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[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you don't have fun at clubs, then don't go. It's really that simple. I haven't been to a dance club in years, yet I have no problem meeting women. I go to bars, and yes I drink, but I don't feel awkward or bored because I like those types of environments.
[–][deleted] 37 points38 points39 points 15 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
having no fun => apply alcohol => having fun
no circle
[–]armoreddillo 6 points7 points8 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Furthermore,
The shape of the flowchart is obviously closer to a rectangle than a circle.
[–]Boonana 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link
=> begin to Lose "high" from alcohol => having less fun => apply alcohol => having fun => lose high => have less fun....
Rinse and repeat until you chunder or pass out. There's your circle.
[–]HyeR 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. Though Ive started to notice that with alcohol, and almost ALL substances, that your initial mood has a lot to do with how your going to feel after you take said drug. If im in a great mood im gonna be the most awesome happy talkative everyones best friend drunk, but if im feeling down to start than im probably gonna feel much more sulky and be in my head a lot.
So the key is to never, ever feel bad about anything lol.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 15 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
it takes 1-2 hours to lose "high" from alcohol. you can also keep your level by drinking a little while being drunk. it's not like you drink a bottle and then stop for 2 hours. lol. i don't see the circle.
[–]Boonana 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think it would vary from person to person, and how much alcohol you drink in a given period of time. Plus I think it's more gradual. From my own experience I have seen similiar things to this circle happen.
But mainly I relate to this post because I really should limit how much I drink when I go out. Having stronger willpower when I'm drunk will help :P
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yes that's true :P it's usually easier to talk to strange girls when drunk ;-) but (at least i) constantly meet people at the bar and drink :D
[–]ilurkokcupid 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Maybe I'm doing it wrong or everyone reacts differently. For me there's a very thin line for that "high". If I drink past it I feel nauseas, if I go below it I just want to take a nap. I usually don't have a great time when I drink.
[–]2_of_8 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Same here.
A progression of alcohol intake, from 0% (sober) to 100% (let's say, throwing up), I get sleepy until 25%, angry until 50%, fun until 60%, and then too disoriented/confused to have fun, until throwing up at 100%.
I never understood why people get angry so easily when they drink...
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
hmm that's unusual.. your body should only be able to get rid of about 0.01% alcohol in your blood per hour. maybe you should see the doctor ;-)
[–]NinjaVelociraptor 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I think you may be doing it wrong. It takes a lot of alcohol to get you to the point of feeling nausea. And you should be really wasted once you arrive to that point. What do you drink when you go out? Rum is great.
[–]ilurkokcupid 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Whisky.
[–]NinjaVelociraptor 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ok whiskey is a lot of alcohol. I wouldn't drink it while going out because I know it will end bad. Vodka with juice or rum with coke are good while you're in a club, they have a softer drunkness curve.
[–]ilurkokcupid 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can have fun at a bar without drinking any alcohol. I don't ever wish I enjoyed drinking more.
[–]NinjaVelociraptor 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I enjoy drinking, and enjoy getting a little drunk. Do not enjoy getting wasted. That's the problem with whisky, it's too strong, you can have 1 or 2 glasses and it's fine, but if you want to spend all the night with whisky in your hand you'll end up really wasted. Give rum a try.
[–]surferafc 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it happens to me too! luckily i learned how to have fun without a single drop of alch
[–]OrgyPorgy786 -5 points-4 points-3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Alcoholism is fueled by ignorance
[–]acartoontiger 10 points11 points12 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Having no fun--->apply alcohol---->hit on women---->get laid---> YAY!
[–]QoolNQalm 14 points15 points16 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I find it impossible to have fun in a dance club without alcohol.
[–]Meeruman 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ditto.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
stop going to shitty nightclubs -> go to clubs with EDM -> circle broken
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
EDM?
Take your pick!
[–]napalmx 3 points4 points5 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think another key to this is that as you drink more, you gain confidence which is good to a point - however, if you get to the point where you're slurring your speech, its going to drastically diminish your chance to attract women. You just need to find a balance and moderate yourself, I know that a little bit of liquid courage definitely helps me get in state.
[–]bushiz 3 points4 points5 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
dance yrself clean
[–]abstractelevator 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go and Dance yrselfffff clean yeeeeeaaaaa
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Save money. Pre game.
[–]absolutebeginners 7 points8 points9 points 15 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Why is seddit so anti-alcohol?
[–]bangthemermaid[S] 11 points12 points13 points 15 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
i'm not against alcohol. i'm against alcohol being the only way to have fun. I love how alcohol loosens me a little, but I still believe that the inhibitions we suffer from can be overcome without alcohol.
[–]absolutebeginners 7 points8 points9 points 15 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Oh I don't disagree, I just love to drink. Seddit seems to be decidedly anti-alcohol in general, not you specifically.
[–]bangthemermaid[S] 12 points13 points14 points 15 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
hehe, probably because drunk guys give getting hit on a bad rep.
[–]thankyousir 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Assholes give getting hit on a bad rep.
[–]bangthemermaid[S] 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
let's settle for: drunk assholes give getting hit on a bad rep. do you concur?
[–]thankyousir 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Indeed!
[–]MonkeySteriods 6 points7 points8 points 15 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Alcohol is a crutch, and it prevents you from keeping up with the girls. Also your job is made even more difficult if you are drinking, you're judged for "drinking too much" by the girl.
aka "hes drunk, hes just interested in having sex" -> "say no"
Also its a dhv to not be drinking, if you can have fun without drinking that sets up appart from all of the other drunks there.
