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Millions of men are leaving the workforce. Here's the lasting impact that has on the economy.

Dizzirron

February 24, 2023
123 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/millions-of-men-are-leaving-the-workforce-heres-the-lasting-impact-that-has-on-the-economy/ar-AA17Qc1i
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Title Millions of men are leaving the workforce. Here's the lasting impact that has on the economy.
Author

Dizzirron

Upvotes 123
Comments 43
Date February 24, 2023 4:33 AM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/11aij62/millions_of_men_are_leaving_the_workforce_heres/
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[–]Terrible_Head_8847 55 points56 points57 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

They really suggested video games as a possible cause 🤣

[–]xkirbz 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Trash economists...

[–]lifesuckswannadie 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They aren't wrong. Video games have gotten so good that it provides a strong alternative to working. One of the reasons I don't work right now is to play videogames

[–]Character_Pirate_618 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here. I retired early and spend most of my time on my computer surfing porn and playing video games. Better than working for a country that demonizes, demoralizes and marginalizes me. Men should also not enlist in the military.

[–]bmania77 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool i write game apps.

[–]DutchOnionKnight 38 points39 points40 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder why men are leaving. There couldn't possibly some requirements nowadays that exclude men for applying?

I am always so curious why people think we are leaving places where we are been discriminated, bullied, insulted, and according to them are the reason for opression. But when shit hit the fan we, apparently, need to answer the wolves that cry? Don't think so. Time to learn about responsibility, and accountability.

[–]Acousmetre78 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I worked at Bank of America where my boss criticized my looks and women would openly talk sexually about coworkers. As a guy I’d mention how that might make some uncomfortable. People just call you a pussy if you say I’m uncomfortable with hot cock talk at 10am at work.

[–]TheNerdWonder 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And many in society will never learn that it literally cannot function effectively without men. They'll try and then fail miserably.

[–]xkirbz 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"A 2021 study by the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond also cites a rise in male substance abuse and even heavy video game use."

They need to find some scapegoat. So pathetic...I highly doubt this is an actual reason. What a dogshit article...

[–]lifesuckswannadie 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why work? A lot of men in the past only worked to attract women and support their family.

A lot of men are single right now so don't need to work for a house or a wife or anything. Why bother

[–]KaiIsComing 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why work? A lot of men in the past only worked to attract women and support their family.

That is the purpose men were born with - to lead a family.

But today, women have financial autonomy and traditional gender roles are abolished. Men don't have an incentive anymore. Personally, I force myself to become materialistic as to give myself an incentive to work. But it's hard, if I am living alone, I am totally fine with meeting only basic necessities.

[–]GoodeBoi 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Traditional gender roles for women have been abolished, at least in the west. For men, not so much. There still comes a stigma to being anything other than what traditional gender roles wish for men.

[–]lifesuckswannadie 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Most men are not materialistic, we do all thst crap ultimately for women and a potential family. If that doesn't exist many will not bother anymore

[–]Unnecessary_Timeline 79 points80 points81 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In January, the share of 25- to 54-year-old men working or job-hunting was at 88.5%, below the pre-pandemic mark of 89.2%. By contrast, the participation rate for women in that age group had climbed to 76.9%, effectively back to its pre-COVID level of 77%.

Maybe the government should ask themselves why they’re focusing so much on men leaving the job market, instead of why so many women never even enter it.

[–]NeoNotNeo 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo.

[–]ReniaTycoon 70 points71 points72 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Well society treats men as second class 'privileged' members of society and demonize them. Men get hardly any support and entitled women make it a pain of ordeals and trials just for men to be in relationships or even date them. Men are lonely, frustrated, and lack support while women have so many extra chances and avenues for education and training. Maybe many men are finally starting to realize that being the backbone of their nation doing work to keep this society and infrastructure operating is simply not worth it. Why stress out so much working just to pay taxes to a system that demeans you and sees you as disposable. A society where if he were to find a woman he's legally under her in case of divorce and family court rights. Supporting and paying taxes to a system like that is totally unnecessary.

