All girls are bi until proven otherwise?

WestsideMoonWalker · 2018-05-01T02:33:21+00:00

think this mainly due to the fact that as a guy I can admit that we suck at sex. While women have evolved in terms of romance, men are well

wut? Pretty sure that this 100% is variable and is probably pretty much a normal distribution.

Also well.. the female body on average is 10x more beautiful than the average guy's.

Duh, you are a straight guy. Of course you think this. That's literally stating the obvious thought any straight guy has.

1) How can men learn to have better sex (outside of by sleeping around)?

have a lot of sex with one person. Also, be a good listener. Being attentive and understanding a partner's likes and dislikes is a great place to start.

2) What factors are teaching men bad habits?

Stubbornness, not listening, insisting on being right all the time. Same factors that teach anyone bad habits really.

3) As a cis dude who is cool with the LGBTQ community how should they handle a situation where there SO admits they are bi or bi curious

However you want. Depends on who you are dealing with and how they handle things.

4) What do you think of my initial theory?

It's dumb.

ybcurious93 · 2018-05-01T03:27:19+00:00

So as the title says, I think all women/girls are bi until proven otherwise.

Wow, the ignorance is painful here. Who needs to "prove" their sexuality to anyone???

as a guy I can admit that we suck at sex

Speak for yourself. The only "suck at sex" I do is applying my mouth to my partner's happy places.

the female body on average is 10x more beautiful than the average guy's

You're entitle to your OPINION, but don't confuse it with fact.

4) What do you think of my initial theory?

I think you are either a troll or an idiot.

ybcurious93 · 2018-05-01T05:59:21+00:00

People are what their culture tells them to be. In modern day it's been much more accepted for women to be sexually fluid and pop culture has shown this.

However, more recent surveys/polls/studies have shown that younger millennial men are having same sex sexual encounters just as much if not more than young women are. And you can expect this to become even more common as homophobia keeps dying.

Whether women like it or not they will have to eventually come to accept that men are just as sexually fluid as women are.

Male sexual fluidity and how common it is has been seen through out history.

Women hate to acknowledge this. I think women learned a long time ago that who ever needs the other gender the least has the advantage. I think men are barely starting to realize this.

DebatePony · 2018-05-01T13:27:30+00:00

1) How can men learn to have better sex (outside of by sleeping around)?

Practice and communication, don't want to sleep around, do those things with one person.

2) What factors are teaching men bad habits?

Umm, prevalence of porn? Being unwilling to take/accept constructive criticism about their performance? Honestly I don't know, but I don't think it is only men's bad habits that are inhibiting a person's sexual growth.

3) As a cis dude who is cool with the LGBTQ community how should they handle a situation where there SO admits they are bi or bi curious

Be fine with it? But, IMO, just because someone may be bi doesn't mean they get to sleep around. If you signed up for a monogamous relationship, it is supposed to be monogamous. So, I'd be setting solid and firm boundaries about behaviors I find acceptable or not.

4) What do you think of my initial theory?

I'd say it's more of a hypothesis.

sunkindonut149 · 2018-05-01T14:38:16+00:00

Do you get all your information from Pornhub?

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newName543456 · 2018-05-01T09:28:28+00:00

Some say sexuality exists on a spectrum, so that would be a logical conclusion I guess.

Entropy-7 · 2018-05-01T10:55:42+00:00

This was a few decades ago but we had a term: LUG

Lesbian Until Graduation.

Unless you have been to Sex Ed 101, no teenage male has the first clue about what a clitoris is or what to do with it.

1) There are plenty of legitimate guides but it is really difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff.

2) Porn for one. Feminist bullshit for another. There is something in the middle that is lost on this generation.

3) Go on the prowl with them. Or maybe savvy it.

4) We aren't slow, we are just different. I will give it to you that women are pretty but men are ugly, and we have to use our other talents.

Lyanina · 2018-05-01T11:43:23+00:00

I think this mainly due to the fact that the average guy sucks at sex.

Nah. You don't need a bad sexual experience to know you're into women or not.

the female body on average is 10x more beautiful than the average guy's.

I mean, I can see why you think that, but the male body is more sexually attractive to a straight woman or a gay guy than the female body. Obviously.

1) Have sex with the same person repeatedly and you'll get very good at sex with that person. Alternatively, read She Comes First and pay attention to your partner in bed.

2) Porn and just ignorance.

