Why do feminists use "incel" as an insult?

buried_alive0 · 2022-06-03T12:17:58+00:00

Do they really think a man isn't worthy unless he can fuck a woman?

Yes, and not just feminists think like that. Several average men and women do too. In my opinion this is related to the just world fallacy, among other things. They believe that if you can't get sex it must be because you're a horrible person. This is simply not true. There are several examples of evil men who had no problem getting women.

AdrijusSr · 2022-06-03T12:35:39+00:00

They use it as an argument on why are they correct (they are not correct)

mrbill1234 · 2022-06-03T12:39:12+00:00

When they don't have anything logical or intelligent to say, or counter an argument, they resort to shaming.

WetworkOrange · 2022-06-03T13:02:52+00:00

Same way they call women who don't agree with them as "Pick me" or any other term attacking a man's masculinity or inability to get with women. If you notice MOST women, feminist or not, when it comes to attacking men, 99% of their insults are based around a man's sexuality or his supposed inability to get with women or some variation of his penis/manhood.

AzyKool · 2022-06-03T15:14:07+00:00

The fact the term incel exists demonstrates why a man that gets laid a lot is a stud rather than manslut. Because men are the ones that have to hunt/impress. Getting laid is an achievement for men.

For women the achievement is being able to keep a man. But getting sex is effortless. This is why modesty and restraint is respected. Because it's about self control.

These are general social rules and people can pretend to think otherwise but it is what it is.

RubMobile2126 · 2022-06-03T13:21:16+00:00

I have called this out before and they try to say that it doesn't have anything to do with the meaning of the word. It is supposedly about the attitude of the incel men towards women. Feminists are under the impression that incel men feel entitled to their bodies. I don't get this type of thinking whatsoever. Being upset or disappointed about not having sex in a while does not equal entitlement at all. Imagine someone saying "I could really go for a burrito right now". Then someone responding, "Oh so you feel entitled to a burrito".

You should see the reaction when you say that pick up artists are important to our society now. I argue that pick up artists can help incels get laid and no longer be upset about the lack of sex in their lives. Of course they do not agree with this. Feminists do not want men to get sex while at the same time putting them down for not getting sex.

youropinionsaredumb · 2022-06-03T12:21:38+00:00

They think that they can hurt us by attacking us the same way male chauvinists attack us: By teasing us and judging us on the limits on our sexual access.

It's honestly gross. These women have internalized male chauvinism to oppress other men, because they assume (bigotedly) that they could never reach us in a good faith dialogue. In truth, they can reach us, but they are the ones unwilling to compromise, so it reinforces their sexism when compromise fails.

MCAlleycat · 2022-06-03T13:44:35+00:00

In formal logic there are what’s known as fallacies, and I’m sure you’ve heard of them, but specifically there is a subcategory of fallacies that have to do with relevance.

Really, addressing anything but the argument is considered irrelevant. So for talking with feminists it often has to do with claims about men. Suggesting something about the man that the feminist is speaking with is irrelevant. It doesn’t make any sense.

They have to address the actual point you’re making. But they won’t.

PlayfulLawyer · 2022-06-03T14:49:28+00:00

Because as much as those idiots go on about " don't slut/body shame women" and blah blah blah, they have no problem using basically you can't get laid or "small dick energy " as an insult, that's why you do not take those people seriously , you still have to take them as a threat because they are, but don't take them actually seriously in a lot of their stances

HulkPower · 2022-06-03T15:25:09+00:00

That's because they don't know anything about us, so they fall back on something that they think upsets us.

spectrumtwelve · 2022-06-03T18:13:35+00:00

For as long as it continues to hurt peoples feelings, people whose intentions are to hurt feelings will use whatever word they can to accomplish it. Really the only thing you can do about it is take power away from the word by not being offended by it eventually.

RandoCaljizzian69 · 2022-06-03T22:48:08+00:00

Because the unfuckable aren't real men to feminists. Men who are short, make insufficient money, and are not physically fit aren't real men according to feminists. The only real men in the eyes of a feminist are men who make six figures, are in positions of power, and are over six feet tall. That's why all the fights for "equity" are about about being on the board of directors for a fortune 500 company and not about being a truck driver, miner, framer, etc.

