How important is it to have muscle mass in order to gain physical attraction?

kurtgodelisdead · 2012-08-23T16:28:14+00:00

As long as you wear clothes that fit right and have other parts of your game down you don't NEED muscle mass to attract girls. However, you'll find that you will attract more girls if you have some muscle. I went from skinny to a good physique in a couple years and the difference in girls attracted to me is night and day. Having muscle initiates some kind of primal mating call in them. If you're going to get serious with lifting weights do it for yourself and not the women. Women are just benefits of having a great physique.

iwenttocharlenes · 2012-08-23T18:21:18+00:00

Women's taste for good physique vary a little. Of course there may be the rare chubby chaser, but in general, I've noticed women prefer a few different types of things. Some like really lanky guys--although I often see that paired with guys that wear skinny jeans and go to punk shows. Some women like the football player kind of body. But what I see most is women attracted to the soccer/swimmer type of body--being overly bulky is a bit much for some of them, and so they prefer someone healthy and toned but not overly buff.

That being said, you should lift because you want to lift. If you want to build up a ton of muscle mass, even though the super toned look may work better with women, do that if it's what you want. It's most important that YOU like your body.

On top of this, don't put too much stock into how big your muscles are. This has been said before, but I'll reiterate--because society puts so much stock in looking like a football player, they are often really confident, which is what the women are REALLY attracted to. So as long as you act like you are the fucking man, it matters little what your muscles are like.

Working out tends to help our confidence, but it's best if we have the confidence regardless and work out because it's healthy.

senator_mendoza · 2012-08-23T17:33:39+00:00

i don't think huge muscles are important, but girls like it when you're strong enough. like if you can lift something that she's struggling with, if you can physically overpower her when you wrestle around, if you can pick her up and spin her, if you're sitting on the couch and can stand up and pick her up while she's lying on you trying to stop you from leaving. i've found that girls respond really positively to stuff like that.

also - you mention below that you don't wanna get bulky... don't worry about it. i spend a LOT of time and energy trying to get bulky and it's HARD. any kind of regular lifting program (look up "stronglifts") will do you a world of good and if you start getting too big then just stop. regular weightlifting is great mental exercise too. yeah, it's hard, and sometimes it hurts, but you sack up and do it anyway which feels great. i think it personally gives me a little extra confidence and spring in my step.

ImKumarYo · 2012-08-23T17:46:08+00:00

I went from 138 to 150 in a very short amount of time (2 months or so) doing crossfit and the GOMAD diet. It helps so much it's not even funny. And not just with women. Other guys take you way more seriously when you put on a little weight.

It appears you're concerned about looking "bro-y". That's dumb. If you're a skinny dude you have years of work to make you look like a frat guy. I've kept gaining and am up to 160 (goal was originally 165 but I'm probably going to up that) and I'm nowhere near looking like an oversized douche.

My suggestion would be start doing a workout that can help you put on weight but is also for you. If you want to look like Bruce Lee try doing P90x or Insanity workouts and make sure you diet properly (this is bigger than anything). A lot of protein and just a little lifting type workouts and you'll be able to keep running but slowly put on weight. I've been gaining consistently while playing soccer 2-3 times a week and literally never lifting.

Final point, lift for yourself not for girls. Girls are a by product of you feeling good when you're in shape. Lifting for the sole purpose of getting more girls will probably still work but trust me, you'll move away from that line of thinking quick once you start recognizing other benefits from your hard work.

Edit: this is an article I read a couple months before starting to work out that really got me thinking about it. (that and an ex gf making a comment about me seeming unhealthily skinny when she saw me after a year or so)

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/89158

kurtgodelisdead · 2012-08-24T09:58:23+00:00

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Whisper · 2012-08-23T20:46:48+00:00

Not very.

It is important to have muscle mass in order to be fit and healthy and have lots of energy.

Social skills for getting girls, black iron plates for being healthy and feeling good.

Try it. Seriously. Once you get over the initial self-consciousness and uncertainty, you'll be glad you did.

kurtgodelisdead · 2012-08-23T23:18:12+00:00

When I first got into bodybuilding, my numbers increased as well as a slight increase in quality. I had a 90% success rate (f-close.)

Now that I have been bodybuilding serious for about a year, a few things have happened:

Females approach me more often, escalate kino, make moves.
I get rejected more by girls with low self esteem
Women automatically put a shield up
I often go home alone
I associate with strippers and go-go dancers
Associating with these women has made me lose hope in society
Men are attracted to me
Men respect me more
I get my chest and ass felt up often
I get discriminated against for being muscular

Conclusion: Working out has it's benefits, but there is a bell curve relating how in shape you are to success.

edit: also being in really good shape has caused me to start comparing myself to bodybuilders. I will never look as good as them, so I feel relative depravity.

the_cucumber · 2012-08-25T07:59:22+00:00

I think pleasantly plump trumps skinny when there is little muscle mass (Teddy bear effect?) but are you tall? Some girls fetishize tall skinny dudes., so you may not need to worry too much. And if you're Asian it's usually more accepted too (just in my experience, no stereotype meant).

But if you're short and skinny, you best try to at least bulk up your arms/shoulders since that'll give you some extra width, and it's generally exposed. Same goes if you're an average height, but moreso if you're otherwise attractive or really good at pickup.

I_Am_Black_Jesus · 2012-08-23T18:20:28+00:00

It isn't that important I will be honest I am a LARGE man and I have no trouble finding/talking to women. It's mostly about self confidence and how you carry yourself. What you wear can be important but a smile and a high head can take you far.

Kozbot · 2012-08-23T21:44:39+00:00

Bruce lee was fucking huge for his height. Lat spread like whoah

kurtgodelisdead · 2012-08-23T17:01:16+00:00

For anyone who's searching this question at a later date, check out this forum thread:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?454333-Well-defined-muscles-more-attractive-than-big-muscles#.UDZgw6T3s24

MsLT · 2012-08-24T11:05:09+00:00

Personally, I don't like muscular or built men, but that's just me. Skinny, lanky boys. Unf <3 Yes please.

GoP-Demon · 2012-08-24T18:21:34+00:00

Muscle ain't just about attracting women, it's about getting confidence.

2012-08-23T22:26:02+00:00

Not important at all (can't speak for other women of course!). Confidence is way more important. I like tall guys with a pot belly. So there you go ;)

Title	How important is it to have muscle mass in order to gain physical attraction?
Author	kurtgodelisdead
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Date	August 23, 2012 4:20 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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