When the red pill doesn't work either

relationshipdownvote · 2016-01-08T18:25:16+00:00

Dude, you didn't read TRP or you would have seen the word

LIFT

grendalor · 2016-01-08T18:04:20+00:00

If being nice to girls doesn't work but being mean to girls doesn't work either

Heh, the red pill isn't about being mean to girls.

Getting in shape, lifting weights, eating better, grooming better, acquiring interests and hobbies, pursuing a career, getting your financial house in order and becoming more social and charming don't involve being mean to women. Playfully teasing women doesn't involve being mean (it's just normal flirtation). Having casual sex with women, if that's what you want, isn't being mean to women, either (TRP's plate spinners always suggest being up front with the "plates", and not leading them on). And plenty of red pillers don't pursue casual, anyway.

You may not have really done the red pill, perhaps, in terms of the entire package of self-improvement, and just tried to run some game routines?

PemBayliss · 2016-01-08T18:06:06+00:00

I'm gonna assume this is a good faith post, though I question it because of this

but being mean to girls doesn't work either,

You need to read the TRP sidebar. No one tells you that being mean to girls makes girls want to fuck you.

I suppose 1) through 3) are OK if that's your thing, and maybe 5) too. I wouldn't recommend 4, 6 or 7. Committing felonies is a bad sexual strategy, mostly because you can't fuck girls from prison unless you're Ted Bundy or Charles Manson. I wouldn't recommend 8 either, because being dead is also a bad sexual strategy.

Startled_Butterfly · 2016-01-08T18:08:08+00:00

Lol I hope you didn't read TRP and then glean from it that you should run around calling girls ugly or something, hoping they'd sleep with you.

PoopInMyBottom · 2016-01-08T18:28:23+00:00

Join every partner-dancing class in your city, and grind out learning how to socialise, 1-on-1, with women.

Seriously, this is going to be a lot more effective than superficially adopting TRP behaviours. Socialising is complicated, you only get better by doing it. TRP is a set of very basic heuristics for how to behave that give you a sense of "I know how the world works!" If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it.

Girls have evolved to suss out how attractive you are as a prospect within seconds. They can figure out when you are putting it on. If you are pretending to be confident, they will get creepy vibes. That's one of the functions of creepy vibes - it's a response to incongruence. Adopting RP behaviours will increase those vibes.

Socialising is hard, and it takes practice. The reason we have such large brains is basically to cope with how complicated it is.

GuitarsAreGettingOld · 2016-01-08T19:45:06+00:00

So, what happens when the red pill doesn't work either? If being nice to girls doesn't work but being mean to girls doesn't work either, then what are you supposed to do?

This isn't red pill. Red pill is: "Be attractive, don't be unattractive."

If the red pill doesn't work for somebody, there is only (emphasis only) one explanation: You are unattractive.

So don't waste time thinking about whether it works or not.

You either decide to become attractive or you don't.

bromance946 · 2016-01-08T18:21:28+00:00

Why didn't it work?

belletaco · 2016-01-08T18:35:24+00:00

Sluthate.com? Jeeeeeeeeeeesus. Also I can't take you seriously for thinking sexual frustration > the gun violence our country has seen.

wtknight · 2016-01-08T18:06:14+00:00

9) Self-improvement without TRP's disrespect for women.

caesarfecit · 2016-01-08T18:37:41+00:00

This is an interesting point - the link between sexual frustration and indiscriminate violence in socially isolated young men.

I mean, look at the Sandy Hook guy, the Aurora shooter, and the Virginia Tech shooter, and even the Columbine guys. These are all guys who would have been up shit creek trying to get laid/find social acceptance. The Virginia Tech guy in particular is a perfect example, as he was basically an outcast on campus and he knew it.

Now there's the obvious caveat that in all of these cases, the perps all showed signs of serious mental illness, but that's a bit of a chicken-egg problem as we don't know what came first, and what are the symptoms and what is the cause.

But consider this - there are lots of mentally ill women who get laid and find their way into relationships. They may not be terribly successful or healthy relationships, but they can at least find some measure of sexual success so long as they're basically not a crackhead on the street or a disgusting hosebeast. Think Sharon Stone's character in Casino - obvious signs of serious mental illness, but in the relationship front, she still hit it big.

For a guy on the other hand... getting laid is an uphill battle when you've got a few screws loose, and very often you'll be a social outcast as well, making things even worse. Which is why some of them find their way into outlaw scenes like drugs and gangs, and some shoot up schools.

pleurocarp · 2016-01-08T18:04:18+00:00

Be patient. Save up your money. There will probably be hot sexbots being sold in a few years.

lbspredh · 2016-01-08T18:23:48+00:00

you could always go gay?

betterdeadthanbeta · 2016-01-08T18:34:32+00:00

5 and up seems like the way to go.

rhettdu · 2016-01-08T18:34:44+00:00

tinder

smokingmonkey420 · 2016-01-08T19:16:24+00:00

Stop caring. Invest your time in yourself and your own activities and go on with your life.

CisWhiteMaelstrom · 2016-01-08T19:20:17+00:00

Definitely six.

despisedlove2 · 2016-01-08T19:37:34+00:00

9). Do your work, and focus on your mission, and let life sort itself out.

pandapplexo · 2016-01-08T19:56:31+00:00

Deal with any underlying mental health concerns that may be stifling your comfort levels when interacting with people.
Commit to being an ethical person and maintain your beliefs and core values rigidly.
Commit to discovering the interests and pastimes that you derive authentic happiness from.
Learn to really like yourself and adopt a mindset that anyone befriending you/falling for you is a lucky person.
Be appreciative but never supplicating.

Title	When the red pill doesn't work either
Author	pottersmix
Upvotes	1
Comments	39
Date	January 8, 2016 6:00 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/40279d/when_the_red_pill_doesnt_work_either/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/when-the-red-pill-doesnt-work-either.277136 https://theredarchive.com/post/277136

Comments