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"Fiancee leaves me to fuck other guys for 4 years, now wants to get back together. Should I take her back?" Comments are a mixed bag.

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Title "Fiancee leaves me to fuck other guys for 4 years, now wants to get back together. Should I take her back?" Comments are a mixed bag.
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Date February 24, 2014 1:43 PM UTC
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[–][deleted] 75 points76 points77 points 12 years ago* (29 children) | Copy Link

He's just devolving and he doesn't realize it. After getting burned by his first love, he never found any other love that feels the same, which is perfectly understandable. The mistake is thinking that he can re-experience that feeling by getting back with the same girl. He still won't feel it.

It's like a drug addict chasing his first high. It will never happen again. It is no longer a novelty and the brain has been saturated. He will try larger doses and stronger drugs to try to keep that feeling, and he will continue to devolve and spiral til he overdoses and dies.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

There is deep foundational truth in the proverb, "You can't step into the same river twice."

[–][deleted] 55 points56 points57 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

For all the dumb-asses like me who didn't get it at first, it's because the water is never in the same place again.

[–]anakinastronaut 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, that's awesome.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not only that, but there is also the fact that you change from moment to moment.

[–]WAFC 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And most of the time you change the shape of the river when you step in.

[–]AlmostRP 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

fatass.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Leave my mom out of this!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. I didn't get it either.

[–]ToTheLogicalExtreme 25 points26 points27 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It's no fucking joke, I've been there and almost killed myself, caused a lot of damage to myself and others. Ironically enough, TRP has helped me to become a better man.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 32 points33 points34 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

TRPs intention is to help you become a better man, fuck what the haters say about this place. We help men become better. It's helped me too.

Fuck therapy, people need TRP.

[–]50-cal 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hell yeah we do, this board has helped myself (and many others I'm sure) immensely. Understanding the foundational truths of society actually gives us a fighting chance in a cold, cruel world.

It's just a shame there's nowhere for our members to congregate out in the world, I'm certain there'd be many fast friends amongst us and a devastatingly awesome support structure.

[–]FugitiveAlpha 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And there you have it, make a regional trp sub. Either for your region, or as a post board for different regions.

One of the things about being a better person is realizing that if you want something, you should probably go out and do it :)

It's honestly not a bad idea for networking..

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ditto. Society's advice is to become a simpering bitch and speak to some moron for $200 an hour to listen to your troubles.

TRP fixes the problems and gets results. I love it when morons on reddit tell you that TRP doesn't work. Funny, I guess I'm just imagining my vastly improved lifestyle.

[–]charlie_bodango 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless they give you drugs. I think if they have their medical degree they've earned my attention.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ironically enough, TRP has helped me to become a better man.

Assuming one doesn't get bogged down by the heavy noise, then implementing TRP leads to becoming a better man as the typical case.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Reading things like this makes me thankful I am not capable of loving like that.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm fortunate enough to be RP'ed at a young age before I started dating for real. The psychological damage of believing in "true love" and having that bubble pricked is huge, because you know you will never feel that ever again. That's why so many people resist taking TRP despite, getting burned over and over. They hope that they can experience that first love one more time, but like the drug addict, it won't happen again.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The funny thing is even when you're a grown adult people keep feeding you the 'true love' lie. Unfortunately you start to see the true dynamics of relationships around you "Shes with him because he's rich" "He is letting her walk all over him because he's insecure" etc but people persist on applying 'true love' to these situations.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well mine was actual psychological damage of being around 24/7 mental abuse and manipulation. Makes it easy to spot and kinda made me immune to getting that attached to anything. My girlfriend hates it because she knows if we ever broke up I would be over it the second it happened.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's like a kid discovering that Santa isn't real. He can't unlearn it. For most guys in Western society, they start off believing the Disney model of love. Maybe if he is very lucky to be blessed with great genetics and he is born into wealth, he would naturally be alpha enough so his first relationship works out perfectly, and he gets married and lives happily ever after. But the moment a guy gets cheated on despite doing "everything right", he'll never be able to look at women the same again.

