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[–]jm51 43 points44 points45 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I messaged her to check if I could bring my SO as my +1
I'm guessing that there has been VERY awkward incidents over the years for the OP to ask the question straight out.
If it were truly minor things, OP would have said something on the lines of 'Great! We'll be there' leaving the bride to be to come in with 'Actually...'
[–]RedPillWife_June2014 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Exactly.
There is much the OP is not sharing.
Why would a bride include a +1, but not want someone's SO to go? And why would a guest need to text the bride to check as such?
Too much missing from this picture. For all we know, the OP is a plate, and her friend is drawing the line.
[–]Agent_Elle 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is actually my first wedding of my generation of friends that I am invited to, so I wasn't sure of the plus one etiquette...is it normally assumed that guests can bring a date? It didn't say anything about +1s on the invitation or the RSVP website so wanted to confirm with her.
I originally assumed that I was allowed to bring a date, which would naturally be my SO of 5 years, and, it's a pretty casual wedding. But my SO wanted me to check. He probably had a hunch that they might not what him there.
[–]RedPillWife_June2014 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fair enough!
The etiquette is: the invitation is for exactly who it is addressed to. The +1 means you are welcome to bring a date or a friend. No restriction.
If you're not familiar with this then it's understandable to drop your friend a quick text to figure out what's going on.
So: If I were to recieve an invite for Mr and Mrs RPWJ2014 and the invite did NOT include my children's names or "and family" then it would be clear that it is a non-family event. (A formal evening wedding, perhaps?) OR if it was addressed solely to me, then of course just me. Like a bridal or baby shower... BUT if the shower invite was addressed to Dh and RPW then it would be a Jack and Jill shower.
So really, by addressing the invite Agent_Elle +1, the bride was literally leaving the door open for you to bring along any one guest - anyone. Your BFF, your sister, your brother, Santa Claus, or in this case, your BF. It is rude to restrict the +1. It is not unusual, when a couple is not married, to address the invitation as such. Perhaps if someone wanted to be succinct then it could be addressed Agent_Elle Lastname and AEsBF Surname. But now I'm just rambling on.
I have a theory about Bridezilla that I developed while wedding dress shopping. I think she is borne from the mountains of what tulle that have to be sorted through while finding a dress. It really can go to some women's heads.
[–]boydeer 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yep.
[–]sarahbotts 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A contrary opinion, but you should attend your friends wedding. It's an important event in her life, and she wants to include you in it.
From her response:
"I know you guys have been together for a long time and I know he's the one you've chosen to be with, but the few interactions we've had with him have not been positive ones and we would prefer that he not be at our wedding."
I take away that your friend values as a friend, but just doesn't want a negative experience at her wedding. I don't think that's such a bad thing. It's honestly the most polite response, and she's not trying to be offensive with you.
[–]boydeer 35 points36 points37 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i'm a fairly RP dude, but here are some potentially contrary opinions to what you are getting here:
your SO has met this girl a few times and had bad interactions with her. what are the "few awkward incidents"? the RP thing to do is to let delusional people carry on.
it's her wedding, and if he can't avoid tactlessly challenging her core beliefs, he doesn't belong there. if there is bad blood, he doesn't belong there.
if you want to go to the wedding, see if your SO is okay with it. ideally, you would be able to reconcile the relationships, but your friend's wedding is certainly not the time to be doing it. and if you want to leave the door open for a better relationship between your college friends and your SO, skipping the wedding is poor strategy, IMHO.
you don't have to explain the situation to your SO. if he can't grasp the concept, he's not going to be able to survive while maintaining RP beliefs.
my mother picked fights and alienated people, and what we would say over in TRP is if you have a woman who picks fights and alienates people, you should next her. i'm not saying that you should next your SO, but in keeping with this sub's guideline of self-reflection and striving towards personal growth, i would suggest you consider that you and your SO have presented the wrong face to these people.
you and your SO have given them the impression that your relationship is something you need rescued from. either your college friends are BP idiots who aren't worth your time, or it's worth your time to examine how you've gotten to this point. perhaps you've flaunted how different your relationship is. perhaps your being colder to him in front of them is just the social convention that is expected in that group, and he doesn't respond appropriately to it.
