. No its not. This is like a plasma tv from 2003 with an image burned in. Sorry, if “I just want women to be honest!” Is the complaint you like to hang on, cos it’s out dated. They are honest. They like attractive man. There is no stigma or hiding this going on. It’s been open discourse for YEARS by now. Yes women like attractive men and are open about it. Now what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 02:03 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with I literally said why Maybe they feel its best for the kids, maybe she doesn’t have the support system to go it alone, maybe it’s the familiarity and lack of courage to leave, maybe the guy is abusive, maybe SHE is abusive and sticks around because she gets satisfaction from that dynamic. There’s many reasons why people stay in relationships they don’t have sexual interest in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 02:01 PM
2	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. I’m sorry but I actually want to push back on this. Dating age men in the western world between ages 18 - 35, no, you DON’T see many average or short men in relationships day to day. It’s definitely dwindling. Older middle aged couples yeah, from a by gone era. But that’s just the way it is. Individuals need to become better than average, that’s the solution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 01:55 PM
6	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. Name one	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 01:45 PM
3	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. This is the answer	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 01:44 PM
9	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. Adonis looks like a 2025 calvein klein male model Society cannot influence women enough to find unattractive traits in men attractive. It’s a total myth. Poor women in struggling times saw fat men and thought “money, food” they didn’t get wet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 01:43 PM
5	There is nothing society nor anybody else can do to make any given individual more attractive to another. The answer is in the individual themselves. If you don’t know that by 2025 then you’re heads in the sand Maybe it was being denied 15 years ago but not this generation lol, the stigma of women wanting attractive men and hiding that died years ago. It’s a huge complaint the manosphere makes constantly that just seems like it’s lagged massively or something as it’s simply not relevant now	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 01:39 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with A woman having sex with a partner she doesn’t find attractive and only benefiting basic company from that man will not stay with that man for those things. There’s possibly not a single example of that and if so it’s extremely extremely rare, like, last man on a desert island rare. Being alone will be preferable to that for sure. They would not be trading in bad sex for basic company and companionship. They find that elsewhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 01:21 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Take me seriously? You’re suggesting that “women having sex with people they don’t want to isn’t really all that bad and shouldn’t be an issue” as the alternative. You’re suggesting THAT as the stance to take seriously are you lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 12:33 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Dunno, high chance they’re cheating though	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/25 01:24 AM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Not stupid, there are just other things they see value in the relationship. Relationships become an institution sometimes with lots of investments made	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 10:33 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with The answers no	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 09:36 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Friends and family fill that void more than a man who probably wants to have sex with her more than she does him	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 09:10 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with If they’re not attracted then they’re not there for the sex, if it was just the sex on offer yes, they would yeet. Women do not stay around for less than mediocre sex, if there’s nothing else being offered. They one hundred percent prefer to be alone	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 08:18 PM
0	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Who knows why they chose it POOR choice but it was their choice. Maybe it’s a transactional relationship, who knows	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 07:19 PM
1	It is acceptable, even congratulated, sometimes, for a woman to be 'masculine', bot for a man to be 'feminine'. Its easy to be feminine, hard to be masculine	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 07:00 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Key factor being THEY CHOSE to do so	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 06:59 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Who knows, many reasons, but if they have the freedom to leave and chose not to then that’s their own mistake to make	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 06:11 PM
-1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with I think Woman A should be allowed to have sex with the Man entirely based on her own choice and Woman B should fuck off I think Woman A’s lack of enthusiasm for sex with the man is due to finding him unattractive. I think it’s entirely within his power to change this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 05:42 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Ok? Yeah, probably, and?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 05:26 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with They don’t just want a man with good character they obviously want a man with good character who they’re attracted to Why would they NOT want to be attracted to them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 05:17 PM
3	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Its men she is attracted to Like, why would that be omitted. “Yeah I just want a nice good man who does’t abuse me, don’t care if they’re attractive or not” How often is that ever said	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 05:10 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Dude you’re just retroactively making up things you said now that I’ve not answered You don’t have a point	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 04:50 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with “Help bear the construction cost” is not the same as “allowing a penis into my vagina that I don’t want to be there” Like. At all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 04:47 PM
9	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with She said no because she’s not attracted Thats it	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 04:43 PM
3	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with I did understand, you’re creating a false dichotomy. A disabled person having access to a building does not harm those with working legs Granting sexless men sexual access DOES hurt those “who don’t have that problem” You can’t even fathom the dynamic, yet you’re saying I’m not even trying because I’m not agreeing to your wheelchair ramps vagina metaphor	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 04:33 PM
1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with You dont really have a point though so	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 04:21 PM
3	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with You’re comparing women’s sexual autonomy to ramps for wheelchairs dude Like I don’t know what to say	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 04:20 PM
–	Women don't "owe" men relationships...But it's reasonable for men to be upset about not having them I think sexless men is a byproduct of womens RIGHTFUL freedom to not choose them. That’s literally it. Everybody is free in this scenario and not being violated, coerced or controlled. It’s pure freedom of choice. “Do you want to have sex with me.” “No” That’s it. No harm, no infringement on anybody’s rights.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 03:52 PM
0	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with It’s a real thing. So what? Therefore they shouldn’t have the freedom to choose? You’re focused on discrediting women’s agency.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 03:48 PM
