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Blindsided breakup. Should have seen it coming.

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January 17, 2015
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Title Blindsided breakup. Should have seen it coming.
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Date January 17, 2015 8:16 PM UTC
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[–]Angry_Landwhale64 points65 points66 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You'll be fine man. Usually they won't mention there's another guy even though most often there is. Asking her if he was more intelligent and better looking only fed her ego, try to avoid that in the future. It's hard to navigate these situations because they've usually already moved on, whereas you weren't even thinking outside the relationship. Try to keep that in mind.

As far as what to do. Just detach yourself as best you can, it will be hard. If she starts texting dumb shit like "I miss us", you need to ignore it and realize she does not. She wants you to validate her and know that you are still pining for her. Don't act hostile towards her and don't act friendly. No emotion at all. If you try to make her jealous by saying you've been doing this or doing that, she'll see through it. Don't do that. You're on your own here you don't have anything between you anymore. It's gone, be sad if you want but that's for you to know, don't let her see any weakness anymore. Good luck.

[–]synadmin 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is awesome advise OP, listen to it. I just want to add on to it, to really drive the point home.

She has moved on. Anything she says to you from here on out is for validation (to make herself feel better). You can do your best to not give her any validation (no response/no contact is usually the best way) but the truth is it doesn't matter what you do. All you have control of is your emotions. Nothing you can say will make her feel bad about what she has done. There is no emotional justice. Perhaps you can take solace in the fact that she has to go on living her life as herself and you get to rebuild as a Red Pill Man.

Welcome to the community. Make sure you read everything on the sidebar, read the top posts of all time, and then reread everything on the sidebar.

[–]the99percent1 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would like to add to this line of thought.. OP you have a life long commitment to self improvement. You can go far. So what if the girl branch swinged. She can be replaced, you on the other hand, the sky is your limit. Take what you need to learn from this experience, discard the rest (emotional bullshit). Push yourself to achieve the best you can everyday and become more alpha.

In 20 years time, You may look back and compare your life to where the life of your ex is. Revel in it.

[–]jhthm 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Change your number and block her FB. Cut off any temptation.

[–]auepoch1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Looking back, this is solid advice.

[–]Newdist2 25 points26 points27 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Is there advice I should take if she tries to get in contact me again or crawls back after realizing she made a mistake?

If you take her back, you are the beta bux.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is there advice I should take if she tries to get in contact me again or crawls back after realizing she made a mistake?

Trial period of polygamy... in which you can see other girls but she sticks with you (she's had her fun after all). The trial period of course never ends....

[–]TA_2985_A6E1_9FC3 8 points8 points8 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

IOW ... she's a permanent plate

[–]ohircyou3 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seriously not even a main plate.

[–]Heyimtitel 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What I learned from my experience is that if she does it once there are some good chances she will do it again. If she will come back to you, she will still be having those "problems" with you. There are plenty of fish in the sea, take this break up as a gift. She offered you freedom. Use it.

[–]auepoch1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I guess some opportunities aren't really there until we realize they are. Thanks for the insight.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 45 points46 points47 points 11 years ago* (21 children) | Copy Link

RP shock therapy:

When girls say "I need space", you need to understand that means "I'm kinda fucking another guy now" and act accordingly.

When they unilaterally break things off with you, you need to understand that all your "I-love-yous" and tender moments have already been OVERWRITTEN in her mind by new experiences with new guys. It's not that it wasn't real and she was faking it. It's just that she's now experiencing the same shit with a different dude who is not you. You don't exist, for now, until such time as for SOME REASON you appear attractive to her again. Easiest way to accomplish that is jealousy.

No need to kid yourself man, when she completely walks on you like that, it is always your fault. You were a blue pill faggot, like most of us here, and you put her right off. This wasn't any specific thing, more likely it took place over months. Yeah, you never noticed - you were "blindsided", that's what every guy says. You can't read your woman properly because nobody taught you how.


What an RP aware man does when he is dumped:

Immediately cut all contact with her, delete from FB, email etc. Never ask why. Never harass her to "talk about it". You completely fucking disappear off the face of the earth, without a word said, and you stop following her or tracking any info about her completely.

