[FR] TokyoSeddit Lords Over Shibuya & Seduces Model (Value of Social Proof and more - with pics!)

frogma · 2011-05-13T09:51:00+00:00

for clarification, the model girl in question is not japanese. she was american, so this style of game should be golden for hb9s in america.

my take on the night.

as soon as tofu and i saw that three set walk in, i knew i wanted to talk to the hb9. they walked in and immediately everyone was giving her tons of attention. i go over to the set, and open the guy about his watch. hes talking about it a bit, and i ask him to be my new father.. just trying to amog him but not be a dick. it worked fine, and got into a conversation with hb9s sister.. i light up a cigarette and hb9 says "my sister is pregnant, can you not try to blow smoke in her direction". from there i asked the mom about her family, etc, just kind of making fluff so that she will like me enough to allow me to talk to the hb9. building rapport. i was a complete gentleman to her. put out my cigarette and hb9 says again, "stop."

what i actually said was a bit different than whats on the FR, but about the same thing, "aww how cute, older sister is defending her younger sis, thats great" i wasnt even trying to neg her (i have a problem with 9s where i neg them way too hard), but as soon as it came out, i realized that was a perfect neg. she starts to qualify herself about her age.. and i get my first ioi-she asks how i old i am. i answer and then walk away.

at this point, they move tables and have attracted a little crowd of AFC orbiter type dudes. hb9 loves the attention but you can tell she doesnt respect any of them. she goes out for a smoke, and i go join her. we talk a bit, she tries to kino on me and i tell her to stop moving so fast. she loves it, but calls me an asshole with that huge smile. we play a little game where we pretend to be working for the bar, inviting customers inside.

eventually, it all gets worked out to where we are going to bounce to another venue. the two japanese dudes following her have no clue what they are going to be up against (me having incredible social proof and just in general leading the crowd.) but they decide to come anyways.

hb9 gathers her sisters and i make chat time with this girl from thailand while shes doing that. she comes out and sees this.. im doing great.

we get to the bar, and of course the little orbiter possie follows her straight to the seat, i go talk to a girl at the bar, and then say whats up my friends the dj and bartender. dj lets me get on and spin a bit, she comes up to talk, and asks to hear "house music like beyonce"

i tell her that isnt house music and she should get some real music taste.. (NOT RECOMMENDED UNLESS YOU ARE RUNNING ASSHOLE GAME ON A 9 or HIGHER.)

i talk to other girls the whole time, almost ignoring her but giving her little bits and pieces of my attention here and there. she loves it, and goes around the bar trying to play this game of getting my attention. if a girl is doing this, dont give in right away because from an hb9 its a massive shittest. i held my frame and didnt let her shenannagins bother me.

before she leaves, she gives me her number and asks me to call when she gets back to tokyo. maybe i will. im not interested in girls with such bad music taste.. lol. anyways, i am fully confident that had her sisters not been there, this would have ended in a full close. its hard to go out drinking all night with your married, pregnant sisters while youre on vacation in a foreign country. would have been a great one night stand though.

thesacred · 2011-05-13T08:52:43+00:00

Oh man, I was not happy when those two girls went home. If there was ever a perfect setup for taking a girl home, that was it. It's such a bummer when a girl has her friend watching. In almost all cases either you keep both out past the train or you lose them both. Mine was down and I really thought her friend was too. But no, after all that my girl's friend dragged her away. I get so annoyed when that happens. It's like snatching meat away from a dog.

Lots of amusing events come to mind from the night, though. I remember at one point that big American AFC guy kept trying to talk to my girl and finally he slips her his business card (it says, "student"). She takes it, smiles, tells him bye, then turns to me and puts the card in my shirt pocket. Haha.

At another point at the bar before that, that one really drunk Japanese businessman kept grabbing at my girl and being obnoxious, trying to make her self conscious for being with a white guy and going through all the usual drunk salaryman cockblocking routines. Finally he says to her "who is the sexiest guy here" and the girl points to me. The guy put his head down and slinked away. This is a girl I had just met about an hour ago. I love that, when you first get the clear sign that you're in.