4	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with There’s nothing selfish about somebody rejecting somebody because they don’t want to have sex with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 03:34 PM
0	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with There’s nothing selfish about somebody rejecting somebody because they don’t want to have sex with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 03:34 PM
2	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with They are not choosing to But some people are implying their choice is second to the problem that is male loneliness	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 03:28 PM
4	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with The answer to a man not attracting women is to become more attractive, yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 03:23 PM
-1	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with No - I am talking about this “I am lonely and nobody wants to have sex with me, this is a problem” No it’s not. It’s women exercising their freedom. It’s the opposite of a problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 03:01 PM
2	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with No, the depression is a problem or their own personal issues are a problem. People deciding to NOT have sex with them is NOT a problem. A human beings choice as to who they have sex with is not a problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 02:56 PM
4	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Its not a “problem” if the only solution is violation of somebody right to consent Male sexlessness is not a problem. As the “solution” is horrific.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 02:55 PM
-4	Being alone and sexless doesn’t even compare to having to have sex with somebody you don’t want to have sex with Its not a problem at all It means women who don’t want to have sex with that man aren’t being forced to His lack of sex is a symptom of women’s right to freedom and choice and control of their bodies actually being in effect. If a man who nobody WANTED to have sex with was having sex, somethings gone wrong	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 02:19 PM
1	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Nothing is stacked against anybody - its literally a case of “leave me alone”	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/25 01:19 PM
1	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Why	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/25 07:52 PM
1	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships You’re exactly why we need to move into cultural acceptance that things aren’t going to be the same. Unless you are able to find a partner, you’re yearning for something that you wouldn’t yearn for if we’d moved onto to normalising the fact that consentual dating is going to move more and more into the realm of being the exception not the rule. But you feel this big loss because of its normalisation due to essentially living on the tail end of a time when people had lots but also women were not …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/25 08:27 AM
1	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships There’s lots to life besides relationships and sex. Art, philosophy, music, sport, exploration, friends, family, animals There’s so much in life to enjoy. Singeldom IS going to increase as society and technology aren’t going to go backwards. The genie is out the bottle, so it’s going to be more ‘normal’ for single people to stay single. It’s not unprecedented either, South Korea, and we’re bang on that trajectory. You can also do things to increase your attractiveness. So I’d say there’s a lot t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/25 08:26 AM
1	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships 777 so far	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/25 08:22 AM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Not letting you into their vagina is not something being done to you my guy	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 11:07 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Ye so?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 05:04 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Whats that got to do with “asking for a relationship”	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 04:48 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Nobody is saying that	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 04:38 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Preventing a woman from her right to NOT have sex with somebody she doesn’t want to is not the equivalent of a man not being able to find somebody who wants to fuck him lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 03:18 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” No, the equivalent would be men shaming women for going for their personal preferences - Not NOT having sex with people they don’t want to	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 03:17 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Its not an issue. Its literally the reverse of oppression or aggression.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 02:43 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Hows that relevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 02:35 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” What do you mean	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 01:19 PM
1	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” So?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 01:19 PM
2	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” No, its not a resource, it’s literally a voluntary action between two people. That is all it is, it doesn’t exist outside of the interaction	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 01:10 PM
3	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Your comment isnt clear	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 01:08 PM
-2	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Well its not is it cos millions upon millions of men have sex lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 01:07 PM
1	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” What they say?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 01:05 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Its not a resource, its a VOLUNTARY interaction between two people	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 12:58 PM
7	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” No mate, there’s no justification for it. Sex happens because women consent to it or it doesn’t happen at all. Thats it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 12:25 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Yes but its them as an individual thats making them unattractive, not because they’re male	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 12:24 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Well not really, it doesn’t change the reality of the situation	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 12:24 PM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Its not a male issue its an individual issue Men are having sex with women. Poor men, rich men, black men, asian men. Its not a male issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 11:47 AM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” We’re not gona go extinct because a segment of society isn’t having sex You cannot rape somebody for the good of the species regardless of the mental gymnastics	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 11:45 AM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” No, sexual access is not an inanimate object or a resource - its somebody letting man they dont want touching them inside their vagina	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 11:41 AM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” No they’re not entitled to a job And men are definitely not entitled to sex, because that means forcing a woman who doesn’t want another mans penis in her to take it The comparison is WORLDS apart	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 11:25 AM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” False equivalence Your entitlement to violate a womans body with unwanted sexual acts is not the same as racial discrimination	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 11:17 AM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Water is an inanimate substance Access to a woman’s reproductive organs is a violation if deemed an entitlement that’s enforced	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 10:59 AM
–	Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue” Those things cannot be compared to access to a womans sexual organs	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 10:58 AM
