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Woman hits man several times and smacks him on the head with a laptop on a plane and no charges were filed against her

r_c2999

December 27, 2023
432 upvotes
/r/MensRights

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Title Woman hits man several times and smacks him on the head with a laptop on a plane and no charges were filed against her
Author

r_c2999

Upvotes 432
Comments 63
Date December 27, 2023 5:44 AM UTC
(2 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/18rt6sh/woman_hits_man_several_times_and_smacks_him_on/
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Comments

[–]EfficientSimplicity 77 points78 points79 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He probably did something to deserve it

/sarcasm

[–]Mysterious-Leg5997 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yup, that's how society views men in general......

[–]like_a_record 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think the thought process is in this exact moment, the man (most likely) is not in immediate danger. He has the ability to defend himself at least until the authorities arrive - in this case, surrounded by flight attendants, with the police waiting when they land.

When people rush to intervene, they do so (in their minds) because the person is NOT able to defend themselves. If a young ghetto woman was beating up on an old man, people would step in, etc.

[–]rm-rd 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as a bystander is happy to watch the man throw an adrenaline fueled punch back (probably without any real idea of whether or not it will do any real damage - most people don't have much experience) then that's their choice. You don't just intervene to stop a fight, you intervene to stop it escalating.

[–]denisc9918 87 points88 points89 points 2 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

  • You don't have no wandering eye when I've put on all this extra weight for you to look at!!

They must have kids right?? Surely no man would willingly put up with this shit?

[–]imstuckinacar 66 points67 points68 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Kids would have to be the reason he hasn’t left her. With the rigged system against men he will never see those kids if ever if he leaves

[–]r_c2999[S] 38 points39 points40 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It sucks bc you’re right but what makes this even worse is I’m sure she is abusive to the kids as well

[–]brainhack3r 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Better to set a good example for your kids to show that this type of behavior is unacceptable. Divorce her and move on.

[–]denisc9918 12 points13 points14 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She'd almost certainly be abusive to the kids as well so you'd have to take the kids otherwise... The guilt a father would feel leaving his kids with this thing...

[–]brainhack3r 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think a lot of fathers have to struggle with this... maybe that's why he's staying.

[–]Fancy_Point_595 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You'd be surprised. I put up with a lot of shit for 25 years... Fortunately, I am a free man now.

[–]KPplumbingBob 43 points44 points45 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So many comments on there asking "how did she get away with this???!". How does anyone reach adulthood without knowing why it happens?

[–]gabriel-kornilov 69 points70 points71 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Deck her as a man, even in self-defense, and you can bet your entire year paycheck charges WILL be file against YOU. Walk away, gents. It's not worth it.

[–]imstuckinacar 41 points42 points43 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And all the white knights jumping in to defend her if he did defend himself

[–]plumberack 29 points30 points31 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Flight crew was waiting to see him react. They showed too much restraint to not use force to remove her.

[–]MDFMK 51 points52 points53 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I want it give a small price of advice for a situation like this as hard as it is in the moment, I had something very similar happen to me about a decade ago.
This is the only way to 100% deal with such a situation if you can think and keep a level head. Act stunned roll you eyes up and go limp. Let yourself hit the ground yes it will hurt, yea it feels bad to exaggerate the situation but remember this person is escalating to physical violence with what where they had access too. Next time could be a kitchen knife or weapon and the narrative I had to protect myself from violence / domestic abuse comes out. But if your in a very public place and their is eye witness and camera hit the ground, act stunned stumble back down when some one helps you up. Act confused end question where you are. You will be medical checked out an ambulance will be called and everything is very documented. Now she is the one dealing with a charge or jail time no matter how little it May be and you know you won’t die to knife in the back one day.

Use the narrative, be stunned be confused in the moment be hurt and show the danger she is. She may get a slap on a wrist she may be detained but regardless now the law is actually on your side. Don’t claim amnesia or some long term thing unless it real after the fact state the facts. They was a violent outburst you were stuck and incapable to respond and ended up incapacitated due to the sudden lees of it after all who expect your partner to hurt you.

It worked for me and saved my life and most of my assets but not all and painted a very specific picture of the partner which required her to leave and abandon her social groups over due to shamming. To a women social rejection and isolation is far worse than any physical or financial recourse 99.9% of the time.

Also makes it almost 100% you will win a restraining order and she will be forced to leave if you cohabitate.