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[–]tweetopia 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I just don't think OP has given us enough info to draw any logical conclusions. For all we know her boyfriend could be a raging douche. Being an RPer doesn't alter your fundamental personality traits. I hesitate before I jump to the conclusion that OP's friends are awful and beta. Why would they be compatible as long term friends if they were so different?
Using your example, just because someone isn't an asshole to their SO doesn't mean that they aren't an asshole.
[–]MrsStrom 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not everyone wants to get married. Many couples are happy living together without getting married, especially if they aren't planning to have children in the near future. And either way, if others were allowed to bring their boyfriends, then it's a serious breach of social etiquette to tell one lady she can't bring hers. OP and her SO are a social unit. You either invite both, or neither.
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm sorry, but if someone rejects my SO, then they reject me. Especially after 5 years. I would say "Good luck with your marriage." and be done with them.
[–]MrsStrom 31 points32 points33 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is no way in hell I would attend any function where my SO wasn't welcome. And there is no way in hell that I'd tell a friend her SO wasn't welcome. You need new friends.
[–]nnikolaki 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. She doesn't sound like a dear friend to me. Actually, she sounds like an asshole.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I'd say stop hoping for them to get along. It's not up to you to control how your friends feel about your SO. If they don't like him and he's staying in your life, then that's all there is to it. Tell your SO straight up why he can't go. If he is horribly offended, it is his issue.
The real question is whether or not you're going to go. If you stay home, you are missing out on a dear friend's big day. If you go without your SO, you will be able to enjoy it. Unless your SO asks you to choose between them, you won't be causing a divide by going.
I don't think your friend is being toxic. She is taking control of the day that is all about her, that she is going to be paying for, and she is supposed to enjoy. Decide upon what will make you happy, not upon anyone's emotional manipulation. Stay home or go, it depends on you.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
She is taking control of the day that is all about her, that she is going to be paying for, and she is supposed to enjoy. Decide upon what will make you happy, not upon anyone's emotional manipulation.
There's no emotional manipulation mentioned anywhere - so way to overreact
"Her special day" ?? Way to encourage the selfish, bratty, bride cliche - that's exactly the kind of entitlement and selfishness we discourage on this sub.
You clearly seem to think her friend's disapproval, criticism, and rudeness should carry more importance than the validity of the OP's long term relationship. This is about blatant disrespect, and an entitled woman demeaning a woman she claims to be friends with.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
In response to your numbers:
I didn't say there was any emotional manipulation. I actually addressed that I don't think the bride is trying to manipulate OP. That clause was more in response to other comments saying the bride is being "toxic".
Maybe I used the wrong words. "Their" special day? The bride and groom. This is their wedding. I don't think they are required to invite anyone they don't want to invite, as with any get-together anywhere. We can't see very far into the issue because all we have is this post, but I don't think saying her SO is unwelcome is bratty. It's straightforward and mature.
Maybe this rejection of the SO follows a pattern of rudeness, but by OP's surprise I'd say this situation was unexpected. Again, it's not manipulation. It's a boundary. OP was warmly welcomed, her SO was not. If this story is not missing any important chunks, the bride was drawing a line and letting OP decide what she wants to do.
I think a person throwing a party of any kind is entitled to control over who is coming and who is not. The hosts, if reasonable, weighed the consequences and chose the straight forward route instead of lying about why the SO is not allowed, or forgoing OP's invitation all together to keep the SO from attending. If the bride turns out to be making a jab at OP, shame on her. If she and her fiancé are actually being mature adults and being straight forward with their comfort zone, right on.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
So a long standing couple that is known to be a unit is allowed to be split up for no good reason? And it's acceptable to inform the friend with harsh statements about why the SO in question is a jerk?
You have an odd sense of etiquette if that's the case. This woman was a witch. Disrespectful, belittling and rude for no good reason. If the OP has been dating her SO for as long as the bride and groom have been together - then people are going to want to know why she's showing up alone.
Defining a comfort zone does not include bashing a dear friend's SO.
[–]boydeer 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This woman was a witch. Disrespectful, belittling and rude for no good reason. If the OP has been dating her SO for as long as the bride and groom have been together - then people are going to want to know why she's showing up alone.
i think it depends on what the "incidents" OP hinted at were. i could imagine myself not being invited to some weddings, and it would be appropriate. weddings are stressful and significant social engagements.