He'll know that the next girl can cheat on him again. He'll know that he isn't the main character of a Disney movie, things might not work out for him. The comfort of being able to have blind faith in his girl will be gone forever. He'll start seeing flaws in women and start realizing that none of them are perfect. For the most part, this is inevitable, kinda like when you first realize that you are not a superhero, and you accept it. But some guys cling onto the past and think that they can experience that pure innocent love again. They end up thinking "well, I couldn't feel that way with a new girl, maybe I can only feel it wit my ex, my first love". Occasionally you hear girls talk about this too, about how they never get over their first love. But the reality is that if anybody gets back with their first love, it still won't be the same. You know Santa isn't real now, even if you go back to your parents house and sleep in your old bed, you won't feel the magic or excitement of finding presents on Christmas morning any more.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbicepsblastingstud 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know Santa isn't real now, even if you go back to your parents house and sleep in your old bed, you won't feel the magic or excitement of finding presents on Christmas morning any more.

Oh man, this is perfect.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Really insightful post. You are entirely correct that after the first few 'loves' it just never feels very strong again. The first few times feel all consuming, afterwards you kind of get cynical and think "I've been here before I know how this ends".

Following the first few you do become more rational about the whole process and don't let yourself get sucked into it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you think women are the same way? After they've been in and out of love a few times they become somewhat immune to it? Or they stop giving a fuck and stop believing in it?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think at younger ages women have more idiolized views of relationships. But as they grow older they become increasingly bitter and they start to relationship hope.

I noticed when I was 18 I found women genuinly moarn relationship losses, but now i'm near 30 they just simply have the next monkey lined up and jump the second the relationship ends.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've noticed this also. My current gf is 29 and clearly love to her means nothing at this point, although she constantly wants me to reassure her that I love her, and always wants me to tell her that I miss her. It's a really strange duality I guess and I can't figure it out and don't want to explain it to her cause it would be pointless. I know she can't love me, I just don't know if it's on purpose lol.

[–]1kick6 60 points61 points62 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

My favorite part:

I'm a hormonal mess...I'm not normally like this

  1. dudes aren't hormonal messes. Stop trying so goddamn hard to be a woman, and use their copouts as your own.

  2. You spent the last 4 years FAPPING TO THOUGHTS OF YOUR EX. You are, in point of fact, EXACTLY "normally like this."

[–]throwwhatthere 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, fapping to her is the problem. He literally spent four years training his brain to release dopamine to her. 90% of total fappage?! That's the recipe for addiction.

I speak from experience. I literally spent a ton of my teens with some really weird fetishes (and very unhappy and confused about it) because I fapped too much to exotic porn while looking for variety. I was a kid, and I was horny as fuck. Men are programmed to seek variety. My flaw was that (for a host of reasons) I found some of the fetish stuff just a bit more interesting. Fapped to it just enough that over time it insidiously crowded out normal topics. Before I knew it, I was fapping exclusively to weird ass shit, because I had slowly hooked myself.

It took years of discipline (and a good deal of insight) to deprogram that shit. Now, when I do use porn (rare) I stick to healthy stuff: nubile young women in simple sets that emphasize perky tits and tight slits.

I also have a firm rule that I derived from this: never jerk off to an ex. It just makes you more dependent on them. Besides, how can you not feel like the most pathetic bitch in existence doing that? This man will need years of fap control to kill his addiction.

[–]JohnQuincyButtcheeks -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like me, I'm on my 27th day porn free and am an addict.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

dudes aren't hormonal messes. Stop trying so goddamn hard to be a woman, and use their copouts as your own.

Not to the same extent as women, but they still release oxytocin when they feel "in love", and that's exactly what's happening with this guy. Sure, it's not a manly thing to admit, but it's better than the rationalization "she's my soulmate, we're meant to be together, this feels so right!". He correctly identified that he can't trust his instincts because he's influenced by the addictive grip he let her have on his mind.

You're right about point 2 though, he put himself in this situation.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fapping to girls never accomplish anything.