Within a few days or weeks, PING! You get a message from her, "hey I was getting coffee and saw our waiter that we always laughed about there... how are you, I miss u.." Or some bullshit like that. "I looked up at the sky and a cloud reminded me of u...". Now, as a blue pill faggot, you just don't know what to make of it, what does she want? It's such a mystery!!! But wait how did that guy from the RP sub know this exact thing would happen and even about the cloud?

She is doing recon. If you disappeared off her radar (as recommended), she now wants to know that you're still out there, hurting and pining for her like a good boy. If you aren't, then HOW VERY DARE YOU. Guess what, if you want you can even respond and act cheery, like nothing ever happened, implicitly let her know that's exactly where you are. In Yeah You Left And I Don't Give A Fuck land. Ask her how she's doing, practice Asshole Game that you can learn here, invite her over and fuck her brains out. Then kick her sneaky ass out of your place like a whore, and watch the sunset/sunrise/Star Trek reruns with a huge smile on your face. Your first true plate, already spinning herself up for you... It's good to be the King.

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This. Everything. I wish I had had this when I started on my journey years ago.

OP, go completely no contact and understand that she wants validation from you.

[–]WriteFromTheHeart 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

OP, listen to this Mother Fucker right here. This is spot on, red pill, tried and true advice. Do exactly as he says, and it will almost assuredly turn out like he says.

Don't contact her. Repeat: don't contact her. She will miss you if you're gone, but that's not your concern because you're out self I proving and fucking other women.

Another thing, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES take advice from other women about this. They'll tell you some gay shit like "you need to fight for her and show her you care." Bullshit. She knows you care, but she's got the feels for someone else now. If your off in IDGAF land fucking other women, she will be wondering about you and questioning her decisions, but again, you don't care because you're self improving.

Being that this was your longest relationship, this is gonna hurt worse than anything, but push through. If you feel like crying, go somewhere alone and cry. Get your Ass to the gym. Hit on chicks, lots of them. Fuck them. Be aactive, be busy, be with and talk to other women, and use this as fuel to become the man you want to be.

Women fall in love quick, and they fall out of love quick. They are by far the coldest creatures on earth, but you will only be better for this. You will self improve and in a year or two from now you'll be glad.

Also, Heartiste recommends the easiest way to get over a oneitis is to get someone hotter. Let that be your goal, because it's awfully fuckinb hard to feel bad about a 6.5 when you have a nice fat ass in your face from a solid 8.

You're gonna be fine brah, come here anytime you need solid reading material and encouragement.

[–]Brontosaurus_Bukkake 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

A fellow ass man. Day one on this sub and I already feel at home. Wish I knew this place during the entirety of my first relationship and subsequent breakup. I don't give a shit about the hate this place gets on reddit, the advice I'm seeing here is everything I wish someone had told me at the time. Even the disagreeing advice is still handled properly with actual debate with common respect unlike the majority of this reddit. Then again I never was a fan of most of the posts I see on the main subs where it feels like a bunch of people patting each other on the back saying it's ok it's not your fault etc just promoting complacency.

[–]WriteFromTheHeart 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good. This sub is about men helping men improve their lives by telling them the truth, nothing more.

[–]Brontosaurus_Bukkake 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly what men need. I feel like MRA gets a bit whiny at times, and if that works for them that's their life, but to me the blunt honesty here has really resonated with me. We're constantly being told what to do, how to act, and what to think by media, entertainment, and politicians with motives that go against not only our best interest but against the traits we have evolved to survive in the world. I'm really happy I subscribed here.

edit: weird autocorrect changed only to kinky...

[–]auepoch 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

'Blindsided' was probably a self cop out. I was way more BP/lazy when we started dating, thinking it would never happen to me.

Generally she's a good girl and when I met her, after we started getting to knowing each other better, she asked me if I wanted to be committed. I kind of skirted the topic and as soon as she directly asked me, she added that it would be okay if I wanted to see other girls because she'd stay loyal to me. Like a semi-retarded beta I said no it should be an equal relationship.

 

It wasn't really what I was looking for at the time, but without being familiar with BP society I thought that was best. It's kind of numbing that she'd pick someone else while not having even kissed a guy before me. What's more fucked is her wording explaining herself in the messages after she said she had made a mistake and couldn't be without me. She used "I feel so bad for leaving you like this." I would think that even if she was genuinely apologetic, she would say having left, as though to say it's not an active thing that's still going on. Again like my other reply, I know she didn't fuck this guy because he's away. I feel like it could potentially be my fault for not being there as much physically but I think it's a guilty intrinsic feelings. She wouldn't have bounced in the first place if she was loyal.