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Keep it up guys now we need another 2-5 million men to quit their careers in critical and vital fields. This would cause an uproar and officials and media would be asking why when the economy is collapsing and I'm quit sure men would respond with valid MRA complaints. In this situation officials would listen so they can get their revenue and economy back to a healthy level. Maybe this type of thing is what men need to do.. show the world and the femifisters just how vital men really are to the world and start respecting them.

[–]aerial_coitus 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe many men are finally starting to realize that being the backbone of their nation doing work to keep this society and infrastructure operating is simply not worth it. Why stress out so much working just to pay taxes to a system that demeans you and sees you as disposable.

this is MGTOW in a nutshell ^

officials would listen

nope. sorry but the officials will never listen to the plight of the modern male until it is too late. we are rapidly approaching that point (if we are not there already). the myopic focus on feminism and female empowerment regardless of the adverse effects and costs on males will be the undoing of western culture as we know it.

[–]Dapper_Platform_1222 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But...but...but....we need women in positions of leadership

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

another 2-5 million men to quit their careers in critical and vital fields.

This is not spoken of nearly enough. If men went on strike, society would grind to a halt immediately. Women are certainly capable of doing the many dirty and dangerous jobs that keeps the wheels of society turning but they CHOOSE not to.

I have heard others say that women no longer need men but they have effectively married the state instead. Except that the "state" is in many cases men who do the work to keep the gears of society going. Men, that many women would also feel are beneath their standards and would not look twice at.

[–]BoomTheBear86 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, the choice element is often overlooked or handwaved away as “barriers”.

This myth is utterly busted by facts. Look at the Scandinavian countries for example. They’re some of the most egalitarian in the world when it comes to accessibility in working spheres for genders compared to anywhere else in the world.

The result? The distribution of men to women and vice versa working in their “traditional spheres” of activity is actually more pronounced than elsewhere in the world.

Even when you make it so barriers are not there and every opportunity is available to encourage either gender to pursue opportunities typical to the other gender, tempting them even, but stopping short of coercing them, they CHOOSE to distribute themselves this way.

What do you do about that? Because it seems that due to this observation the only way you can remedy the problem of “not enough women in high paying infrastructure” etc is you literally FORCE a certain amount of women do these jobs, which obviously sounds nuts if your basic premise is ensuring freedom.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The result? The distribution of men to women and vice versa working in their “traditional spheres” of activity is actually more pronounced than elsewhere in the world.

This is fascinating! So it seems it never was The Patriarchy™ holding women back. Societies actually organize themselves according to our evolutionary instincts and it isn't some conspiracy by men who want to keep women down or limited in what they can do.

[–]wannabetriton 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Scandinavian’s egalitarian culture stems from their past of having to depend on one another, men and women.

[–]ReniaTycoon 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Exactly this is how I feel. I hate it when women say "I don't need a man" of "men are worthless the world would be better without them" ugh. The car they drive would not have fuel or even have been made without men. The devices they love like their phones would not exist without men nor would the electricity they are dependent on as men still maintain and built the electric and power infrastructure. Stores would be barren or have price hikes for food without men farming and transporting goods etc. The way things are women need men for basic survival more than men need women by like an immense margin. However modern feminists are somehow to stupid to think about this even though it's so simple.

[–]Maxi-Spade 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree, but it's really different in Canada. It's not the same as it is in America. The men in my country don't even know about men's rights. It seems the only males that know about men's rights are the one's that may get hit by an issue they feel is unfair. Not the ones who just accept the feminists here.

I have asked men if you know about men's rights? No, and they don't know. The only way it will change is if we kick Trudeau with all this immigration happening. That's probably why he got the votes.

Now we got a man who wants to be the next prime minister who goes for the jugular with Trudeau. Maybe he could be a man's right activist? I should put it out there eh?

Pierre Poilievre https://youtu.be/5ZaVfEHxs30

[–]shit-zen-giggles 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://equalitycanada.com/ has done quite a few amazing things for men in Canada.

