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This is just plain fucked up: "In 1991 a Kansas court ruled that a woman is entitled to sue the father of her child for child support even if conception occurred as a result of a criminal act, like statutory rape, committed by the woman."

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August 23, 2012

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer

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Title	This is just plain fucked up: "In 1991 a Kansas court ruled that a woman is entitled to sue the father of her child for child support even if conception occurred as a result of a criminal act, like statutory rape, committed by the woman."
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	276
Comments	36
Date	August 23, 2012 11:23 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/yq1xc/this_is_just_plain_fucked_up_in_1991_a_kansas/
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We've written about this many times.

If your minor son is statutorily raped by an adult woman and he happens to impregnate her, your son is liable for child support if the statutory rapist decides to have the baby (which means, you will have to pay for your son's child if you want to keep your son out of jail). In that case, unlike the situation where a female victim of statutory rape decides to have an abortion, the taxpayers don't have any obligation to pay for the result of the boy's victimization. That responsibility is his, and his alone.

Don't believe me? In the case of County of San Luis Obispo v. Nathaniel J., 57 Cal. Rptr. 2d 843 (Ct. App. 1996), a thirty-four-year-old woman had sex with a fifteen-year-old boy and became pregnant. The woman was convicted of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor -- commonly called statutory rape. She decided to have the child, and after she gave birth to her daughter, she received Aid for Families with Dependent Children, and the county sought reimbursement for the AFDC payments from the father, the 15-year-old boy. The court held that the boy, a statutory rape victim, was financially liable for the child that resulted from his victimization.

Why? Because California courts charged with interpreting California's statutory rape laws have recognized that "a minor . . . who voluntarily engages in sexual intercourse is not necessarily a victim of sexual abuse." In re Kyle F., 112 Cal. App. 4th 538, 543, 5 Cal. Rptr. 3d 190 (Cal. Ct. App. 2003).

The Obispo case is not alone: Other state supreme courts and several state appellate courts have ruled that male statutory rape victims can be financially liable for supporting a child resulting from their criminal victimization.

In one case, a 15-year-old boy who was statutorily raped was held to be "not an innocent victim of [a female adult's] criminal act, and the law should not excuse him from his responsibility to support his biological child. Oklahoma's public policy mandating parental support of children outweighs any policy of protecting minors from the consequences of their willing participation in sexual misconduct with adults." Stringer v. Dep't of Human Services ex rel. Baker, 2004 OK CIV APP 97; 104 P.3d 1132 (2004).

(There are, of course, no reported cases where female victims of statutory rape have been held to a similar support obligation.)

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I am sure this will get buried but this happened to me as well. When I was 15 years old a 23 year old woman became pregnant by me. She was pretty much insane, and still is, and sabotaged the condoms in order to get pregnant. She ruined my life, and all to make her ex-boyfriend jealous. When I was served my child support papers my dad called the state police, they transferred him to some woman that dealt with sexual crimes and was promptly laughed at. Lawyers did much the same. It has killed my college dreams and there isn't much I can do except make sure I don't lose my job because then I'll go to jail for nonpayment. I am angry every day over this and I don't suppose that anger will ever pass.

Saddest thing is I have accepted that I have to pay the child support and I am ok with that, but the bitch won't even let me see my daughter. Sucks to be a guy sometimes.

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