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Cry me a river

SkeletorTheSpook

October 1, 2018
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Title Cry me a river
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SkeletorTheSpook

Upvotes 268
Comments 60
Date October 1, 2018 8:15 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9kjwwy/cry_me_a_river/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/cry-me-a-river.1184710
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[–]20cansofSpam 71 points72 points73 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They'd be too busy working night shift in factories.

[–]Clemicus 97 points98 points99 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

So basically do anything if the irrational fear of men desolved. That'd be great.

[–]SkeletorTheSpook 59 points60 points61 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Gets robbed and assulted in female

[–]Clemicus 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

So what's your perspective with regards to the subject?

[–]SkeletorTheSpook 34 points35 points36 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Women here obviously treat men as if they’re the root of all evil. The mere notion of men being the reason that a woman can’t go outside is nonsense. Even if men make up 73% of the arrest rate, that still leaves women with an arrest rate of 27%. Making men have a curfew doesn’t magically make all crime disappear, as these women appear to be deluded to think. This reigns especially true considering that women are statistically more likely to be violent in relationships and in private, counteracting the stereotype of the violent ‘man’ .

[–]Clemicus 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's been caused by the dogpiling affect. Decades of being told men will do horrible things.

Yeah. Violence against the person for both sexes almost mirror each other. Then there's shoplifting and robbery.

The violent aspect would also cover psychological manipulation. Which can also include physical harm (relationships that start off with verbal abuse then go onto physical abuse).

I've seen way more women being abusive towards men in public. They had this toxic way of belittling their partner. I work in retail so have seen some bad stuff.

[+]Secksiignurd -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Also working retail: I've seen so many women just.... not parent their own offspring. A kid is running around, being an obnoxious shit, and the mother is rolling her eyes and scoffing, showing her frustration but doing absolutely nothing about putting that kid under wraps. Only once did I see good parenting, and much to my surprise that mom didn't resort to name-calling, yelling, or certain forms of light physical abuse, (yanking, grabbing), to get that kid in line. All others absconded her responsibilities.

[–]superhobo666 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't really consider grabbing your misbehaving child as physical abuse, you're literally just reigning them in and controlling their behavior. There should be repercussions for your behavior, much worse things can happen if you misbehave as an adult (get shot, beaten, stabbed, etc for being a shitbag)

Now if you grabbed them and then proceeded to beat them unconcious/dead then that would be physical abuse.

[–]Packmanjones 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a parent I think the most shocking thing to me has been the number of relatively well-off parents that seems to be following the Ricky Bobby school of parenting. Their kids are wild assholes and they are incredibly proud of it.

[–]FunctioningFully4 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

All this would do is keep the good men who follow the law inside.

It basically says "Stay inside this is women and criminal time"

[–]Eastuss 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In a weird sense, male curfew might be more beneficial to men than women, since men are the primary victim of violence/anything from both men and women.

But then, let's have an everyone curfew.

[+]antilopes -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Those 27% of female arrests mostly are not for violent attacks on strange women though, they are for dishonesty, traffic offenses, drugs etc.

Women's violence is mostly to their male partners and children. So the idea that women are at much less risk from women on the streets at night is mostly true. Getting their handbag snatched by a druggie woman is the biggest credible threat. Or a bar fight.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 32 points33 points34 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There would be almost no cops, EMTs, firefighters, etc. So enjoy that.

Also obligatory: imagine if this was about blacks/Mexicans/Muslims/etc.

[–]SkeletorTheSpook 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The number of work related deaths would shift from 92% for men to wayyy higher for women

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who would then scream oppression.

[–]many_mean_comments 55 points56 points57 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Open a door without fear? Jesus Christ, she makes it sound like we're worse than a grizzly bear

[–]The__Tren__Train 32 points33 points34 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TIL men not having a curfew is basically being in the Walking Dead

[–]Clemicus 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well there was that one video about bear attacks on college campuses.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We ARE worse than grizzly bears -- the bears just kill women, we rape AND kill them!

