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Good-looking female students no longer get straight A's when classes become virtual

Voiceamerica

May 1, 2023
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Title Good-looking female students no longer get straight A's when classes become virtual
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Voiceamerica

Upvotes 3350
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Date May 1, 2023 11:08 AM UTC
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[–]NoREEEEEEtilBrooklyn 1057 points1058 points1059 points 3 years ago (51 children) | Copy Link

Well, this explains some of the incompetent supermodel looking people with Masters Degrees that I run into while working in higher ed.

[–]HugeRabbit 130 points131 points132 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I have an ex that got a Masters from a relatively prestigious institution. I’m not exaggerating when I say she was barely literate.

[–]Hidden_Sardaukar 60 points61 points62 points 3 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

I went to law school with my ex and while I had to write essays to get an answer right, she would write a single paragraph barely saying anything about the question asked and get it right.

[–]Wise_Stay_8848 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Just gotta say, your username is fantastic

[–]Hidden_Sardaukar 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I exist to serve his majesty Shaddam IV.

[–]slamdunktiger86 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Imperial hatchet man!

[–]Hidden_Sardaukar 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Emperor comands it! It is done!

[–]fuqq_master 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it was because of spelling errors? 😟

[–]Hidden_Sardaukar 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It wasn't on the US. Brazilian here.

Also, damn my clumsy ork fingers.

[–]fuqq_master 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m just giving you shit lol

[–]vinsomm 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Dated a girl that did the same. Masters Degree in education but failed the test that teachers gotta take like 5~ times so she never ended up being a teacher. She did get a dope as job as a civilian educator working with recruitment for the army though so it worked out for her. Have no idea why that job pays so well but she was clearing $130K/yr.

We literally broke up due to my frustration of her inability to understand what are seemingly normal every day things and situations. It was maddening. Gorgeous. Zero situational awareness.

[–]valspare 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You can only date dumb for so long.

No amount of pretty can overcome that.

[–]EternallyGhost 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry for the 10 day bump, but I think dumb girls are fine as long as they're humble about it. A stubborn dumb girl that always thinks she's right is an absolute disaster, but someone who respects your intelligence and values your guidance is actually a nice thing even if she's not the sharpest.

[–]valspare 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok, fair point.

[–]nostratic 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

literacy is associated with the patriarchy and white supremacy.

[–]HugeRabbit 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

looooool

[–]Drifter74 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Different situation, there was an old, historic university near me that lost its accreditation when they were discovered to be giving masters in English and Education to people who couldn't read.

[–]EmiliaClarkesBF 262 points263 points264 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

100%

[–]cropguru357 155 points156 points157 points 3 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Likely Masters in education. Not hard to get.

[–]NoREEEEEEtilBrooklyn 170 points171 points172 points 3 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Nah, the most common I see among the particularly moronic is MBA. As soon as I see MBA, I know I’m dealing with a moron.

Edit: Also, I have an MBA, and I work in higher ed, so I know I am exactly the kind of idiot I’m dealing with.

[–]_The_Burn_ 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Football player degree

[–]Kroneni 46 points47 points48 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All the moron Greek life kids go to business school.

[–]mkadvil 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel attacked.

[–]mikenormleon 78 points79 points80 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Gender studies.

[–]chakan2 75 points76 points77 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Nah...that's for the ugly ones.

[–]Ed-Zero 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hot gender studies

[–]chakan2 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's only fans... They are already masters.

[–]cropguru357 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn’t exist.

[–]peanutslayer94 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

IDK about you but a masters in Education is not easy, saw what Education programs entailed for some of my friends and they were arduous as fuck.

[–]Kroneni 41 points42 points43 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Arduous doesn’t equal intellectually challenging.

[–]TGrady902 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just like making it through the program doesn’t actually mean you’ll be good at the job or anything like that.

What do they call the person who finished med school with the worst grades?

Doctor.

[–]ohbenito 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

or you can go the Loyola Marymount University path.

you show up and say "in my country i was a doctor."

they say "wow thats neat. here is what it would have cost you to get there at our school."

you pay the amount and poof, you have a degree from LMU as a doctor. also worked for engineer and a couple other fields.

not sure if it still works but a friends father is a dr that couldnt find his nose or toes on a multiple choice picture test with a sweet LMU degree on his wall.