[–]Empty_Pomegranate362 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This advice is priceless and something I will share with all the young boys and men in my area. Thankyou

[–]MDFMK 14 points15 points16 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One last thing I did not have children but a partner who will do something like this will definitely strike a child. So for their sake act and even though you might be hated for breaking up the family or whatever narrative she try’s to spin you insuring some safety for your offspring as well.

[–]denisc9918 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Best Advice EVER!

[–]Trev6ft5 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alot of men seem to take the higher ground and keep toxic abuse private, that's often the worst thing to do.

[–]Mac_McAvery 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve been hit by a couple of girlfriends and my Ex-wife. One girlfriend I told her I would press charges if she ever touched me like that again, I never heard from her again.

[–]Eterna_Caelestia 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No woman is worth the risk. Sure there are good ones somewhere. But why take that risk?

[–]WinningAndSpinnning 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I felt like the odds weren’t that bad and I’ve been happily married for a decade now. Not sure what the odds actually are, maybe I got lucky.

[–]Large-Musician4181 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good for you.

[–]strangermvision 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He should have thrown some punches back because she deserves that

Also we shouldn't show respect to those who don't deserve it (especially someone hitting your head)

[–]r_c2999[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed

[–]michaelpaoli 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Context matters. At least according to what the video says, "once off the plane, the couple is met by airport security, but reportedly, refused to cooperate", so, that may not have even been the police, police / law enforcement may have never been called, most or all the witnesses were on the plane, the airport security personnel at the airport may have never witnessed what happened, and we don't know how much information airport security was/wasn't provided with when she/they were kicked off the plane (husband was reboarded, reportedly). They may have been provided as little info. as "woman being unruly on plane we're kicking her off" - and they may not have gotten more info. And, reportedly/apparently (hubby also) "refused to cooperate" - and if he's doing that, he's probably also not calling the police or pressing charges.

Not an ideal situation, but if abuse victim is unwilling to report it or press charges, and law enforcement didn't witness it, and possibly nobody else even reported it to law enforcement at all, well, how are you expecting charges to get filed? By who? Airline is probably just happy to get 'em (notably her, he didn't seem to be causing any problems, at least that can be seen from the video) off the plane, probably permanently ban her from that airline, and beyond that, really not their concern. And if hubby didn't report it, and maybe no witnesses on the plane did (shoving a video onto YouTube ain't the same as calling the police or filing a police report), well, not like somehow magically the police will know, and know who, and make an arrest or press charges.

And most passengers, etc., sure, witnesses, but they're generally goin' where they're going, and don't want additional hassles/delays, so probably unless someone(s) are calling for them to be witnesses, that's likely the end of it.

So ... quite different situation than if she were beating him up in front of the cops. Also quite different situation if he'd been significantly injured (he seemed to be physically okay ... and seems like he's used to putting up with this sh*t from her, ... though R.I.P laptop - but if the laptop is hers, who cares about her laptop). Also very different situation if he called the cops or made a report to the police, or if he even cooperated with airport security personnel and told the that she assaulted him and he wants the police.

So, context ... can't expect miracles out of police / law enforcement. If they're not even aware of what happened - they may not have been contacted at all - they're not exactly mind readers.

[–]Trev6ft5 14 points15 points16 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You have to ask yourself would the authorities pursued an arrest even without co-operation if the genders were switched?

[–]michaelpaoli 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if there were an arrest, would the D.A. press it, or drop the case?

And that also quite depends on what the D.A. thinks jury would do with it ... which of course depends on the evidence ... but alas, not that and that alone.

[–]Clemicus 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve found a few articles. It seems the assaulter vanished from the airport, the police couldn’t find her, and two people who were assaulted — including the husband — wouldn’t cooperative with the police

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2019/07/24/wife-hits-husband-laptop-during-argument-american-airlines-plane-miami/1821715001/

Edit: Also the laptop was reportedly his

[–]Rex9 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Airport security ARE police. Every major airport is a city unto itself. And they do not F around.

[–]michaelpaoli 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Many airports, most of airport security personnel aren't police, but rather security guards and the like - essentially rent-a-cops, but not actually cops. Of course they can call the police if need be, and there will be some actual police officers at airport too, but that's not who's typically there first, and actual police may never even be involved.

Of course this also varies by airport and country too - some will be crawling with actual police. Others, definitely not so much.

[–]mgez 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Usually it's because the victim decided not to press charges.

[–]plumberack 28 points29 points30 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Police do not need a criminal complaint to press charges.

[–]r_c2999[S] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He said what I wanted to say but better

[–]r_c2999[S] 23 points24 points25 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If there’s violence it’s usually out of the persons hands and up to the judge. The person can voice their opinion but it’s over.

