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[–]Brahms12 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
There's a thing with men called the chronic nice guy syndrome. It's a turn off to women Could there be something similar for women?
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I have no idea what this is! Care to explain?
[–]Brahms12 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a book called "no more Mr nice guy". There may be a companion book for women.
Also, this link may help: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nice%20Guy%20Syndrome
[–]Baadepapa22 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Where are you from?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
USA!
[–]Baadepapa22 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you were in australia , things might have turned upside down!
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
RBF
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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Oh God I haven't been on a date in 2 years!
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
When I actively pursued men, NOTHING worked in my favor. Repeatedly looked over, passed up on, dogged... I was told the right man will find me
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
The only "requirement " or "standard " I have is being physically attracted to them
[–]Recktion 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
But what % of men do you actually find attractive? Judging by my exes it's insanely low for women compared to men.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
There are actually many men I find attractive. They just don't feel the same about me
[–]Recktion 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
How many guys have you talked to and and clearly expressed interest in.
Without seeing a picture it is really hard to tell, even with just height and weight we can tell if you're probably, maybe, or definitely not attractive.
Maybe you just have a huge resting bitch face as well. Most decent guys don't have infinite confidence either, and if you look like you have a stick up your ass all the time they're not going to want to approach you.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Actually, TODAY! Went for someone below my "standards" to seek some sort of companionship and got REJECTED bc I'm "too much like his ex ad he can't handle it"
This was someone that I wouldn't consider, but Reddit told me to shoot for "lower rated men" bc my "aim was too high" and still got the same effect.
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's very true? I don't like to limit my opportunities by having senseless "requirements " of men. Never understood why women do this. I want someone who matches me
Same here!
[–]strengthenics 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Seems pretty hard to believe that no guy shows interest in you if you are attractive. Where do you spend your free time?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I say "attractive," because that's what people say but I mean something is wrong lol
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They suck
[–]jackzander 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Apps are a goldmine for literally any average looking woman.
This whole thing seems sus.
[–]consiliac 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. There's probably a dead canary in that there gold mine, she's deliberately omitting something huge.
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I am a woman of color. Doesn't work the same
[–]AyiHutha 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In what country?
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You sure you attractive?
Attractive women I know don’t struggle at all
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe I'm not as attractive as others tell me I am
[–]AyiHutha 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably but enhancing physical attractiveness naturally upto a certain extent is possible and the greatest female seducers weren't known for being that beautiful either. Even cleopatra was considered to be unimpressive but she used the skills of a Siren
[–]HowToStud 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
You’re probably not attractive or you’re talking to guys who have better options.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
You would think being in a doctorate program and computer programming with abs and a fat ass on the side would stimulate more men to me, guess it doesn't work that way
Edit: I have no reason why this is downvoted? I am in a doctorate program, I program on the side, I'm incredibly fit and thought this would suffice
[–]Ecstatic-Flounder-48 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Men don’t give a shit about your degrees or programming.
Hell sometimes it’s a negative if it makes you act entitled as to the type of men you should get.
Fat ass/abs is fine if you’re not a massive butterface.
And if you get attention, just not attention from the men you think you deserve, odds are, those are the men that you do deserve.
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Please be kind :)
[–]Ecstatic-Flounder-48 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You didn’t have enough time to even process my comment if that’s how fast you responded
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just saying in general. It's a sensitive topic. Kindness is always appreciated ♥️
[–]Difficult_Ad_8299 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Look, if that is true, there’s no chance you are not hit on by man. There is something you don’t tell us here. Maybe you smell bad, maybe your teeth are awful, maybe you’re never getting out of your house, idk but something is fishy
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My teeth are cosmetically enhanced, I shower 4x a day lol. Like idk. My nails are always done, I'm always shaved, my hair is always clean and kept nicely
[–]LucyLaceATX 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Send me a dm on here (or Insta) and I’m happy to help you troubleshoot. I’m not a dating coach myself but a good friend of mine is, so I can definitely assess and give you a few basic pointers, if you’d like :) Insta: @thegemmaiabell
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Since you're a woman, you don't need to over complicate things. Just take cute photos of yourself and make a Hinge profile. You will be drowning in male attention in hours.