[–]theVet -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

dudes aren't hormonal messes. Stop trying so goddamn hard to be a woman, and use their copouts as your own.

Well that's different, he is most likely feeling/talking about oxytocin the partner binding hormone - which is a real bitch.

[–]1kick6 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

4 years later? I've known heroin junkies who got clean faster than that.

[–]theVet -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It depends on the person and how prone they are to lamenting their losses and how strong their will is (and if they actually want to move on). Oxytocin can make you high as fuck, that's why people feel so good with their supposed "one true soulmate™".

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

dudes aren't hormonal messes. Stop trying so goddamn hard to be a woman, and use their copouts as your own.

Actually we do, but we have the best fucking hormone there is, which is testosterone. I experienced when going through 90 days of nofap that there is a lot of hormonal change. First you get moody and even sad, eventually all seems to trigger more anger than anything, but it's easily controllable. Nowadays I feel like I have a C4 explosive that I can trigger whenever I want.

Being a man is awesome!

[–]1kick6 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok, that's not being a hormonal MESS, though. Test makes you focused. Focused on smashing. Not crying about your 4 year old ex, and fapping with your tears like the dude in the redditlog.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you were because you hadnt jerked off or gotten laid

I was (I am) in a LTR I get laid on a regular basis.

[–]TattedGuyser 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I want to tell him to go for it. The guy is clearly so in deep with the idea of her he even calls her his 'gf' instead of his ex. Sometimes the only way to learn a lesson is to have it beaten into you. When she gets tired of him, drains his bank accounts, takes the kids and lives off him for the next 2 decades, he can come back and say "You were right". He's not even looking for advice, he's looking for support in his decision to take her back.

[–]Strongproudwoman 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, let the fucker jump in the fire

[–]5 Endorsed ContributorStayinghereforreal 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Sorry part about it is the OP is either looking for people to validate is decision/tell him to go for it or trolling. No way a guy could sensibly be weighing what to do here. This is so obviously a "Run, Forrest, Run!" situation that you strongly suspect troll.

[–]5 Endorsed ContributorStayinghereforreal 31 points32 points33 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Check out this gem in the comments:

... I hope you don't mind reading a female perspective. ... She dedicated her attractive time as a woman to you. Early 20s is a very flattering time for many women, and being desired is an experience that we treasure. She missed out on a lot of attention from men during college and the subsequent years when with you, and to marry would have been to miss out on that experience forever. If she were a flaky girlfriend like many comments suggest, I would find it surprising that she remained committed to you for 6 years, back when her chances of "finding someone better" were much higher.

That comment is so straight-over-the-plate-and-slow RedPill softball it reads like satire. But the poster offered it up as helpful insight into a woman's Special Nature during her Special Time in life.

That comment poster would likely also say you guys at the Red Pill don't have a clue regarding women.

[–]Hyooge 18 points18 points18 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It just shows that women like to follow the female crowd. If their friends are sleeping around before finding some chump to settle with, they want to do it too. They don't want to miss out on sex they don't want to miss out on being different from every other damn girl in the world. Men don't care about this shit. If I somehow found a gorgeous, virgin, RedPill girl I would more than happy to just fuck her. This is why women will typically vary in morals throughout different cultures. They follow the crowd.

[–]djunkmailme 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I tend to agree. Women tend to take whatever route they feel provides them the most "safety" and "security" at the time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no way that someone could be serious writing that shit. That's probably written by someone who really wants to see a man crushed by sadness.

[–]FriskyFrolics 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I saw this thread before it was linked here and immediately suspected troll. Not just because it's one of those "proving the Red Pill right" posts (which on its own isn't that suspicious, because these sorts of situations definitely do happen in real life, of course), but also because of the OP's username. He's using a throwaway name with the exact same structure as the OP of this recent post about discovering a video of his fiancée (a teacher) giving a public blowjob.

The two posts were written one day apart, both got quite a bit of attention, both were linked here, and both present a situation where Red Pill ideas can be applied (to offer the OP a more 'alpha' course of action and to affirm that "AWALT").

