For a philosophy about reasserting masculinity, why is TRP such a big pussy when it comes to dissent?

Marowak22 · 2016-08-18T20:48:51+00:00

Read the rules of the subreddit, it says clearly:

TRP's mission is to discuss men's identity, sexual strategy, and options in the context of our current global culture for the benefit of men. Anyone who does not share that goal will be banned the instant we detect them. We are not interested in debating or defending our experiences to those who disagree with the red pill, nor do we want to clog up our threads defending the morality of our choices.

It's not a subreddit for debate, but there's is a subreddit that is for debating and you happen to be posting in it right now.

squidracer · 2016-08-18T21:15:27+00:00

To keep people like you out.. Otherwise sjws will be posting all day long and it'll turn into another bp sub

drok007 · 2016-08-18T20:57:27+00:00

"They are pussies for standing their ground and not dealing with feminine whining."

This makes literally zero sense.

bornredd · 2016-08-18T21:16:50+00:00

Because the TRP subreddit enforces its boundaries. That's not being a pussy, that's keeping things on topic and neat and clean.

If you watch the /new queue in TRP, it gets filled up with all kinds of bullshit. Horrible field reports, questions for asktrp, feminists trying to 'call out the misogynists'. The mods remove them all. It's not just you, snowflake. They do it to everyone, because the main TRP subreddit has a mission, and your crap isn't part of that mission. If it allowed anything, then just like a classroom with no rules, nothing would ever get done.

TRP does indeed open itself up to all of those things off the main subreddit. There's asktrp, mrp, askmrp, becomeaman, ppd, even alttrp. Use the appropriate one, and you don't get mod'd. It's all in the rules, and we're on a message board owned by a private corporation, so "censorship" is kind of a bullshit argument when you're coming into someone else's house. You're welcome to start your own subreddit to whine about TRP all you like - oh wait, there's one of those already too!

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2016-08-18T20:57:17+00:00

thats not what it is. SOME subs are places for debate, some subs are places to commune with a specific worldview. /r/christianity isnt a forum for debate with satanists, neithe ris TRP a forum for debate with non TRP. different spaces serve different purposes

UA_Hammer · 2016-08-18T21:30:04+00:00

Does /r/debatetwox exist?

PemBayliss · 2016-08-18T21:32:17+00:00

r/theredpill's members are trying to help men unplug, and see the world and sexual strategy clearly for what they actually are, without a lot of surface noise from the rest of the culture/society.

They're not there to debate or defend. They're there to render first aid and care to hurting, unhappy, confused men.

prodigy2throw · 2016-08-18T22:01:01+00:00

I feel like you may not have thought this opinion through...

squarehead93 · 2016-08-18T22:37:22+00:00

There is dissent on TRP though. The finer points of many trp ideas are discussed and debated every day. Go on to most any thread and you'll see someone disagreeing or trying to refine someone else's point. What TRP is not is a total democracy. There are certain core tenets of the sub that are generally accepted as true for the sake of preserving a good signal to noise ratio. I don't agree with everything every single EC says and no one's pointing a gun at my head forcing me to do so. I'm free to follow the rules of the sub or leave if I don't like it.

TRP holds that humans and males especially are prone to hierarchies. Not everyone is equal and not everyone has something worth saying. TRP has a clear hierarchy. Endorsed Contributors are members who have the experience to share worthwhile content, so they are flared to indicate their posts are generally worth reading. What might Surprise you is that far from repelling many of us, it what keeps us coming back because the content continues to stay high quality. Regular members such as myself can post, but it had better be worth everyone's time or it's going to get removed. You don't get validation just because you have an internet connection and wrote some words, and that's the way it should be. Not everyone gets to be a pastor in a church and not everyone gets to be a teacher in a classroom.

betterdeadthanbeta · 2016-08-18T23:24:19+00:00

"I got banned waaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" is not a productive way to start a conversation imo. If you think TRP being pussies why do you strive to come off as one? Crying and carrying on.

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SkinnySweaty · 2016-08-18T21:32:53+00:00

The TRP "frame" is all based upon Dominance, and this in turn makes up their self-image and defines their ego. If they are ever in a situation where they are not the dominant one they will move to assert or reassert dominance.

A competitive place is not good for them unless they are assured that they will win, so they need to be certain of that before they play. Serious disagreement, no matter how valid, in their own sub runs up against that ego because if the change is not internally motivated it would mean that their "frame" has been violated and they are not the masters of the moment. Therefore no outside opinions will ever be allowed an honest appraisal.

That would be like a wife making a correction to her husband, saying that he is wrong about something. That shit is never okay.

Red Pill is structurally unable to accept outside criticism in any real way.

ThatGreekLady · 2016-08-18T22:24:25+00:00

I remember one guy who got banned because he asked "isn't saying women are cumdumpsters slightly misogynistic?" That's literally all he said, with the exact language I used. The guy wasn't even a Blue Piller, he was RP.

Sepean · 2016-08-19T06:46:41+00:00

Just not true at all.

For example, I made a post on how women also wanted beta qualities in men, and that financial success was beta. This really triggered a lot of guys who think beta is revolting and that their idea of what a great man is must also be what give women the tingles.

So I get downvoted massively and reported to the mods with a request to ban me. But instead the mod gives me a point.

Why? Because I was right. Thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/4sa3sa/on_dual_sexual_strategy_and_how_financial_success/

I've also argued in favor of LTRs and even marriage in some instances (not as a solution for everyone, but as a realistic and enjoyable option for an alpha man if he doesn't prefer to spin plates). That also gets some people all worked up and has landed me ban requests, but I won't get banned because I approach the subject from an angle of what benefits a man.

There is plenty of room for dissent and conflicting ideas on TRP. It just has to be focused on improving the male sexual strategy. Moral faggotry like the examples you mentioned, that shit is just social scripts designed to curb mens' potential and that should of course be banned. If people want to discuss that sort of stuff, they go to PPD.

gavinok · 2016-08-19T07:45:37+00:00

You sound like the gambler who says a casino is shit because he lost all his money.

I suggest you come up with some sort of argument of why banning people who disagree with you is bad.

AreThereOnions · 2016-08-18T21:23:34+00:00

Red Pillers are very emotionally fragile. They pretend to be masculine to attract women but they really aren't.

HorusAeon · 2016-08-18T22:41:07+00:00

new or different ideas/opinions/facts are dangerous for every ideology. They're like North Korea at this point.

play_time_is_over · 2016-08-19T01:15:59+00:00

I posted a very relevant post about hiw to get pussy in your 20's.

The post got 100+ upvotes then it was removed. R/theredpill is a cult that does not accept differing or eveolving opinions.

The mods and endorsed contributors are always 100% benevolent and everyone else is wrong.

Trp is olpretty trash these days.

Title	For a philosophy about reasserting masculinity, why is TRP such a big pussy when it comes to dissent?
Author	KushTheKitten
Upvotes	13
Comments	63
Date	August 18, 2016 8:39 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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