1	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships This thread has over 600 comments	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 09:08 AM
–	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships The comment I replied to tried to make a point by using two scenarios of which were both, almost unbeknownst to the commenter, situations upon which women lose autonomy of their sexual organs Its almost as if you guys can’t comprehend men NOT controlling a womans body as being anything but oppressive to men somehow?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 07:00 PM
6	If "an increasing percentage of women are going for a shrinking percentage of men" is not true, the standard redpill model is not true “I had two model friends (of which are usually androgynous and weird looking in real life) who didn’t behave this way on super old apps half a generation ago” Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 05:54 PM
1	Women saying that very few men being "worthy" of relationships is a terrible implication for women Happens a lot	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 05:40 PM
–	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships Comment makes no sense	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 05:39 PM
–	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships Abortions - men trying to control womens vaginas Sexual socialism - men trying to control womens vaginas Women just want control over their own vaginas, unreasonable?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 04:40 PM
4	Women saying that very few men being "worthy" of relationships is a terrible implication for women Its NOT a good relationship with average joe though, how could it be, he’s pure “meh”	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 03:17 PM
3	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships I suppose There’s life outside of dating	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 03:05 PM
–	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships I think women are moving toward getting over the idea of settling and simply staying single and we’ll see much more of that in the years to come	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 01:31 PM
–	I think a lot of people going forward have to just get over the idea of sex and relationships Why? It’s literally saying who does and doesn’t go into their vagina it’s totally different	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/25 01:30 PM
4	Cheating and casual sex is way more common than you realise, if you deny it then you’re simply just naive or wilfully ignorant Its a commercial gym with thousands of members with many different job types NOT going to the gym is niche now Its like saying “people who use instagram are niche” No they’re not, neithers the place I work	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 05:06 PM
4	Cheating and casual sex is way more common than you realise, if you deny it then you’re simply just naive or wilfully ignorant Going to the gym is pretty common now dude its not the 80’s anymore	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 05:03 PM
5	Cheating and casual sex is way more common than you realise, if you deny it then you’re simply just naive or wilfully ignorant I dunno what to tell you pal We have lawyers, doctors, police officers, teachers, people who work at the macdonalds across the road, people who are stationed at the local air force base, sales people, unemployed people Its a commercial gym, it has the same clientele as your average walmart which is pretty much most people unless they’re very rich or very poor	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 04:20 PM
2	Cheating and casual sex is way more common than you realise, if you deny it then you’re simply just naive or wilfully ignorant Its not a nice space Its about as niche as a walmart	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 04:15 PM
4	Cheating and casual sex is way more common than you realise, if you deny it then you’re simply just naive or wilfully ignorant Yea, and lots more shitty behaviour happens than you’re clearly privy to	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 04:14 PM
5	Cheating and casual sex is way more common than you realise, if you deny it then you’re simply just naive or wilfully ignorant Well it is a good cross section of the population. Its a commercial gym. There are gym bros and influencers, there are also vets and doctors and fast food workers and teachers (VERY promiscuous from my experience) and police and athletes	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 04:13 PM
9	Cheating and casual sex is way more common than you realise, if you deny it then you’re simply just naive or wilfully ignorant I also worked in a white collar sales job and it was pretty prevalent at the work summer and Christmas parties where all the offices came together at a hotel	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 04:11 PM
1	Cheating and casual sex is way more common than you realise, if you deny it then you’re simply just naive or wilfully ignorant Yes, I did, what’s your point?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 04:10 PM
0	Cheating and casual sex is way more common than you realise, if you deny it then you’re simply just naive or wilfully ignorant I don’t think so, as the cross section of people is very varied - it has to be to sustain a large membership base at low cost	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/25 04:01 PM
2	Arrested development has led to grown adults STILL looking outwardly to others for their loneliness. It’s ENTIRELY down on YOU to fix it. Theres no system, its freedom of choice or not, those are the only systems Attraction is biologically determined	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/25 01:24 PM
2	Arrested development has led to grown adults STILL looking outwardly to others for their loneliness. It’s ENTIRELY down on YOU to fix it. Why vent	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/25 01:23 PM
1	Arrested development has led to grown adults STILL looking outwardly to others for their loneliness. It’s ENTIRELY down on YOU to fix it. Why	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/25 12:37 PM
10	The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exception Welcome to 2025 baby	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 09:37 PM
4	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating And yet it’s entirely down to them to determine that, not men or society	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 02:32 PM
–	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating They know what they DONT want though	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 02:05 PM
-2	The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exception So the first link is data that expired after 2019 and the second link says 20 - 29 year olds are getting less sex than ever	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 02:04 PM
–	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating So you’re just on about forcing women to have sex with men they don’t want to basically You support that	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 01:52 PM
–	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Well no, men don’t have the moral or legal right to subjugate women to having sex with them	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 01:43 PM
-3	The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exception No it means most young dating age people are single and the highest value are rinsing each other for sex It means less sex overall.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 01:15 PM
2	The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exception Yes true	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 01:10 PM
–	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating You’re LITERALLY advocating rape	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 01:09 PM
18	The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exception Yeah, cos it’s exclusive. Its a high barrier for entry. How does this disprove my point?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 12:45 PM
5	The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exception Yes and now it’s CHANGED	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 12:40 PM
9	The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exception Doesn’t though does it	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 12:40 PM
–	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating If the cure to starvation was non consenting sex then yes, I’d say exactly that Mans desire or even need for sex does not proceed woman’s right to not be touched	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 12:36 PM