I've read most all of the comments here and feel a little better but still shitty. I've been working on keeping myself occupied with other things, and getting a gym membership soon. I thought she was a unicorn but it seems like I was deceived.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Bro, you were decieved but not by the girl. The main deception you face is from everyone who told you there are going to be unicorns. She's actually being truthful by acting like this, AWALT. When this sinks in, you'll feel a heck of a lot better - it isn't about you the unique individual at all.

It's not your fault for "not being there" enough or any of that, it's the way you are that put her off (and will put all women off going forward). It's hard to describe in a few words exactly what's wrong, so we've got superficial labels like "Blue Pill" behavior, or "Red PIll" behavior. It's about acting like a man around her, and it isn't innate for most people, you gotta learn it and make it a second nature.

From the point of view of some guy who "gets it" and can evaluate you the way a woman would automatically evaluate you, you're currently crippled and deformed. The priorities are all set wrong, you're feminine in the way you focus in on your feeling, you treat the woman like she's your equal... and many other things... all of which you can fix, and rock their world going forward. That's what I meant by "it's your fault", not that you were bad, but that it's your own doing that she turns away and you don't know it.

Btw, don't worry too much about this particular woman - it's not as if after betraying you, she's going to latch onto this new guy and be ever faithful to him going forward. It does not work like that. History will repeat itself, she's going to betray him in the exact same way, probably in even shorter order than what happened with you. She doesn't "love him for him" or because he's objectively better than you, it's nothing like that. She's responding to "feels" that he coincidentally is triggering at the moment. Same feels that you used to trigger, and it's no big deal. If for some reason you appear attractive again in her eyes in a few months time or whatever, it's entirely possible that you'll start triggering those feels in her once more. Your inner self and inner world may be mighty upset because it's fairly used to being petted and fed by her hand ("how can a person who loves us be bad to us like that?how?how?? we used to be her everything, now she doesn't care, did she lie and trick us??"), but that inner world plays no part in all this, it's not important for the game the sexes play out in the tangible world.

[–]auepoch1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Do you recommend some specific further reading?

[–]no_face 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not having even kissed a guy before me

...

I know she didn't fuck this guy

Oh, you poor gullible bastard

[–]redcamouflage 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

No need to kid yourself man, when she completely walks on you like that, it is always your fault

What the fuck are you talking about? Hypergamy is personally OP's fault?

Women do not bond with men over time, like we do with them. Their attraction hits its peak in the first few months and only ever dwindles from there. This is well documented neurological fact. Nothing but a baby will prolong the fleeting window of loyalty a woman is capable of possessing.

After a certain point the new guy doesn't even need to be an upgrade any more. Her lizard brain has become convinced that you are barren and is just waiting for the first tingle that comes along to jump ship. Suddenly every other shark in the pool has the tremendous advantage of novelty on his side.

If you're going to get into a LTR in this age of birth control and unchecked hypergamy then you should really consider what you're getting yourself into. You have ZERO power to keep her and yet you are likely passing up sex with other women while you rationalize that she will reciprocate the sacrifice somewhere down the line when a guy that's actually attractive to her offers her sex or commitment. She will not, ever. You are signing yourself to a one-sided contract aka a scam.

I know its very redpill thinking to look at a dumping as a result of personal shortcomings and I'm not trying to negate that. Theres always room for improvement. But at the same time in the grand scheme of things your improvement is never enough, and that's an even bitterer pill that needs to be swallowed as well.

[–]long-lostfriend 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women do not bond with men over time, like we do with them. Their attraction hits its peak in the first few months and only ever dwindles from there.

Bullshit. You just have to realize that you can't be complacent about things. Attraction has to be maintained, and that ball is largely in your court.

[–]cariboo_j 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Got links to studies? Genuinely curious about this.

[–]Jigsus 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women do not bond with men over time, like we do with them. Their attraction hits its peak in the first few months and only ever dwindles from there.

There is some truth in there but it's not necessarily the absolute one. Women make up their minds in the first few months. Then it might dwindle but only in certain conditions. You can freeze it. You can hold it. You can even make it spike (through jealousy mostly).