The usernames: /u/discover45 and /u/fiance45.

Suspicious? I'd argue yes. But then again, even if it is a troll, the comment section is illuminating nonetheless. These are real people responding to what they assume is a real situation -- and that, to me, is more interesting than the posts themselves.

[–]rj88631 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Meh, confessions, stories, movies, if you watch enough you realize they are mostly all the same. Plus, if you posting on subreddit, chances are you have read a few posts from that sub and you subconsciously adopt that style when posting your own. It is pretty much mad libs, people keep the structure and simply change the individual details. I find that it takes someone who writes a lot to break away from the mold.

[–]FriskyFrolics 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah, I get what you're saying, but I wasn't referring to the structure of the stories themselves. I was pointing out the similar structure of the two usernames (discover45 and fiance45).

Even though it's possible that the second OP was influenced by seeing the earlier post and unconsciously "borrowed" the same style of username with the same number on the end -- or that it was totally a coincidence -- I just think it's a bit questionable. Stories that seem like obvious "Red Pill bait" make me take a closer look, that's all.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

OP is either looking for people to validate is decision/tell him to go for it or trolling.

Neither, nor.

I realized that some people get satisfaction posting depressing and sad stories on the Internet. It is not actually trolling. He does not want to piss people off.

Some people have power fantasies. And post it on reddit to get even more satisfaction. Some people invent stuff how successful they are.

And some people invent stuff like this. Because this is their fantasy. Some get off to this thought.

I know this because in middle school I was like this. And this is actually very close to a power fantasy. When I was like 12, I imagined me in a perfect relationship. Then my imaginary gf does something incredibly stupid. And I have all the power to forgive her. I liked that thought.

This is not much different. It seems to you like it is a beta story. But it could be a power fantasy as well. And some people even have humiliation fantasies. Cuckolding is a thing.

There is a wide space between power fantasies and cuckolding. It seems like this guy has a combination of both.

EDIT: If this happened for real (this is 100% possible), he would not post it like this. Even if someone would post it. He would not go in details in the way OP did. OP did not write it in a manner to get advice. He wrote it to share his feelings. Why would you do that if this actually happened? The only logical reason is that he wrote it to focus on his feeling. How he was humiliated and then how he has all the power now. Now it is on him to decide about the destiny of his gf.

[–]purecyse 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can never go back home.

[–]boredinclass2 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On to the next one...

[–]TheCasualHistorian 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus Christ do I know that feeling, but I never succumbed to it.

Long story short - my ex proposed that we rekindle our relationship after she married another guy and realized her mistake. I turned her down. Now she's fucking around on her husband thinking she will find the real Mr. Right by offering up her value and hoping he hangs on. It hasn't happened yet, nor will it.

The girl I wanted in the first place was just an idealized version of the girl I had. She will never be that person - the real-life version will just cheat her way from one guy to the next until she's out of options or kills herself. I could have been attached to her with a marriage, a home, and a kid like her husband. Instead I got off scott-free and can do whatever I want with my life.

[–]bama79rolltide 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have had the oneitis. This would be a poor idea. It isn't easy. You just have to accept that hoes are hoes man.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He might still "love" her, whatever that means, and he might miss the sex, but how could a man possibly trust a woman who that? I would say pump-n-dump her, but he's not strong enough emotionally to dump her. He should wish her well and cut off further contact.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like how nobody defended the possibility that she wasn't fucking a bunch of people. It's just a given. Nobody really thinks that this chick "found herself" or "liberated herself" through the process. Deep down nobody thinks that a chick fucking a bunch of men is in any way a good thing.

[–]feelsbeforereals 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One comment:

Back then she didn't know what was out there, and now she does she knows how great it was what we originally had.

Buddy, AWALT.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I would love love to be like fuck you bitch and move on. But is that just my pride talking?"