I don't claim that it is widespread or has public appeal, but they are one of the most developed Men's Rights organisation by international comparison.

[–]ApplicationClassic19 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

By the time they train enough women to replace men the society would already be in chaos. There are a lot of critical fields where women barely participate, so they have no knowledge or trainings there. If men went on strike tomorrow, we are looking at months, if not years, before they can be replaced.

[–]shit-zen-giggles 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dr. Helen Smith wrote & published Men on strike in 2012 (iirc)

[–]Character_Pirate_618 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep it up guys now we need another 2-5 million men to quit their careers in critical and vital fields.

This is what I did. I was tired of being demonized so I flipped 'em the bird and retired very early. Fuck 'em.

[–]Spare_Development615 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The west threw its men overboard 50 years ago.

Now they import busloads of new suckers from third world countries to keep the ponzi scheme going.

[–]Character_Pirate_618 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Retire early, don't marry, don't cohabit, don't impregnate. Rebel. Disobey. Fight back.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

b-but who will help fund the extravagant lifestyles all those mid 30s single moms are entitled to?

[–]kit-kat315 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

On the bright side, the labor shortage has been good for workers because it's giving them leverage to negotiate better compensation. I make 40% more than I did just two years ago- by switching companies and taking advantage of the lack of workers with my skillset (procurement). It's a similar story with a bunch of my friends and coworkers.

[–]solar-garlic1776 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's like mom used to say, I brought you into this world and I'll take you out.

Well, we built this mother fucker and we sure as hell can burn it down

[–]Longjumping_Cry4002 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But I’ve always been told women can do everything a man can do and sometimes better. So why is it an issue now? Feminists will have to step their game up. They’re letting the country down now. Step up. You go girl

[–]Character_Pirate_618 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I retired early specifically to fuck the federal government.

[–]Nihi1986 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Again one of these threads where we pretend men are 'leaving' the workforce or society because they are treated poorly...

No, it's not a symptom, it's one of the causes. Men aren't leaving the workforce and aren't leaving society, the economy in most countries is fucked up, many men can't even find a job and many men will leave jobs that are ruining their health with their awful conditions.

[–]HewoToYouToo 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guess who's gonna be most affected?

[–]A_British_Villain 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In this article, wages aren't high enough to be appealing.

Also in the same article, they want more workers so that the growth of wages could slow- it really is just rich people complaining about having to pay workers.

[–]parahacker 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Higher pay should be prodding at least some less-educated, lower-wage workers to return to the labor force."

Uh huh. Sure.

Get back to me on that one when wage increases a)aren't drowned out by inflation and b) allow average workers to support a basic family unit on a single income, as they did as recently as the 1980's.

Or hell, even just rent, utilities, food, transportation and health insurance for a single person without outside assistance that men are much less likely to receive...

When working a job and supporting yourself means you're losing money, it's no wonder why so men are opting out completely.

But yeah, sure, it's video games' fault. Ok boss

[–]Lonewolf_087 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not me, I love my job, my independence, my ability to mold and shape the country I live in. Wouldn't change a thing.

[–]Elterchet 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

all

All slaves need to work! wWhy they all do not work, every single on of them have to!

[–]Hooded_Eyes 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I work a regular job and have some financial sense but nowhere near retirement. Very little interaction with women (especially single or my age) in my work place. I put in the time I need to get home, locked away from social events and almost no presence on social media. I go home to work on my writing in between sessions of a video game that caught my interest (rare event) or not looking to immerse in any TV show or some kind of YouTube documentary channel.

The whole point of my existence is to avoid forming contacts or relationships. All that matters is money and my own comfort and my security. This is what I work for like some work for families. And I never have to worry about betraying myself.

[–]Maxi-Spade 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Move to Canada, guys. Only if you want to move? Check us out first!

Canada Jobs Canada Has Almost 1 Million Job Vacancies & These Provinces Want Workers

It's a worker's job market! https://www.narcity.com/canada-almost-1-million-job-vacancies-provinces-want-workers

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