Eddie Murphy describes it perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn5HZKgZl7Y

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[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Women want to be used for sex. But they demand it must be with the right kind of emotionally dark asshole (because that is challenging prey to a woman), or else she's out of there of course. That's the dynamic that can easily happen if you effect an "RP transformation" inside yourself during a break up, then she comes back doing the usual probing they do, and now she "can't believe you're the same person, you changed", then before you know it you two are hatefucking like rabbits.

That's the shape of things to come, in theory. In practice what you wanna do is avoid that topic completely, don't make yourself sound like a male version of a slut, too eager to give it away. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment, women are the gatekeepers of sex. Take the sex as the absolute minimum prerequisite for her getting to enjoy spending time with you, getting emotional validation from you, listening to her etc. Commitment talk happens only when she brings it up, and at that point yeah, you'd be blunt with it: "you're adorable and I enjoy what we have but I'm not in the right place for anything exclusive. Fuckbuddies is cool though, and who needs those bullshit labels and the drama anyway? You only live once. Now come give me a kiss sugartits"

[–]3dollarsfiftycents2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

i had a beta melt down n kinda messed this up for myself. guess sometimes you have to take an L (not like i had a real choice in the matter). if she leaves for someone else i dont think id be able to mentally get over the whole betrayal/disrespect/lying aspect thing anyway.

[–]ManOfGrapes 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For a recently unplugged, it's often easy to forget that a woman's promiscuity is quite similar to a man's commitment -- it is the ultimate tool in a man's arsenal against the feminine imperative.

[–]long-lostfriend 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you think you are going to be in this position soon, why don't you be pre-emptive about it and end it yourself? It will be a good experience for you.

[–]OCinMD 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

THANK YOU so much for this post.

I am currently going through a breakup right now and needed this, but different situation.

[–]JahRussian 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Be very thankful for this breakup. Feel the pain. Don't mask it with junk food and drugs. The more pain you feel (through jealousy, anger, confusion, etc), the more fucking solid you'll become. Try to feel more pain whenever possible. Do not avoid the pain. Feel the pain. I went through the same exact thing 3 months ago. She left me for another dude, started fucking him immediately. Unbelievably painful, but I realized that pain is weakness leaving the body, and actually MADE A POINT to quit all drug use. I've been off weed and alcohol since, I don't even use it occasionally anymore. And something funny is happening: as I'm getting over her more and more, I'm seeing how I'm starting to fuck much hotter girls. OP, use this energy to grow yourself. You won't believe how many and how hot girls you're gonna be fucking on the regular if you choose the tough path.

Feel the pain man. It's so healthy for you.

[–]Brontosaurus_Bukkake 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been there and I completely agree. I wish I hadn't drowned my sorrows in booze and drugs it had a very negative long term effect on me trying to numb the pain and the thing is when the anesthetic wares off the pain will still be waiting for you but you'll have a hangover on top of the pain. It isn't avoidable and OP don't try to avoid it. It isn't something you can run away from mentally or physically, just use this as a tool to strengthen yourself.

[–]J_Ferrara07 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dinosaur Jr.- Feel the Pain: http://youtu.be/iI53ZjHnO2g

[–]auepoch1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Update: I was super sad about it for about a week. Then it started getting better when I internalized that it's for the better. It seems funny what started to happen though. I realized that it was a hidden opportunity to grow and I see it now as a gift. Of course I'm never going to be "cool" with it, because specifically her choice, after all that she said (mostly bs), put me in a really shitty situation and I'm always going to think that was a really bitch move on her part (her problem). I'm not going to be bitter about it because I already accepted that it was her choice to be a bitch and it hurt me initially, but the final outcome of the situation has given me so much more insight and potential that I missed out on.<sup>If you'd like, you can think of it like an endothermic reaction graph with energy as pain (bottom being
unaware[less off], adequate pain, realization, happiness, more aware[better off]
.</sup>

All said and done, I realize that I was inadvertently gifted freedom and it's for the best. She may or may not look back with regret after seeing how I've improved. Either way it doesn't matter because I'm free and enlightened. This whole experience has me arduously applying the philosophy of self improvement and I look forward to it.