2	The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exception Thank you for your substantial input	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 12:27 PM
14	The current generation of daters are frustrated and entitled because we are in an uncomfortable transition period where what was standard, successful monogamy, is now the exception “Particularly as they age” That’s my point. What you’re basing this off is the result of the dating landscape ten years ago. Older people and established couples from before things changed. If you take the current dating scene, fast forward it ten years, it will look very very different	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 12:26 PM
–	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/25 12:05 AM
1	Q4M: How many of you here are neurodivergent? No, anime pilled friend, I’d wager most women do not want to date a violent man	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 11:34 PM
–	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Well we cannot apply morality to women when it’s chance’s crime, can we	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 11:23 PM
–	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Ok, well we can’t regulate humans of whom its not their fault to atone for natures cruelty, can we	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 11:21 PM
0	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating So you think because women are protected by police sexless men should be allowed to rape women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 08:47 PM
1	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Cancer victim? Lol what Victim is somebody who has been harmed or wronged or perpetrated by another. Victimisation is to claim a person or group has been wronged somehow. There’s NOTHING immoral about nobody having sex with a man	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 08:36 PM
2	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Being a victim implies a perpetrator - but there is nobody to blame here Does it suck? Yeah. Nobody’s denying that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 08:20 PM
2	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating No, it REALLY is as simple as nobody has to let you touch their genitals if they don’t want you to. It REALLY is THAT simple.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 08:00 PM
2	Women have sexual needs just as much as men do if not more so This thread is insane	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 07:31 PM
2	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating You’ve grievance is totally irrelevant to my assertion that a woman not wanting a man to touch their genitals makes the man a victim	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 07:21 PM
2	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating What’s that got to do with OP	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 07:12 PM
2	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Where did I ever say that? You’ve just made up a totally different argument of which I never made	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 07:07 PM
1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. wot	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 07:06 PM
3	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating It is free will Freedom of will is not guarantee of outcome	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 07:06 PM
6	Q4M: How many of you here are neurodivergent? I think it’s because literally MOST people do end up with somebody at least for a period of their life, and it’s simply polite and probably true to say to any given individual that they will eventually find somebody. VERY rarely is a perpetually life long single person NOT somebody who obviously has something clearly wrong with them, even if it’s not obvious straight away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 06:58 PM
3	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Victim implies a perpetrator Nobody is the perpetrator	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 06:18 PM
0	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Ye, all correct, and?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 06:17 PM
8	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating What you’re saying is that fundamentally, it’s immoral not to fuck someone you don’t want to Thats all the mental gymnastics and comparison boils down to	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 02:56 PM
7	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating No, they’re not morally bankrupt for not having sex with these people	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 02:52 PM
6	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating Women not having sex with men they don’t find attractive is not the equivalent of abandoning social safety nets, if you believe this sincerely you may potentially actually be dangerous	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 02:23 PM
10	You are not a victim just because nobody wants to date you. Loneliness and sexlessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in dating It is moral to be as discriminatory as you want whilst dating. The alternative is to say that you should literally touch and allow those to touch you sexually that you do not want. Thats the definition. It cannot be compared to racism. People aren’t racist because they don’t let another coloured person touch their genitals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 02:09 PM
1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Why would it NOT be obvious at the very least into your late adolescence	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 11:15 AM
0	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. No, I think a lot of men KNOW and always knew women liked attractive men, but were just overwhelmingly frustrated that they were not the exception and adored for being super nice, due to their entitlement and blame it on being gaslit	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/25 09:47 AM
2	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. That nobody wants to date them THEREFORE they were wronged by society somehow	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 09:03 PM
4	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Firstly, women are now out earning men Secondly, you cannot compare the two issues - as one is simply a man not seeing the absolute obvious from a young age and allowing it to inhibit his ability to get a date, whilst the other is institutional discrimination resulting in economical disadvantage Lumping in “i wasnt told being good looking got you women” and custody rights are not the same level and I’m not claiming they are	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 08:37 PM
-1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. What do you mean lied to as a child? Did you mother, lol, say “make sure you are a nice kind and decent person and treat women well” or did she say “be nice kind and decent oh and women love ugly guys” Did you all fill in some gaps in your head here Nobody is accountable for a mans total lack of basic social understanding. If you choose to believe an animated film and take your mothers dutiful advice of telling her child not to be an arsehole then I don’t know what to tell ya pall	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:56 PM
7	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Yes but this is not “an issue affecting men” this is some made up nonsense for sheltered nerds who couldn’t seem to figure out that women are attracted to…plot twist….attractive men It’s not an issue. Its a weird self own if anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:54 PM
1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Ye typo I guess what I mean was if they don’t know you as a person then it obviously has to be your appearance because what else could they be going off	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:52 PM
1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Yes but dude you GROW UP no? You hit 25 years old and now with your fully developed brain look around and go “hmmm yes maybe life isn’t a cartoon” No?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:44 PM
2	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. I have not said women don’t reject men because of their physical appearance….they DEFINITELY do, like, probably the majority of the time Where the hell did you get the impression I didn’t think that And that’s my whole point….it’s incredibly obvious that’s what they look for in a man, as well as status and confidence and excitement. Nobody has gaslit anybody with enough significance to rationally make the case that society made them truly believe the nerd gets the girl. That’s pure delusion	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:41 PM