[–]Vox_Dobad -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We are, to her, because she's more likely to get a grizzly or a piece of shit Chad at her door than anything else....hmmm..wonder why? I think the carousel needs some grease.

[–]stormitwa 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oi mate you got a loisence for that incel talk. No talk of chads after the 9pm curfew.

[–]ccubed1999 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

With all the female first responder now on 2bd and 3rd shift, oh much safer you must feel during that drunk driver crash.

[–]emjaytheomachy 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not my problem, I won't be on the roads apparently.

[–]batfish55 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really hate all the 'women are in constant fear for their lives because of male violence' thing. I mean, guys need to be aware of violence too, you know. There's damn few of us who were the bully on the playground. There's always somebody bigger and meaner than us, too. The only difference is, if a female gets hit, people give a shit. If a guy gets his, it's 'well, what did you do to piss him off?'

[–]drock18 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Have to work all the over nights men usually do.

[–]The_Dank_Astero 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of a particular regime that existed from 1932 to 1945.

[–]puppehplicity 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If your life is really so limited by fear for your safety... you have a serious medical issue and you need to see a doctor.

I mean that. It's limiting your quality of life, and anxiety and persecutory delusions are both manageable with medication and counseling.

This is not to say "Oh, women are all just crazy" and dismiss them that way. This is a man who lives with mental illness, and who has male and female friends and family who live with mental illness saying "This person needs medical care if they are serious".

Or, if this is someone being inflammatory for the sake of being inflammatory (or earning social or political points, or trying to be funny)... then they are being obnoxious and deserve the criticism.

[–]PeonSupreme 25 points26 points27 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I get it. You hate me. I accept that. I am not going to try to make you change your mind about me anymore; but neither am I going to hate myself to help you maintain your psychic equilibrium anymore. I’m through helping you feel better about being so filled with hatred. That’s your problem from now on.

[–]SkeletorTheSpook 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This is literally about restricting men for women’s personal gain; you have it backwards.

[–]PeonSupreme 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That’s what I just said. They’re scoring points by painting us as the villains, and expecting us to go along with it. I don’t see what the problem is.

Edit: I should clarify that I wrote what I wrote as if I was speaking to the woman calling for a curfew for men. Sorry for the confusion.

[–]SkeletorTheSpook 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thought it was addressed at me 😂 makes a lot more sense now, yeah I get you bro.

[–]PeonSupreme 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My bad 🤗. I should stop waxing poetic so much LOL.

[–]FunctioningFully5 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Just meet less hairy poets.

[–]mikesteane 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is literally about restricting men for women’s personal gain

They have it backwards. If men had a curfew at 9p.m. all the law-abiding men including those who enforce the law and those who provide essential services would be unavailable. Psychopaths would be free to roam freely.

Without these men to protect them, women would be very much less safe than they are now. And, when the power goes down, the water gets cut off or they need an ambulance, the problem will most likely remain until the morning. When they might need an undertaker instead.

[+]antilopes -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It isn't "literal" though.

I have seen many threads like this and they are all the same. A woman rhetorically raises the idea of a curfew on men, to try to get men and women to be aware of the restrictions on women's lives due to feeling unsafe in public at night.

Women understand it as intended, they know the impracticality is off the point. They just enjoy imagining what it would feel like to not have to think about safety at night. Or they enjoy raging at the unfairness of not having that.

I imagine most men read it correctly too, and do the same.

But MRAs read these things differently. The original intent is resisted.

Many take it as an attack on all men.

Some criticise the feeling of not being safe that many women have on the streets at night, giving statistical reasons why women "should" feel differently. They might point out not all women feel unsafe.

Everybody treats the suggestion as literal and seems to find comfort in discussing the various impracticalities, as if enumerating thes these gives safety against the "proposal" being implemented.

What strikes me most about all of the MRA responses is that by different routes they all avoid the point of the exercise.
Joining the rest of the world in taking a few seconds to appreciate the obviously whimsical scenario does not appeal, maybe it is uncomfortable.

[–]The_Best_01 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why the hell would you bother "helping them feel better" anyway? Why bother to give a shit about their sexism? We don't help racists about hating people of other races, do we? Of course it's their problem.