[–]danweL 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You shouldn't be asking girls why they have feelings for someone else. Read The Book of Pook by Pook and The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. You are definitely in need of some enlightenment. The way you tell your story screams it.

One piece of advice for future involvements with plates or LTRs (should you choose one again), don't take the other guy seriously and try to forbid her from seeing him. It should be funny to you bc you're you, and he's just him. Tease her about her new boyfriend. Then if something does happen you ghost out of her life with a hard next. This means she is no longer in your life, you don't talk to her and you move on.

[–]King2realz 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bro, don't even think about this girl. No offence, but chances are she's not even hot. You'll look back at this girl in 5-10 years time and literally laugh at how low your standards were back then. Be glad she's someone else's problem now. I know this hard to hear, but bare in mind I wish nothing but the best for you.

You're going to meet so-fucking-many gorgeous, talented, hard-working girls with great self-esteem and values down the road. Just stick with this game and good things will come. Nonetheless it's gonna be alot harder than it was before, you're gonna have to work this around and not settle for whatever is infront of you.

Also don't stay in contact with this girl in any way whatsoever. She missed out, her bad. Delete and block her number and never see her again. Not out of petty ego issues, but because you described her as getting depressed easily, low confidence etc. You DO NOT need these low-value people in your life. They're fucking leeches and you don't want to be their emotional tampon.

Best of luck,

[–]FrameWalker 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Good luck man. Most likely she went for the other guy because of alpha fucks asshole style game.

  1. Very strong cocky/asshole teasing
  2. Slices through her shit tests like butter
  3. Heavy preselection - openly flaunts being with other girls
  4. Most likely he's bigger than you

I didn't reply and just said bye.

Well done.

Is there advice I should take if she tries to get in contact me again or crawls back after realizing she made a mistake?

No contact. She fucked up big time. No closure will give her hamster a long spin.

[–]redcamouflage 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No closure will give her hamster a long spin.

I commend your positive thinking but its actually a pretty short spin to "He was so devastated that he was speechless..." before she forgets you altogether.

Thats why I think the absolute best break up response is full on positivity. Tell her its been swell, wish her the best, and after a big friendly hug be on your way and radio silent thereafter. Your apparent indifference to losing her will seriously fuck with her.

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"But I was so much better than him! Wasn't I?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!"

[–]auepoch 5 points5 points5 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

7 hours after I said bye to her she tried to call me 6 times and left me about 12 messages. She sent me more this morning and asked to talk to me. I still haven't said anything back.
I know for a fact that this guy is not bigger than me. He may do the c/a teasing and pretends to be a poser 'thug.' I'm kind of pisssed/insulted that she would even consider this guy because I know weight for weight I have more substance.

 

They were platonic friends before I met her but she recently found out via his friend that he had 'feelings.' This is when she told me she 'needed some space.' During which she concluded thugmiester was more deserving of her attention. I know for a fact they didn't get physical because he's away at school. Her and I haven't been together physically for a while because of our living circumstances. I think proximity plays a small role in all of this but I think that her emotional readiness for this guy as soon as she found out is not acceptable.

Edit: Do you think 100% it's best to deny her contact? She's been begging me for the past few hours to talk about it and it's eating me up a little bit. Should I continue or give her one last call and listen then say something neutral that'll make her regret it more? :( Advice would be golden and I'll be checking back periodically throughout the day.

[–]newzealander 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Mate you have to realise you are not the first person on earth to be in this situation. Everyone here is telling you the same thing. Take comfort in the fact that surely we can't all be wrong.

[–]auepoch1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah it sucks but this is correct.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRS73 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Dude...Absolutely do NOT fucking contact her or respond to her no matter what. DON'T FUCKING DO IT, GODDAMMIT. Right now she's trying to feed her feels because the breakup and the idea of a new man has her all stimulated and she's bouncing off the walls and trying to work off the exciting feelzy energy of it all. And what better way to do it than fuck with your head some more?

Right now, you have reclaimed your self respect and your integrity and YOU are in the driver's seat. Make sure you stay there. The minute you start whimpering through the feelings of it all with her, you give up your self respect and she once again loses her interest in and respect for you and long term you will hate yourself for turning into a weak pussy. Been there, done that myself. Don't do it.