5	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. I am a man But I do feel a portion of men don’t even know their own entitlement. Like you said, they’re a victim for not being chosen which is wild	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:39 PM
1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Why would it not be absolutely ridiculously obvious that if they don’t know you as a person that it’s not physical appearance Like how dumb would you have to be to not deduce that	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:28 PM
0	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Ok?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:23 PM
4	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Do these “unattractive” men tend to get the girl at the beginning of this work of fiction of which seems to have more of a hold over these weak minded individuals than actual socialisation, or is it at the end AFTER they’ve gotten the super powers or beaten the system evil ex boyfriend during a CGI filled musical boss battle of which is blatantly make believe? What examples in real life? If it’s so prevalent in real life then what’s the problem? It’s not a lie if its happening in real life then …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:14 PM
1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. “You’re not my type” is literally one of the biggest rebuttals to an approach by an unwanted suitor	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:06 PM
1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Nobody is blaming Blame is only applied to somebody doing something wrong It’s not anybody’s fault if a man is ugly. But it can be a reason for not finding success.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:05 PM
3	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. I am denying it yeah because it wasn’t true, if you honestly didn’t realise attractive men get the women until your adulthood then the problem IS with you. It’s an INCREDIBLY obvious thing. Why you’d let your mother or an episode of some kids TV show sway your beliefs so much away from the truth is totally beyond me	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:03 PM
0	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. At 5 years old you should not be involving yourself in dating At 15/16 years old, having, y’know, been around other human beings and observing the world for yourself and maybe dated a little, you should have exercised very very VERY basic independence of thought and noticed what was obvious and accepted it instead of blaming disney and mommy well into adulthood	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 07:00 PM
5	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. How am I? It’s possible to believe that women like attractive men, and that society didn’t overwhelmingly gaslight males into believing that wasn’t true	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:56 PM
-3	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. You were not gas lighted. The fact that nobody found you attractive should have been evidence enough. The fact that attractive confident men got all the women should have been evidence enough. Hell, even as a kid I made the basic observation that all my friends dads were tall guys. To somehow let cartoons and mommy totally override what’s evident in the rest of the entire world is nobodys fault but your own weak character	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:51 PM
2	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. No, they have dating issues because they’re not attractive	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:49 PM
2	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. What’s that got to do with my OP	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:48 PM
1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Why does it matter why somebody rejects you If you want to date you should be making yourself as attractive as possible anyway, so the feedback is irrelevant	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:47 PM
0	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Nobody lied to you And if you believed whoever said that being attractive and confident were not what got you women, when literally you had the entire world around you as evidence to the contrary, then the onus is on you	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:39 PM
3	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. What’s that got to do with my OP	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:38 PM
5	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. I think maybe it’s a self fulfilling situation. If you’re the kind of boy to let disney and your mommy influence how you perceive society, then you’re not going to be the kind of guy to grow up to be attractive as you’re clearly a weak minded mommy coddled child	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:37 PM
-6	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. I don’t get your point dude	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:35 PM
1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Who are these people and why did you not simply look at the people around you in life and who they were attracted to, and think for yourself. You’re putting the onus of your own inability to register the incredibly obvious	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:33 PM
-4	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Why would you let any one tv show where a nerd got the woman influence you at all? How PAINFULLY mommied do you have to be to grow up constantly being told that “just be kind and true child and the pretty girl will love you” And women are not hiding the fact they like attractive confident sociable guys. It’s just the total opposite of the truth. Nobody is hiding the fact that that’s what they like. Some incredibly weak and impressionable boys in this sub	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:30 PM
2	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. The fact that Disney had any impact at all on their social landscape is pathetic tbh We’re supposed to be men lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:22 PM
4	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Its not “victim” blaming You are not a victim because you didn’t realise that women are obviously attracted to attractive men lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 06:21 PM
-2	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. It’s not instinctive It’s glaringly obvious in the very society and media and social circles they claim has been gas lighting them	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 05:52 PM
3	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Why are they to blame Did you literally have absolutely no agency and independent thought and observational ability whatsoever or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 05:51 PM
0	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Why was this not obvious from a very very young age though. It’s literally never been hidden.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 04:45 PM
-1	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. It’s literally a main talking point that “society and women aren’t honest” about what they want. I mean, it’s the entire concept of the red pill. That it’s unveiling some hidden truth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 04:44 PM
7	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. It’s BLATANTLY clear who gets women and why though. Thats my point. And it’s never been a secret. If you need things spelled out literally then you may have more going on than a simple case of being “gaslit”	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 04:43 PM
4	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. Do the guys who got all the girls seem like the kind of guys who listened to their mommys word like it was gospel. Naturally “boysome” boys who get most of the action were not soft little mommys boys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 04:41 PM
9	You were not gaslit by society as to what women are attracted to. You need to take accountability for not seeing what was always totally obvious. You’re only on a forum like this because you’re trying to make sense of the world. You don’t start out here. You end up here. These forums are crime scene analysis	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/25 04:02 PM
2	What going to happen to the dating scene in 10 to 20 years? Top 20, lol, no. Top 5 percent	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/25 03:04 PM