[–]FunctioningFully8 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Right because if Men have a 9PM curfew the few percentage of men who are bad actors will totally obey it.

This works just as well as "Gun Free Zones" only those law abiding individuals will comply (the good men in this case) and the bad actors will ignore the rule and go right on ahead and do their thing.

Oh and know they'd be free to rape and pillage with far fewer witnesses, not to mention a much smaller risk of getting stopped by someone capable of fighting them.

[–]jimbolauski 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Minimal police and fire, no electricity or running water. Society needs men to function.

[–]Ninjetik 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So you wouldn't do at least one new thing??

[–]Mattreddit760 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m gonna take a guess that she’s single

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck every cunt that thinks this is acceptable i got punched in the face by my ex but i don't walk around thinking all women are violent sluts

[–]Cristi_Tanase 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah, guess what, you can do the same right now

they conflate "street safety" with "men are evil"

in Paris before the "migration" women strolled until late in night alone without any fear

in Eastern Europe there are girls on the streets during summer nights, in parks, all over... alone, together or with boys...

street safety is important, but to make it a gender issue is insane

[–]ilovenotohio 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jokes on her: bars/clubs would cease to exist without men to go.

[–]The_Best_01 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look at how many likes that shit got. I'm genuinely sad that there are this many sexists who don't even try to hide their sexism.

[–]Tgunner192 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you can't open your front door w/o fear, you need to move to a better neighborhood or get some medication.

[–]ButtsMacGillacuty 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I guess having a vagina keeps women from wielding guns.

[–]antilopes -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Having a vagina does indeed keep women from wielding guns. That appears to be the reason why the suicide sex ratio is higher in the US than in the other western countries.
The US sex ratio dropped after gun laws were tightened in the 90s.

Guns don't kill people, guns kill men.

If you are suggesting women could be safer if they buy and carry guns, that isn't how it works.

If you buy a gun, by far the most likely person you will kill with it is yourself.
Second most likely is your friends and family.
Shooting other drivers while you are road raging may seem very attractive at times, as is shooting people over disputes in a bar or in competition for parking spaces etc. Realistically people do a bit of that, but much less than the suicide or friends & family options.

Shooting criminal attackers in self defense really is not that common though. People with criminal intent are aware of guns, they take them into account I guess.

[–]Fartleyandpoots 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Henry Rollins wrote this very ontopic song decades ago https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A9zUYPrBXMI#dialog

[–]phoenix335 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A curfew for men? Are they serious?

And who's gonna enforce that, female police? Female Gestapo?

[–]SkeletorTheSpook 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ja

[–]MezzaCorux 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m statically more likely to be assaulted and murdered when I walk out the door and yet I don’t let that fear consume me.

[–]AyyyItsMrKeller 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"What would you do if you could violate a mans human rights?"

[–]Zirealeredin 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

With a curfew all the good men would abide by it and all the dangerous men would ignore it, and have knowledge that any man who might protect a woman wouldn’t be around...

[–]theGUNshowPOOPhole 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because we all know how much those serial rapists fear curfews.

[–]JewishAnomaly 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm still waiting to hear who is enforcing this curfew.

[–]themolestedsliver 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I love how feminist dont realize how much this type of sexist doesnt bog down the conversation.

Like there are actual women being oppressed in the middle east, yet they gotta get on a soap box about how all men are rapists and the like.

[–]SkeletorTheSpook 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I had an argument with a woman about this on twitter and she claimed that women here are far more oppressed than in the Middle East where, and I’m quoting “the law and religion requires the respectful treatment of women”.

[–]themolestedsliver 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep i had an argument with a nasty women who called women "the subjegated sex"...like really?

With people who refuse to believe facts what is the point of arguing?

[–]Hirudin 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"What would you do if all men had a 9pm curfew."

Find out that criminals don't follow the law, the hard way (especially when 90% of the police force is at home). That's what.

[–]Waluigi_lives_matter 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wouldn't that be illegal?

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