I'm not saying that drinking is a bad thing, but it doesn't really help with your game.
[–]absolutebeginners 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not trying to argue with you, but im my experience, it hasn't really changed much unless I'm stupidly wasted. I just think everyone has a different reaction to alcohol, and it isn't fair to say that everyone will be negatively affected by it.
[–]frogma 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's generalizing a little bit. Like absolutebeginners, the only time I have any problems with it is when I'm stupidly drunk- and even then I can usually handle myself well enough to get some pussy. If I'm any less drunk than "stupidly drunk," it only helps. But different people respond differently to alcohol so YMMV.
[–]MonkeySteriods 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
From my experience: The whole denying a guy deal because hes visibly drunk is a learned behavior.... kinda like automatic shit tests, except you don't get a chance if you're drunk[er than her].
Don't get me wrong I'm not anti drink, drinking is fun. But imo, it puts a hamper on game, and it can put a damper on the ability to drive her to your place.
[–]frogma 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it can put a damper on the ability to drive her to your place.
Very true, if you have to drive in the first place ;-).
But otherwise, you're saying it puts a hamper on game, which isn't universally true. I know when a guy's visibly drunk that usually evokes an automatic response from the girl- unless that guy happens to be me, because I hardly ever have a problem with it. [Especially if I'm just buzzed, I can make Sober Me look like the king of chodes, and the Sober Me is pretty good with women.]
I'm just saying, for some guys it hurts, for other guys it helps- and for all guys, you can eventually reach a point where it'll definitely hurt.
Edit: And nobody should be using it as a crutch- unless you're a guy who has a really hard time with women, in which case I highly recommend getting a good buzz and seeing what happens.
[–]MadDogTannen 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it has to do with the origins of the seduction community in general. In the very early days, the pioneers of PU were very focused and treated this like serious research. Drinking at a club for them would have been like going to work drunk. You might have more fun, but the quality of your work suffers.
[–]liberal_elitist 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Replace alcohol with E. Done.
[–]tazmanian_saviour 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Anywhere flowchart
FTFY
[–]worr 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
nightclub -> dance -> fun
Alcohol optional.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why would I break it? It's fun! :D
I don't think I've ever had a bad time getting a little bit high and dancing (and I've had more depressingly uneventful drunk dancefloor experiences than I can remember). After a puff or two, I get silly and creative with my dance moves, I get horny... and women respond very positively to it. Paradoxically, I have so much fun dancing that I genuinely don't care who else is there... then find girls dancing closer/bumping into me.
[–]brainburger 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
'ponceholes'
I go to the club to dance, alcohol and women are secondary.
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[–]reddit4getit 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A few melvins downvoted you, but you hit the nail on the head.
[–]sneakatdatavibe-3 points 15 years ago* [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link
Totally unrelated to seduction:
If you need to drink at a nightclub to have fun, you're going to the wrong nightclubs. Seriously.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 15 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Or you're just not the kind of person that enjoys nightclubs.
[–]sneakatdatavibe-1 points 15 years ago* [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link
Most nightclubs are completely abysmal. Lots of people think they're just not nightclub people because their sample set is from the 95% of clubs that should be burned to the ground.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nightclubs are what you make of them. I don't know what aspect 95% of nightclubs lack that make you think they should be burned to the ground, but in my experience it's the people that make the club good or not. You can have a completely shit club, but if it's full of cool people you'll still have a great time.
[–]sneakatdatavibe 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah, shit clubs are shit clubs even if you're there with cool people. What's the point of having cool people in a place that's uncomfortable and annoying?
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[–]sneakatdatavibe1 points 15 years ago* [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
Good clubs aren't too crowded. Good clubs aren't too hot. Good clubs are loud, but have places where it's quiet enough to talk. Good clubs don't let fake people in. Good clubs know you and don't make you wait in line. Good clubs don't have "bottle service". Good clubs aren't overpriced. Good clubs don't play "miss" music.
Like I said, 95% of them should be burned to the ground. But good ones do exist.
[–]huyvanbin 4 points5 points6 points 15 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sounds like No True Scotsman
Just because 95-99 out of 100 clubs are abysmal places doesn't mean that the hard work and dedication of the people who run the rest should go unrecognized. It's a thankless, shitty industry, and people who deal with all of that to provide a comfy, enjoyable place for me to get my drink and relaxation on deserve all the thanks and recognition I can heap on 'em.
Examples of good ones?
I'm a fan of Berghain, but it's gone downhill in the last 12 months or so. It's still far better than most, though, so it's worth a visit or five. Lately I've been hanging out at a place called Kleine Reise, but it's always super-crowded (other than that, A+ fun). The techno nights (The Bunker) my friend does in the ass-end of Public Assembly (Brooklyn) are pretty fun, too. Bar 13 (Manhattan) can be either great or horrible depending on what's going on there (though I bet the "horrible" ones outnumber "great" by 3:1 or 5:1 in general). Historically I've liked The Darkroom (Manhattan) too, but I stopped in last month and it seems they've changed out the DJs since I frequented it a few years back.
[–]MonkeySteriods 0 points1 point2 points 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It also depends on the crowd there, and night.
Depends on the environment and city. Some clubs are basically glorified bars, with cover.
[–]OrgyPorgy786 -1 points0 points1 point 15 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah the only time I've ever conciously noticed this cycle was when I was underage and could only get in to one club. Also, I was much more socially inept.
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