There have to be consequences for her choices. If she sees that you can't even refrain from contacting her, not even for a few days, that shows that she doesn't have to respect you. She can treat you any way she wants and you'll come romping back to her like a dumb puppy that gets kicked in the head and keeps coming back for more.

[–]auepoch 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I fucked up. I ignored her for a couple days and she was moaning about how she fucked it up and how she can't be without me. She asked to talk to me and I ignored her. Then after another day I called her, immediately she picked up. I told her I'm not going to be in a relationship where I'm not respected and she admitted she's not good at making decisions and that she wasn't loyal or honest to me and said I deserve better. "I don't want to lose you but I have feelings for x." She said "give me some time to think (as if I'd consider taking her back) about it because I still have feelings for him." I just lost it at the level of shit that was pouring out of her mouth. Told her that she can tell him bye or I'm gone.

She started crying and told me that she loved me and didn't want to loose me so I just hung up. Sent her a message that said have fun. Don't plan on talking to her and deleting all of her contacts. I just wish I would have initially straight ignored her so she wouldn't have heard my voice again. She didn't deserve to.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRS73 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't beat yourself up. There's no point in that especially since it sounds like you handled it pretty well. I think there's been research done that, in these situations, there's actually a biochemical process operating in our brains where we're almost like heroin addicts in withdrawal when breaking up with someone. It's hard to go cold turkey and give up our "fix" of the woman even if she's toxic.

"I don't want to lose you but I have feelings for x."

In other words, hold my hand while I branch swing. Fuck that.

She started crying and told me that she loved me and didn't want to loose me so I just hung up.

The question here is what "love" is she really referring to? A "love" where you hold her coat and tell her she looks great while she fucks some other guy? That's not remotely love as you're experiencing it from your perspective so it's happy trails and adios, bitch.

It's time to focus on hobbies or fun things you do, preferably with male friends. Red pillers are correct in saying don't sink your life into video games but a friend of mine got through a bad breakup by immersing himself in slaughtering Hitler's army for a couple of weeks and it helped hold his attention on something else and pass the time. Don't drink too much because alcohol's a depressant and you also might drunk dial her and humiliate the fuck out of yourself. Exercise is good. If there are any remotely receptive women you've had a hard on for and if you can hold frame on your emotional state, then try to fool around with them.

[–]auepoch1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I just want to say thanks for the replies. It's helped me a lot. Lately I've been getting a lot of things done that I put off and it feels good to have time to myself to be productive instead of being consumed in a relationship. Self improvement feels good and I plan it being my one true relationship.

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, just keep ignoring her. Or, as others have said, be positive.

She'll try to talk about feelings and may even say, I made a mistake.

[–]auepoch1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

She did, I made the mistake of listening.
She returned right back to disrespect.
Hung up and left her with a positive "have fun."

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[–]auepoch1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't feel as bad anymore. She acted really shitty so I care so much less. It's usually two months for 100%?

[–]Brontosaurus_Bukkake -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is she saying anything specific in the messages that is eating p ou up like threats of self harm? Or is it general stuff like "please answer" "I want to talk" "I need closure" type stuff? I'm totally new to RP but even to me the obvious thing to do is no contact no response, but if she's threatening to kill herself or something you should let a family member of hers know. The only reason I say that is because if it is legit and she does something you don't want to go through life feeling like you did nothing and if it is BS then she would learn real fast that shit like that is serious and not a tool for manipulation when her parents take her to a psyche ward.

[–]auepoch 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

She didn't say anything that could be taken as a threat. Not this time anyway. She needs to learn that shit isn't to be used for leverage. Her new buddy is going to find that out fast. Your comment reminded me again that I'm glad I'm done with her. She's someone else's responsibility now and it shouldn't be looming in the back of my mind anymore.

[–]0xdada8 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Every. Pre-RP. Breakup. Ever.

Dude, sorry for your loss. Men take these things harder. The stuff that gets posted here will help a lot. The hardest part is when we have to admit we didn't act on our instincts and lied to ourselves that things would be ok.

Good news is, you aren't alone.

Tomorrow:

  • Gym: sign up for training a few times a week. Burn it off.
  • Accountant: appointment to make plan for a financial strategy.
  • Doctor: appointment for full spectrum STD test. confident clean slate.
  • Rebound: treat yourself well, but don't be self destructive. Avoid being wasted.
  • No major life decisions for 3-6 mos.