OP could be minimizing the nature of the disagreements, or not have the full picture of her SO's behavior. i don't know.
this doesn't mean OP should go to the wedding. and i think your characterization of the friend is quite plausible.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I don't detect any sort of harsh tone in this:
It actually seems quite diplomatic considering she is bluntly telling a friend that her SO is unwelcome.
Did I miss OP saying anything else about what the bride actually said? Where are you getting bashing, belittling, or rudeness?
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
There have been a few awkward incidents over the years but there have been positive interactions as well, and it's not like my SO ever acted way out of line towards them... Mainly it seems to be them thinking that my SO is too controlling of me and I shouldn't have to cater to him.
So a few odd encounters is enough do dismiss a person outright? This is about the bride's sense of entitlement. It's rude.
I know you guys have been together for a long time and I know he's the one you've chosen to be with
I disapprove of your SO, I think you made a mistake by staying with him this long
but the few interactions we've had with him have not been positive ones
I hold onto grudges, and I am going to have the maturity of a 3 year old by completely ignoring the validity of your relationship and only inviting you to come to the wedding
and we would prefer that he not be at our wedding.
Look down, you see that line? It's either him or me. Now kiss my feet.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No. I think you're wrong and reading too far into the statement.
[–]DelphineSerafine1 Star 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whether you think PhantomDream09 is wrong or not is irrelevant.
The fact of the matter is that OP's friend has decided to disrespect OP's relationship in a very serious and significant manner. By inviting her and making the statement "I know he's the one you've chosen to be with, but..." is, to any woman with two braincells to rub together, nothing more than a veiled insult.
Having gotten married less than a year ago, the whole wedding etiquette thing is very fresh to me: long-term SOs are treated as spouses. If the invitee you want lives with their SO, even if they aren't married, they get treated as a social unit (and should, by rights, get a joint invitation). The friend with the boyfriend of a couple of months? Doesn't get the same standing.
OP's friend demanded that OP choose between her SO or her. "You can come, but he can't" is pretty clear.
[–]TempestTcup 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would not consider someone so rude as the bride a "dear friend" anymore. I wouldn't cut her out of my life completely, but I certainly wouldn't go to the wedding, and if she continues to be rude, then I would cut her out of my life. No "friend" is going to dictate who I am with or any part of my life.
[–]SoftHarem 24 points25 points26 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Fuck her. Stay home and let your boyfriend's Patriarchy wash all over you. In a few years you can send her a nice gift for her divorce.
[–]MrsStrom 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Divorce parties are all the rage these days. I suppose a gift wouldn't be all that far out of line.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
they even have divorce cakes (to be honest they look funny and awesome as hell though :D)
[–]Agent_Elle 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ironically the bride used to joke about her mom sending a stud finder (the tool for finding studs in a wall) to her girlfriends as a divorce gift
[–]RedPillMotors 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much this. None of my wife's friends liked me. 20 years later...
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Out of respect for yourself and your SO don't go. Yes she's an old friend, but she's showing that she's not really your friend in this. People change. And your SO, you spend much more time with him than your old friend. This is the relationship you want to preserve. You even admit yourself that their influence makes you act colder toward him. He will be upset if you go and I wouldn't blame him. It's not ok. And respect of others SOs is important in these sort of invitations. Unless they got drunk and hit the bride or have a reputation of acting out at weddings, it unacceptable to not invite a SO that has been with someone as long as you have. Or like PhantomDream09 said if they aren't having SO's at all or only direct family.
If you go it will be disrespectful to your SO. It's saying you value them over him. It's saying you accept their judgement of him. And it's saying you don't respect yourself. That you'll let them make demands and not accept someone you chose, you love. Send a crappy gift, and say you cannot come if he doesn't. Make sure to let them know that it's your decision, not his. And let them know that you are a package deal, that to be loving toward you is to be loving toward him and vice versa in them being hateful toward him. Let them know, hey I feel hurt that you don't respect me and my choices for this. I can't go where I'm not welcome, and make no mistake you aren't welcome if they aren't accepting of a relationship that brings you so much joy.
[–]MrsKittenHeel 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you go it will be disrespectful to your SO. It's saying you value them over him.
