If 80% of men are beta, does that mean there are a lot of women who never get to experience and develop a taste for alphas?

Pastelitomaracucho · 2019-12-18T15:19:27+00:00

This AF/BB thing is very strange to me. I've been in multiple exclusive LTRs and never one did I feel like I was taken advantage of or that it was transactional or worried that my gf would cheat. I guess the only way it was transactional was they expected me to spend time with them but I wanted to spend time with them and I expected them to spend time with me.

gimpgirl555 · 2019-12-18T09:13:57+00:00

there are some women I meet who seem to have no concept of validational relationships. They purely talk of relationships in transactional terms and have a deer in headlights look when I talk about how a man could just sweep them off their feet without spending much money or time on her.

could a lot of women be only seeing these beta men in their real life and developing their criteria for relationships around this one-sided experience?

Yes this is common. And women like this are not going to be swept off their feet by an "alpha male" either. They just like betabux type guys and relationships.

reluctantly_red · 2019-12-18T13:33:10+00:00

Most women will never develop a taste for alphas. Living with an actual alpha is very difficult. The vast majority of women require more comfort and security than an alpha is capable of providing.

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Freevoulous · 2019-12-18T09:47:41+00:00

Some women have very low libido, to the point that no matter how Alpha a guy is, she would not feel sexually excited by him. For these women (and they make easily 10% of the female population if not more) only Beta Bux makes any sense.

Why want a sexy guy if you do not like sex?

DisastrousMeaning1 · 2019-12-18T16:07:52+00:00

I don't know if women are seeing only beta men, or having sex with only betas. From talking with women and from experience, most women I've met have at least at one time, had sex with at least one really attractive man who pushed all the right buttons. And, they've had a lot of mediocre sex with mediocre guys. Some of the sex with the mediocre guys was pretty good, but most of it was just OK.

Edit: They see mostly betas and omegas. They have a lot of dating and sexual experience with betas and omegas. End edit.

So if you believe most women, and I do, most of them have had experience with "alphas" or very attractive men. They know what it's like to meet them, get to know them, have sex with them, be treated well by them, be treated not so well by them, and be fucked over by them.

Most women develop a taste for alpha attractive men. It's just that most women can't get one for commitment. That's the source of much of women's dissatisfaction with relationships and sex.

dylang92 · 2019-12-18T15:55:28+00:00

Well I think the idea is that 80% of women are fighting for the top 20%. They may not experience an LTR with an alpha man, but they’ll experience a ONS usually with them and thus developing their “taste”.

fooormaaaanmills · 2019-12-18T10:55:21+00:00

Also alpha and beta are false concepts that the originator detracts ( wolf pack study ). Some men may act submissive to other men but around women they become dominant and vice versa.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YTyQgwVvYyc

maljo24 · 2019-12-18T11:47:47+00:00

Alpha is relative. Every man is alpha.

[deleted] · 2019-12-18T16:41:58+00:00

Lol no, thats what fantasizing is for. Literotica and rom-coms are littered with alphas, often literal princes.

[deleted] · 2019-12-18T23:43:34+00:00

They purely talk of relationships in transactional terms and have a deer in headlights look when I talk about how a man could just sweep them off their feet without spending much money or time on her.

Are you a guy? They're probably trying to not look like sluts.

CHAD_TDK · 2019-12-19T03:52:15+00:00

You don't have to own or even ever driven a Ferrari to have a lust for a Ferrari.

Workaholiconew · 2019-12-20T04:05:28+00:00

If 80% of men are beta, does that mean there are a lot of women who never get to experience and develop a taste for alphas?

ahahahhaha I wish it was the case, but those women are almost impossible to find in the modern day, I've met like 4 in my entire life. I've met many women who never experienced the taste of betas, whoever.

It is more probable that what you saw was the 'forgeting' effect which surrounds low value men. Betas may be throwing themselves at women daily but being completely forgotten by these women, it is no different of how you see homeless every day but can't remember a single one after a while or how many people don't even perceive the cleaning crew at their jobs.

Many women have this strange idea that people are good and that feelings matter because they perceive it, but somehow don't process that they are betas fighting for acknowledgment, not the natural state of the world. I find it funny really. A guy calls a woman for a date and all she perceived was that she ate a nice steak. heh. But it sometimes lead to bad conclusions.

Women call meeting alphas as 'chemistry' or some other unrealistic thing... but it is pure instinct. I wish they would be clearer but well... such is the world.

NockerJoe · 2019-12-18T10:48:57+00:00

Thats how the numbers break down. Women are getting laid less too. The current dynamic helps sluts and manwhores and not many others.

Truedemocracy5 · 2019-12-18T13:05:26+00:00

Alpha and beta is relative. If you’re in an isolated community then sure, the women can go around thinking her guy is high value. Ex: small town. Stay at home mom. Etc

The more guys she meets though the greater the chance of her meeting a relative alpha to you and branch swinging

Coder-Cat · 2019-12-18T14:57:22+00:00

I’m just gonna say this. There are no such thing as “Alpha” or “Betas”. Some dudes are trash but most are Ok or better than that. Women don’t rate men in this binary way.

Kos_-_Omak · 2019-12-18T15:37:39+00:00

They purely talk

Yeah women say a lot of dumb shit that doesn't match up to reality

WIA20XX · 2019-12-19T00:45:27+00:00

Alphas are promiscuous and noncommittal. The genetic evidence is 80% of women reproduced, but only 40% of men? (Google it)

She has a good chance of getting serviced by Chad.

MikepGrey · 2019-12-18T09:22:38+00:00

Omegas are kids and people who ever grew up mentally (this is about 20-40% of the population.

Betas are men who are really good at one thing or are developing the skills needed to be an alpha.

Alphas are only about 10% of the population, people who lead and know lots of stuff and can do lots of stuff.

Most women are still thinking Omegas are betas...

Creation_Soul · 2019-12-18T09:56:01+00:00

I think it also depends on how you define alpha in terms of casual relationships/sex. I know a lot of guys who would be considered alpha is they were still on the dating market, but they have been in a LTR since very early in their dating/sexual lives. So, yes they would be alphas, but are off-the-market.

Also, the second thing is that even women would be attracted to 20% of men, not all of those women are into (consistent) casual sex. I think this is one of the shortcomings of TRP. If you go to bars/clubs to meet women, there is a selection bias there towards women who are more likely to enjoy casual sex or hookups. So even if a women might be attracted to a man, casual sex may not be something she is really into, so him only looking for casual sex becomes a big flaw.

I just think that even if only 20% of men are alphas, the ones that want to be in a committed LTR (and are not already in one) is quite small. Most of the people I would describe as alphas were already in a LTR before they were 25. Of ones that were not in a LTR by 25, 80% of them are still not in a LTR because they are not looking for one.

Title	If 80% of men are beta, does that mean there are a lot of women who never get to experience and develop a taste for alphas?
Author	majani
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Date	December 18, 2019 9:07 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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