Q4BP and Women: Why do so many women assume that men do things like dress smartly and work out to impress women?

DrunkGirl69 · 2016-02-26T19:17:35+00:00

The first I ever heard of men's motivation and drive really only coming from a desire to have sex with women was from red pillers, so I would ask them.

GridReXX · 2016-02-26T19:23:52+00:00

I'm sure I've read here opinions such as

Ironically it's always men who infer that to me, not women.

I give men the benefit of the doubt and say, "No way, they're motivated without women."

And then a man comes along to set me straight, "nah, it's all for the pussy."

[deleted] · 2016-02-26T19:12:53+00:00

Do women actually assume that or do you think they do?

TheChemist158 · 2016-02-26T19:48:26+00:00

I'm sure I've read here opinions such as, "if men didn't have the pressure to succeed with women and in general, they wouldn't bother doing anything and would just sit on their fat smelly asses all day playing vidya games. The economy would grind to a halt and our gene pool for future offspring would become very shitty, which is detrimental to humanity's survival. Therefore our (female) hypergamy is good, keeps you from getting complacent."

That's usually said by the reds though.

CuddleLumpkin · 2016-02-26T19:49:29+00:00

I don't think they do, which is why the joke exists when you see a fashionable and cut guy that he is possibly gay.

SpaceWhiskey · 2016-02-26T23:13:22+00:00

According to TRP the only reason men do anything is to get laid.

I personally disagree. Men take care of themselves for the same reasons women do. Because it's professionally expected of them. Because they like the way it looks. Because society is kinder as a whole to attractive people.

cookiebootz · 2016-02-26T21:15:10+00:00

This isn't an assumption I consciously hold and I hope I don't unconsciously convey it in the way I interact with people...but I'd guess it stems from the idea that men are constantly thinking about sex and will do anything to get it. There's a lot of people who propagate that. Most people who I can remember having explicitly said this to me have been men.

gopher_glitz · 2016-02-27T02:16:23+00:00

I will whole heartedly admit most things I do are to not repulse women. Otherwise I would probably only own sweatpants etc.

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wtknight · 2016-02-26T19:38:38+00:00

I know that I made a lot more effort looking good when I was searching for a mate. Now that I have one, I still make sure to eat a generally healthy diet and exercise somewhat regularly, but I don't think I put the same amount of effort in as I did before. What I do now is mostly for health reasons, although keeping my wife's attraction is also important. Sex is a great motivator and, while health and money are also very important to men, I think that they usually fall behind the #1 reason that men try to improve their external appearance.

EIliot_Rodger · 2016-02-26T19:47:02+00:00

Those things are integral to success with women, and that success demonstrates social value which you can drag into other endeavors - essentially, marking your spot on the social hierarchy.

Transmigratory · 2016-02-26T19:54:57+00:00

It might have to do with the fact that men see women are clearly impressed with men who workout and dress well.

MorpheusGodOfDreams · 2016-02-27T04:04:09+00:00

It is obvious that men who are not in prison work out to impress women. Working out builds muscle and makes a man look more attractive to women and threatening to men. Men may sometimes hamster this as "doing it for myself" or some other crap, but we really mean that we want to get laid more often. However the majority of men understand this, and will openly admit to it.

Women wear makeup to compete with rivals over male attention. We've all heard women hamster about how they wear makeup and skimpy clothes "just for themselves," or "self confidence," but this is clearly bullshit because she could just stay home and look at herself in the mirror.

She does it to go out and have people look at her, both men and women. Her self confidence is based on other people's reactions to her. The incredible difference in honesty between men and women comes up here. Women will never admit to these simple realities, and find all sorts of excuses.

So what happens when a society begins to break down in the relationships between men and women? The women get fat, get tattoos, piercings, and blue hair. The men stop caring and withdraw to play video games and masturbate. This begins to have a major impact on the economy because they both have literally nothing to live for.

Society is based on beta males having the incentive to get a wife for consistent sex, this is how his labor is obtained by the wealthy and how it has been since the agricultural age. Now we have fat bitches with terrible attitudes and cats on depression medication, and lazy chubby dudes with no ambition or drive to do anything.

All of this comes from a breakdown in gender roles. When capitalist bankers learned that they could tax women's income through the IRS, they funded the early stages of feminism, and even experimented with Gloria Steinem's extremist version to break up black families. This is now being used on a grand scale, leading to a severe drop in fertility rates and a population of betas that are literally terrified of being called a misogynist, killing any potential attraction. Divorce rates and single motherhood are at an all time high, and still going.

Politicians are now terrified that the low fertility rates will have long term effects on tax revenue and services like social security, so they are importing brown religious people who they hope will have lots of kids that will eventually assimilate into the culture. These people are being used to divide and conquer the native population because they are dependent on public government services that are outsourced to profitable businesses. Because of this, they tend to vote for more liberal parties, shutting down any concern or dissent as "racist."

This is how western civilization dies, not with a bang but with a whimper.

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ianturpiesmoustache · 2016-02-26T19:39:52+00:00

Probably the same answers you'll see in the make up thread - some don't bother at all, and the rest have varied and personal reasons depending on which dude you ask.

ozymandias271 · 2016-02-26T20:05:08+00:00

I think men work out and dress up for their own sake all the time. I mean, do you really think any woman is going "ugh, that guy's traps are a little asymmetrical, 0/10 wouldn't bang"?

Xemnas81 · 2016-02-26T21:49:51+00:00

I never thought men do that to please women. I think every human being has the right to do things to feel better about himself/herself.

shoup88 · 2016-02-26T22:28:10+00:00

I've never heard women say that men only dress smart and work out to impress women. I have heard some men in this subreddit say things along those lines.

This is not the flip side to the makeup thread. Makeup thread said "why do women do this?" and then gave two conflicting sample responses. This post is leading and not reflective of reality.

Title	Q4BP and Women: Why do so many women assume that men do things like dress smartly and work out to impress women?
Author	Xemnas81
Upvotes	3
Comments	85
Date	February 26, 2016 7:09 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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