That's why all the body positivity crap is about loving fat women with stretch marks from having kids, not men under 6 feet, or even worse, men under 5'9". That's why the fight for gains in education aren't for little boys and young men to get through school and move onto college, its for women to to dominate STEM because its the last segment of education in which they aren't the majority (except the M part, women dominate medicine. Sciences too.)

CountBraaiTongs · 2022-06-03T13:37:16+00:00

Because the word no longer means what it does by definition - think "clown".

When they call you an incel, they mean it in a way that you are unlovable, ugly, poor, violent, misogynistic, and aren't worth sleeping with. Basically all the bad things.

August-7 · 2022-06-03T13:39:42+00:00

That is a good question,

Now hear me out, (I might have missed the mark completely) Now days, some societies (specially western ones) revolve around sex, everything in life is about sex, if they want to have fun, its sex, if they are living their life they mean sex, drinking and drugs. Freedom to women means for them to whore themselves around, for men to be worthy of something they need to be successful with women, so words like chad are celebrated, but worda like geek or nerd is taken more in a negative light.

To see it clearly look at a usual way of living for example in the US, females in their 20s go in what they call (the hoe phase -total bs in my opinion) they make some extremely stupid choices that will most likely bite them in the ass in the future, but they don't care, and later on they want to have a family or whatever, and its their SOs job to accept them for who they are, because past is the padt ai.

Knowing that, those females think that when they shame someone in that way, they are hitting their core, not knowing that it only shows how shallow, meaningless and empty their life is.

ManuelVazquez46 · 2022-06-03T12:16:26+00:00

It’s just one of those weird paradoxes imo

Maxwelpet · 2022-06-03T21:13:43+00:00

Incels defining characteristic ironically isn't their inability to have sex it is their hatred of women. If they wanted to insult based purely on your inability to get laid then they would just call you a virgin. But if you state rhetoric like " women are hypocrites who hate men unless they are attractive like ryan reynolds." Or " women call me creepy but if i was cute they call me funny."

Also, there are shitty people in every subculture no matter what group it may be. Plenty of feminists are totally chill people who simply want equal rights, equal pay for equal work, and to live without fear of being assaulted by men. Which if you ask me, is not a lot to ask. Is there misandry in the movement? Of course. Does that make feminists as a whole man hating women who should mind their own? Of course not.

Aligatorz · 2022-06-03T21:47:07+00:00

Why do they use incel?

There are multiple reasons for this. The first is simply put, they are just trying to ''hit you where it hurts'' , because they absolutely hate you for saying things that offend them.

Calling a person an incel is an easy way to both deflect their valid criticisms, while also belittling them as a person. Yes this goes against everything feminists say they stand for ( equal rights, inclusivity, compassion for the other sex etc) , but that just goes to show they dont actually care about any of those things. They are just female supremacists who want everyone else to shut up and submit.

The second reason is political. The mainstream media is in a constant state of trying to demonize political opponents. One of the ways they do this is by trying to connect ''the right'' to terrorism. As you can see here , this ''Alt Right pyramid'' perfectly summarizes my point (it is not from the MSM but it is their same line of thinking). As you can see they make massive logical leaps, like claiming someone who watches the Christian TV channel and Fox news is a potential white supremacist terrorist ( I guess that would imply every white suburban grandma is a potential terrorists lol)

using the same way of thinking as the Pyramid I linked above, there is a concerted effort by left wing types to make incel seem like a literal terrorist ideology . Again they make these massive logical leaps and claim that every guy who is bitter and lonely is this same as a mass murdering terrorist. Its the same line of thinking as the ''Satanic panic'' from the 70s, which claimed every metal band and rock group were the same as literal human sacrificing satanists simply because they shared similar pagan imagery.

In short its just a stupid term used by ignorant people..

LandscapeClear1630 · 2022-06-03T22:47:51+00:00

Incel is the equivalent of slut

thealphateam · 2022-06-03T13:04:52+00:00

I always laugh. Women are sluts. There is no shortage of pussy out there.