Oh man I was annoyed when she got snatched away. Oh well. Another day, I guess.

Another great moment was at the beginning of the night before you guys showed up. Naga14 opened this big group of pharmacy school students, all female, and the girls we were there to meet walked in while we were standing there amongst this big group of cute girls who were laughing and loving us. A perfect start. I gave my number to the cutest of the group before we moved on, and it wouldn't surprise me if she contacts me again.

And of course, the 5 am drunken street nanpa was pretty amusing. I would have enjoyed it more if I hadn't gotten so drunk, though. I don't know why I keep doing that. I just like to have a drink on my hand, and I go through them faster than I realize. That plus the fact that I evidently can't hold my liquor worth shit. Kills me every time.

Good times, though. Looking forward to Saturday.

Whisper · 2011-05-13T16:38:05+00:00

Nice. Love the french fry opener. Almost (but not quite) enough to make me eat fast food.

The AMOGs are running awful game, culminating in them giving their business cards.

Business cards are apparently a Japanese cultural thing, but what a dumb move. Yeah, get her thinking about work, jobs, and money. That'll make her wet.

JakalDX · 2011-05-13T09:17:34+00:00

How'd the Apocalypse Opener go? The concept of using it on Japanese people is even more delightfully absurd.

Edit: Hold up, I thought the Apocalypse Opener is asking them to have sex with you. What is it then?

HeikkiKovalainen · 2011-05-13T12:43:40+00:00

Another fantastic post tofu.

How many more are there going to be in Japan?

LadyPUA · 2011-05-13T14:37:18+00:00

Man, that "Bro disqualifier" is pure gold! I can envision it working its magic on me and pretty much any other girl out there, all of us dislike being seen as unfeminine.

2011-05-13T09:26:37+00:00

We want more !! :D

RcskaSedd · 2011-05-13T16:42:15+00:00

TofuTofu y u no show face. grrr Another great post :D I really liked the Bro Disqualifier. I live in LA with majority of hispanics so i might use "You're so awesome. You're a real homie."

thedeacon · 2011-05-13T11:42:23+00:00

You guys look like brothers!

jamonman · 2011-05-13T19:08:26+00:00

How did you manage to take pictures of people you just met? I always feel like people don't like their pictures taken, esp cameos, like you have there.

Sed5 · 2011-05-13T19:10:31+00:00

The Apocalypse Opener

I MUST KNOW, did this work? what were the responses you got?

also if you're coming to the states you should meet up with the LA seddit. :)

mmmgw · 2011-05-13T19:17:45+00:00

I have to ask, are there Asian dudes in your entourage (if any) that gets any play?

InsouciantS · 2011-05-13T08:46:12+00:00

Fucking love this! Good work guys

MonkeySteriods · 2011-05-13T11:12:41+00:00

On the street game... just a pet peeve of mine... get your hands out of your pockets. [to the left]

yokhai · 2011-05-13T14:18:33+00:00

I don't know how calling a girl one of the bro's will get you the expected results here in the states, depending on where you are. Its a very "in" thing for girls to play up their tomboy nature and probably take it as a compliment. I think the Japanese female culture is a bit different.

Kinre · 2011-05-13T15:56:58+00:00

I love the idea of the "bro disqualifier." If you get a chance to field test it more when you get back to the US I'd love to hear how it works. Gonna try it myself when I get back someplace I speak the same language as the people.

chumpta · 2011-05-13T23:29:08+00:00

Girl immediately begins qualifying herself to me, explaining why she's not just "one of the bros" and how she's really feminine

forcing acknowledgement of sexual dichotomy! you dog, you.

2011-05-13T14:18:06+00:00

Why are you guys in Japan?

Title	[FR] TokyoSeddit Lords Over Shibuya & Seduces Model (Value of Social Proof and more - with pics!)
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Upvotes	69
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Date	May 13, 2011 7:26 AM UTC (15 years ago)
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