[–]Billyjeanisntmylover 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Not trying to be offensive but are you really attractive tho ?
I don't think I am. The "attractive " comes from what people tell me
[–]HowToStud 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Fr we need a pic cause every girl thinks they’re Beyoncé.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I am an ogre
[–]HowToStud 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is my swap
[–]Billyjeanisntmylover 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can send a pic? So I can give you an honest rating? No creep shit tho - I have a girl so I'm not even on that wave.
[–]IamaThrowAwway 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hon, like yourself first and be acceptable to yourself. Look up the 80/20 rule, which basically says 80% of your self-worth should come from you. You should like who you are. You should like how you look. You should like yourself. Only 20% of your worth should come from external things like praise, compliments and attention.
In the first place, there's just lots of bulshitters and window-shoppers online: men and women. They think they can go through with it but they can't or they're lying about who they are and so they won't meet you since then it will be obvious they're lying. That's probably most of it.
Beyond that, there may be something about how you see yourself that's causing a kind of negative feedback loop in who is attracted to you. Someone likes you --- there's no doubt of that. Someone in your sphere dreams and fantasizes about you. Maybe you're overlooking that person?
Can you expound upon the last paragraph?
[–]IamaThrowAwway 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'll give you an example from my own life. My own mother was emotionally unavailable and inattentive. I could never "feel" like she loved me, so I think part of me always wanted that. To really "feel" she loved me, beyond her just saying the words.
So I found myself in a pattern of having feelings (or being "in love with") other women who were emotionally unavailable for whatever reason. Some just didn't feel the same, some just lacked empathy, etc and so forth. But ultimately, I was in the same pattern of trying to "feel" love from someone incapable of giving it. So it was a feedback loop... their inability to make me feel loved caused me to believe I couldn't be, which only made me seek out more women like that, which reaffirmed even more that I couldn't be loved. I was attracted to women who were going to reject me.
Do you see, now? I think, for all of us, we can get into these feedback loops where we're making choices in attractions which reaffirm what we think of ourselves, and then we just seek it out more in the next person and the next and the next.
But no matter who you are and what you look like, there is someone likes you and desires you. There's no such person alive who is unattractive to everyone. Someone finds you attractive. Maybe you're too busy looking past them to realize it. I don't know. But they're out there. They're in your life right now.
[–]naiseivad 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Post a picture and we can decide, or send one. I'll be honest
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Would rather not post bc it's a throwaway. But I can send
[–]HowToStud 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The more reason to
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have no ex.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
This must be a troll post. Any woman can get a man to be interested in her just by breathing and having a pulse.
Except me
[–]VeliVoy -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You must be ugly looking then, I mean real ugly.
What do you look like?
[–]DarkSun18 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I mean true but those often are the lowest of the low kinda guys. I often only get matches from men who are morbidly obese and unemployed or those who hope to get nudes and aren’t unto even a real date. Finding a decent guy isn’t automatically easy just cause you’re a woman.
Describe yourself? Are you attractive? Are you overweight? There’s something you’re not telling the reader because women are constantly pursued by men of all social and economic levels.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'll date you.
Problem solved.
YAYYYY!
Just a thought after reading your back and forths here.. Men are probably intimidated by you. A lot of the wisdom that is shared talks about 9's and 10's being the loneliest because men just won't approach.
If we don't work out, keep that in mind.
[–]r_m_castro -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're probably ugly. Show us pictures so we can judge.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol I'd rather not post because it's a throw away account, but I can send a recent picture
[–]r_m_castro 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Send it then.
[–]Mundane_Natural5131 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As long as your not 250 pounds there should be a high % of men that would date you maybe you are not showing interest in people so they get the vibe like you dont want to be approached or uninterested
Hi
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Because guys are dumb. Believe me, I am one. LOL
Seriously though would you like to chat about it?
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Women are always told that they’re attractive by their friends and get compliments from guys to get in their pants. It’s like this video https://youtu.be/EBWlHQsIDq4
So confirmed I'm a fugly POS.
Thanks
[–]Recktion 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, that doesn't mean your ugly. It's just saying don't put any value in what other girls tell you or desperate simps.
