Who do you talk to?

red-sfpplus · 2019-08-16T21:25:33+00:00

So who do you guys talk to about shit like that?

Myself in the gym.

My Mom.

My BFF's

My Starbucks groups

Anon fags on here.

gameoflibidos · 2019-08-16T21:24:20+00:00

Simple answer here... don't fucking take pre-work out garbage with 400mg of caffine in it especially if you are older unless you really do want to have a heart attack and double especially if you are using gear. You are basically beating your heart with a mace. If you insist on pre work out crap, drink an extra shake before hand and that's good enough.

i-am-the-prize · 2019-08-16T20:54:12+00:00

pwo = pre/post work out ____ ?

you talk to your male friend, who lifts too, so who could relate.

do you have guy friends you can call/txt?

DeplorableRay · 2019-08-16T20:56:36+00:00

Most men here don’t have fathers to rely on, or I would suggest him. I think most men find a place like this because they don’t have other men to rely on. Maybe you found a place here.

Daddy_ThunderCock · 2019-08-16T20:56:10+00:00

Your bros. You got those right? Tell them about your Feelz, certainly not your gf.

You got a daddy, those can be good too. I'm pretty alone concerning getting my Feelz out but I do have a few bros I can dump shit on if I'm really losing it. Usually, I just meditate. Mediation and clearing your mind of thought does wonders. A man who cannot control is mind is not a very strong man.

RStonePT · 2019-08-17T00:54:39+00:00

Don't talk about your panic attacks. When you lift, stop fucking around and stress your CNS, it will mute the panic considerably. Beyond that, there is something setting it off. Be mindful when it happens for what mental feedback loops you've created and learn to normalize it. Instead of starting to panic over something being wrong, accept the panic is natural for whatever the trigger is

Taken together they turn a 10 Into a 2.

Beyond that, keep it to yourself. Your girl don't care, your friends do but can't help.

Edit, just saw you're dosing on dumb shit. Take a guess on how this goes away dumbass

IRunYourRiver · 2019-08-17T02:44:39+00:00

I'm on the "talk to no one" plan. Sure, I talk all day long at work. But never about my fears or my feelz. I used to buy into the "let it all out, dear" philosophy and sought out a good emotional conversation. But, inevitably, those left me feeling thoroughly unsatisfied. I honestly question the whole assumption that we even need a shoulder to cry on. Is that really what you need or are you parroting a shit test (that you failed) from a former girlfriend? I find that beating the shit out of my body on a long hike or crazy hill repeats in inclement weather with a bro is far more therapeutic than searching for the words to express the yearnings of my inner void. Maybe I'm headed for a crash, but so far so good.

NoCoast82 · 2019-08-16T23:23:55+00:00

She gives me a lot of shit

She is going to push the hardest when you are the weakest, because who you are some of the time is who you are all of the time

I understand panic attacks, getting my hormones inline fixed those for me. Then I had pericarditis this spring... basicly persistent heart attack symptoms for weeks. I was smart enough to STFU and go through all the testing without whining to my wife, and she still gives me shit about my "man cold"

I don't know where you are at in the world, my part of the country finding men with similar interests who aren't bitches or sad alcoholics that still act like they are teenagers (and fucking embarrassing with women) is something I have yet to accomplish.

ghb2019 · 2019-08-17T00:07:41+00:00

Suffered with them for years.

Knowing its only a panic attack is key to not letting it snowball into panic disorder, which is what happened me for years as I was convinced it was a heart problem,

Meditation to calm the mind and body,

Stop pre workouts, why do you need it, have a cup of coffee for a boost if your tired,

Supplements to calm the nervous system - Amino acid Glycine, Magnesium, Phosphatadyl serine if anxiety/panic affects your sleep. A good B complex, as deficiencies in B Vitamins can put your body in this state. Adrenal optimizer

If you dont do cardio then add some in as cardio burns off the excess adrenaline that will cause panic attacks,

Look up breathing exercises and distraction methods for if it strikes again

griz3lda · 2019-08-17T04:04:23+00:00

Yo, I used to have frequent ones. It is NOT an anxiety attack, and anyone would be alarmed to feel those symptoms. It's literally a fake heart attack. Wish it were called something else. What's fucked up is it turned out I also had a legit heart condition.

Anyway, the day it all stopped was the day I was like "I don't give a fuck if I drop dead right now! I HOPE I pass out so my autonomic system will self-regulate w/o me goofing it up!" You gotta accept it, don't fight the feelings.

ReddJive · 2019-08-19T03:47:08+00:00

I don’t talk to any one. Not even guys really want to hear your emotional BS. I mean you can but odds are you’re going to get the man up speech in one form or another, so why not just give it to yourself. I work my shit out in the gym. Which is why I don’t get this tribe shit that’s now all the rage. It’s a support group. In a tribe a man has to be a functioning member coming in first...any way I digress.....

Lift Angry. works wonders. I also take it out on a student in the dojo. Being a higher level black belt I decide my training so I can tell a brown belt to suit up and get in the ring.

Any way. Stop PWO. I don’t know why people take that shit. 3 cups of coffee do the same damn thing. Creatine can destroy your kidneys. Glutamine if fine but get a tasty protein shake for that. Who the fuck knows what else is in PWOs these days. It’s not regulated so I would be careful about what it is your taking.

Just tell her that you had a bad reaction to your PWO. Shrug and go...well won’t be doing that again. Laugh it off. Go to bed.

Now....your man up speech. Stop reliving the mistakes of your past and focus on the moments of today. That is really what you are feeling. You saw mortality. Replaying a situation over and over again in your head is not a productive way to live — that's a fucking Boomerang that belongs on some annoying THOT’s Instagram.