2	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD There’s a specific subsection of men who get extra frustrated in the dating scene because they genuinely think they’re attractive but the results don’t reflect that. They tend to be just under 6 foot, dark hair, dark eyes, face looks alright in a generic way and they have a weirdly mid physique that they mistake for decent - either awkwardly slightly fat or the unsexy side of skinny. It’s the kinda guy whose grandmother genuinely believes is handsome and tells him. They’re not “ugly” they just h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/25 07:59 PM
0	If you think there's a problem with the modern dating scene, what do you think the end goal looks like? Kamalam	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/25 03:04 PM
1	This sub's understanding of the 'average person' is flawed. OP is grim	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/25 04:53 PM
1	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it Lol no And it doesn’t change the fact it’s not a “problem”	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/25 05:07 PM
1	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it It’s not a problem though	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/25 12:39 PM
1	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it Good stuff	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 08:51 PM
1	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it Yes but what’s prompting them to SAY it to you	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 07:01 PM
1	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it And you challenge them on the “morality” of this? Just casually?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 06:03 PM
1	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it You say that like not being surrounded by hyper liberal middle class white women is being sheltered or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 05:42 PM
3	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it How exactly did those perfectly normal convo’s with girls in real life come about lmao	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 05:29 PM
3	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it …..y…you know….you can speak to people in real life, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 05:11 PM
3	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it Yea probably, but that’s reddit. If you went off the reddit demographic, Harris would have won 90 percent of the popular vote	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 04:59 PM
3	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it Ye on reddit maybe In real life if you tried to tell a girl she “only goes for hot guys” she’d look at you like “….yeah? And?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 04:09 PM
4	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it Cos they’re too pussy not to	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 01:27 PM
2	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it They literally don’t They will just say “too short” or “not my type” Younger women are brutal in comparison to your mothers generation	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 12:05 PM
3	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it They know he was just hot?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 11:05 AM
9	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it They never contest that the bar is in hell for men they’re attracted to Men they’re not attracted to are simply not even part of the equation	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 10:41 AM
-8	The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about it Wrong, they are fine with it because it’s been the norm for years If you say “you like attractive guys who don’t chase you” to a young woman in 2025 they’d just look at you like “….yeah?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/25 10:40 AM
1	Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps Exist Women who date get this concept of a man that’s not real that is a combination of great features from other guys she’s dated. They are chasing a dragon of an idea of a man that doesn’t exist. Ah, yes. Frankenchad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/25 10:49 AM
5	Has anyone noticed a rise in older female/younger male relationships? Yes, be in shape. Why? Women want what they DIDN’T have. Older generations tended to partner up with men who mostly didn’t go to the gym. Yes some were tall and some were handsome but in shape and visibly muscular? Almost NO man was like that 20 - 30 years ago. So it’s a novelty that they are still impressed and attracted to. Women now? 18 - 35? Being in shape doesn’t even register. It’s immutable traits they want now, height, face etc	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/25 08:56 PM
4	If every average man dropped out of the dating market it would not affect women one bit. Their dating problems are entirely based on the behaviour of top tier men Its literally all reality	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 04:40 PM
2	Younger generations feel entitled to what their parents took for granted when it comes to relationships, much like buying a house, and they need to lower expectations Poster reveals himself to not only be wrong about reality (facts? no, instead, “how it is”)……ok..same thing) but also essentially just calling people a dumbass because “we should all have free housing bro” Terrible example of under thinking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 03:00 PM
2	Younger generations feel entitled to what their parents took for granted when it comes to relationships, much like buying a house, and they need to lower expectations Its not a mentality its fact	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/25 01:53 PM
2	Younger generations feel entitled to what their parents took for granted when it comes to relationships, much like buying a house, and they need to lower expectations There’s nothing “lol” about it Housing is not a right. Now I’m all for shelters and charities and families and friends helping people out. But a “right to housing” is not a human right	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 09:35 PM
1	Younger generations feel entitled to what their parents took for granted when it comes to relationships, much like buying a house, and they need to lower expectations No he’s not, he’s saying you don’t have the right to a home. He’s right, you don’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 05:04 PM
2	Younger generations feel entitled to what their parents took for granted when it comes to relationships, much like buying a house, and they need to lower expectations He’s not saying it’s “good”	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/25 07:36 AM
-1	Younger generations feel entitled to what their parents took for granted when it comes to relationships, much like buying a house, and they need to lower expectations Yeah, OLDER generations	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 09:42 PM
-3	Younger generations feel entitled to what their parents took for granted when it comes to relationships, much like buying a house, and they need to lower expectations They literally don’t….	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/25 09:13 PM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Nothing to do with me But “nice young lad from next door, trained really hard in the gym, nice boyish face” simply does not hit the same buttons as “I’m a pretty blonde white girl and it’s taboo and self destructive to have secret sex with the sexy dark skinned hood rat” Like I said, women’s psychology is different with sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 12:22 PM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Nice guy puppy dog He isn’t “sex” He’s just lean and jacked and has a pretty face. That’s not “sex” Especially to very pretty feminine women. I dunno I’m red pilled so I see and understand things more through the lens of “what goes on behind the curtain” more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 10:50 AM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD They do? Lol It’s the nerdy reddit white guys who have it in their head that every woman wants a Henry Cavil clone that “don’t know”	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 10:15 AM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Ye and I’m telling you mixed race and black guys are vastly underestimated in how much women want them sexually	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 09:34 AM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Lol what have relationships gotta do with anything These women aren’t playing house with hot mixed raced dudes	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/25 08:48 PM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Yes, over white. It’s hard to explain, but women view sexuality a bit differently. “He looks like a perfect beautiful muscular strong jawed white man” Just doesn’t have the same “kick” as “masculine muscular dark skinned bad boy” There’s also “the” stereotype about black and mixed raced guys as well. Genuinely, the “handsome” tall white guy archetype is weirdly A-sexual. Trust me way more girls are into it than you realise or will let on publicly	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/25 05:32 PM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD It’s more than a niche appeal, I’d go so far as to say it’s mostly preferred and also, low key, something a lot of white women - especially pretty feminine “good girls” have as a fixed standard	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/25 03:29 PM