TheOkayBoomer · 2022-06-03T12:56:31+00:00

Pushback against the term femcel.

budnugglet · 2022-06-03T15:40:26+00:00

This is how a lot of women work. Exhibit A: Pete Davidson. Since Pete slept with Ariana Grande, high-profile female celebrities have vied for his dick. "He must be desirable if she wanted him."

LadyNCO · 2022-06-03T15:46:19+00:00

It seems to me; the greatest come back to being called an incel is to inform the feminist that he has gotten more dick than she has.

akihonj · 2022-06-03T17:19:12+00:00

Feminists are the quintessential meme for hypocrisy, rave about judging a persons value through sex and use an adhomenim attack by placing a persons value based on sex.

If they call you an incel just take that your argument wins because they have no counter argument so go to cheap insults.

InformalCriticism · 2022-06-03T19:17:28+00:00

You're right that there is hypocrisy in their attitude here, but really they just don't know what to call people, so they try to say whatever they think will hurt someone's feelings, usually based on nothing more than you disagree with them. It's a sign of a weak mind.

SsilverBloodd · 2022-06-03T20:12:22+00:00

At first, it was used to designate men who complain about not getting any and blaming women for it, which is pathetic, especially if it is done publicly. Now radical feminists throw this word arround anytime someone disagrees with them. It was never used to insult people for being single/intercourseless.

philosolondon · 2022-06-03T20:20:42+00:00

Lack of imagination

Icy-Wallaby4326 · 2022-06-03T20:50:24+00:00

It’s used ALL the time so it’s already meaningless.

Bridimum · 2022-06-03T20:52:14+00:00

they belong here r/femcelwhine

SuperiorFarter · 2022-06-03T20:59:58+00:00

Please stop taking them seriously

BeepBeepYeah7789 · 2022-06-03T23:23:42+00:00

Like I said on another post about the term "incel", it is used against a lot of men, even those whom I dare to say have probably had sex and/or are in committed relationships.

I visit the subs for the various dating sites/apps (and dating in general) and I see the word "incel" used against men who have complaints about the attitudes and behaviors of many women on the dating sites/apps.

It's basically a silencing and shaming tactic, as others have said.

Bassinium_1049 · 2022-06-03T23:37:49+00:00

Many users in this thread are making some spot on points. I think another reason why women do that is because they can't handle our criticism against them.

As a 23 year old kissless virgin for a long time I was tricked into thinking the only reason why i'm single is because it's my fault. I certainly can identify my own problems; I don't handle rejection well, I catch feelings too quickly, and being introverted I don't try as hard as I should. Then I began to learn that women are equally if not more at fault. And i'm not the only young man who realized that, given the rise in male loneliness and virginity. And no, that's not to say I only care about sex. I think I can speak for most lonely young men when I say we would much rather be intimate with someone who we can trust, someone who actually cares about us, and someone who is worth our time in the long-run.

Women are more picky and hypergamous, they're not the ones who approach and risk rejection, they're more likely to be seeing multiple people at once, and it seems like they're more interested in hook-up culture than a romantic relationship. Dating is just easier for them when they don't truly realize how hard it is for a lot of men. I would even go as far as to say, when I was an adolescent, I was told that women do like nice guys and they don't care about money or status. Believing in Disney fairytales didn't help much either.

It's the moment we try to point out this difference or, god forbid, get frustrated about it. The bottom line is it's all just Ad-hominem and personal attacks because they don't have an actual argument. I would be lying if I said it doesn't hurt though, trying to silence us, labeling us as misogynists and women haters so that we're not taken seriously. Because they don't care about our misfortunes or grievances when it comes to dating.

nacho-chonky · 2022-06-03T23:50:55+00:00

Just another way feminists say obviously sexist things daily then hypocritically claim they have anything to do with equality, sorry Karen but hating men isn’t equality

Last_Article_5968 · 2022-06-03T23:51:09+00:00

Somebody who cant/didnt fuck is a virgin, somebody who blames women for his virginity is called an incel

ChaseThePyro · 2022-06-04T00:06:23+00:00

They say this because incels act like women are only valuable for sex or exhibit other ideas and behaviors that attribute some absolute value to sex or sexuality. It isn't about judging them because they just never had sex, it's because their behavior is incredibly detrimental to their pursuit for sexual gratification, as moralizing and shaming is not a great way to find partners.

