Q4RPMen: would you be okay with your daughter being in this relationship?

exit_sandman · 2017-05-02T01:48:36+00:00

Aaaaand another bluepiller who didn't get the memo that TRP is about male priorities, not female ones.

foreignergrl · 2017-05-02T05:51:02+00:00

OP, give us a final count of how many yays and nays you get after the thread goes fairly inactive, please, for those of us who can't read the whole thread. You hit the nail in the head in my opinion; this is perhaps the most important question concerning TRP. They say their sexual strategy is amoral; I say it really is immoral, and all the spinning and the lack of responses you're getting here indicate to me that they understand it is immoral; it's not like they're oblivious to it - they just don't give a shit about making the world a horrible place as long as they're getting their dicks wet. So far, I've counted 3 implied NAYS and one hard NAY, but I'd love to see a final score.

Temperfuelmma · 2017-05-02T02:30:39+00:00

I would put alpha boy in the hospital. Does that answer your question?

prodigy2throw · 2017-05-02T02:55:09+00:00

You realize you're kinda describing Bill Clinton right?

Eastuss · 2017-05-02T08:05:12+00:00

If you're RP and you raised your daughter well, this won't happen.

Outside that, she does what she wants, that's her problem if she doesn't have her shit together. Even if your parent fail at educating you there's no reason for you to be a mess.

333i · 2017-05-02T02:03:36+00:00

Why even bother including #1, if you then add #2, #3, #4?

WhiskersNT · 2017-05-02T03:16:46+00:00

do you think that TRP men look favorably on the judgment of women who choose men like that

Pope_Lucious · 2017-05-02T04:55:55+00:00

No i wouldn't want my daughter to date a man under those relationship conditions. But her life is her game to play. If she was in a relationship with those conditions, I would love her all the same. My most cynical hope might be she finds a high value beta blue pill still naive enough to commit to her in marriage.

CoffersWorthington · 2017-05-02T05:36:25+00:00

I will try not to be threatened by my daughter's sexual autonomy. Date who you want.

I would definitely question her judgment on 2 and 5. 3 and 4 seem less likely to come up but would also surely lead to questioning.

DashneDK2 · 2017-05-02T05:58:54+00:00

1) 4) & 5) are ok

2) Nope. Unless they have some kind of hippie arrangement, where they're committed to another girl. But open relationship, no.

3) Not getting married is fine. But if she is to be a quit her job, then it's fair that he'd have some financial obligations in case of a breakup.

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Battle-Scars · 2017-05-02T02:02:17+00:00

number 2 would be a deal breaker for me.

despisedlove2 · 2017-05-02T02:33:41+00:00

The guy is whatever your idea of a perfect alpha male is. (in terms of looks, confidence, status)

The relationship is 1-sided open for the guy but closed for the girl.

He insists on not getting married because of divorce laws. He probably won't pay her anything when they break up despite wanting her to either quit her job completely or seriously limit her working hours because he expects her to do the majority of the housework.

The guy's been around the block a lot of times but considers virginity/low n-count important in women.

Would you be okay with that?

You pose this question to RP men, asking about a man with TRP characteristics, knowing fully well TRP is a minority within RP, and generally looked down upon because of their blind obsession with sex.

May I know what is purpose (beyond the usual puerile game between BP and TRP) here?

reepbot · 2017-05-02T02:59:44+00:00

I think I would have to get over the shock of having a daughter first.

gasparddelanuit · 2017-05-02T10:53:24+00:00

If she was reasonably aware and happy with the relationship and its terms, I would not see a problem. If she was unhappy, I would tell her to end it.

If she was a stay at home wife, I would not be disappointed that she could not divorce rape her husband if things didn’t work out, but, depending on the circumstances, I may believe that she was entitled to some basic level of support for a short period of time to help her transition to providing for herself or making other arrangements. I would not endorse the view that she was entitled to 50% of whatever the man was worth.

badnews4u · 2017-05-02T11:19:55+00:00

you still dont get it i reckon. if a daughter is raised properly and strong, she can look out for herself. if i need to approve anything like this, besides symbolically, i already failed as a father.

Transmigratory · 2017-05-02T11:45:50+00:00

No guy would want their daughter to be with a guy like that, then again no guy really likes his daughter's boyfriends, generally speaking.

Whether the daughter listens is another story (most don't). There's a reason why most guys adopt some/all of the traits your list states... it gets results.

SeemedGood · 2017-05-02T16:00:33+00:00

Of course not. Ideally we want our daughters (and I have a few of them) to partner with a man with whom they are joining as equal partners in our common spiritual journey, who is also a virgin, with the intention of being equally committed to each other alone, and with the joint understanding that each are literally each others soul mates. In which case both my wife and I would suggest that they marry each other spiritually but not legally because the current marriage laws do not support sound spiritual marriages. And if they were to divorce, we would expect that they wouldn't seek to be paid anything other than what she brought into the marriage to begin with because we raise our children with the value system that using government to take productivity from others that they are unwilling to give voluntarily is amoral and unethical.

But...

All that's really up to her, isn't it? As she is the sexual selector, in order for that to happen she has to be conscious enough and have developed enough conscious will to have outgrown solipsism, have recognized the consciousness of others, been able to see that all others are full human beings, been able to understand that all others' souls are beautiful and deserving of love, have developed the capacity to actually love men (for their souls and being as opposed to for their utility to her), be in complete conscious control of her attraction cues, be able and willing to override her dichotomous hypergamy, be able to choose a man with whom to partner based on his spiritual fit with her as opposed to any other characteristic, and be sexually attracted to that man.

And as we are discovering it's an awfully tall order to raise young women to have reached that level of maturity by the time they are ready to have interactions with men. From our observation it only ever happens in some anabaptist religious traditions and other cultures that are somewhat like them (LDS possibly) - and even then it's probably not standard.

Your question suggests both that you are unfamiliar with RP philosophy and that you misunderstand its purpose.

The tenets of RP are not some guide as to what we think creates the idealized man, far from it. And that would be a pointless exercise anyway as most of us aren't seeking to have successful sexual relationships with other men. Rather, TRP philosophy is simply a praxeological study of the choice structures of women in intersexual relations resulting in a template by which men can optimize their outcomes by shaping themsleves to better fit women's actual sexual choice structure.

We don't choose with whom you share your sexual energy, you do - and you collectively shape us with your choices. If you don't like the results of your choice structure that are being reflected to you in the mirror that is RP philosophy, change your choice structure.

breakfasttopiates · 2017-05-02T17:11:30+00:00

I'd be against it but I'm what RP calls a moralfag (despite being less moral and triggered than most of RP so called cynics)

But reverse this situation and this is what the average female wields in power

Fijiwater69 · 2017-05-03T14:07:34+00:00

I'm "red pilled" (likely not reddit mgtow style) and absolutely would not want my daughter dating a man that treated her like a disposable fuck toy. Why would a father ever be okay with the conditions you presented? Open for the guy? Not interested in marriage?

PieceBringer · 2017-05-02T09:34:02+00:00

No! but is he supposed to be RP? The only thing RP about it are 1 and 5 the others are poor strawmen.

Title	Q4RPMen: would you be okay with your daughter being in this relationship?
Author	EliteSpartanRanger
Upvotes	7
Comments	111
Date	May 2, 2017 1:46 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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