No, that is your common sense.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ONEitis, Level 10,000.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you let her back in you should have your head checked for Stupid.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great example of one-itis. This is why it's important for a man to have a few relationships and sexual partners under his belt. Otherwise you end up like this poor schmuck by driving away women with beta tendencies and causing them to seek out their own "eat, prey, love" fantasy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Weak cuckholded men with no self respect do it all the time...are you diffenrent?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless you want to be miserable...no

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No way, he will get hooked on that thing even worse than before.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It would be interesting to see what actually happens.

[–]Kombaiyashii[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is there an update on this?

I couldn't be bothered to read all the comments.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck this hits home, I saw my first love at a concert on sunday. I said hey, and then grabbed my buddy and bailed. Damage was done, rest of the day, I couldn't help but turn my head to look for this completely mediocre, daddy-issues out the arse slut. /u/noblepaladin comment gives me hope that even if I never forget her, going back to her or her coming back to me will never fix anything. I will never masturbate to her again.

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[–]Newbosterone 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"You are the best lover i've ever had" is probably a lie.

Not if you're the only lover she's ever had, which is kind of the point. No rings for sluts.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

But you're speaking as a guy. Guys look for variety, women look for the best possible mate, that's what hypergamy is. A girl rarely leaves a guy to "try new things" (which would be extremely easy for her to do compared to a guy). She wants a better man, and her coming back is basically saying "I tried my luck and failed, so I'll settle for you".

If you're unable to stay with the same person for long, it probably means you're also able to get laid easily, which is not the case for the majority of men. And when you leave one girl to go fuck a few others, you don't come back to the first asking her to take you back. The potential and wants of both sexes are very different, this is why a girl cannot expect to act like a man (being promiscuous) and succeed just like a guy cannot expect to act like a woman (being passive) and succeed.

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[–]myhipsi 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

they crave for cock like men for pussy.

No... no they don't. How many male vs female prostitutes are there, that should answer your question?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't support your point. There aren't many male (hetero) prostitutes because if a woman just wants sex, unlike a man she can easily get it for free.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There aren't many male (hetero) prostitutes because if a woman just wants sex, unlike a man she can easily get it for free.

Exactly. That's why it supports his point. The original statement was

they crave for cock like men for pussy.

If the desire was equal on both sides, than the need/demand for prostitutes wouldnt exist. Supply and demand would be equal on both sides. It isnt. Women are in a position where their supply (desire for sex) is much lower than men's demand (desire for sex). It's a sellers market. Therefore the first statement isnt true.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If the desire was equal on both sides, than the need/demand for prostitutes wouldnt exist.

I don't think that follows, necessarily. I suspect the difference is more that beautiful women are inclined to settle on one man whereas popular men play the field - i.e. 20% of the men are getting 80% of the sex. Women will share a high-status man if they have to.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Which is fine. But it still negates the idea of

they crave for cock like men for pussy.

If most women are willing to limit their sex to the top 20% of men, then you can in no way equate that to mens sex drives. Men literally spend hard earned money for the opportunity to have sex with whores (literal whores, the kind that fuck dozens of men a night, are probably diseased, and are probably strung out). Men do this in huge numbers. The desire for sex in men is WAY higher than in women. That is not to say women dont like sex. But its a whole different game.

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't see any actual evidence to support that conclusion. You can explain the whole dynamic by observing women are willing to share and men aren't. That has nothing to do with sex drive, per se.

Also, there are a whole lot of men out there (maybe most men) who aren't getting any and also refuse to go to prostitutes. Doesn't that argue for diminished male sex drive?

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course they do. Loving sex has nothing to do with my point, because just like a guy won't sleep with an ugly fat chick even if he loves sex, a woman won't volunteer being fucked if the guy isn't high status. The get off being taken by that high status male, and failing to lock him down and having to go back to a beta ex-boyfriend is the equivalent of a guy having to stay with a girlfriend who got fat. It's not just physical stimulation, there is a major psychological component to it.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, Red Pill: women look for the best possible mate from the viewpoint of their genes, not themselves.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not as much as men do, that's why there are so many more female strippers and 90% of whores are female.

It's the sole reason why men are the gatekeepers of commitment and women the gatekeepers of sex.