Is there a post that describes the archetypical BP relationship collapse? It's got to have only like 3-4 basic patterns.

[–]RevengeFantasy7 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Posts like these are why men need to step up their game in reading body language. So you will not be blindsided. It seems like even the most retarded women on this earth are light-years ahead of us in reading body language.

So many times I'll be browsing /askmen, and see guys actually brag about being socially retarded and not being able to read signals, and lament that more women need to start doing the "asking out".

GET REAL, chumps.

[–]Hokuto199x 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't take her back as a boyfriend. You can have sex with her again if you want, but you can't get attached. She's proven she's not good LTR material. Also when you try telling them to stop talking to someone that's insecure. If a man makes you feel threatened that lowers your SMV in her eyes while raising his. You're literally doing it to yourself at that point.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't have sex with her until you've banged a few other women, otherwise your oneitis will re-emerge.

[–]bama79rolltide 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a very critical key. OP mentioned that he is feeling grief.

I'd stay away forever. Kings don't chase. They replace.

[–]jeezydasnowman 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow why are you quoting her breakup speech? Did you have a notebook and pen you were writing down what she said so you could analyze and change yourself so shell love you again? Jesus Christ...

When a girl breaks up with you you already know the reason - tingles hypergamy etc. Be amused that she is so fickle. "You'll regret it" - wrong. "Have fun" - click then no contact . Her head will explode wondering why you aren't upset, fazed, or saddened. Ofc you are but she will never know cuz u aren't answering her calls and have cut her out of your life. Do it op , move on, in six months maybe add her into the rotation as strictly fuckbuddies but DO NOT TRY TO GET BACK W HER!!

/rant

[–]Brontosaurus_Bukkake 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From what I interpreted, she texted it to him.

[–]lordrand11 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My advice to you comrade, if she ever does get back in touch with you, don't acknowledge it. Not to her, not to your friends, and not even to yourself. She made this choice and you need to make yours, commit to bettering yourself.

I say this from my experience as a previous beta.

[–]purecyse 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You will be better for this. Relax and don't attempt to run from that lack of companionship, embrace it. As a young man, there is no better time to realize that alone does not mean lonely.

Of course do the usual: lift, read, run, improve your diet. I always recommend a physical activity where you are in competition with others like pickup basketball, boxing, martial arts, etc. Outside of really being able to see the results of working out, there are many mental benefits and several opportunities to increase your social circle.

Next, which seems to be contrary to popular opinion, when you're emotionally ready, accept her trying to reconnect with you. After time apart, the "new" you will be a whole different challenge. She'll come back thinking that despite your improvements you will value her exactly the same as before she left. That you're a known capacity...familiar...safe. You know the type of animal she is, however, so make her a plate. The time apart will be more than enough to reframe the situation: make yourself the prize.

With monogamy getting to the point where you can't even lie to yourself about how uncommon it truly is: dealing with a devil you know can be almost a godsend. As in, you know she's not worth that LTR commitment, don't dare make the mistake.

[–]apackofwankers 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Many years ago, I was seeing an Israeli woman who was from a very orthodox Hassidic family.

The woman was in love with me, and, because I wasn't Jewish, her mother taught her a technique for falling out of love.

The technique was this: "Every time you think of him, you should picture him being on the toilet"

Now, creating an association between shit and the object of your love might have been an effective technique for a prissy 50s housewife, but it didn't work for me when I tried it, and I got really creative with the scatological theme.

What worked for me is this:

Click on this link https://www.google.com/search?q=spider+macro&tbm=isch and pick a spider. This is your spider.

Stop using your loved one's name, and instead refer to them as "it", especially if talking to yourself.

Every time you think of your loved one, picture the spider and stare into its baleful, soulless eyes.

After you have starred into its eyes long enough, mentally bring a boot down on it, crushing it and terminating that thought.

Much like the foot in the Monty Python theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49c-_YOkmMU It helps if you make a fart sound as you crush it.

Then, get on with your life. After about a month of this practise, you will stop thinking of your loved one.

About getting on with your life: exercise is the best medication for these heartbreaks.

Doesn't have to be a spider, but spiders are something that humans (and other animals) have a primal aversion to.

You can get creative and try cockroaches, snakes or whatever works for you. Best that its something you have a primal aversion to.