SnooSongs8797 · 2022-06-03T13:04:06+00:00

I think they mean incel as in those guys who hate women and always complain about how they can’t get any and blame it an everyone else even tho it’s probably their fault

pnoecker · 2022-06-03T15:35:57+00:00

Because they're lesbians and think pussy is the only thing women have to offer and are bragging that they get more pussy than you do. Tldr: they're fucking stupid

SaintLogic · 2022-06-03T17:54:46+00:00

It really is an instinctual reaction.

Similarly how it is common for men to find women with many lovers unattractive; women hold the same lack of attraction towards men with little to no sexual experience.

A man who cannot get laid is a man that women view as lesser. Basically, a man's value is connected directly to the number of women he can bed. The more women want him, the more attractive he will appear.

A very rich get richer, poor get poorer situation.

Ironically though, while it is entirely natural, they follow into the hypocritical mindset that while they shun men into finding women with many lovers unattractive, they then go and shame men for having little experience.

DownVotesWrongsOnly · 2022-06-04T01:07:45+00:00

They believe in equality.

So if a man can only have value by satisfying women, then that means women can only have value if they can ...

functionalsociopathy · 2022-06-03T13:40:28+00:00

They rely on women's sexuality being valuable for all of their rhetoric because relying on something useful for value requires actual effort. Both men and women buy into the nonsense too, so "incel" essentially projects their own worthlessness onto the target.

ThatThingThatIsThere · 2022-06-03T13:47:56+00:00

It's more about the associations with Incels, such as the ideologies and beliefs that appeared to propagate from the group that took that definition. Which is valid, a lot of people who identify as Incels also have secondary beliefs which have a narrow scope of acceptable personhood for both men and women. In brief.

Suspicious-Shop-5513 · 2022-06-03T17:18:06+00:00

It's basically women admitting their only value and contribution is a hole. Must be sad

skcornivek1 · 2022-06-03T21:19:08+00:00

They use incel because sex is the only unit of value they have experience with, and can understand.

Constant-Equipment30 · 2022-06-03T18:56:14+00:00

It's not shaming for not having sex, it's shaming the ideas those people have. They are often very bitter towards women and it shows through their opinions.

idiotbusyfor40sec · 2022-06-03T21:50:32+00:00

Well to be fair there’s a different between an incel and a virgin

A virgin is just someone who’s never had sex

An incel is someone who thinks they’re owed sex

Futureman999 · 2022-06-04T00:07:51+00:00

It's all they've got.

Also it makes them feel powerful getting to decide who is worthy or too-worthless-to-live based on access to their crotch hole.

Disregard dudes climbing mountains, creating great music and art, building nuclear reactors and spaceships - nothing matters but the crotch hole. Apparently.

Want to trigger a feminist? Tell her you're completely turned off by overweight women, to the point you would rather stay home and masturbate to porn featuring skinny chicks. She will lose her mind.

huff-glue · 2022-06-03T15:10:33+00:00

The common use of the word incel doesn’t just mean someone who is a virgin and is actively looking for sex or a relationship. It is someone who believes they are entitled to sex and has become bitter and antagonistic towards women because they haven’t been able to get sex. They blame their failure on women being whores who only want chads instead of looking inwards and asking themselves what they have to offer in a relationship. If these conditions aren’t met then you aren’t really an incel. Incel could even apply men who aren’t virgins but don’t get as much sex as they want and still think women are the source of all their problems.

Work on yourself, be someone worth dating, don’t expect anyone to fuck you just because you were kind to them, don’t treat women like npcs in a romance questline and treat them like a normal person. Nobody with half a brain will call you an incel if you aren’t a bitter piece of shit about being a virgin.

An example I would give would be fds femcels. They do nothing but hate post about men on online forums but expect Prince Charming to sweep them off their feet. Prince Charming is never coming if you have nothing to offer, and the same can be said inversely for incels. I’m not antifeminist but hope this helps

Fair-Lie7125 · 2022-06-03T13:09:16+00:00

You are completely wrong. Its the men that think men are only worthy if they have sex. Incels are self-creating and self-defeating. They always come up with nee bullshit reasons why they cant get women.

unshak3n · 2022-06-03T22:02:59+00:00

Because one of the most valuable thing they offer is sex (some would say the only thing, but anyway).