[–]Kroneni 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems like that would at least require having foreign citizenship.

[–]cropguru357 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There’s a reason why education majors have the lowest ACT/SAT scores when ranked.

[–]welcome_to_urf[🍰] 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or why over half of them fail their certification exams on their first try. Compare that to nursing students where the pass rate for exams is close to 90% despite having an objectively harder and more technical exam.

[–]cropguru357 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I say this with an MS in adult ed ranked higher than Harvard.

[–]DynamicHunter 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Those that can, do. Those that can’t, teach.

There is a factor of people who want to help students grow and teach certain subjects. But anyone halfway decent at those subjects knows that they would make double or triple (or more, if you’re talking about engineering/computer science) by just going into the industry

[–]machinerer 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The best teachers are retirees who excelled in their careers in industry, who still retain people person skills. Old curmudgeons don't make for good teachers, even if they are a veritable encyclopaedia of knowledge and skill.

[–]cropguru357 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure it is. Every teacher needs one, it’s the fucking easiest money grab ever.

[–]cucklord_swiper 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

C's get degrees

[–]Almeno23 49 points50 points51 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At my university even the non beautiful ones were getting high scores just because they were females… and I have to live hearing every single day that men have advantages over women…

[–]Dramatic_Mixture_868 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Number of people surprised by this = zero.

[–]NoREEEEEEtilBrooklyn 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I know, I was expecting people to be surprised by this. There is an extraordinarily large amount of very attractive men and women in higher ed with masters degrees (and doctorates in some cases) who are literally useless. I don’t get how some people fail upwards so easily. I mean at some point they have to actually do the work, right?

[–]Dramatic_Mixture_868 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ummm in many jobs, no actually. So many fake it till you make it people out there and I hate it. I happen to know some at my job right now. What I found really interesting is that fake it till you make it people like to be around other fake it till you make it people. Problem is when you actually have to get something done. However, I've noticed they hire people under them who have some knowledge and do w/e they say without question. This way those fake it till you make it people on top look good while giving a little credit to the people under them actually doing the work.

[–]LegoJack 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

My wife works at a university dealing with the professors...ugly people with Masters Degrees are dumb too.

Academics are almost universally the most conformist, pampered, dependent, and spineless people on earth. Actually independent thought is impossible for them. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

[–]royalsocialist 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mate there's recognising that having a degree does not automatically make you smart, and then there's... Whatever the fuck that gibberish you just wrote lol.

Touch grass.

[–]Prudent_Contribution 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every single PhD I've dealt with in professional life has been an idiot. One was so dumb I couldn't believe she even had a degree

[–]TrainerAppropriate19 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I agree, this makes a lot of sense.

[–]xAbzzx 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right? You realise how and then wonder

[–]EgberetSouse 149 points150 points151 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Control group, here I come!!

[–]FR-1991 497 points498 points499 points 3 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

They’ll just give the professors free access to their Only Fans account

[–]Electic_Supersony 583 points584 points585 points 3 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Nah, someone tried that on me. I reported her straight to the dean and my department head. The sad part is that I am pretty sure she was just joking, but I still had to report her to cover my ass because she offered me a free membership in front of other students. If I didn't, it could have put other students under the impression that I accepted her offer in exchange for special privileges. There were students who spread lies to retaliate against their professors for not passing them, so no one is taking any chance, especially during the final week.

[–]sadbutnotsad121 265 points266 points267 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

holy shit this sounds like a nightmarish psychotic teen drama ngl 😂

[–]Electic_Supersony 158 points159 points160 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You would think these people would grow up when they come to college...many of them don't.

[–]SiriusGD 131 points132 points133 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They're just High Schoolers with freedom.

I remember when I went to college the girls immediately thought the male college students would be 'well traveled men'. But they were just the same pimply teen age boys that they went to High School with.

[–]Kroneni 63 points64 points65 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Once upon a time universities would have been full of well travelled men but now we insist everyone go to college as soon as they reach adulthood.

[–]LegoJack 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

now we insist everyone go to college as soon as they reach adulthood.

Ironically, because we've done this (and also made college significantly easier so that most students who graduated high school can also successfully graduate college) we have pushed back adulthood and kept people in a playpen well into their mid 20s.

