The common red pill stance that women don't know about men's experience, that they only can say something about relationship, but have no idea what it actually takes for a man to get into one (or sex, doesn't matter). That women don't realize that men need to go to gym or something, and they deal with the man who already put an effort or he will be invisible.

Okay. But then, this logic never extended to women's experiences. And men here in a bit of a stalemate because for some reason many of them detest listening to women about anything, and they themselves can't really know what women experience. Which is why they just imagine it and now deem themselves experts on what women are doing, experiencing, why and so on. When seems like they also see women they chose to approach, that they noticed, and others are invisible for them. They don't know what it takes for a woman to become noticeable, to be noticeable by right kind of men, and so on. That it takes some social skills to date in the direction she wants. And so on. They deal with women that already did the job. Same argument applies. But no.

Then also i can't count how many times men mansplained women's experiences to women. They tell what women feel. What women want. What women encounter. What they think. And the only basis for this...is conversations with men. And they refuse to see stupidity of all of it, and double standard, that they do exactly what they ask women to stop.