3) If she wants to sleep with a woman and you're not okay with that because monogamy, it's a deal breaker and you should break the deal. If she's just coming out to you because she wants you to know, who cares. My sexual orientation has been a non-issue in my romantic relationships.

4) I think it's flawed but I don't really care. I don't believe there's a way to "prove" your sexuality.

Doom_and-Gloom · 2018-05-01T13:27:05+00:00

1) How can men learn to have better sex (outside of by sleeping around)?

The Internet is your friend. Not to toot my own horn, but I was able to learn and become proficient at cunnilingus just through online research (and I don't mean just watching porn, lol) - would be even better if I had more chances to practice, of course, but oh well.

What a lot of people don't understand is that sex, the act itself, is a skill just like any other - some have a knack for it, most have to learn, and others are just hopeless.

4) What do you think of my initial theory?

I think that if women were as half as great at "romance" as you say, most lesbian relationships wouldn't be completely sexless.

belletaco · 2018-05-01T14:45:23+00:00

No. You can be a straight woman who's can get off to lesbian porn or hook up with a girl without being bi. Women are definitely more open minded when it comes to sex, but sex /= determine your sexual orientation.. attraction does. If you do not feel emotional invested in or attracted to your same gender, you are not bi or gay.

prodigy2throw · 2018-05-01T15:41:13+00:00

Women are more sexually “fluid” because men like it. There is no other reason for this

ybcurious93 · 2018-05-01T02:24:53+00:00

I think most women have the potential to have and enjoy sex with women. I don't believe in "bisexuality" as it's usually described, it's just regular straight women who are horny and open minded.

I don't agree with your reasoning. Women don't turn bi because they have bad sex with a man.

bbyd8g · 2018-05-01T02:29:05+00:00

I think this is scientifically true. There was a study where they hooked up machines that measured sexual arousal to men and women's genitals, while showing them a variety of sexual material. If I remember correctly, the straight guys were only turned on by straight material, the gay guys only by gay material, but the women where turned on by everything.

carefreevermillion · 2018-05-01T02:41:57+00:00

1) Show you can take criticism, and seriously pay attention to when you do things right. Being invested in your partner's orgasm instead of just your own does most of the work for you.

2) Porn.

3) If you're in a monogamous relationship, it doesn't matter. It's like they said "I promise to only wear blue for X duration, but I will admit to enjoying red outside of that".

4) Most women are bad at sex too. So having sex with girls doesn't take the bad sex factor out of the equation.

couldbemage · 2018-05-01T03:01:17+00:00

There is some real science out there saying that female bodied people have a more fluid sexuality. VS male bodied people tending to have a sexuality that is more determined by genetics.

the_calibre_cat · 2018-05-01T07:27:34+00:00

I'm pretty sure all girls are bi, certainly relative to men.

Lolashaulke · 2018-05-01T15:22:48+00:00

Women may be bi curious, but it's beyond a stereotype that you'll find "bi women" who will never sexually interact with another vagina. They're likely willing to kiss/grope another woman, but that's as far as it tends to reach. Your initial theory is fairly bogus.

I disclose to my partners that I'm bi on the first date or pre first date. Don't immediately ask for a threesome. If your partner in a relationship discloses bisexuality, don't feel pressured to allow them to sexually interact with the sex you are not.

I think porn is screwing up a lot of men's abilities in bed. The best guys I've slept with have been bisexual and have been on the receiving end of anal sex. This could just be the individuals I have personally encountered. Being mature enough to have honest dialogue about what you like with your partner (and having a partner mature enough to handle this too) helps everyone.

AstuteBlackMan · 2018-05-01T02:40:50+00:00

Man. Hell nah. I'm a beast in bed. At least I'd like to think so. If you have sex with me twice I'm a 10/10 in bed. So I don't think men suck at sex but to be fair I don't watch other men have sex.

But

1) Guys just need to learn to put in effort in trying to please them. That's really the main idea.

2) Men don't need to give maximum effort in sex as much. Men sometimes just want to get their nut off and sleep.

3)I would either dump them or try to get a threesome tbh. Dumping them would be so they can explore that side of them with no pressure and live their life.

4) Your theory is bullshit. I don't see why someone could claim men are bi until further notice. That's horse shit cause I've never liked penis.

At the end of the day wether you agree or care about their life choice just treat them with respect in general. If they are something you don't want or enjoy then respectfully withdraw.

Title	All girls are bi until proven otherwise?
Author	ybcurious93
Upvotes	0
Comments	97
Date	May 1, 2018 2:22 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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