3	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Sub MASSIVELY over estimates the traditional white guy archetype and underestimates mixed race/black guys appeal to white women	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/25 09:18 AM
1	What's the point of 30+ women dating if their values already tanked in the dating market ? If you’re not chad she’s getting chadded whether she’s with you or not whether you like it or not and whether you know it or not between the ages of 22 and 30 anyway bro	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 10:39 AM
–	Society cannot fix dating. Any fix massively impedes the human right to not be touched by somebody you don’t want touching you intimately. It is normalised that exciting attractive men are sought after though. 2013 called.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 01:10 PM
–	Society cannot fix dating. Any fix massively impedes the human right to not be touched by somebody you don’t want touching you intimately. They wont, it will be harder to pair	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 01:08 PM
–	Society cannot fix dating. Any fix massively impedes the human right to not be touched by somebody you don’t want touching you intimately. Out dated sentiment. Nobody under 30 had a problem talking about looks as a deal breaker	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 01:07 PM
–	Society cannot fix dating. Any fix massively impedes the human right to not be touched by somebody you don’t want touching you intimately. Ye, and there will be less women per man if more men are considered attractive…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 12:12 PM
–	Society cannot fix dating. Any fix massively impedes the human right to not be touched by somebody you don’t want touching you intimately. How do we know they were attracted? Our parents generation seemed miserable together	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 12:11 PM
1	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. Take a stereotypically attractive man from 2024 and he’d sweep up in any time period ever	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 11:00 AM
-2	Whenever People Say They Have Problems Dating, Most of The Time It’s This Post review! First part, relatively coherent and strongly laid out hypothesis But post soon descends into unintelligible rambling, something about coffee and 50/50	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 09:14 PM
1	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. How is it societies fault? If you believe you’re only lonely because of cultural trends then let me tell you, if culture swung so that less attractive men were now attractive, you’d have even more competition and it would probably be harder	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 07:33 PM
1	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. Imagine being with a woman to whom you only just about cleared the minimum attraction threshold because somehow society managed to convince her that you were somehow viscerally attractive to her in a way you weren’t before. I won’t even bother with your minimum wage straw man. It makes absolutely no sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 07:02 PM
7	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. If you can’t make yourself attractive, then that’s it. Game over. Society can’t “answer” you into being loved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 06:42 PM
1	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. Let’s say “media and culture” somehow convinced women that more men were physically attractive. Now you’ve just got more men to compete against.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 06:39 PM
0	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. Ok, and only you can make yourself fit those narrow parameters. It’s sink or swim dude.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 06:33 PM
6	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. But if somehow “society” managed to make more men appear attractive (how I have no clue) then you’d just be competing with even more men, who are now, barely, above the minimum threshold for attraction	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 06:30 PM
3	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. But then you’d just be competing with even more men, who are now, barely, above the minimum threshold for attraction	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 06:29 PM
5	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. You didn’t make a counter point, you seemingly quoted (maybe) something else out of context? I’m not sure what that means. ANYWAY no society can’t make another individual find you attractive. That’s down on you buddy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 06:20 PM
10	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. You are the only person who can, and if you can’t, then that is literally. Love was not meant for you. And that’s nobody’s fault nor obligation to remedy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 06:18 PM
3	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. You’re saying that society didn’t accommodate and encourage your ex acting like a child, and therefore he killed himself. A grown man acting like a child is something that requires psychological help, if he’s doing it in public to the extent that NOT able to means he can’t bear to live then he clearly wanted to exist in a way that required help. What was it society wasn’t letting him do and how was society suppressing it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 06:08 PM
3	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. Not really, it is entirely down to you. It’s you that somebody needs to be attracted to. How is anybody else but you going to achieve that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 06:02 PM
10	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. Imagine “My partner never used to find me attractive, but societal discourse was massively shunted and now she sorta finds me attractive” You’d be NOWHERE NEAR her first choice. And her attraction to you would be weak.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 05:47 PM
1	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. Why did society not facilitate your ex acting like a child? Isn’t that obvious?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 05:39 PM
5	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. A relationship is formed of two individuals attracted to each other. Society cannot make one person love another.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 05:37 PM
6	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. No, they can’t. Imagine that “my wife never looked at me twice but society swung the discourse and now we’re together” Relationship as brittle as dry straw. If you need society to tell you not to be fat then it’s over for you already	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 05:27 PM
7	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. Nobody else can do it for you bro	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 05:25 PM
1	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. What? All I got from your reply was your ex acted like a kid so he killed himself?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 05:20 PM
3	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. A woman who only wants 10/10 everything isn’t going to be swayed to love a man by tik tok trends and height statistically analysis on reddit	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 04:42 PM
13	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. If you took the most stereotypically attractive man in the world now in 2024 and put him in the 1950’s he’d still absolutely slay with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 04:35 PM
2	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. They are honest	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 04:32 PM
