How should I cultivate healthy violence and aggression in myself?

wtknight · 2022-09-05T13:55:30+00:00

Removed. No men asking men or women asking women questions.

StarchRunner · 2022-09-05T09:44:17+00:00

The one time a bunch of guys tried bully into a fight, i was scared, didn't act or do anything. Just kept walking.

Yeah well, that’s the smart thing to do, especially with a bunch of guys opposing you. Ip Man bullshit doesn’t exist irl and a street fight can fuck you up real good, even with 20 years karate experience or some other bullshido.

It sounds like you need testosterone, like most of the west. And it’s low in the west due to poor diet. Get off the processed foods, eat your greens and more unprocessed plants overall.

Anyway, think less aggression and more assertion. Society looks down on aggressive people. Assertive people otoh are CEO material.

Ludens0 · 2022-09-05T09:40:45+00:00

Hey!

I'm in that boat too.

What I do is martial arts. You do exercise, you fight in a controlled environment and there is a lot of them, some will fit you.

They also prepare you for a situation.

Being agressive outside that for no reason is terrible idea.

Also, learning to fight is good, women should be irrelevant for that decision.

MAGA-Latino · 2022-09-05T09:47:02+00:00

Oh God be careful there my friend.

Maybe you should start by trying out some boxing or MMA or something. Make that part of your workout. It'll boost your testosterone which will make you more masculine. Not to mention it will make you give out a vibe that you're not to be messed with.

I think that'll be your best bet. To make you tough without actually having to fight. I don't think you should be trying to fight guys to impress the ladies. This isn't HS, you can get yourself arrested and end up with a criminal record, or maybe even shot.

Yes I know plenty of chick's are attracted to that but I don't think they are worth it. Let the thugs have them.

I think the real reason those guys are like that is because they are really losers and that's how to provide. By risking their lives. I grew up in the hood and I seen many guys ruin their lives like that.

NocturnalCoder · 2022-09-05T09:41:24+00:00

I am not sure what you are asking. I mean, agression and Violence? I think what it boils down to is when a guy attacks you, can you defend yourself. All the rest of violence is too much for me personally. ASA recommendation: go do martial arts. Good for your health, good for your mind and you learn how to defend yourself

RavioliPocketoli1999 · 2022-09-05T09:53:23+00:00

I personally believe that’s pretty cookie cutter, no offense. You should be how you want to be not whoever is wanting you to be this way.

Regardless partaking in any form of physical activity in your off time is beneficial towards both your physical and mental health. Activities such as weight lifting, hiking, martial arts.

Admittedly I’m not assertive, aggressive nor violent however when situations happen where I need to be, I had the physical capabilities that would give me what I needed to rise to the occasion.

Specifically I would recommend starting a beginner lifting program, eating a diet consisting of higher protein and vegetables, and going to a martial arts school if you can find one (Muay Thai is amazing btw)

statsfodder · 2022-09-05T10:06:37+00:00

Think of that side of masculinity as a sword. Waving it around for no reason is dangerous to yourself and others. Most times you can get by with never having to unsheath it. But for sure learn about it and practice with it in a safe controlled environment.

Martial arts or some light contact sports is a good start.

Lothial · 2022-09-05T13:59:25+00:00

You've misinterpreted. Being attracted to violence and aggression is a major red flag. What is attractive is the ability to handle any given situation. Sometimes that requires physicality so it's important to keep your body in a condition to do that if necessary. The rest is simply confidence.

I can tell you for myself, and a lot of other guys the best way to achieve both in a healthy way is to build. If you're not in a position to do so due to finances or living arrangements some volunteer work with habitat for humanity is good or look for some weekend help wanted adds.

If you're not already on a career path consider a trade. Dig, work with concrete, swing a hammer, carry, use your physicality to accomplish something. It reinforces your body, and gives you confidence in your strength, and your ability to use it.

Notsonewguy7 · 2022-09-05T09:43:34+00:00

Boxing.

Hoopy223 · 2022-09-05T13:10:05+00:00

Perhaps go to the gym and learn a little boxing or self defense (karate etc)?

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ManWazo · 2022-09-05T10:52:48+00:00

There's nob"healthy violence", the same way there are no "healthy ketamine addiction".