[–]Kroneni 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. And it totally cheapened the value of that education at the same time. A college degree used to be impressive, now it’s just another just another step in school.

[–]yooolmao 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I was a fucking immature idiot in college. The only thing that changed was that I had no parents to reel me in so I was probably much worse than in high school.

I look back on some of my FB posts from then and I'm like, "Jesus Christ."

[–]ProudBoomer 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank God I grew up and graduated before social media. There is no photographic evidence of my college years unless it's on film stored in a box in someone's basement.

[–]yooolmao 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol I was in school right when Facebook came out and it was limited to college kids. So I thought sure I'll just be my college self, no one can see it. And I was at a small school and new half the people there already so it just seemed natural to me at the time to post pics of us chugging beers and smoking blunts. Then they gave access out to everyone. My grandparents found out, told my parents and my parents said "the whole family thinks you're a druggie now".

We had no way of knowing back then but they really kind of screwed us. But yeah those memories still pop up on a weekly basis or someone from college will reply to an old post and I'm just like "oh god I was an idiot".

[–]lillweez99 25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some learn they can fuck their way out of any scenario or just by being pretty just to complain nobody takes her seriously.

[–]xxdunkelheit666xx 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i’m 25 and on of the first thing i noticed right after high school is that drama and gossip never stops. i believe it’s what gives people purpose or some shit idk

[–]TheJonnieP 84 points85 points86 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I teach virtually part-time and kept getting Only Fans invites to my school email. I contacted my tech dept because, not only do I not have an Only Fans acct, I figured it was getting past the protection blocks set up on school computers and I am not getting fired by clicking on a prohibited site.

Come to find out it was the sister of one of my students who wanted to give me free access to her account. I never spoke with my student, or her sister, about it but I figured it was an attempt at helping the student get a better grade in my class.

[–]Electic_Supersony 87 points88 points89 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a trap. They lure you in with a free membership and blackmail you later.

[–]TheJonnieP 46 points47 points48 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had no intention of checking it out. On my personal email I just delete that crap but on a school email I just reported it. That is how I found out who it was and what she wanted.

I have been teaching long enough that I keep a good distance, personal and professional, away from my students.

[–]LordBogus 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Why bribe someone with just pictures, there are photos of nkd women online everywere for free

[–]TheJonnieP 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I guess she though she was special or had something that I wanted. I do not know...

I do agree though, if I want to see naked women doing nasty things it is only a click away...

[–]LordBogus 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You used to be able to get fired after you had a wild night, but these days its just some lame pictures you get fired for🤣

[–]TheJonnieP 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

School policy in my local district is no kissing, or this type if stuff. My wife has a friend who was a teacher/coach and seen two girls kissing in the hall and told them they needed to stop it was against school policy. They reported him for telling them to stop because it made them uncomfortable and he lost his coaching position for enforcing school policy.

[–]LordBogus 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Up is down and down is up these days 😵‍💫

They felt uncomfortable, so the school turned an eye because they dont want a lawsuit... 2 girls kissing VS the evil school makes a great case! A gay couple getting discriminated makes it a garuanteed win! But your friend shouldnt have been punished either way.

But then why don't they scrap the rules if they don't wanna enforce them

[–]WolfShaman 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cause if they did that, a lot more people would be doing it. Too many rules are only enforced if it's safe to do so.

[–]LegoJack 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

, but I still had to report her to cover my ass because she offered me a free membership in front of other students.

Yeah...that's not something to mess with. Even if she WAS joking, all it will take is her passing and another student who heard her failing and you are going to have a much more uncomfortable conversation with your employer than you would if you jumped in front of the problem.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m an asshole so I’d probably say “Sweetheart, you’d have to pay me to even subscribe.”

And that’s why I can never work as a teacher or professor. Well that and the fact that I don’t have the schooling necessary

[–]HomoFlaccidus 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

because she offered me a free membership in front of other students

This is unacceptable! How dare you make such an offer openly?! lol

[–]johnnygluebag 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Keep in mind the majority of professors these days are female.

[–]matrixislife 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which doesn't change the situation at all.

[–]Jointhe41percentage 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well most women are lesbians anyway

[–]cxpe15 224 points225 points226 points 3 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

I'm not discrediting the hardworking women that deserve it, because there are some out there that can work laps around me and kick ass. But, I've noticed in the workplace it's not much different. Many managers I've had take a liking to the above average looking women and tend to give them raises more often.