So, sex is very important for them.

Thus, shaming men who don't sex.

Boxisteph · 2022-06-03T21:22:55+00:00

Because most men value themselves by their attractiveness to women at least once in their life.

It's like calling a man trying to seem macho a mummies boy. A clear wound to poke your finger in.

I mean feminists call men a lot of things. You decided to make a post about this one.

WhyWouldTrumpDoThis · 2022-06-03T21:29:06+00:00

Because there is nothing more revolting on a base level to most women than a low status man.

When they call you incel, whether it's true or not, they are saying you aren't worth the dignity of being considered a human being.

ThePigmanAgain · 2022-06-03T21:30:53+00:00

Sex has nothing to do with it, it's just a meaningless insult like a bundle of kindling or that lazy mispronunciation of Negro.

DangerCheck · 2022-06-03T22:36:28+00:00

Psychological projection.

They accuse others of what they’re guilty of, guys don’t wanna fuck crazy and they never get laid so they assume people who disagree with them never get laid either.

Diomil · 2022-06-03T22:39:09+00:00

They use it as an insult because men take it as an insult

Ou-tis · 2022-06-03T23:05:05+00:00

Women judging men by their ability to get sex is an indirect admission that the only value women have lies in the fact that they have boobs and vagina.

Women know well this,but they don't want you to openly discuss it. They weaponize or monetize sex in order to get what they want,it's a tool for them. They also use the threat of not getting sex or the accuse to not getting sex to win argument or discredit men who don't align with the current social norms.

I can't count the time I was called "incel" or "you never touched a woman" but the reality is I don't give a damn about what a stranger find offensive.

RyuShinGen · 2022-06-03T23:36:29+00:00

That is their default argument.

Shame, Insults, Guilt and The Need to be Right. Accountability is like kryptonite.

Rest In Peace godfather.

BlueSerge · 2022-06-04T00:18:53+00:00

Volcel pride month in July. Nothing good happens by being led around by your pecker.

DefiantDepth8932 · 2022-06-04T03:07:52+00:00

To be fair I feel like theh accuse you of having the same beliefs as the extremist movement of internet incels. It's like calling someone a fascist. But when they call you a virgin, they're definitely just insult you based on your sexual experiences

Flappyturd_21 · 2022-06-04T09:38:11+00:00

The word incel has become just such a generic insult it basically doesn’t have a meaning anymore

Aimless-Nomad · 2022-06-04T10:32:10+00:00

To answer your question, yes. That is what they think.

Every single feminist criticizing some guy always has the line 'even if he was the last guy on earth i still wouldn't fuck him'. They see themselves as gods gift to earth and are truly delusional.

xarexen · 2022-06-05T10:29:18+00:00

Do they really think a man isn't worthy unless he can fuck a woman?

Yeah. Didn't you notice how they're overly fixated on how their own sexual behaviour is judged by others? It's projectiin.

Foreverlonely82 · 2022-06-03T20:04:06+00:00

Because they think we don't smash..that's all I got.

Wingflier · 2022-06-03T20:58:45+00:00

In my opinion, it's meant as a smear. The implication is that the only reason you're against Feminism is because you hate and despise women, and the only reason you can't stand women is because of your sexual frustration because you can't get laid.

It's a horrible argument and really meant to shut down any kind of discussion or rebuttal on your part since it targets your masculinity and social worth.

As it just so happens however, it's not actually true. In my own case, the more success I've experienced with women, the more sex I have, and the more my game has improved, the more respect I lose for them overall. Because I realize that what I was doing wrong my whole life was not playing these silly and manipulative little emotional mind games and engaging in acts of pettiness and emotional immaturity that go against everything I once stood for.

And I blame Feminism for that. It's poisoned several generations of women to be emotionally unstable and addicted to toxicity, seeking it as the norm.

Title	Why do feminists use "incel" as an insult?
Author	Forgetaboutthelonely
Upvotes	258
Comments	106
Date	June 3, 2022 12:08 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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