ChudBuck · 2022-09-05T10:59:56+00:00

Most important rule that is essential for all men regardless of what your passions are, lift weights

Idc if you're into fashion, music, sports, underwater basket weaving, gaming, ect. All of your ancillary activities get enhanced by lifting no matter how non physical they seem

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2022-09-05T11:32:25+00:00

Take some martial arts classes. It will teach you the reality of violence and you'll understand It's not worth getting your teeth punched out to impress a woman. Also it won't impress many women.

Any-Bottle-4910 · 2022-09-05T12:10:42+00:00

I’d start by asking why you think violence and aggression are laudable in a man? They are not. The capacity for it is manly; and I can get into why women (have told me) it’s attractive a little later. I would then ask a question I think I already know the answer to: where was your dad growing up? He should’ve clued you into how this all works and why it all works the way it works on a societal level. Any biology textbook will tell you the underlying reasons for it and why women unconsciously respond to it. Lastly, I would ask a question that has always been okay to ask in a non-bullying way, but causes a group meltdown lately: what’s your weight and exercise look like?

So, being a violent man is not a good thing. Neither women, nor other men, nor society at large are in favor of it. Why, you might reasonably ask, do women consistently decry that behavior, but consistently fuck the men who seem to be that way? The answer there is twofold:

1- Evolution. We are mammals. Protection from animals, natural phenomena, and other men who want to mate or r$pe is a biologically determined role that male mammals play. Primates are no different, and humans are primates. We’re not above the animal kingdom. We are part of it. We are animals. Full stop. Something most people cannot or will not understand is that most of what we do is entirely instinctual, and most of the sliver that’s left isn’t consciously decided the way people imagine it is. Even our conscious mind operates mostly as a justification engine for our instinctual urges. It’s difficult to hear, and women in particular seem to take offense at the idea. I don’t know why, and I won’t try to get in their heads to cook up some bs answer for it. I’ll let one of them tackle that.

2- People are unerringly dishonest about what turns them on. Lately, the online dating scene has provided real data to prove this. So, while women don’t want a bully for a relationship, they are sexually attracted to the big strong confident guy who can dominate a situation. It’s a quandary for them, and a difficult balancing act to pick a man who can play both ways when needed. Much like how men will happily screw someone who hits all the hotness markers and signals her desire to screw someone today, we don’t tend to pair-mate with that person, as they won’t likely make a trusted partner - women will quietly run off with a man who hits all the markers listed above, but aren’t likely to lock into a relationship with him publicly or at all. For the guy sleeping with the sl*tty one, his instincts make him screw, but he suspects he won’t know if offspring are his and he can’t trust that she’ll stick around. For the girl sleeping with the brute, her instincts makes her screw, but she suspects he won’t be gentle with her in the long run (though a rough hard bedroom session is highly desirable to most of them), nor will he be gentle with the kids, and he isn’t likely to thrive and provide big $$$ in our civilized world. Some will stick around when they’re young because “he’s exciting”, but most mature women know better and avoid these guys apart from a one-off. This ties into the typical modern situation where a nicer dude is married to a woman who has a child or two with a dipshit ex. Did he have a job? No. Was he nice? Fuck no. But he was 6’3, covered in tattoos, and “made her feel safe” when they were out together. Then, real life showed we don’t live in caves anymore, and a better option was needed. When push comes to shove, those guys suck to pair bond with.

My own wife, who is a drop dead gorgeous Brazilian massage therapist could’ve locked in any guy she wanted. At 18 she chose a hard fighting rock band guy. He was, in the end, exactly who you imagine he was. Total loser. But he was dominant, and for younger women the ability to dominate gets confused with actual domination of themselves. Like so many young people, her genitals made the decisions until her mind matured and she got the heck out of dodge. Then, we met….

She’s been clear and honest about us. I was almost too nice, but as a bartender/manager with muscles, she got to see me be a social focal point (attractive), in charge (attractive), and watched me beat the stuffing out of jerks and idiots (attractive). Her words: “you were actually a bit too nice, but you were popular and had a hard edge, so that made it ok. That and all these other girls wanted you, so that was fun for me. It’s why I would randomly kiss you sometimes, to show them you were taken.”

She’s an intelligent person, but when it came to “us” it was still gorilla thinking. At least she’s cognizant and honest about it all.

This isn’t just women either. She was tall, thin, fit, and had a great jawline and huge breasts. Once I saw her “kick ass and take names” attitude, I was beyond the realm of rational thought. My dick was running the show. We’re monkeys, sir.