[–]MardGeer 64 points65 points66 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

People always want the system to be perfect so we can all be treated equally then forget that people make up the system. It's unfair, and I have no idea how we're supposed to overcome this.

[+]cxpe15 -32 points-31 points-30 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

99% of the time it's not even their fault either. It's always the creepy manager that tries way too hard to impress or sway them to like them. Super weird.

Until we figure out how to tackle the lonely horny creep crisis the world is facing, I don't see things getting better at all. Hopefully AI evolves to be able to satiate some of these issues

[–]MardGeer 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't want to turn the world virtual, but it literally worked in school. What the heck are we supposed to do, go full burka and voice changer on everyone?

[+]cxpe15 -6 points-5 points-4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately anonymity actually makes people act worse than they already do. Humans by nature are motive driven, and sadly a lot of those motives can be tacked back to wanting sex, connection, or power. Usually all 3. It's a tricky problem

[–]LowAd3406 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm with you, this is an issue of men being simps for pretty women.

I work in IT and it honestly shocks me when I hear women talking about sexism. The only sexism I see is the benevolent type where women get the best training because all the dudes go out of their way to help them, or priority for promotions because companies want to virtue signal by putting women into higher up IT positions.

[–]turriferous 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Change culture back to when everyone got laid. Social media dating now has 2 guys getting 3000 woman. Used to be there was a proximity relationship problem. You could only meet so many dudes so there was a lot more settling. So today they all date the same 5 fuckboys, conclude men suck, and stop dating to do the career or discover they are gay. We need to get off the dating websites.

[–]LokisDawn 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't go too far back, though.

Studies have found that, in the time period about 4 to 6 thousand years ago, for every man successfully reproducing, there were 16 women.

Or in other words, at that time for every successfully reproducing man, there were 20 men not getting laid.

[–]turriferous 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I meant 10 years.

[–]midnitepainter 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I dont think you can put that genie back into the bottle. You’re essentially asking society to go back to shaming anyone who isnt heterosexually married with kids. Honestly, the potentially reachable goal i hope for is destigmatizing male sexlessness which is beginning to trend towards the majority. I mean the desireable men are the desireable men, i dont see what can be done about that.

[–]thatscucktastic 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

destigmatizing male sexlessness which is beginning to trend towards the majority

Yeah, no. Not when incel has been turned into a perjorative cudgel to be used with wanton abandon. That's not happening any time soon even if 60% of 20s something keen men aren't getting laid.

[–]qcon99 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk if we want ai to be able to satiate our desire. That’s a very powerful tool to wield

[–]ForkingtheGrodiest 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An AI for the people. Which will never exist

[–]rodeBaksteen 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Same, but probably less prominent, is the clear distinction in pay between bald men and men with hair.

Also height is a clear factor in pay.

So even tho it might be less obvious sometimes, looks 100% play a part in your career.

[–]SquisherX 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The "wage gap" that's talked about isn't a gap at all for young women iirc. Once women get older and less attractive though their wages don't keep up

[–]biccat 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"Wage gap" isn't a valid metric of anything. It measures "all working-age men" against "all working-age women." More women than men work part time or not at all.

When comparing two similar people in a profession - either hourly or salary - women come out even or ahead in most metrics.

[–]SquisherX 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I was referring to the same job wage gap. But women still do make less for the same role.

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/iese/2022/12/14/gender-pay-gap-persists-globally-even-for-same-jobs-within-companies/?sh=17ae8a9412ed

Even when you account for the same hours worked (as men do more overtime and typically take less time off), women still make less, albeit around 3-4% less iirc.

Do you have a source for your claim?

[–]skymonstef 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Can you quote where it shows accounting for hours worked as I didn't see it in the article

[–]SquisherX 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It doesn't. I've done research into this before though. Here's the first Google result when searching:

https://visme.co/blog/wage-gap/

I'm sure you can find plenty more.

[–]skymonstef 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://towardsdatascience.com/is-the-difference-in-work-hours-the-real-reason-for-the-gender-wage-gap-interactive-infographic-6051dff3a041

Thoughts ?