Yep. This is 100% true. Going to a wedding he is not welcome at is a horrible thing to do. They are supposed to be a team.
[–]FleetingWishEndorsed Contributor 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"It's too bad you don't like my SO, because I absolutely am on his side and agree with him entirely, so I guess I can't attend your wedding either. So sorry."
[–]little_red_ 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
♀ This is a graceful way of letting someone know you do not agree with their decision. As much as I would like to tell the bride she doesn't value a relationship the way I do and she's the one getting married, this is subtle but to the point. I like it.
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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Do not go. This isn't necessarily the end of your relationship with your friend. In fact, I think if you want to remain friends, you are better off not going. Don't hold any grudges or anything. Do not try to say something snarky. Just don't go and the message is sent loud and clear (it sounds like they know that you intend to go now, but the change to not go after they told you not to bring your SO is clear enough). Just don't talk about the wedding. Don't ask about how it went.
The problem with going is that there will be a lot of awkward moments where people will ask you where your significant other is, or why you are a "single" at the party. You BP friends may try to use it as an opportunity for an "intervention" and talk shit about your man. And ultimately, you are probably going to come back more pissed off than you are going into it. What good can come out of going? If you don't bring your significant other, then the next event that your group of friends go to, she is going to ask if you can leave your SO at home again, because she set precedent here. Going will probably end your friendship for good.
Don't go. The next time you guys hang out, bring your SO and don't hold any grudges for this. Don't be angry at all. Give them a chance to reconcile. If they continue to be hostile, then you may have to reconsider your friendship with them.
[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 12 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
This was an incredibly cruel and childish move on your "friend's" part. She is essentially drawing a line in the sand and forcing you to pick sides. She could have handled this much differently. If she apologized and said that there's limited space, so only parents/grandparents/married couples can bring a +1 - then the entire situation would be different (of course, this only works if she actually follows through on that statement). Or she could have said that there are a limited number of +1's available, and they have been reserved for direct family. Instead, she flat out says that your SO is not welcome. If that isn't bad enough --- she insults your SO, your relationship, and your friendship by passing judgement and essentially saying that he is not good enough to be at her wedding. You are not important enough as her friend to deserve having the man you love be with you. She cares more about her petty politics and pretending to have the upper hand than she does about common decency.
Her behavior is beyond rude and is absolutely inexcusable. Now, your SO may think of this as a good thing - especially if he doesn't care for your friend, and if he doesn't like weddings...but that's not the point. If everyone else with an established relationship is granted a +1 except you - then you should be seriously questioning just how much she actually values your friendship.
If anyone pulled something like this with me, I'd simply smile, and politely inform them that I won't be able to attend. Skip the present, and send a "condolences" card instead of the traditional "Congratulations" one. (Ok, that last statement is a joke, but the thought of actually doing that would be enough to make perk up my mood haha!)
This woman is selfish and cruel. Ask yourself very carefully if you want to relent to her insane demands.
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You take care now.
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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In addition to all the solid advice here, I'd say the key thing to do is asking your man if he actually wants to go. At the end of the day, this whole this is probably a non-issue because chances are he would rather have a day or two to himself than fly out to some wedding where he anyways isn't wanted and is amongst BPers. If he doesn't want to go, then there's not even a problem.
Explain the situation honestly to your SO and trust his judgment. Either he will encourage you not to go since clearly you value your friend more than she values you (and you are at a far higher maturity level). Or he will just not give a shit and tell you to go if you want, but he won't be going. In which case you get to make your own choice. What you do not want to do is hide the information and try to decide for him.
Some further food for thought is that complying with your friend and showing up alone will communicate to your friend that you are willing to sacrifice your wants for hers. She will try it again and again - baby shower, same old shit. Second wedding... third wedding, same old story. Once you show that you will comply and do what she wants rather than walk away, she will do it more.
[–]TempestTcup 32 points33 points34 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Don't go. She is trying to control your personal life; don't let her. she is a toxic influence in your life. NEXT!
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. This is a power play on her part; don't fall for it.
Ironically, for someone who believes your SO is controlling you, this woman's being awfully controlling/manipulative. I wouldn't be rude about it, just something like "that's a shame, I would have liked to make it. I hope it's a great time and we can hang out again with the four of us again soon!"
