Q4BP: Do you deny that any woman has a fantasy of overpowering, forced sex, or rape fantasies?

midnightvulpine · 2016-04-05T10:32:34+00:00

Yes, some women have those types of fantasies and fetishes.

The thing is, blindly shooting for anyone's unexpressed fetish is always dangerous. Because it might not be there. I generally agree with the linked comment. Unless you have a direct understanding with someone, you take responsibility into your hands making a guess as to whether or not pushing past 'soft nos' will be well received in the moment and in the aftermath.

Not to mention, some women are gentle in temperament and/or voice. Just because they don't violently or loudly say no doesn't mean they don't mean it.

wombatinaburrow · 2016-04-05T05:30:35+00:00

Sure; some women do. Some also have fantasies about sex with animals.

questioningwoman · 2016-04-05T06:41:25+00:00

If they want it, it's not technically rape. Rape would be sex they would never consent to. In the fantasy they're mentally consenting.

wazzup987 · 2016-04-05T05:50:00+00:00

SOME women sure. soem women not so much. a lot women also have the fantasy of tender loving, a lot women like to be on top or be dominant. It really depends.

though for CNC negotiate your consent via email. just look what happen to gian gomeshi with out his his emails being save he never could have proved he was innocent and they the women that accused him lied. Be thorough be safe have safe word and dont do anything i have had done to me, that shit technically violates like 3 or 4 geniva conventions and a couple UN human rights charters ;-0.

But it does make great pick up line 'how would you like to violate my human rights with me to night?' ;-p it works quiet often :-D

TheChemist158 · 2016-04-05T05:35:07+00:00

My question is, do you believe some women have forced sex/rape fantasies, be they with particular men? Or do you believe a woman saying NO is an absolute, uncrossable barrier?

I don't think those things are mutually exclusive. Of course some women have rape fantasies. Of course some women want to be dominated. But that doesn't mean you get to decide to ignore her protests. Even with domination and rape fantasies, consent is important. Having a good and clear communication is even more important in such cases.

ozymandias271 · 2016-04-05T14:32:14+00:00

I think that women have rape fantasies and that a woman saying "no" is an absolute uncrossable barrier (unless you have mutually decided that "no" doesn't mean no anymore and "safeword" means no now).

Don't do rape fantasies without talking about them first!

[deleted] · 2016-04-06T04:43:06+00:00

Sure they do. But fantasies are wonderful because you control every element. Maybe they want to be pinned down, but anal? No way. So anal won't be in their fantasy. Unless they like pain. Who knows. But fantasies you control everything.

In my relationship we use safe words.

BiggerDthanYou · 2016-04-05T08:59:11+00:00

I'm simply denying that it's true for all women and am thinking that it's dangerous to tell the guys on TRP that women in general want it.

RPers come to TRP because they've got some problems understanding women and many can't even figure out body language, tone of voice or what she actually means when she says something.

If you tell those guys that all women secretly have rape fantasies and that "no" or any sign of resistance actually means yes, well this will lead to rape cases.

Some women do like it, but you've got to be careful about it. I simply don't do anything rapey unless she explicitly tells me to. If she's into it she will tell you about it, but trying stuff like that on random women is dangerous and harmful.

Or do you believe a woman saying NO is an absolute, uncrossable barrier?

"no" followed by a small laugh and flirty body language can be ignored if you are sure that she's only teasing you, but "NO" should never be ignored.

Communication is the key. Just talk to her about your kinks and ask her what she's into and what her boundaries are. Me and my girl knows that a "no" isn't serious, but we've introduced a safe word ("I need to go to the toilet") for that.

If you don't have a safe word how do you know if she's being serious or not?

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cravenravens · 2016-04-05T19:30:38+00:00

I know I have rape fantasies, but they're just fantasies. I only ever say no when I really don't want to. The other party ignoring my no makes me terrified, not horny.

-sybarite- · 2016-04-05T19:31:43+00:00

Not BP nor RP, but I like MDMA.

Women often have such fantasies, not all of them, but quite a lot.

Doesn't mean that rape is justified, though. I've fantasied about murdering people, but never actually acted on them yet.

DrunkGirl69 · 2016-04-06T00:46:03+00:00

I definitely have those.

artichokess · 2016-04-06T09:17:01+00:00

some do, some don't. some people might love it if strangers come up to them and punch them in the face. maybe even half the population loves it when strangers come up and punch them in the face. nonetheless, don't go around punching people in the face, hoping that the odds are in your favor.

nemma88 · 2016-04-06T10:13:43+00:00

My question is, do you believe some women have forced sex/rape fantasies, be they with particular men.

Yes

Or do you believe a woman saying NO is an absolute, uncrossable barrier?

This must be a inclusive use of the word 'or' as it's entirely possible to believe both. No is a barrier, for people who want to say no but mean yes there are convenient safe avenues to pursue in the kink community.

For people who don't take these and expect to be able to say no without the other thinking they might actually mean no, then well there is no accounting for stupidity. It's unwise to try and build cases based on the actions of the idiotic few. 'She might have meant yes when she said no!' Is a PPD (Piss Poor Defense).

funobtainium · 2016-04-08T00:08:17+00:00

Some people might, but I don't and a lot of women I know don't, either.

That's why a lot of us laughed really hard at 50 Shades of Grey.

shogunofsarcasm · 2016-04-05T15:56:44+00:00

Of course some women do. I am sure some men do as well. Lots of people have different fetishes. Why is this a question?

GridReXX · 2016-04-05T15:57:09+00:00

I've never had a rape fantasy in my life.

I do like being manhandled during sex.

But whenever I envision this I envision me with a sly smirk, not a "HALP IM BEING RAPED" terrified disposition.

So I deny.

[deleted] · 2016-04-05T07:14:25+00:00

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Title	Q4BP: Do you deny that any woman has a fantasy of overpowering, forced sex, or rape fantasies?
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Date	April 5, 2016 5:28 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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