“Men seem to make life for women worse”

63daddy · 2025-09-30T14:30:56+00:00

What women in this article are essentially saying:

I hate being single and having to provide for myself, but I’d rather stay single than be with a man who can’t provide for me and afford me the lifestyle I want.

What men are saying:

I’d love to be in a relationship, but it’s not worth it if all I’m going bend over backwards to provide for a woman who has unrealistically high expectations. (And then probably get royally screwed over in a divorce).

NibblyPig · 2025-09-30T15:39:07+00:00

"My alone feels so good"

Ok, so you don't need to complain about it then, right? Right?

Or is this just cope because the only guys you ever date are those who come to you, and guys that come to you are more often than not, absolute trash tier humans.

Which_Ad_3917 · 2025-09-30T15:49:52+00:00

I clicked on the link expecting to see some data to back it up, but it’s all vibes. I mean, I have only myself to blame for that

WanabeInflatable · 2025-09-30T14:30:17+00:00

So the vice versa, lots of women are detrimental when added to man's life

wordjedi · 2025-09-30T17:00:47+00:00

Folks, these are not sexy 22 year old virgins here

....Sarah, 43, a sales representative from California....

So retail worker then?

Many of the responses were surprisingly similar. The most frequently listed qualities women said they were looking for..<long ass list, as always>..as well as..<more bullshit>..in many cases.....

Man, same old shit. VOLUMES of articles have been written about "what women really want", but the ball gets dropped turning the camera around and showing us the woman speaking being a middle aged, likely single mother, likely in debt with minimal savings, likely very overweight, with no hobbies or interests or anything interesting to say, woman.

So much gynocentric media consumed they're stuck in thinking they're shopping for men in a catalog, instead of stepping up and becoming the woman all men dream of then watching them line up at her door

it seems like the men are super low effort,” she said. “Not responding on dating apps, not effectively communicating, not wanting to plan dates

This is just Tinder. She left swipes hundreds of men, then decides she must be a "goddess" and expects some fairy tale prince charming to get down on his knee with a dozen roses and perfect dialog, otherwise she'll keep on left swiping so watch out mister!

I've been slim and fit all my life. Her description is almost exactly how I interact with very overweight women who are simply aiming too high. I know from experience we would be a broken couple from day one, but since they're immune from criticizing themselves and right-sizing their expectations, the whole system is broken

True-Lychee · 2025-09-30T17:13:32+00:00

Note the ages of these women.

NewMoonlightavenger · 2025-09-30T15:32:33+00:00

I can categorically say that women have made MY life worse and that men helped them.

SlyPogona · 2025-09-30T14:32:38+00:00

The right "men are useful tools" The left "men are useless" Why are men moving to the right?

elebrin · 2025-09-30T20:02:52+00:00

I'd like to hear from these women what their desired life is like. I'm willing to bet that it's pretty well divorced from reality.

Many of the responses were surprisingly similar. The most frequently listed qualities women said they were looking for in a partner were kindness and emotional intelligence, mental and physical health, shared values, ambition and being “hardworking”, financial stability, masculinity and maturity, and a willingness to commit to an equal, monogamous relationship as well as, in many cases, having a family.

I'd like them to define kindness and emotional intelligence. I suspect that their definition and any examples given would look a lot like a yes-man with ESP.

Additionally, the way that she describes her ideal mate completely lacks self awareness. What she's described is a very boring person. You want someone to have fun with, someone to share activities with, someone to share a sandwich with, someone to share a run in the park, or a trip to Vietnam, or a roll in the hay with. Ambition and masculinity are great, but those things require creativity and experimentation which are activities most women will call immature and irresponsible.

420Aquarist · 2025-09-30T17:03:33+00:00

they are projecting

GermanWineLover · 2025-09-30T16:09:45+00:00

"The most frequently listed qualities women said they were looking for in a partner were kindness and emotional intelligence, mental and physical health, shared values, ambition and being “hardworking”, financial stability, masculinity and maturity, and a willingness to commit to an equal, monogamous relationship as well as, in many cases, having a family."

Of course, these expectations are not symmetrical and not even coherent. When women say "emotional intelligence" they mean willingness to listen to rants. When they say "masculinity and maturity" they mean: STFU about your problems.

Different-Product-91 · 2025-09-30T16:41:33+00:00

As usual, sentences like this ("men are..." etc.) show us the truth when we flip them.

Former_Range_1730 · 2025-09-30T14:55:41+00:00

Yeah I responded to that post by pointing out that a demographic of bi women, who have been with women, and could choose to only deal with women, still enthusiastically enjoy dating, having sex with, and marrying men over marrying other women. So men aren't making life worse for those women.

And it would be weird if this demographic of bi women, are more into men than straight women. So men aren't making life worse for most straight women.

So, who is this article really talking about? Seems that the women who feel this way about men, aren't the kind of women were much into men to begin with.

Ahielia · 2025-09-30T18:22:55+00:00

theguardian

Trash paper I wouldn't even wipe my ass with, next!

Falconoflight777 · 2025-09-30T17:57:10+00:00

Just another misandrist, female supremacy crap what said that men still not enslaved enough, and women need more supremacy...