[–]MrsKittenHeel 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would RSVP 'no' to the wedding and let bygones be bygones.
She is shit testing YOU.
[–]RedPillWife_June2014 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I tend to agree.
I'm not so sure we're getting the full story here, though.
[–]DelphineSerafine1 Star 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You don't go. Its one thing that they don't like your SO, but, as I have had to explain to many young-ish people (those in their early to mid twenties), there is such a thing as social etiquette. For the purposes of a wedding, or other formal event, where long-term couples tend to be invited together, you and your SO are considered a social unit. For someone to invite one half of the unit and not the other is basically not to invite the unit. You wouldn't take someone else as your +1, since that's weird for something like this, so, you don't go.
Its one thing if one of you can't make it, but this is another entirely. Send a card and that's it.
[–]Ob1Kn00b 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tell your SO that this friend has decided that they aren't allowed to go to the wedding.
Then just stay at home with your SO, and involve yourself in cuddles/blowjobs/food/whatever else you do when you're having a lazy day off together. Bonus points if you make sure to make facebook posts about it during the middle of your BP friend's wedding.
[–]JohnnK 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How do I explain this to my SO?
By the sounds of it, he won't care in the least.
[–]JohnnK 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I deal with the same shit with my GF of 6 years and all her goofy ass friends. The funny part is it's always the loudest and most vocal of her friends that has the most fucked up of her own relationship. Her friends that are in a happy relationship are very pleasant to be around. The ones with awful relationships, single mothers, divorcees, and the like are all the ones telling my GF that I'm controlling and an asshole, etc etc.
It's ridiculous.
Most of them hate me because I am in different to them when they come around. I'm not trying to fuck them, and most of them have nothing of importance to say, so I basically ignore them and it infuriates them.
Meh, whatever.
[–]TRPsn 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It sucks, and they kind of sound like judgemental assholes, but I also don't really know that much about any of you. Pretty often in life, I say "Fuck it!" because I can't please everyone, so I please myself. Just fuck it. It's their wedding, it's their day, and they want you there. Go to the wedding, alone or being another girlfriend, and have a good time. Make it a girls night. I bet you your SO wouldn't be all that excited about going anyways. I hate weddings if I'm not there as a single guy. When you have your wedding, invite them because they are their friends. Both of them. That day is your day, and you both can forget about it, or serve them a pile of shit each in place of their salmon. Fuck it! It's your wedding, do what you want! All in all, it's your good friends' wedding. Go be a good friend. It's a way bigger deal to them than it is to you, and you can take whichever road you want on your wedding day cuz fuck it!! It's your fucking wedding day! That's really all I got for ya. Good luck!!
[–]Camille1132513 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
This advice is entirely inappropriate to the situation at hand.
Pretty often in life, I say "Fuck it!" because I can't please everyone, so I please myself. Just fuck it. It's their wedding, it's their day, and they want you there. Go to the wedding, alone or being another girlfriend, and have a good time. Make it a girls night. I bet you your SO wouldn't be all that excited about going anyways. I hate weddings if I'm not there as a single guy.
She is not a single guy. She is in a serious long term relationship and therefore is not able to just "say fuck it", she has other people to consider, as she explained in her original post. Ignoring her SO's opinion in this instance would be harmful to the relationship because it would be a clear indication that he was lower on her list of priorities. As RPW, we strive to handle conflicts and dilemmas in the most rational manner that best suits our SOs and relationships. Don't give advice if you can't separate what you would do in a situation from what someone else should do.
That day is your day, and you both can forget about it, or serve them a pile of shit each in place of their salmon. Fuck it! It's your wedding, do what you want! It's a way bigger deal to them than it is to you, and you can take whichever road you want on your wedding day cuz fuck it!! It's your fucking wedding day!
This is not how women should think about their wedding at all! Please don't reinforce the sense of entitlement most brides and aspiring brides have. Weddings are about the couple, not just the bride. She cannot and should not do whatever she wants regardless of how it may impact others.
Basically, this was not the place to post this sort of message. I'm sure you felt you were being encouraging and positive but really you're advocating for extremely selfish and destructive behaviours.
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Very well stated.
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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So you'd be totally on board if you had an SO and one of her friends completely insulted you and undermined the legitimacy of your relationship?
