I was skeptical of MRA but single moms shocked me.

Imdefender · 2019-01-01T05:12:18+00:00

I'm sorry you had this experience. And you on to something, so many people seem to think that men are not worth anything outside of their paycheck.... Then they wonder why men on average make then more money than women do

hendrixski · 2019-01-01T05:11:39+00:00

That's part of the reason why I became a teacher as a male -- to be the male role model some of my students never had. Growing up, I never had a dad, which screwed me up badly. My mother was very loving, but there are certain things fathers can teach their children that mothers cannot. Both parents are valuable.

Are all single parents bad? No -- of course not! But I hate how it's very promoted.

hendrixski · 2019-01-01T06:08:47+00:00

Reach out to National Parents Organization.

https://www.nationalparentsorganization.org/

40% of their constituency is female.

hendrixski · 2019-01-01T13:12:15+00:00

I am a MRA simply because of what I endured going through a divorce and child custody. Everything was favoured to my ex and there was a huge emphasis placed on her feelings, it was like they were the most important part. I was just an emotionless ATM.

This community helped me so much. It's easy to spiral out of control in to a ball of hate and vitriol and I wanted to so many times. My brothers (and sisters) on this sub are calm level headed people that talk you down from that crazy ledge.

JestyerAverageJoe · 2019-01-01T12:42:01+00:00

Time to watch the film The Red Pill (unrelated to the subreddit).

Lethn · 2019-01-01T13:58:58+00:00

People only see the heavily upvoted threads and immediately think because they're lazy twats they know everything about this movement. I suspect this is on purpose because it's certainly not MRAs or this community upvoting a lot of the stuff feminists whine about though it depends on how valid the points are in the topics.

As you say, there's plenty of serious issues that most people can't stomach, so they lash out at us in all sorts of ways. The most recent of which I'm convinced is feminists frequently brigading as well as others to try and discredit us all as much as possible.

The misandry is real and the conspiracy against the movement is real, I can safely say the majority of people here don't buy into conspiracy theory bullshit the way feminists do to justify their viewpoints when they're wrong however when you see entire institutions and people amassing to try and shut you down what other conclusion can you come to? lol.

It's not just single moms, people can't stomach the idea of women being abusive or violent in the slightest, so they claim we're 'anti-women' for pointing it out and hate that we call out feminists for covering it up, they won't stop us though. I think too many people now have become aware of what feminists are up too as they have overextended themselves and started infiltrating even mainstream media and so on an awful lot now as well as a lot of hobbies your average person enjoys.

hendrixski · 2019-01-01T05:15:23+00:00

Sounds like you’ve been redpilled.

Jex117 · 2019-01-01T12:20:30+00:00

I was skeptical of this place. You guys aren't easy to digest.

Honestly? You make an important point, this sub can be hostile, it can be toxic, and it can be antagonistic - but keep a few points in mind:

First off we're the unwilling destination for many altright & incel users who've found themselves migrating subreddits in a mass exodus when theirs got locked out. Anytime a genuine hatesub gets locked / closed, the migrant users tend to flock here. You'll find a lot of the political discussion on this sub is right-leaning for that reason. These people often skew legitimate discussions, spout hatred, and post irrelevant articles on the sub.

Secondly there's a lot of trolls who target this subreddit - quite often we get users who's comment history is all over /feminism and /twox, then they randomly show up here, pull a complete 180 on their comment content, start spouting the most hateful sexist shit they can think of, pretending to be a MRA to discredit the sub.

Thirdly is the bitterness and anger a lot of young men and boys are dealing with in our society. We're vilified and demonized by feminism and pop culture on daily basis, compared to dogs, openly discriminated against, our pain and sadness laughed at. There's a whole generation of bitter, angry young men who are looking for a place to vent it out, and ways to vent it out. Keep in mind that a lot of the guys here are dealing with a wealth of personal pain they've had to keep bottled up their entire life.

MRA-Sid · 2019-01-01T12:55:16+00:00

Unfortunately society doesn’t take men’s rights seriously in today’s time. It requires lots of work and support. MRAs are real human rights activists.

ConnorGracie · 2019-01-01T07:14:46+00:00

For women its about control and power, turning the kids against the father and maximizing the payments they get from him and the state.

MidWestMind · 2019-01-01T14:51:14+00:00

There’s also r/fathersforcustody which is newer and smaller that strictly for helping fathers during the custody trials.