Cause both reports state that time spent away from work influences pay

[–]alexanderthebait 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s unclear though if that’s due to ageism or the fact that older women started their career during a time when workforce was very sexist are still suffering from that. The only way we’ll know for sure is when the current generation has aged up.

[–]Hulk_Smash_Hard 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably not even close to your industry but I’m a bartender/sever and the pretty ladies I work with smoke in tips every night lol

[–]ENESM1 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Reminds me of the reason why House hired Cameron: https://youtu.be/tyfPezVR-pU

[–]PedroAlvarez 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the comparison of "genetic gift of intelligence" vs. "Genetic gift of beauty"

We really treat those things different for how they're acquired in exactly the same way.

[–]Occma 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is the same for good looking men too. Good looking is like a cheat.

[+]jadedlonewolf89 -33 points-32 points-31 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lmao my younger sister is way smarter than me.

[–]MardGeer 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's cool buddy, next time you should read the post and stay on topic.

[–]xAbzzx 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shame how it works

[–]hellraisinhardass 85 points86 points87 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

However, attractive male students continued to enjoy a beauty advantage.

Male students who are physically attractive tend to be more persistent and have a greater influence on their peers.

Attractive people also tend to have more social skills, which have been linked to creativity. Since non-quantitative courses tend to involve creative assignments and group work, men who are more attractive might be more likely to excel in this coursework.

I think they missed a critical piece for the male attractiveness: Male physical attractiveness standards are is tied closely to musculature- IE if you work out, and have a slim face/muscular neck you are more attractive. There's going to be a lot of overlap between 'driven, goal oriented male students' and 'driven self improvement oriented male students'.

These are going to be the kids that feel 'the world is their's for the taking' if they put in the effort.

[–]royalsocialist 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Lmao dude guys have have attractive faces without being jacked. Also, gym bros don't correlate with brains.

[–]OceanTe 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He didn't say gym bros, he's just taking about people who are fit. Getting fit takes dedication and hard work, something that can he applied to academics. What are you disagreeing with?

[–]royalsocialist 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This study was specifically about faces. The impact of muscles on the attractiveness of your face is minimal. And yeah sure, getting fit takes dedication and may say something about your work ethic, I don't disagree, though I doubt it's a very strong correlation - I mean have you seen your average college professor? Are they the epitome of fitness?

[+]ohhellnooooooooo -29 points-28 points-27 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’d argue female attractiveness is the same, very based on being fit. Shit in a country with 90% fat people it’s the overwhelmingly most distinguishing factor

[–]3meopceisamazing 33 points34 points35 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not being fat and being above average fit are a big difference.

Men have to put in a significant amount of effort in any case to achieve a great physique. For women who don't have shit genetics (and the bar is not super high) it does suffice to maintain a good body fat percentage to look attractive.

Sure, working out adds something to it, but a woman who does nothing other than not messing up her body fat is going to look much better than a man who does the same, on average.

[+]ohhellnooooooooo -21 points-20 points-19 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Above average fit is still fat. 74% overweight population

No comment on the other topic, if it’s harder for men or women, don’t care.

[–]Trollet87 106 points107 points108 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ooh no now they need to do all the hard work

[–]my_name_is_gato 74 points75 points76 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I love how the author spun this around to still make women the victims somehow. The mental gymnastics sometimes...

[–]WornBlueCarpet 53 points54 points55 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Of course. It's always like this:

Women have to deal - to a mild degree - with something men have dealt with for decades and to a much higher degree

Women most affected

The classic example is when it came up that for every 4 homeless people, 3 are men and 1 is a woman - but women must affected, so we must build shelters!

[+]mindrover -32 points-31 points-30 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

One big issue for homeless women is that it is extremely likely for them to be sexually assaulted.

So in a way it's true to say that while more men are affected, an individual homeless woman is in a more dire situation than an individual homeless man.

[–]LokisDawn 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are also much more likely to "only" sleep rough, e.g. crash at a friend's place, or some such.

We also suck at perceiving men's problems.

[–]royalsocialist -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's really straightforward... Discrimination on the basis of looks. It hurts everyone, the same way patriarchal attitudes hurt men while also making them privileged. You're the one making mental gymnastics here.

[–]my_name_is_gato 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, I'm really not sure what basis you have asserted. Men are hurt and privileged by a system designed to favor men? Ok, even if I concede that point, how does that make this author's point any more defensible?