[–]Angio343 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Murder victims either. That's not how criminal charges work.

[–]mgez -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Murder is a capital crime. Domestic violence is not. In an assault case most of the time the victim has to press charges. In some jurisdictions the police can press charges on behalf of the victim but that is not the norm. In murder case the victim can't speak for themselves so the state reserve the right to do that for the victim. In most assault cases the victim can speak for themselves so the state leaves it up to the victim to press charges.

[–]TechFreedom808 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is why when I'm in public spaces I carry a body cam. I keep it recording at all times. Never trust a modern woman.

[–]CoolKidTHC10 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wheres a good place to buy a cam? Ebay? Any bodycam brand name reccomendations

[–]AnteaterEven 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What would he do about it? The law certainly isn't on his side. As we've seen, video evidence just doesn't matter. If a woman is assaulting you physically, as a man you simple aren't allowed to defend yourself.

Also if they're cohabitating he probably can't afford to leave her, because as above, it doesn't matter what the reason a man leaves a woman for, he's paying a hefty financial price to do so.

[–]69thugger69 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sadly r/beatingwoman was banned, now you can watch only men being beaten up

[–]Large-Musician4181 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their logic is when men get beat, its all good.

[–]rabel111 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Strange how in a patriarchal society its a women who has the right to violently assault her male partner with impunity.

This women was removed from the flight to preserve the safety of other passengers. Clearly the safety of her partner was not the issue, as he was allowed to return to an abusive space with a violent partner.

The sexist pigs who allowed this happen without charging the violent female perpetrator, are empowering womens violence.

[–]FeelingEar9604 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Equal lefts

[–]r_c2999[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Equal rights

[–]KinkmasterKaine -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

While this is a pretty common double standard these days. Isn't upto the aggrieved party to decide if they press charges or not?

The guy could have just decided he didn't want to, or am I wrong?

I am surprised the airline didn't do anything though, she caused a huge fuckin scene.

[–]Unique-Twist-8911 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The guy makes the charge and nobody not the cops a judge or jury takes it seriously because "a woman can't abuse a man" and they'll just laugh it off

[–]KinkmasterKaine 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This isn't always the case, but it's all too common for sure. I'm just trying to get the facts if the cops CAN actually charge somebody without someone to press charges.

[–]Unique-Twist-8911 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They can but no cop is going to charge a woman for abusing a man

[–]KinkmasterKaine 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always thought they wouldn't be able to charge with anything if the people assaulted chose not to press charges.

[–]r_c2999[S] 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Cops don’t need a criminal complaint to make an arrest. If someone makes a call and the cop seeing it they have to make the arrest from that point on it’s up to the judge. You can voice your opinion that you want to drop the charges but it’s up to the judge.

[–]KinkmasterKaine -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I understand that she can be arrested without a complaint filed. And deserves to be. But I was specifically asking about the no charges being pressed. That seemed like the important part, not just arresting her.

They couldn't have charged her with anything if no-one decided to press charges, right?

[–]r_c2999[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No that’s not how the law works

[–]Clemicus 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Parties. She assaulted two people. One worked for the airline.

[–]KinkmasterKaine 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I mean. I saw, she's a huge cunt and deserves concequences.

[–]Ok-Yogurtcloset7394 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

she needs a new laptop?! hell yeah baby, thats what i call justice!!

No but in all honesty, that karen deserves to end up as an old catlady. actually nvm, animal abuse is also a thing.

[–]r_c2999[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They’d never make that laptop joke if it was a woman

[–]Ok-Yogurtcloset7394 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

oh yes. reddit would be burning for that.

[–]Scot-Fox 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This surprises you, there is a women here in the UK. Was a couple years back, in court for glassing a guy, permanent scarring. Also two assualt charges, AGAINST POLICE OFFICERS and an additional 14 assault charges all against men. Fine here, forced anger management counselling there. Suspended sentence, no elec tag, no prison sentence.

Her job as an estate agent had little to do with her getting off with it. Her being a 26 yo blonde gym bunny/ fuck bunny got her off, not to mention most judges are old men. Young men get maximum sentences for first offences, fuckable eye candy for the pervert old judgey get aww she's just an innocent girly, look at those genuine tears of remorse.

[–]r_c2999[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn sounds like she has bpd. Those be the craziest ones. Always caught in dmv, and sexually impulsive.

The Criminal Justice system is so fucked.

[–]Rujung 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait she hit the flight attendant um, was she even banned?

[–]r_c2999[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No clue

She should be tho

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