/r/MensRights Demographics Poll!! [http://is.gd/MRMpoll]

SageofLightning · 2012-08-06T00:44:06+00:00

I'm sure this won't get invaded by certain groups who want to give MR a bad name.

BrSy · 2012-08-05T23:08:11+00:00

Transsexual is not a sexual orientation. :/

Phuzzums · 2012-08-06T00:19:11+00:00

The answers for the last question about mixed or segregated education are too narrow for me. The ideal middle ground for me would be education that adjusts itself to student needs. Mixed education the way it is now means everyone is subject to the teaching method used even if it doesn't suit them. Splitting students by gender doesn't work either because some boys learn better in environments traditionally suited for girls and some girls learn better in environments traditionally suited for boys.

Given only the option of the two listed I would only choose segregated slightly above mixed because it would limit the distraction that their hormone drenched brains would have to deal with in class settings. I still feel both are lazy and poor options.

JockeVXO · 2012-08-06T00:04:18+00:00

Could have used more options.

The politics question seemed weird to me, being Swedish. Here liberal means small government, conservative basically doesn't exist, and socialist means big government. I don't identify with either ideology.

The feminism from an historical point of view question felt quite limitting, so I had to go with Other.

Same problem with the modern feminism question, although there wasn't any Other option. I oppose the ideology altogether, along with the activism, so neither option worked for me and I had to settle with the first one.

The education groups question could have used a third option, simply stating It should be optional to have mixed and non-mixed groups. Boys and girls learn differently, but I am not for forcing children to go to all boys or all girls schools if they don't want to.

Legolihkan · 2012-08-06T02:17:49+00:00

Yea some of the options were very limiting and left very little room for grey area

2012-08-06T02:48:57+00:00

I couldn't answer "What is your take on feminism today?" because it depends so much on the feminist you're talking to. There's many feminists who practice egalitarianism, but there are also many femtards, female supremacists, etc in the movement. It's really a mixed bag; in my opinion.

Perhaps taking the first answer and turning it into a disagree <--> agree scale might work better.

rightsbot · 2012-08-05T22:00:18+00:00

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yourfaceyourass · 2012-08-06T01:09:10+00:00

I would have preferred it stuck to demographic questions rather than on opinions on issues.

ThePigman · 2012-08-06T08:02:37+00:00

Jedi is a recognized religion now?

pcarvious · 2012-08-06T05:24:49+00:00

Your answers to questions have direct bias. If you redo this study, you need to avoid wording answers to add caveats or exceptions. I am interested in the results, but I have questions on design and bias which will have to be looked at later.

doublicon · 2012-08-05T22:54:43+00:00

I would have liked an option to abolish the institution of marriage entirely, when it came to the gay marriage question.

palz2015 · 2012-08-06T04:31:02+00:00

There were some questions I was not able to answer honestly. For example I think Women's Studies is indoctrination but if people really want to study it they should be able to (cult's have rights too).

I answered indoctrination though since it is my stronger view.

Also I wish you had allowed me to explicitly endorse the man giving up paternity rights and obligations.

I really hope 100% of MRA's endorsed gay marriage :)

ThePigman · 2012-08-06T02:23:16+00:00

Oceania? What the fuck? Still, given that this subreddit is in English we can presume that the figures for Oceania will be mostly Australians...

kratistos · 2012-08-06T09:50:14+00:00

Sorry man, but this is a bad poll. I know you put a lot of work in it, but still:

Some people don't define themselves with two genders
I either have no problem with feminism or I think feminism by large is hypocritical and demonizes men? What about middle ground?

AndIMustScream · 2012-08-06T06:50:45+00:00

Sigh.

Define SouthEast from SouthWest.

Where is the arbitrary line you are drawing?

No one in my area would refer to this place as anything other than "the South" or "the Deep South".

Edit nitpick:

Request for removal of "should be allowed everywhere" from gay marriage question.

Rationale: I will support gay marriage, but I will also support democracy.

I don't believe any 1 group should be allowed to make judgements like this for the whole, which seems to be what the answer is implying.

SirSkeptic · 2012-08-06T00:53:50+00:00

Education question needed more options.

Hamakua · 2012-08-06T06:12:29+00:00

The very first question that was asking an opinion reveals an agenda.

That the very first question was not in politics but before also reveals that you view the question's subject matter as separate to politics, believing it is something else.

If a man has been abused by his significant other, what should he do?

If a woman has been abused by her significant other, what should she do?

Shitty loaded questions with 3 horrible answers that all lead to a less than optimal situation. This is why DV laws currently suck.

"Leave (him/her)" was not one of the answers. A man calling the cops is signing his own arrest warrant no matter his role.

Women's studies classes...

Should be regulated to make sure the items discussed have impartial evidence to back them up.

But people are free to study what they want, even if it is based on fantasy.

Without the above regulation, they shouldn't be accredited, and they should most certainly NOT be mandatory for any major degree.

Regarding parenthood, which of the following are you most likely to agree with?

Last two answers are applicable and can be chosen at the same time without being hypocritical.

Was 17, got a girl pregnant, didn't want the child -answer 3. At 30 had a planned pregnancy, mother wanted to play custody games, answer 4.

This is why you stick "other" on every question since you aren't able to think of every scenario, even common ones apparently.

Last question could have used an age variance. Could have used a class variance. "Some classes segregated" (Wherever boys are severely behind), "some classes together" (Where boys and girls are doing comparably well).

A lot of your questions don't do a very good job of quantifying for solutions that compromise.

Title	/r/MensRights Demographics Poll!! [http://is.gd/MRMpoll]
Author	palz2015
Upvotes	60
Comments	75
Date	August 5, 2012 9:30 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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