[–]medscj 139 points140 points141 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

That probably also explains why men are getting lower grades.
And they think that being attractive has no advantages ...

[–]MisterBowTies 68 points69 points70 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't think that, they say that. There is a difference.

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points53 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I was a 3.5GPA in person, and now I'm a 4.0....

Am I?....

fuck :(

[–]CremeDeLaNut 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yep, sorry to say you are going to have to work that hard for the rest of your life like the rest of us. Take a seat, snacks are on the table.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I meant, i get higher marks virtually than I did in person. According to this news article, that makes me unattractive to the point where people reward me for not having to see my face.

[–]LordGraygem 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You obviously have what they used to call "a face for radio" in entertainment :D.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If only my voice didn’t sound like someone mimicking whiny Luke Skywalker through a kazoo

[–]ProudBoomer 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can hear that voice from that very vivid description.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably not much to do with your appearance, there was a lot of grade inflation moving online.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m taking stuff that I’ve done at my job already for 10 years. Just getting the credentials to get letters now. I could teach some of these classes. Most of y mark inflation is b/c I engage and lead conversations in the classes.

[–]East_Onion 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine my shock

[–]EmperorOfCanada 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

A bajillion years ago I had a shit english teacher. He had his pets, and he had those he hated. I was in the hated crew.

Even the pets found this sickening as they just got A+ all the time. He would even put in comments, "This isn't your best work, but I know you could have done better; enjoy the weekend!"

So, 5 of the pets and 5 of us deplorables swapped papers for a month.

We got our usual Ds and the pets got their As. Then we went to the principal and told him what we did. The result was the marks were all changed. We all got Ds.

I would love to see the educational system go to entirely blind marking. I suspect the teacher would be enraged by such a situation.

Blind marking and the mark entered is the final mark. Make fixing a mark (as people do make mistakes in marking) be a peer review process where a single student can't have many marks changed without it going to a school board level review.

Throughout highschool it was the cool kids getting the As and in University it was the jocks they allowed to slide through. This last would be harder, as when I was in Uni they had special classes for the football team to "accommodate" their schedules. Yet, they wouldn't let anyone else in these same courses. I had more than one professor complain that the courses went beyond bird courses, basically everyone gets an A- was the rule.

[–]sigharewedoneyet 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A lot of people shouldn't be in education or in any political seat.

[–]ThingYea 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a slight tangent, but I had a graphics teacher that never gave any assignments. Not once did a single person hand anything in. Somehow we all got marked though, and differently. We asked him how he came up with these marks, and he said it was based on how we performed in class... He never looked at our work to see how we performed.

He wasn't very bright at all, and was asked to leave before the end of the year.

[–]badDuckThrowPillow 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I remember this hottie in a CS class (yeah…). Was sitting next to her in a lab. TA docks me some points cause it fails some test cases. Thought but if that’s how it is, then whatever. She demos hers next. Gets less than half right. Fucker opens her code up and starts helping her correct her errors. What the fuck.

Was so pissed I wrote an email to the Dean. Dunno if anything happened to him but it felt good to call him out to someone who (presumably) could do something about it.

[–]CrispBit 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No email I've sent to any Dean has ever been replied to

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Female students ☕

[–]Erisymum 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Actual paper found here https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016517652200283X instead of this website with like 10 articles and not the decency to link the paper themselves

[–]Previous_Wish3013 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just us ugly ones huh?

[–]Mustang1011 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The nerds doing their HW probably realized you should only take BJs in person.

[–]tistalone 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a bit depressing that higher education is able to be swayed this way

[–]22IsThisIt22 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know a woman who fucked her way into a career as a university professor. She was pretty smart, but so where some of her male colleagues who never became professors because they couldn't offer a vagina.

[–]AzraelGFG 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats odd, how can that be? Thats so odd?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome to life, where good looking people have it easier in any way.

[–]BootlegEngineer 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahahaha

[–]Naru4odo 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder why that is .....

[–]MassivePE 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How’d you like to be that ugly motherfucker in the in-person cohort? Susie, ya got an F again ya homely hag.

[–]Llee00 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hardcore mode activated

[–]thatscucktastic 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why I set my video game difficulty to hardcore because there's no escape. May as well get used to it.

