Ghosting and sacrifice

TheLWMA · 2022-05-11T02:13:12+00:00

I don't understand how ghosting someone is safer.... in fact, I would think that ghosting someone would be far more dangerous. Do they think that a guy who they suspect would have a hard time taking rejection would handle being ghosted very well? That doesn't add up.

It makes me think that this whole "ghosting" phenomenon is not out of safety, as that's just a justification. At best it's from a place of social anxiety and at worst it's from a place of insensitivity.

Man_of_culture_112 · 2022-05-11T06:18:12+00:00

It was said that I should not feel bad about it because I should be aware that other women feel safer doing it and that this is a sacrifice I should take.

Progressives/Left wingers get on my very last nerve sometimes, this is so hypocritical.

They like to say men should be open to their feelings and be allowed to express themselves and that male gender roles should be removed but they will use that same (unthinking) mouth to gaslight men/boys and deny them their feelings and tell them to sacrifice themselves. Do you notice they use this same repulsive line of thinking when it comes to false rape accusations also?

When men (rightfully) talk about false rape accusations they proceed to gaslight us by saying it is a small percentage. I wonder if they would say this to this man or this man or this man.

Men should not have to sacrifice anything for women, progressives are hypocrites when they try to revive chivalry.

Tedfordshire · 2022-05-10T22:09:58+00:00

"safety" is just an excuse to not have to take responsibility for their actions. It's literally always worth trying a hard rejection first, THEN if they don't take no for an answer they can go for other methods. Plus ghosting is an online phenomenon, so there is literally zero physical threat to the woman.

If someone ghosts you it's because they don't respect you, full stop.

BloomingBrains · 2022-05-11T05:58:22+00:00

Unless you are acting legitimately rude, creepy, socially awkward, etc. then I don't think its really about "improving". (And if you're even worried about being any of those things in the first place, you are most likely not). It may just be that you did nothing wrong, and the person just doesn't feel that you're a good match for whatever reason. Even if you're perfectly cordial, things will still not work out if you have conflicting personalities or interests. Especially if they're rude enough to ghost--you yourself probably don't want to be with them at that point anyway. I view that as dodging a bullet. This still doesn't justify ghosting, but my point is not to blame yourself.

Which brings me to my next point. I don't recommend asking for help "improving" yourself online, as you are basically asking to get bombarded with misandrist comments stating "women aren't video games, we don't have cheat codes". Of course, if you come out and say "I don't need to improve myself" you will get told you're just not trying hard enough, so go take a shower. In other words, all the advice is really insulting, obvious stuff that won't actually help you because other than a small subset of men, they are already doing those kinds of basic things.

This dichotomy is the sinister side of what you're talking about, and it allows for the narrative of "improving yourself" to switch to the opposite of whatever the man is saying so that whatever he says or does is wrong and being girlfriendless is always his own fault. And the end goal is covering up society's acceptance of the ridiculously high female standards woke feminism has created.

Perhaps this attitude can be best summarized thusly: "There is a high barrier to entry, but its simultaneously such a low barrier, but since most men are trash, they can't pass even that."

RavioliButtholi · 2022-05-11T11:09:59+00:00

They're making excuses. What is a woman to do when she needs to reject a man in person? Ghosting doesn't work that well. Rejecting someone requires guts, someone who ghost's you simply has none. It's problem of character, which your lefty friends lack in.

Sydnaktik · 2022-05-11T10:37:43+00:00

I should not feel bad about it because I should be aware that other women feel safer doing it

This is just insanity. You should focus on your own well being first.

I understand why women do not want to reject, they are afraid of men's reactions, both verbal and physical

I sincerely doubt that this is the majority reason . Have you been spending too much time on r/ menslib or around people with similar philosophy. I'm convinced that this is terrible for your mental health. People ghost because they want to avoid responsibility and they don't want to deal with bullshit.

People deserve to know that they are being rejected in a timely fashion. They shouldn't have to figure it out 3 hours, or 3 days or 3 weeks later based on the fact that they're not getting any replies anymore.

But your interpretation of a rejection suggests to me what the real reason why you get ghosted so much is. Yes, the girls should be responsible for giving your a clear rejection. But she should be under no obligation or expectation to give you a reason. Obviously an objective explanation would be helpful to YOU, but that would be a favor from her to you. But she's already decided to terminate the relationship with you, so most of the time, that means she's not going to be interested in giving you favors.

Besides, you shouldn't want an explanation. Girls don't know what guys need to do to be more attractive any more than men know how girls should dress or wear makeup to be more attractive. As in, a rare few will know, most won't have a clue and a large number will have strong opinions and be completely wrong.

TheSpaceDuck · 2022-05-11T15:04:26+00:00

If "being afraid of their reaction" was the reason, then men would be treating women they reject like crap. The reason why we hear about men reacting bad to rejection more often is men being rejected more often. When women are rejected, it's rarely pretty.

On the other hand, I wouldn't overthink it if I were you. People "ghost" because they don't wanna go to the trouble of telling someone something they won't like to hear. Yes it's selfish, but not uncommon. I'm guilty of it too since I did it myself back when I used dating apps.

Technology has its perks but it has also made us more detached from the human on the other side. I've rarely ever heard of people who first met in person "ghosting" each other, regardless of gender.

Yesyesnaaooo · 2022-05-11T15:36:26+00:00

I think that who ever you were talking to about this isn't really your friend, I think they are the problem in your life and not the people ghosting you.

Cad_Cam_CNC · 2022-05-11T12:18:31+00:00

Relationships require challenge, yes you need to get along with that person. But when you challenge the partner every now and again, they dont expect it, they puzzle over it, think about it. That is what keeps you linked in the relationship. The reason for that isnt so you are happy right now, but so you can live a high quality life over multiple decades, so they are looking for some one to contend with to push them beyond what they already are. No one wants some one who thinks they are perfect in their current form.

2022-05-11T15:03:13+00:00

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Title	Ghosting and sacrifice
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Date	May 10, 2022 9:59 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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