There's no reason to get upset, but there's also no reason to tolerate being humiliated, judged and insulted by someone that's supposed to be your friend.
[–]boydeer 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
not the person you're replying to, but it sounds like there were altercations between the SO and the friend. i would not be expected to be invited to the wedding of a woman i had altercations with.
[–]TempestTcup 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go be a good friend.
Why on earth would you "be a good friend" to someone who isn't being a good friend? If her friend is being hateful, there is absolutely no reason why she would need to encourage that behavior.
[–]little_red_ 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You don't go. You choose your husband over all else. You and him vs the world. You guys are a team. Don't pick another woman over your husband, someone who is getting married should understand that, and if they don't, she's already getting ready to be divorced in a few years anyway.
[–]little_red_ 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe you put less value on your man when he's your boyfriend instead of your husband but that doesn't make it okay and it doesn't mean I have to honor that viewpoint. Your SO, regardless of legal standing, is your teammate. I'd tell the 'friend' to kick rocks. I don't need a ring on my finger to know who is more valuable to me.
[–]gabilromariz 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is waaaaay worse than a breach of etiquette! It's not like they (groom and bride) would need to be with you guys more then two seconds if it came to that (Hi, thank you so much for coming! Gotta go say hi to everyone else, see you).
These are not the actions of a loving friend. BP or not, as your friend she owes you better than this. I would go find friends that respect me enough to either not invite my man with a little bit of grace or invite him as a respect to me, even if they didn't even say hi during the whole thing. Here are some tips for next time:
It sucks to be "in te middle" while trying to please everyone but this isn't a matter of picking sides. Pick your side, do what you think is right and don't let this friend decide for you. Even if you end up going, make sure it was your call, not you caving in to her
Hello BP lurkers, please stop voting on comments. Everything was stable on this thread until it was linked to your sub. Respect the rules and don't comment or vote.
Thank you.
[–]ColdEiric 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Her marriage is her moment to show the world that she is the hottest woman. You are allowed to come, because you are her friend and that makes her a good person. But if you bring your RP SO, then she doesn't look so very good anymore, because her SO isn't as much as yours. And how dare you try to make her look worse!
[–]tweetopia 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's a silly and childish comment.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
/u/ColdEiric was being sarcastic I believe.
[–]Agent_Elle 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]MorePancakes 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As all the RedPill Women and Men are saying here. Don't go. (RedPill Man here) I would not forbid my SO to go in this situation, but it would show such strong support and respect for her too decline as well.
[–]topsul 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If I were you, I would send a nice gift and not go. If my man isn't included, I wouldn't want to be a part.
I thought my college friends would all be my life long friends, but sometimes people go different directions. Then you realize they're a drain on you and not someone you want to associate yourself with. (Just one in particular I'm thinking of). Just be thankful that you won't be spending $190 on a bridesmaids dress for a wedding that won't last.
Why on earth did you ask if he could be your guest anyway? You either have an "and guest" or you don't.
Good luck with your decision.
[–]CopperRaccoon 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
"Send a nice gift"?
I don't think so, I feel that giving a harsh ultimatum like that disqualifies her 'friend' from a gift.
[–]topsul 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very good point. I'm use to sending nice gifts when I can't attend. Not when I don't want to attend because someone sucks.
[–]SaveRana -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You could send a clever gift, like a gift certificate to a mens clothing store in her name.
[–]boydeer 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
don't be passive aggressive
[–]CopperRaccoon 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like too much effort; ignoring/snubbing seems to be the way to go.
[–]TheSerpent 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Show this post to your SO. Tell him that this is your dilemma. Let him decide. Let him know that I told you to do it and because I know what I'm talking about he'll agree and understand that it's better of if he is provided the information that you are struggling with so that he can decide.
[–]TheSerpent 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The reality of the situation is that your friend is trying to come between you and him and that is really uncool and she is not a priority.
As a man that has purposely not been invited to weddings, I completely understand her perspective, because I'd probably fuck one of her friends or her even, and that kind of behavior is like.... awesome.
You are telling her to choose an old friend over her SO? This is the equivalent of putting her old friend, who she has grown apart from, at a higher status than her SO. That is not good for a relationship.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go back to TBP.
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