Is our lack of male only spaces hurting us?

FluffyRabbit36 · 2024-10-11T22:35:07+00:00

If female only spaces exist to make women "feel safer", then I want male only spaces so I don't have to worry about dealing with obnoxiously loud or schizo women

NoPants252 · 2024-10-11T22:48:46+00:00

I felt this when the wives took over our guys poker nights. We were having a great time then one of the host wives felt left out. Dude needed to say this is a guys thing and encourage her to go hang with her friends.
Next thing you know she's the only woman at the table, yelling at Alexa to play her music and (I shit you not) letting her tinkerbell sized dog walk around on the TABLE.
I went all in, folded and left.

IceCorrect · 2024-10-11T23:41:40+00:00

They are needed, then come women who need to moderate it.

Look at games, movies and another "nerd" things.

At first people were welcome to include women, but they were not fine with just this. They were not fine when you treated them like the boys, they wanted to be treated like they used to - special

walterwallcarpet · 2024-10-11T23:53:44+00:00

Take a look at the Wiki page on this sweet old lady/s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Miller_Gearhart

Under the section on her 'writing': "The real danger is the phenomenon of male bonding, that commitment of groups of men to each other, whether in an army, a gang, a service club, a monastic order, a corporation, or a competitive sport...."

There's only one kind of therapy that women can provide for men. And, it comes at a high price, a lifetime of peonage.

All other therapy requires the understanding that men have for other men, and the male condition. Women are unable to break out of the female bubble. They'll insist that men calibrate their life experience through the lens of their own female experience. So - a female therapist is an absolute non-starter.

Had my own moment of enlightenment decades ago. My wife had (and still has) an unlimited capacity for sticking her head in the sand regarding external threats of any description, be they Corporate malfeasance at work, or planning regulations which may affect your house. "Oh, life's not LIKE that..!" she'd exclaim. One day, I'd had enough, and replied: "It must be good to go through a life where everyone wants to f\ck you, rather than fight with you."*

She didn't speak to me for days.

jessi387 · 2024-10-11T22:29:31+00:00

Yes. There is a pervasive myth that male only spaces don’t exist because they are not in demand. But Warren Farrell, in his book, the myth of male power, describes a time when they were plentiful, but feminists shut them all down. This also correlated with - although I can’t exclusively determine causation as I’m sure many other variables are relevant - the rise in male suicide.

Cablurrach · 2024-10-12T04:11:33+00:00

I would love a safe male place that I could go to and talk about my problems etc without having some female insult me or invalidate my feelings like they've done to me my entire life.

ConvolutedMaze · 2024-10-12T03:31:03+00:00

I think what's hurting us more is how we treat other men around us. There's so much more competition between men now due to how hard it's become to get jobs and girlfriends compared to the past. Hard to have that solidarity when you feel the need to mog other men in one way or the other. I've tried making friends at the gym and things like that but it just felt kind of toxic in my experience even though it sounds nice in theory.

Diligent-Physics189 · 2024-10-12T05:49:57+00:00

There is a meme image of the cycle that keeps happening to male spaces. Basically women infiltrate by whatever means available to them, and then the weak hanger on men follow and it erodes the original culture into normie slop to the point where all of the original men leave the space, and then rinse and repeat. It has happened to most "nerd" communities already. I think that having access to male spaces would have done me a lot of good as a youth, providing a level of grounding and even structure.

Unable-Choice3380 · 2024-10-12T13:38:39+00:00

I agree. I want a space free of narcissism and fear of accusations

Im M btw. I post with female avatar. This is my 3rd Reddit account. Less getting banned now for the same nature of comments. I rest my case.

Ziodyne967 · 2024-10-12T08:18:53+00:00

Short answer? Yes.

squirrelfoot · 2024-10-13T13:26:23+00:00

Men need support from other men. Over thirty years ago, one of my friends was raped when he was in his early twenties. His only source of help and support afterwards was the female run rape crisis centre in our home town and the university councelling service, also all women. He was OK with that, but needed a woman to accompany him to the rape crisis centre in case his presence alone triggered the women seeking help there.

He was deeply afraid of gay men for a while, as his rapists were homosexual men, but the only, non-professional men who wanted to support him were gay. He was bullied over his rape by heterosexual men when they found out. They said it was his fault for being blond and 'pretty'. That toxic behaviour is changing. (I should add that his treatment by the police and the doctors and nurses, whether male or female, responsible for his hospital treatment for anal tearing and internal injuries was exemplary.)

What I like best in the men's rights movement is the push for men to help other men, especially when they are vulnerable. I think my friend would recieve more help if his attack happened now. Please be part of the force that makes change happen and be kind to other men.

OtterWithKids · 2024-10-12T15:21:03+00:00

But… but… that’s sexist!

OhFuuuuuuuuuuuudge · 2024-10-12T00:15:49+00:00

_Genghis_John_ · 2024-10-13T04:54:46+00:00

This is very interesting to me. I was watching a video from a Christian woman on why so many more men seem interested in Christian theology despite women outnumbering men within Christianity. One comment mentioned how more women attend non-traditional parishes while the gender ratio is more balanced (still mostly femalle) in traditional parishes.

One of the comments mentioned that men don't seem to follow women, but women seem to follow men to some extent. Im starting to wonder if there is a similar psychological impulse at play when it comes to women wanting access to all-male spaces.

Fickle_Ad_2825 · 2024-10-12T04:59:59+00:00

Yes, 100%. Most of the males don't share their feelings or emotions, which is absolutely correct and the most logical thing to do in today's day and age(and i do the same), but every male should have atleast one male friend who can listen to his friends problems. That is it. I don't think we even want a solution or support. Males are taught to deal with their own problems right from the beginning. Even if males don't have any support we still thrive and achieve and earn and do everything but it would be good to have someone you can really trust.

Lilly_Rose_Kay · 2024-10-12T09:45:00+00:00

At many churches, there are men's Bible study groups and men's only outings. I think it is important for men to get together and be men as well as having other men to talk to and mentor. I encourage my husband to go out and have a guys night once in a while.

3gm22 · 2024-10-12T10:18:14+00:00

Marxism via feminism has destroyed men-only spaces by insisting women must be allowed in them.

People realize this don't they?

Men and women can never be the same, and need to be treated differently. Equity between them is impossible.

PeonSupremeReturns · 2024-10-12T13:31:41+00:00

I was fortunate enough to have grown up in a time when guys could still hang out with other guys. Then we all started dating because society told us to and that was the end of that.

ChargeProper · 2024-10-13T17:17:40+00:00

Haven't gone through the article yet but yes it is hurting us and we do need our own spaces.

JustNefariousness625 · 2024-10-11T23:25:23+00:00

I was at a sports bar with my gf Sunday night and it was a decidedly male space. Yes there was a couple women but they were like oddballs. Most women were just the staff

Diligent-Physics189 · 2024-10-15T03:31:40+00:00

I found the meme that I was referring to in a comment thread below. It's very relavant.
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63daddy · 2024-10-12T16:26:29+00:00

For me, the lack of male only spaces isn’t as much of a problem but rather the double standard of female only spaces that deny men, that’s more of the issue.

I do however feel the Boy Scouts feeling pressured to accept girls has hurt opportunities for boys. (The Girl Scouts of course not accepting boys). A friend of mine is a Scout organizer and tells me the special trainings now required and inability to get female leaders has resulted in a large cut in activities offered.

Title	Is our lack of male only spaces hurting us?
Author	Inner-Discussion-388
Upvotes	207
Comments	53
Date	October 11, 2024 9:59 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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