So, how should you get yourself into that sweet spot of aggression-capable but not an asshole?

1- Make yourself capable of it. Lift weights and lose fat so you seem capable of protection or dominance with other men. Balance that with not acting like a vain Uber-Chad once you get built up.

2- stand up for yourself! Women cannot stand a pushover. Balance that with allowing little things to be brushed off. No one wants an angry defensive type either.

3- take a boxing or jujitsu class 2-3 times per week for a minimum of 2 years. You seem preoccupied with the fighting aspect of being a man, and this will give you some confidence when speaking with other men. One of the things that is a feature of the difference between men’s communication vs women’s communication, is the underlying threat of physical violence when two men converse. Whether you understand this or not, you knowing that you have absolutely no idea how to fight makes you take a subservient role when you speak to other men. If it does not do this to you, then truly there has been no male influence in your life and you don’t imagine anything could ever end in violence. You yourself said you’ve never been in a fight before. I actually think that’s fantastic, but some sparring should be in your future so you at least understand what it’s all about. But please, temper that by still avoiding fights - not from fear, but from being a rational and calm man. Women like a man who can remain calm. So cultivate confident calmness. I cannot over stress this last sentence enough. Calm and confident.

4-FFS don’t get a gun for these reasons. It’s like needing tequila to talk to a girl. It doesn’t give you anything but unearned bravado. This is especially dangerous if you’ve felt unmanly previously. You’ll be unconsciously tempted to over-compensate, and that can lead to trouble. Deadly trouble. Just…. Don’t.

5- last thing… if you get all these things right, don’t start bragging about it. Just hold your new self-respect on the inside. It’ll shine through. Bragging is cringey. Just be you, you wonderful person you.

2022-09-05T12:11:40+00:00

Avoid always a street fight if it's possible! After many years of martial arts I'm really glad that I never had to fight a bounch of strangers.

Even Jocko Willink, ex-NAVY Seal and Jiu Jitsu black belt tells we should always avoid a fight. Keep it in mind, that aggressors are brave only with their buds behind their back. If you see one be sure his buds are also arround in the near.

Otherwise you can try Jiu Jitsu or Muay Thai. The knowledge and power give you a healthy confident and a decent shape.

DerekMorganBAU · 2022-09-05T12:15:00+00:00

I don’t fight I carry my gun fuck all that street fights are not it

ExpensiveShoulder580 · 2022-09-05T12:17:48+00:00

You're asking how to become a monkey for women. You want to do aggressive dances to impress women.

That will only get you manipulated and used for entertainment because people can feel the fake-ness of your aggression.

It won't get you closer to your goal, and even if you do manage to impress a woman, it won't be long till she finds out the real you is a pussy and leaves.

First and foremost do some soul searching and find out/set your core values.

Then set some clear boundaries that you wouldn't let anyone cross. They can be really close boundaries that are hard to cross at first. You can expand your borders with time like the state of israel. When you have boundaries and someone crosses them, tell them, because once you say it out loud, your brain will start thinking of better ways you could have voiced your boundaries and you can use that better idea next time.

You should also take care of your physical health, as in get some quality sleep, food and exercise (weights and cardio) extremely important.

Lastly get into a martial arts sport that will accustom you to confrontation. It's okay to be scared of confrontation as long as you do something about it.

Chase risk.

Laytheblameonluck · 2022-09-05T12:23:34+00:00

It's only after we've lost everything that we are free to do anything.

LooseNectarine7295 · 2022-09-05T12:49:12+00:00

Your looking at it all wrong. You should always try to avoid conflict in every situation, I’ve been doing judo for 12 years and will always try to deesculate a situation before I put hands up. This is the smart and logical thing to do what you need to do is start training in mma, learn how to fight and how to defend yourself. Before I started doing martial arts I was surprised to find out that most people do not know how to fight at all so doing so will give you an upper hand. Although it’s great to have i also carry a gun that’s mandatory.

prizefighterstudent · 2022-09-05T13:03:09+00:00

I think the easy take is martial arts like Muay Thai or BJJ. Another less talked about element is to take more reasonable risk in your life, whether it be socially, starting a business, or with your money.

Capitalizing on risk will give you more opportunities, but also result in more L's that you have to swallow. It'll help you build thicker skin and tackle life with more of an edge. It'll also teach you to handle rejection more gracefully.

Title	How should I cultivate healthy violence and aggression in myself?
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