2019-01-01T17:05:55+00:00

You have to understand that statistically the worst thing you can do to a kid is raise them in a single mother home (single father home have problems but not as many). All but one school shooter was from a single mother home, 72% of juvenile murders, 60% of rapist, 70% of inmates, 70% of teen births, 63% of teen suicides, 71% of teenage drug addicts, 80% of inmates, and 90% of runaways. They hate men because they're failures.

thxnwy · 2019-01-01T16:40:36+00:00

Welcome to the club, brother. I'd much rather have some fathers vent here vs blowing their brains out in desperation as they lose their lifetime savings, future earnings and the right to be with their own children. And way too many of them do.

dixieStates · 2019-01-01T19:33:32+00:00

I am a single dad, too, of a seven-year-old girl. My daughter was abused by her mother when she was an infant. Even with proof of the abuse and proof of fatherhood it took seven months of wrangling in family court for me to get custody.

The mother has been in jail numerous times (GTA, theft, burglary...) in the last seven years and I just do not think that contact with her mom would be a good thing. If mother wants to see daughter it will only be through a scheduled visitation with a professional social worker approved by me.

TruthGetsBanned · 2019-01-01T19:09:18+00:00

And another MRA is born. Welcome to reality, sir.

Now ask them what they think of the Paper Abortion, Equal Sentencing, Anonymity for the Accused Laws, and programs to ensure male equality in female dominated industries. Get ready to vomit as they respond with their evil misandry.

azazelcrowley · 2019-01-01T19:24:41+00:00

Plenty of the women who say they support equal custody only do so because it's their personal preference and they're in deep denial over the source of the problem, blaming silly shit like patriarchy. In truth the current set up is exactly what women demanded and asked for, it allows a woman to impose her preferred arrangement on the man whether that's equal or her parenting, the only one left outside would be the man doing the parenting because it's not something many women wanted.

When women who support equal custody pretend this system is unfair against them or refuse to note it's lopsided against men they willfully ignore that fact.

NOTHING scares most women more on this topic more than advancing mens actual interests and giving men the power to engage in legal parental surrender AS WELL AS having a right to joint custody if they request it, which reveals that those "Equal custody" Supporting women are merely women who place value on their careers, not respecting men's human rights and agency, and removing the power women have to impose a dynamic on them against their will. MRA women are a welcome exception.

The women who say they support equal custody don't actually care about men, they just think other women are doing it wrong and everyone should be forced to do it her way. Same as the women who support women being the primary carers think.

djc_tech · 2019-01-01T22:38:15+00:00

I dealt with this first hand. I filed a petition for custody and had her served. I wanted 50/50, that’s it. I was t asking for anything more. The notion was ridiculous to her and we’re still fighting. Her argument - she needs her mom. She needs her dad as well. But I guess I have no value in my daughters life. The courts think the same usually but at least it’s becoming more normal

Blutarg · 2019-01-02T01:29:47+00:00

It sure is. Thank you for trying to help parents and children.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2019-01-02T02:46:50+00:00

Toxic femininity: viewing children as your property and the father as an unnecessary appendage (other than for cash).

Razorbladekandyfan · 2019-01-01T19:59:57+00:00

There really is an opposition to the notion that dads have value. It doesn't come from just feminists, it also comes from MAGA hat wearing moms in the deep south. But misandry is real. I've seen it.

This is traditional Gynocentrism and feminism. All anti-male and misandric.

hendrixski · 2019-01-01T13:08:22+00:00

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Mr-Croberts · 2019-01-01T13:29:26+00:00

This is progress

-manatease · 2019-01-01T15:52:57+00:00

You guys aren't easy to digest.

That's perfectly natural, I felt the same when I first started reading MRA discourse. I think one of the reasons is that what is said here goes against mainstream media white/brainwashing and - ironically - gender roles where for example we are just supposed to suck up all criticism without complaint and be chivalrously selfless in return.

Importantly, while feminists say that they support 50/50 shared custody, what the influential ones do to sabotage this is more important. For example weaponizing allegations - "always believe" - with the full backup of VAWG, Istanbul Convention, gender studies oppressor/victim model.

It's seriously conflicted.

ZekeTheOctopus · 2019-01-01T15:58:40+00:00

One of us. One of us. One of us

2019-01-01T22:17:33+00:00

Single mom's are cancer to western culture

2019-01-02T23:08:20+00:00

You are totally right about the right doing the same things btw. Women on the right are still mostly for anti male or traditional policies.

Hirudin · 2019-01-02T23:22:47+00:00

I was skeptical of this place. You guys aren't easy to digest.

Every time you see something you consider "shocking" here, look into it a bit. There's a pretty good chance that there's some context you're missing that explains it.

As a matter of fact, the main weapon of our opponents it to make sure you aren't informed of that context when you hear something about this place.

fire_sky__ · 2019-02-01T02:53:20+00:00

WAAAAAH a few people say something I don’t like and ALL of those people are satan

😂 jackass

thxnwy · 2019-01-01T15:27:52+00:00

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Title	I was skeptical of MRA but single moms shocked me.
Author	hendrixski
Upvotes	285
Comments	100
Date	January 1, 2019 4:56 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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