[–]iRAfflicted 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can see now the rain is gone. I have seen this occur so many times.

[–]biglesk 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this really a surprise?

[–]Grandmafelloutofbed 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Recently went back to school for Software and I noticed this. I had a few group mates who were pretty girls.

DID FUCK ALL and still expected to pass. They would show up to the grouo calls and just say they didnt do their work cause they had a party TEE HEEE.

Then when we put them down as 0% contribution they were SCHOOOOOCKED. As if they couldnt believe they had to do more then just show up.

Keep in mind practically every woman I met during my time in class when asked about why they chose coding

"to break down the barriers for women in stem"......while they do literal fuck all and then complain its cause its a boys club

[–]Slam_Dunk_Kitten 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Says a lot more about the teachers than it does the students

[–]landa874 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey, just saying that this study was posted in r/science a few months ago, and is severly faulty in many areas.

The ethics displayed and methods used were not approved, overlooked by peers or in any way validated by other researchers at the university. If you really want to get the factual information, I'd recommend just reading the science article itself.

Just know that it is subject to a lot of criticism, and rightfully so. I think the guy that made it even got sued for malpractice. Wouldn't recommend using it as a source

[–]MeowMeowMeowBitch 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The ethics displayed and methods used were not approved

That doesn't make the results factually incorrect. Morally incorrect maybe.

[–]joosiann 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My grades went way up after virtual classes started......

[–]nuffinthegreat 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rip.

(Jk, I’m sure the format just worked well for you)

[–]Rxjim -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

These finding read to me as - women lose their beauty premium when in an online setting because the male professor understands that he has no chance of being able to have sex with her. Where as in-person he maintains that shred of hope that one day she wants to stay after class. No incentive to do her favours. A very conscious bias.

In contrast to men, who get the benefit just for being good looking due to the grader’s unconscious bias to beauty. A base level bias humans are susceptible to, without the overt sexual based bias.

This is pussypassdenied sooo could be the wrong sub for this kind of logic. I’m not a feminist at all, but as a man intuitively know what’s going on here.

[–]mindrover 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder if these results are also true if the teacher is a woman though.

I'm not sure, but I think I've read that people are biased in favor of attractive people even when they are the same gender.

[–]Rxjim 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ya I was thinking that as I was writing it. I couldn’t articulate my thoughts without getting into porns influence, gender roles, and other things to justify my position so I just left it out lol

But I feel it’s different for women, cause they don’t typically take a pursuer role in dating.

[–]royalsocialist 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure it's just subconscious, not that the teachers are looking to fuck them. Good looking people will tend to be more charismatic, more confident, will participate more, will be better at speaking and arguing, etc. Less good looking people will tend toward the opposite.

[–]Rxjim 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The study showed that women lose bias in an online setting, where men don’t. I agree with you tho, there is a base level of subconscious bias, then there is an overt level of bias that I think I understand.

[–]knitrex -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been thinking about this a lot recently, in the reverse. As a not-very-attractive female, the only time I experienced career success was when I worked in a small satellite office, then remote. It's really sad.

[–]oannes -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was today years old when I learned that I to, am a good-looking female student

[–]Jointhe41percentage 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you're just stupid

[+]miranto -12 points-11 points-10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Home setting is not ideal for learning certain things.

[+]this_kickass_kid -91 points-90 points-89 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Correlation does not mean causation

[–]East_Onion 39 points40 points41 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Must be Zoom sexism

[–]Rotty2707 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You are right, correlation does not equal causation.

With that being said, it's pretty easy to extrapolate from data and find a link between obvious cause and effect. Attractive women get lower grades when teachers can't see their faces anymore seems pretty cut and dry. Or do you have another theory?

Quitting smoking and lower levels of lung cancer cases aren't relevant to each other because correlation does not mean causation.

[–]jille-man 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yea the whole sentence correlation is no causation is only to discredit arguments, they have no idea what causation would be otherwise anyways

[–]MeowMeowMeowBitch 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well it's possible there is some third factor which is causes both of the first two factors.

For example there is a correlation between wearing earrings and being bad at math.

[–]dankeBasedGod 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

got another theory then?

[–]aalzarouni 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m no expert in data science but it makes alot of sense that virtual learning contributes to the cause.

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