Do Women Discriminate against Men in Education or Medical Fields? If so, how widespread is it?

Safinated · 2023-09-11T04:47:30+00:00

You’re being really vague about the details of this “discrimination” which hasn’t yet occurred

If it really just boils down to “she didn’t write me a rec” without any other information, I don’t see how you can claim you are being uniquely persecuted. And you haven’t even asked her

Of course women can and do discriminate against men, and vice versa. I don’t see how we can make any claims about breadth from your example of discrimination, which.....hasn’t even happened

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2023-09-11T05:18:10+00:00

So she hasn't ghosted you or rejected you, and you're trying to use this nonexistent situation as a case study?

As for the rest - I do think there are women who don't take men seriously, be it in an academic or medical setting. Same way there are men who don't take women seriously. There are women who don't take women seriously and men who don't take other men seriously. Unfortunately, shitty professionals aren't rare and they also aren't exclusively male or female.

That being said, I don't know if you've been discriminated at all, let alone if you've been discriminated against for being a man or for having health problems. Nobody here knows anything about you, your life, and what you've experienced.

januaryphilosopher · 2023-09-11T06:31:56+00:00

What kind of discrimination? Just being ghosted by academics sometimes like everyone else? Generally more time and effort is spent on boys and men in these fields and they still feel discriminated against. Welcome to not being taken seriously, I can't believe you think this is more of a problem for men in these contexts.

-Freud-Mayweather- · 2023-09-11T04:54:34+00:00

I’d wager the gender based discrimination would be there but pretty scant. Women have the same hierarchical view of gender that men have received from social conditioning, not a matriarchal mirror version of patriarchal society, Therefore they are likely to view men as more competent and reliable than women. But- this would include typical ideas about men like they are less empathetic or able to do caregiving jobs.

I work in a caregiving field surrounded by women though and just anecdotally I’ve never encountered anything like prejudice. Generally people who get into my line of work don’t do it to get rich and are on a mission so it’s an elite bunch when it comes to emotional engagement so maybe not typical.

However I can totally believe that you might experience some discrimination on average if you’re handicapped or suffer from mental health issues. Unless you’re in a wheelchair people have a lot of trouble believing that you might need help or accommodation.

All that said it’s really impossible to tell without more details. I’ve run into people online who were certain they don’t get callbacks because of affirmative action or that ‘women don’t like them because they’re shallow’ without ever looking at it objectively first.

Zestyclose_Truth9999 · 2023-09-11T06:59:09+00:00

Do Women Discriminate against Men in Education or Medical Fields?

Sure. There are also women who discriminate against certain women, men who discriminate against women, and men who discriminate against certain men.

As a personal anecdote, I've experienced my fair share of male/female c*nts in the workplace, so I believe workplace c*ntery and discrimination definitely aren't exclusive to one gender.

My personal belief is society does not care for broken men

Honestly, it's a bit naïve to think society cares about broken people. Society often doesn't care about the impact of wars being waged in foreign countries, children in foster care, or income inequality.

It's a fact of life that your issues won't be as important to other people as they are to you. That's why most people in similar situations need a caring circle of friends and a good therapist.

but I have a concern that she is going to ghost me

But... she hasn't ghosted you yet. You're victimising yourself before you've even had a chance to reach out to this woman.

AFuzzyMuffin · 2023-09-11T05:34:54+00:00

what’s your medical issue

WilliamWyattD · 2023-09-11T06:43:19+00:00

In-group preference and bias, prejudice, discrimination never go to zero. They are natural in all their forms. That said, I'm not sure of any persistent and widespread discrimination in these fields against men that really moves the needle on the macro level.

Makuta_Servaela · 2023-09-11T12:05:32+00:00

Given that most female-dominated professions have males as the primary higher-ups and leaders, I'd say no. I think the theory for it was the "Glass Elevator", where men tend to be upheld in female-dominated settings.

figuringLifeIsGood · 2023-09-11T23:43:24+00:00

yes. we discriminate against all men. AMALT AWALT

abaxeron · 2023-09-12T07:03:40+00:00

Women believe that if female full-time workers on average earn less than male full-time workers, it by itself is an evidence of systemic discrimination, and not those women's life choices. To the point that president of the United States said so.

Men on average are almost universally academically underperform under female teachers, and almost universally more likely to die from everything under female medical personnel (again, on average).

Men are under no obligation to treat it as anything but discrimination.

Yomzie_hun · 2023-09-11T09:44:50+00:00

No, you are discriminated because you are unlikeable. I remember your eww comment.

Firm_Shirt_2553 · 2023-09-11T05:13:20+00:00

Anecdotally, most asshole teachers I have encountered were female.

Fusiontron · 2023-09-11T05:18:47+00:00

Wasn't it already shown that female primary teachers mark the same assignment higher if a girl's name is at the top? Anyone got that paper?

El-Carretero · 2023-09-11T07:57:16+00:00

I work in the medical field. If I had to do it over again I would choose something else because females are shown way too much favoritism here.

I remember I paid someone that I volunteered with for a recommendation. Best $300 I ever spent, but still sad that I had to pay someone when I worked very hard and was very knowledgeable.

caption291 · 2023-09-11T09:53:20+00:00

Contrary to prevailing assumptions, men and women faculty members from all four fields preferred female applicants 2:1 over identically qualified males with matching lifestyles (single, married, divorced), with the exception of male economists, who showed no gender preference.

I'm assuming most people here know that study since it was fairly popular for a while...Is there a reason we don't hear about it anymore?

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Pathosgrim · 2023-09-11T04:49:18+00:00

If you had a low earning job/low position you'd be discriminated against in the realm of dating. Since your topic revolves around getting your foot in the door in the professional world, then no.

toasterchild · 2023-09-11T16:18:42+00:00

Professors can be extremely busy and getting them to respond regardless of gender can be very difficult. Most of my friends had to go through a lot to get them regardless of the teachers gender. Unless you have evidence that they are responding to women this is unlikely to be discrimination. Getting recs is a bitch, have fun jumping through lots of hoops and likely doing some in person stalking.

MidoriEgg · 2023-09-11T18:05:28+00:00

You didn’t really give much details so I’m not sure if I can comment on your own experience of discrimination. The example you gave was kind of vague.

I don’t know what medical problems you have specifically, but that could potentially have lead to discrimination. Especially if it falls into the realms of disability, neurodiversity or chronic illness. People across both genders can face discrimination for that, although it may present itself slightly differently.

Interestingly, I’ve always heard mothers say that if you’re really worried about your child being sick always get the Dad to take them to the doctors because they’ll be taken more seriously, since women are seen as hysterical.

Title	Do Women Discriminate against Men in Education or Medical Fields? If so, how widespread is it?
Author	Mr_Vaynewoode
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Comments	53
Date	September 11, 2023 4:38 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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