Spitoutthebone77 · 2019-08-20T02:38:55+00:00

That sucks man. I have had bouts of various levels of anxiety attacks. Linked with the gym and around large groups of people. I flat out saw someone and they just gave me some tools to help relax the mind and body. All the best brother.

addwater · 2019-08-21T17:27:44+00:00

A psychologist / counsellor / your male friends

WolfofAllStreetz · 2019-08-27T16:55:10+00:00

I get them too. Thanks genetics. Cut the caffeine its horrible for that shit.

Go see a psychiatrist, dont vent to your girl about this shit. You are a man. Act like it.

resolutions316 · 2019-08-16T22:18:27+00:00

Start doing Jiu Jitsu. Make friends.

Imaginary_Historian · 2019-08-16T22:42:54+00:00

You have any brothers or sisters?

I had a panic attack three years ago. I called my brother. He and I aren't that close but he was a lot of help, because I had no idea he had had panic attacks too and had learned how to deal with them. I never had another panic attack.

Typo-MAGAshiv · 2019-08-16T23:31:38+00:00

If you work in a traditionally masculine field, a close co-worker can be ok for thiis.

Recommended fields: non-POG military unit, law enforcement, firefighters, other rescue workers, skilled trades, oil rig work, construction work.

DO NOT CONSIDER IT IF YOU WORK IN ONE OF THESE VAGINIZED PLACES: anything corporate, retail, food service (unless you're a line cook with all men), call center, government administration, etc.

LongRoad_518 · 2019-08-17T00:20:51+00:00

I got my brothers and two close guy friends.

One of my friends is extremely beta, the other is much more alpha. I basically consider what the beta says and do the opposite if he gives any advice. My other friend is great to run stuff through and I can puke at him and he sets me right most of the time.

For instance when a couple of weeks ago wife was going crazy and being a bitch:

Beta Friend: you should just apologize. Happy wife happy life right?

Alpha friend: give her space, ignore her for the most part, leave the house for awhile if it gets to you. Give me a call if you want, we can grab coffee or some shit.

Edit: So I read your full post... panic attacks eh? That shit sucks. You know what sucks even worse? Having them nearly every day for twenty years. SSRIs for twenty years. Having Xanax with me just in case for twenty years. Yeah... that sucks.

Here’s my advice on them: no stimulants, no alcohol, get enough sleep, exercise, lift heavy, read the sidebar, stfu. Seriously, twenty fucking years - since I was 15. 36 now. What cured them was this place. I haven’t had one in probably five months and not a serious one since finding this place (for the two days after I did i was crippled in bed from them - finding your entire world a lie can do that).

[deleted] · 2019-08-17T01:42:07+00:00

Obligatory you're a dumbass. Talk to your dude friends, online or otherwise, about that kind of shit. Your girl doesn't want to hear it.

If she asks about it or brings it up again, just tell her that you took too much caffeine, worked out like a caveman and thought you were having a heart attack. You don't have to frame it like you're working on a mental disorder or some shit like that.

With that having been said, and to provide an example of talking to dudes about shit like this, I've had panic attacks before. My full diagnosis is C-PTSD/complex trauma and developmental trauma, and having a nervous system that's predisposed to overactive anxiety is a part of that. I can count on one hand the number of panic attacks I've had since I hit 20 (I'll be 35 in a few months), but it was a bitch before that because I had no idea (and no guidance) on how to handle it. I'm lucky that I got my shit together on most of that at such a fairly young age because that's pretty much the embodiment of hell if you don't learn how to deal with all of that.

Random fun fact just because I never really get to talk about this shit: People diagnosed with C-PTSD/complex trauma have much higher rates of autoimmune disorders like lupus because the ratios of the types of neurons you have are so different. It literally changes the makeup of how your nervous system grows as you go through childhood and puberty.

Coming off of that tangent, in my experience, the panic attacks were much, much worse before I understood what was happening because I thought I was having a heart attack or something and that I was going to die, and that fed into it and made it worse. It also made me feel like my body/mind were just out of control, and it gave me an odd sense that my body was somehow betraying me.

But thankfully for me, I got that shit sorted out about 15 years ago, and thankfully for you, it's unlikely that you'll run into this anymore unless you try to OD on caffeine like a dipshit again.

thatboyjeff · 2019-08-17T01:49:40+00:00

400mg of caffeine plus a possible niacin flush?

You fuckin idiot.

Don’t tell your girl your feelz. She doesn’t give a fuck, even if she’s your LTR/wife.

BobbyPeru · 2019-08-16T21:57:42+00:00

You shouldn’t need that to motivate yourself to work out... I’ll have 50g protein before and after my workout. Quit being a faggot and relying on that garbage.

As far as panic attacks, I used to have them often when I was a faggot. Once an emergency doc finally figured out they were panic attacks, I haven’t had one since- that was probably 7 years ago. So, just realize it’s not a heart attack unless you keep taking that garbage. Just the knowledge that it was a panic attack helped me to never have one again . I’m not even kidding – I was probably at emergency six times thinking I was having a heart attack before any emergency doctor finally figured that it was a panic attack.

Don’t talk to your woman about your feeeeellings even if she’s the only one available. Find some bro’s even if you have to join some groups. Start doing some research on stoicism and practice it.

Suggested reading - Practical Female Psychology For the Practical Man - in the book, they go into how talking about your feelings to your woman as a stage in the betaization process

I’m sure you’ll downvote this because you are a faggot, and that’s what faggots do instead of looking at the truth (I see you downvoted a bunch on here homo.

Big_Daddy_PDX · 2019-08-17T00:11:10+00:00

Don’t bother talking to anyone until you have a frame and a mission. Your girl just sees you as the faggot you are.

Title	Who do you talk to?
Author	IOwnMyShit
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Date	August 16, 2019 8:44 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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