RealStarkey · 2025-09-30T20:54:54+00:00

Imagine an article where gender is reversed

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2025-09-30T15:04:50+00:00

Well if women make mens life worse why would we not return them. The favor.

They often forget how much that they tell on them selfs.

Base on how relationship work where men give and invest first. And then afterwards see if women invest enough back. And then men just reflect how women treat them. And if they selfish so will men become very selfish.

The problem is women think there the price a lot of time and that they don't have to invest and give back and just sit back and keep reaping the rewards. No self respecting men will accept that past very very short term.

So get the results that women complain about. In many ways it showing on them self that they low quality investments and relationships options. Only wanna take take take. Never give as much as they expect to gain.

Mean-Significance963 · 2025-09-30T19:01:25+00:00

These women have self-selected for extinction.

Captaincorect · 2025-09-30T19:48:39+00:00

When her expectations are complete servitude

AvailableLook5919 · 2025-10-01T01:32:59+00:00

Seriously now, is this article satire?

Per the article: "The most frequently listed qualities women said they were looking for in a partner were kindness and emotional intelligence, mental and physical health, shared values, ambition and being “hardworking”, financial stability, masculinity and maturity, and a willingness to commit to an equal, monogamous relationship as well as, in many cases, having a family."

So everything imaginable, got it.

Edit: The list actually goes on: "Hundreds reported struggling to find a partner with shared values, political views and interests, and a similar education level..."

Salamadierha · 2025-09-30T14:57:17+00:00

What a surprise.

2025-10-01T21:11:21+00:00

Women are complaining about being alone, yet won’t fix the issue that’s keeping them alone: their unrealistically high standards.

Women expect a man to provide, whilst also wanting women to earn more than men overall. Those two truths can’t coexist for the majority of women.

It’s basically wanting the best bits of equality and not the worst bits. They can stay alone and continue complaining.

SarcasticallyCandour · 2025-09-30T14:25:00+00:00

The left eating itself.

AndyRoo2023 · 2025-10-01T11:54:34+00:00

Surprised are we?…that a female-centred editorial board would produce something like this?

When men start rejecting most women, their utterances and interests…and begin to work together in earnest, valuing their own worth and humanity…well, whatever they say will be irrelevant.

ArmchairDesease · 2025-10-02T09:33:50+00:00

Scores of women said that nobody available they had encountered met what they considered “basic requirements”.

The "basic requirements":

- "be emotionally intelligent and kind" (translation: read my mind, always understand how I feel, never upset me)

- "be in good mental and physical health" (be attractive, always in good mood and don't burden me with your issues, while I flood you with mine)

- "share my values and political views" (agree with me, cause I'm always right)

- "be ambitious, hardworking and financially stable" (provide me with security, so that I get the monetary benefits of my own career without risks in case of failure)

And they say the problem is men?

NorskChef · 2025-09-30T23:04:59+00:00

The Guardian is known as one of the world's most far left news sources.

IllustriousBowl4316 · 2025-10-01T13:17:47+00:00

Of course that article is written by women.... ☕

DecantsForAll · 2025-09-30T19:34:48+00:00

Yeah, the modern world is so much worse than primordial jungles.

emiliiagi · 2025-10-01T10:16:08+00:00

After I just started being submissive to every men I see my life did get way better.

Trev6ft5 · 2025-10-02T04:17:00+00:00

Natural selection is deselecting these idiots by not having them breed.

The_0bserver · 2025-10-02T06:52:31+00:00

I see a large laundry list of things they must have to consider a relationship. But somehow men are not able to clear that "low" bar at all for them. Not a single word about what they bring to the relationship though. Who wants to keep a 45 year old trailer park princess.?

rahsoft · 2025-10-04T11:33:21+00:00

There are several of these "woes me I cant find a man", therefore its mens fault articles popping up lately.

Despite having been told multiple times by multiple sources about why they are in this situation( of their own making), they refuse to take accountability for their own actions.

Reminder: a few years ago, a former female writer for Cosmo admitted that all their articles encouraging women into these practices were all done to boost advertising...

the same is being done here, just for clicks and likes..

the "outrage" algorithm that these "media" outlets( they ceased being journalists over 20 years ago when even their own guardian journalists warned about the "bloggers" and the downward spiral of quality journalism) is there to simply make money off other peoples misery( which is one of the reasons I would boycott anyone who advertises with the guardian. eg vote with your money)

these people will always do this until they grow up and join the adults.

Until then, the best thing to do is call it out, and then leave them to it. Our job is not to be their parent..

Ladies/ feminists ... its the "current year" and we are not coming to rescue you..

Vast_Fun_8411 · 2025-10-05T17:46:11+00:00

The most frequently listed qualities women said they were looking for in a partner were:

kindness (how much time, energy and money will he give)

emotional intelligence (will he listen to my moaning and complaining)

mental and physical health (will he look after me)

shared values (does he enjoy soap operas, expensive restaurants etc)

ambition (money and social status)

hardworking (money and social status)

financial stability (money)

masculinity (will he look after me)

maturity (will he look after me)

willingness to commit to an equal, monogamous relationship (will he do half the housework)

having a family (just an afterthought!)

Title	“Men seem to make life for women worse”
Author	RealStarkey
Upvotes	397
Comments	77
Date	September 30, 2025 2:18 PM UTC (9 months ago)
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