Next time you go out, look around you. Women dont want sex as much as men, they just dont.

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah because you sound like a passive aggressive fellar.

If you dont know what passive-agressive means, you should not use it in an argument.

that is not attractive.

Being incapable of writing cohesively and arrogance is also unattractive.

i dont fuck every girl that jumps on me neither.

And ? What does that prove.

the girls you are attracted to have more options and you seem not to be a the guy a girl is enjoying herself to be around.

And you would know that how ?

sounds hard. not the end of the world. self-improvement is a journey not something that happens over night. must read for passive aggressive, nice guys and white knights: "no more mr.nice guy".

So because I said that men want sex more than women you from that concluded that I have no luck with women and that you personally need to teach me ?

Talk about a god complex. Keep your horrible advice that sounds like it's written a chimp who has never been educated to yourself.

You're ''welcome''.

[–]nninja 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Of course we all want to have our cake and eat it too. But that's why strong people have discipline and weak people indulge in anything they want. It's one thing to be in an open relationship, it's another to break up because you want to see if the grass is greener on the other side. It's not. The grass is greener where you water it.

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[–]nninja 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes I would eat my favorite dish everyday. Life is not just about the pursuit of pleasure and avoidance of pain. Men need purpose, not just pussy.

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[–]nninja 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To each his own. Name me a great man in the last couple centuries who wasn't monogamous. I'll name you 100 who were.

[–]dvrzero 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Tell my wife that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It may be a lie, but fuck any cunt not welling to tell it.

[–]hamstercide -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Just wondering, if being with this girl long term makes him happy, and presuming she realized she would be happy too after her dumbfuck decision to bail, why shouldn't they get back together if it maximizes their happiness? I mean there is a possibility it might happen again, but maybe after playing the field and getting pumped and dumped she realized she clicked with this guy and she is better off with him.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

She realized he is her best option, but that doesn't mean it will make her happy. Him taking her back would be failing a massive shit test, and she will forever see him as weak and able to be manipulated. What do you think would happen if they get married and have kids? She'll get what she wanted from him, then become unhaaaapy, divorce him, taking the kids and the money away. How is that for a happy ending?

[–]hamstercide 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

unhaaaapy

I see this word a lot on here, and it was the reason for my last break-up, so I thought I'd ask for some insight: why the fuck do women say this and how do they get to this stage, of no longer being "haaaaappy"? What does it mean?

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read Dalrock. He coined the term (if you can call it that) and has written extensively on the discontent women experience in marriage that eventually leads them to file for divorce.

In a nutshell, it refers to the boredom married women start feeling after the kids are born, the house is paid, everything is nice and dandy but they aren't feeling attracted to their husbands anymore. Women in this state will start to nitpick and find excuses for their husband's failings. In the scenario we are discussing here, if the dude is not the clear leader in the relationship (which he can't be if he accepts a "consolation prize" status), sooner or later, the chick is going to want him out of the picture, and we all know what happens then.

[–]mbr902000 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How long was your relationship? You ever go out to eat with her or maybe had to drive somewhere that took a couple hours and really didn't have shit to talk about? Women get a case of the "this is it?" syndrome. If you don't maintain your game and keep her guessing you might as well pack your shit and move on. The OP might have a couple good months if they were to get back together but at some point it becomes the same old shit that they had before (which didn't go so well)

[–]hamstercide 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you don't maintain your game and keep her guessing

Keep her guessing what?

[–]mbr902000 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's important to stay away from being predictable in other words. If she knows what you are going to do day in and day out, she will get bored as shit quickly and her gina will dry up even quicker. Keep her on her toes..

[–]hamstercide 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why though? Why play this constant game and dance? Regularity and order is what humans strive for and what creates the possibility for success (e.g. professionally). If she knows you, and she's a unicorn/the right kind of girl for you, she should love you as a result of knowing you. Why are these women you describe so broken that they check out of even a serious "committed" relationship because they're "bored"?

[–]nninja 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because she's not trustworthy. You're better off finding a good woman that trying to recycle your old garbage, that's still garbage.

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