If you arent a visual person, you can try creating other aversions - something that smells bad (like a dead fish or a whiff of tear gas), or something that is painful (like a small sharp stone taped to your arm), or something that sounds horrible (youtube Justina Shoe Beaver).

If she sends you a message, reply with "I have received your message" and nothing more.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was surprised she was open to tell you she was basically branch swinging. Most women will deny it until caught red handed. Even my cunty ex that branch swang after 6 years didn't have the heart to tell me I was being replaced.

I welcome you to the board and hope that you know what to do when she tries to crawl back (seems she will when shes done/bored).

[–]foomfoomfoom 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I went through a very similar experience about 4 months ago. It's what brought me to trp. Everyone (myself included) thought that she was being a traitorous fool, and said I should make sure that the experience didn't leave me "jaded."

I chose to blame myself. The reason why she fell for me in the first place was because I was extremely driven and building my business. But she revealed herself to be very demanding of attention and time. It made it hard for me to focus on business. And this is where I failed: I told myself that the only reason I wanted to be successful was so I could find love. So I stopped pushing the gas on my business and became more and more invested in the relationship. Big mistake. It was at that point that (unbeknownst to me) she started losing interest. Then I got blindsided by a breakup a few months later.

I don't blame her. It's her feminine nature. I started reading this forum and a few other books, created an okcupid profile, and have had sex with a lot of random women. There's a girl I'm seeing now who I like and am strongly considering getting into a relationship with, but I vow to never treat her like a NAWALT. I am going to use my attraction to her as motivation to stay focused on my mission and work faster than harder than I would if there weren't a beautiful woman holding me accountable. I know she doesn't understand love the way I do. And I don't hold that against her. We just have to learn the rules of the game. Sadly, we have to go through a lot of pain to get that knowledge.

Baudrillard says "femininity is a challenge to masculinity to exist." For him, masculinity is the force that creates and sustains order. Femininity tries to seduce the masculine into doing the kinds of things that would fuck up the order it aims to impose. The stupidest thing the masculine can do is allow itself to be seduced. I allowed myself to be seduced. Never again.

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[–]bretmaster52 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Be sad, feel the pain. Feel your suffering.

But do no contact her. Do not do it, trust me.

If you want further advice contact me directly. I have something for you

[–]99_Problem 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're still complicating this shit. It's actually simple. This other dude was banging the shit out of your girl. It's got nothing to do with intelligence, or what she thinks is attractive. He entertains her more than you, fucks her better than you, and that's it.

The best advice is build a bridge and get the fuck over it. Forget about her.

[–]thegr8b8m8 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anytime a woman tells you she needs space don't delude yourself your relationship is officially over at that point. This is a hard valuable lesson OP. We always want so badly to believe women but you just can't listen to what they say. You have a lot to work on as far as your still being very beta acting and this might be the best thing to ever happen to you so that you never delude yourself into believing the fairytale romance nonsense.

And if she contacts you ignore her don't fall for it OP. Thing is from your writing I don't think your strong enough to just make her a plate at this point. If you take her back she will have accomplished her goal of getting banged by an alpha and then returning to her beta that will provide for her and the alpha's offspring.

[–]Ambarsariya 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your story is almost exactly as mine just that mine happened some time back. Don't worry, you will be fine. The coming days would be a bit hard especially Feb for you. But give it some time and work on yourself. Soon you would realize it happened for good. Coz then you would be keeping your interest at top.

I would suggest going dark to her, as you have mentioned about her red flags.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She also said that they 'get' each other better

I always laugh at these illogical chickish comments. Let me run it through the hamster-lator....

"He makes me tingle like you did when we first met so it FFEEEEEEELLLLLZ like he gets me."

Gratz on your freedom. This time read up on plate theory and slay the fuck out of it. Go through those bitches like a bull moose at Pamplona.

[–]dub121686 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I’m on to the next one" - Jay Z

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

lol.

Is there advice I should take if she tries to get in contact me again or crawls back after realizing she made a mistake?

OP, dude. She didn't make a mistake. Hypergamy is specifically not a mistake. If she didn't branch swing, she'd be the female version of a beta bucks... like you. Sorry, harsh truth, but the side bar is that way --->

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checking my post history and making assumptions. nice.

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