Wow i wish i could find a girl like you dying for a man to notice her where i am the girls get angry or rude if i approach them or even check them out so i often avoid it unless they send me obvious signs. Id suggest you start making eye contact with men and probably smile that should get men to approach you if you do it enough
[–]Suspicious_Loan8041 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We don’t know you personally so we can’t say.
[–]vanmoonshine 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Depends on how attractive you are, and whether people see you as highly innocent. If you never flirt yourself or give anyone the impression you like them then people arent going to have any reason to engage with you. Being too attractive could be offputting to people as well, especially if you're not an openly warm person. Would have to see a pic to tell.
[–]wastingtoomuchthyme 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
But without a pic we going to need proof.. or I will assume the "attractive" is in quotes like someone's Mom calling their son "handsome"
If you were really as attractive as people claim that either:
1 - you're really not that attractive.. and people are telling you you're attractive to get something off of you.. completely transactional relationship
2 - there's something really off putting about your personality that's overcomes your attractiveness.
That's really it it's either a or b..
The print media level women that I know don't have this problem.. in fact they tend to feel pretty lonely due to how other women treat them.. since she's a little quiet all the women assume she's stuck up in our nasty to her.. the guys fall all over themselves to try to be with her.. one friend had some 50-year-old guy offer to buy her a house "no strings"
It's probably both. Probably fugly as hell with s pervasive personality
[–]wastingtoomuchthyme 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh then good luck with that.. unattractive women are basically men - they have to work and actually pursue people they're interested in..
It's not fun and some of them find some of that loves them for them and they can have happy lives while others just climb into a bottle
[–]brock275 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m tipsy. Send pics and I’ll give you the honest feedback your friends won’t.
Deal
[–]Corndesu69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No way, have you tried online dating?
You know, the dating game is very different between men and women, and is all because of the bases that those things are built. Although is a direct question, we need more info to help you out, cuz... Well, as I've read in the comments, the main problem here is that you're a woman. I'm down to help you if someone isn't doing it already
[–]Granny_Killa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Are you really logical and boring or something?
Some women I can't have a flirty conversation with them because they are so logical and ask questions like a job interview. I am matched with a hot one now who is like this and I'm not sure I want to meet her as she probably wants to talk about stocks instead of sex when we're out late drinking.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'd think i'm the perfect A1 package . Brains, Body, can throat a dick like nothing, personality, "mother like" in nature, nurturing, excellent teacher, advocate (my personality is an advocate), I read, care about the 8-10 intelligences and re-assess ever so often, I LOVE chess, I like to take IQ tests...
I do consider myself cerebral, but that's who I am.
[–]Granny_Killa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know then! If you feel like sending a pic, I can give you my honest first impressions. Maybe you're beautiful enough to be intimidating but then that also wouldn't stop apparently every single guy.
[–]TheLegendofMikeHawk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you considered being more direct? As in actually approaching men you find attractive. Compliments from woman work really good as openers, talk for a bit, feel him out, and if you jive well, ask him out. As a man I love being approached by woman. I think you'll find initiative goes a long way. It sucks that you got cancelled on. . . But that's just a drop in the bucket. It happens to everyone, I don't take it personally. The more men you meet, the more likely you'll find a man you actually connect with.
[–]skaag 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No worries, go on a date with me and that will change your energy 180 degrees, and men will start chasing you.
[–]ricagraca 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Give eye contact with a guy you like. If he does not move, wink. Is that easy. At least for him to walk to you.
[–]Loki112612 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Missing piece
Some lovely people messaged me and I think i'm solving this issue ♥️
[–]pdx4nhl 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This has to be a troll post. There is no actual info to offer any sort of guidance. I'm calling BS.
Let me guess "Women shouldn't have a hard time dating."
Is this your argument?
I genuinely feel as if the men are completely dismissing my concerns, while the women are more empathetic. What gives? Women have dating struggles like men do. I have no reason why this appears to be "ironic"
[–]pdx4nhl 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women have plenty of dating challenges...your post gives no info to go on. How are people supposed to help you without providing lame generic advice? You can read Cosmo or some trash for that kind of advice.
[–]IamPattiCake 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dm me
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