0	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. I’m sorry, who ELSES fault is that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 04:18 PM
14	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. It’s 2024, nobody on any format that reaches dating age individuals is pushing the narrative that attraction doesn’t matter. People in their mid twenties and below are actually brutally honest about this. And if you’re older then you’re almost embarrassingly naive and should know better tbh (though autism can factor into this and can’t be helped)	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 04:18 PM
0	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. This plays into my point. A woman has to have a surplus of attraction to you for it to work. It can’t just be “oh, now the instagram meta is that 6’2 is standard so she’d be with me if it wasn’t for her friends thinking I was perfect besides those two inches I don’t have.” No, for a relationship to work or for there to be enough stability, there needs to be a lot of attraction towards you on a fundamental level. These small adjustments in society are not enough to sway what would have been a rel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 04:13 PM
1	Society cannot make any given individual attracted to another individual enough to create more long lasting relationships. It’s all down to you to become attractive. Me too lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 04:09 PM
0	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour So you think some woman is going to to on reddit, read a debate, and go “oh, I see the contradiction now” and suddenly is going to not only be now attracted to guys she wasn’t before, but attracted enough to not cheat or end it within a few weeks? The ability to attract a mate, which is what this entire thing is about, is down to any given individual alone. Nobody can do it for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 03:22 PM
1	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour You cant protest a woman into wanting to sleep with you	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 02:34 PM
-1	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour I’m not trying to achieve a goal. I think some people think they can complain their way to being loved Nope, its ALL on you	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 01:13 PM
0	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour The only other option is forcing women to have sex with people	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 11:27 AM
1	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour If you want to go to prison yeah. Hey, at least you’ll get laid there	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/24 09:27 AM
1	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour Mens “issue” is women won’t let most of them touch them	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 08:39 PM
-1	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour It literally is	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 08:38 PM
-2	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour Access to a womans vagina is not a “mens issue”	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 08:27 PM
-1	Complaining about dating’s unfairness as a man will lead to nothing and is a pointless endeavour My point is, complain if you want, but what you need to realise is it will not help you AT ALL	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 08:09 PM
–	No one owes you attraction, attention, or affection. If you want better outcomes, you must earn them. Period. “Societal issues” = I am unable to attract a mate Society can’t help you there pal, keep squawking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 06:22 PM
–	No one owes you attraction, attention, or affection. If you want better outcomes, you must earn them. Period. ….in this case, you either either figure that out yourself, or keep whining People can only tell you “nobody is coming to fix your dating life” so many times.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 06:21 PM
–	No one owes you attraction, attention, or affection. If you want better outcomes, you must earn them. Period. Well, besides that, it truly serves no purpose. You will not gain a single thing out of it. I mean maybe you might get some acknowledgment of empathy (pity) but…..man…..is that really what you want? To be the guy who gets “empathy”	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 05:36 PM
–	No one owes you attraction, attention, or affection. If you want better outcomes, you must earn them. Period. OP states that “deserve” has nothing to do with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 03:30 PM
–	No one owes you attraction, attention, or affection. If you want better outcomes, you must earn them. Period. There comes a point in the natural world, in a survival situation, where a living thing stops crying or moaning or squawking or howling or whimpering, and it goes deadly silent. This is the moment that in it’s core being, it really understands and realises that NOTHING is coming to help it, ever. It’s mother, it’s pride, it’s herd, it’s friends. Nothing. It is fully alone and in charge of whether it lives or dies. From then on it remains silent and it’s energy is diverted entirely to survival an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 03:01 PM
2	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards Your offering a solution to a problem they don’t have. They life like that because they want to, it’s easiest for them and the effort of cooking something decent outweighs simply just NOT. Having a partner inspires you to do these things, which benefits you both.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 09:58 PM
2	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards Literally almost everyones self improvement is for show People aren’t attracted to your bolt on qualities, it’s your genetics and character and personality People are not primarily choosing men based on their cooking let me tell you. All that stuff is window dressing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 09:17 PM
1	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards Ye sometimes and some do but a lot of men are understandably simple creatures. Cooking a decent meal, ye, great. But it’s partly for show. The effort isn’t worth it most of the time. A lot of self improvement is performative	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 06:54 PM
2	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards You’re missing the point Men have checked out Cooking their own dinner isn’t going to solve their crippling loneliness	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 05:21 PM
1	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards I have girlfriend so I cook for us, and I’m more driven to do so because of it	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 04:44 PM
3	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards It literally is either girlfriend or microwave meal and video games (don’t forget phone in bed) for most guys	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 04:22 PM
4	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards I’m sure some do	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 04:21 PM
4	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards They find literally no benefit to any of that	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 03:44 PM
2	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards Ye well I don’t really disagree with you there	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 03:00 PM
9	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards The few that do, yes, mostly	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 01:42 PM
–	We can at least agree that that too many women are addicted to taking pictures at the expense of ruining a moment Get a time machine then dude	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 11:38 AM
27	Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standards Your sentiments are 15 years out of date Average men don’t meet a cute co worker. They get home, alone, eat microwave meal, play video game, look at phone in bed, rinse/repeat	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 11:37 AM
6	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them Because of the cold hard fact women have a biological drive to mate with him, literally the highest compliment our species can give itself	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 05:35 PM
-3	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them She’s the only level of woman that will accept guys like “that” Above are holding out for low level celebrities	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 10:31 AM