Lost work - sexual harassment

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February 26, 2020
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I tapped one of my female colleague "Sara" on the shoulder and said "hey. I'm taking my break now. Can you take the customer phone?"

The other female colleague disturbed me during my break another time giving me a whole monolog saying she didn't ment to be "bossy" when telling me when I could take a break. And I accidentally laughed at her saying I was not offended but it was kind/sweet that she wanted to make sure i was not upset

-she told my boss I said she looked cute

The other one threw my jacket into a fridge once and said she was to lazy to take it out when I asked her why.

(I have no clue what she has against me except I said once I don't think university is as good a deal as many claims. ( she's a student)

Btw. The last one... Has some vibe..... It's the same vibe my narcissist ex had but I don't know this new girl so much that I can really judge. Next time we worked she was very sweet and helpful.

In terms of talk I treat them the same as my male colleagues. "good work. Thanks. Take care. Hey how are you" I'm a bit more physical with my male colleagues with fist bumps and taps on shoulders too.

(I have developed a habit of tapping people on their arm or shoulder to get their attention since in my previous work it was a really loud environment and it's an effective way or directing someone's focus back to you)

I never linger, never caress, never grab.

I don't know what to do.

I have two more weeks at this job before I have to leave and I don't know what I dare say and do.

Please help. Have I done anything wrong?


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Title Lost work - sexual harassment
Author legend503
Upvotes 70
Comments 156
Date 26 February 2020 02:52 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/341081
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/f9ucom/lost_work_sexual_harassment/
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[–]mugatucrazypills125 points126 points  (7 children) | Copy

Ditch the habit. Don't touch women at work. Not if they explicitly ask for it, not ever. Males is up to you, frankly you can have fight club with the other men and I bet it would not matter to HR. (non-sexual)Touch is an important physiological part of the human experience and a connection to your fellow humans. Infants are not touched "fail to thrive" and die. Here's hoping your coworkers react the same way.

If it ever comes up with HR tell them, you're a homosexual germaphobe with special needs(whatever that means) and immediately file a Human Rights complaint. Just make up random shit and keep them in paperwork for next 10 years, since that's what women do. You'll fit in better at work, and become unfireable.

[–]3chazthundergut32 points33 points  (4 children) | Copy

  1. Stop touching females at work.

  2. Stop talking about non work-related things at work. Always keep it professional, and keep your opinions about education or anything else to yourself.

  3. I cannot imagine a coworker putting my jacket in the refrigerator. None of my female colleagues feel like they know me well enough or that we have "that kind" of working relationship where they would touch any of my shit, much less put it in a freezer. Obviously this person feels super comfortable with you, which means that you've already eroded professional boundaries with her. Probably by chatting too much. As you learn to set boundaries and carry yourself with a masculine frame, this type of challenging behavior from female coworkers will stop.

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[–]Mescalean4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same I work at a weed grow and this sounds like my worst nightmare

[–]Mobile_Pepper12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

lol, “tell HR you’re a homosexual germaphobe.”

this guy is wild

[–]Ill_mumble_that126 points127 points  (4 children) | Copy

Well since you are leaving anyway, you should fuck both of them.

[–]Standgrounding37 points38 points  (2 children) | Copy

Don't shit where you eat, but if you shit... Drop a NUKE there

[–]Greaterbird4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't shit where you eat, unless you like eating shit

[–]Mobile_Pepper4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I shit where I sleep, cuz I like sleeping in shit

[–]FilipDimko2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao hahahahaha

[–]matthewrichards318662 points63 points  (4 children) | Copy

Interactive with women as little as possible at work. I had to learn this myself. Most women aren't insane like you're describing. But ALL women can end your position/career.

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

No...most women ARE insane and very few aren’t. The comments on this thread should be proof enough of that...

[–]Ill_mumble_that4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women will do whatever they can get away with. Honor and virtue are not concepts they understand or practice.

The problem is the person deciding what that is for most of their life, is usually their father. And many now are raised without a father or with a bluepill cuck as a father.

Especially in the black neighborhoods. 70% single mother rate.

If you were wondering why black women are the worst to deal with, that's why. It's not a race issue, it's a lack-of-daddy issue.

[–]Nergaal4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you were wondering why black women are the worst to deal with, that's why. It's not a race issue, it's a lack-of-daddy issue.

I never quite understood that about the American black society. That makes so much sense now that you put it that way.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just avoid women as best as you can. Obviously don’t tell anyone about that idea, since that will get you fired, too. Just avoid them, unless you have to work together with them. Keep it simple and distant. Don’t talk personal stuff.

[–]Rage815019 points20 points  (8 children) | Copy

As someone who's been working in a white collar corporate environment my whole career and never had any issues whatsoever I can only say you're clearly doing something wrong. Don't give anyone the opportunity to have that kind of leverage over you. For example I sometimes go out to grab lunch with male colleagues but NEVER with just a single female colleague because they can say you did X, Y or Z and there's no way to prove you didn't. When it comes to #MeToo culture it's the opposite of the way the law works.... you're assumed guilty unless you can prove otherwise. So don't give them the chance. Your career is way too important to risk on a woman looking for attention and/or who wants to get rid of you for their own reasons.

[–]Standgrounding5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're assumed guilty unless you can prove otherwise

That's how the social media X gossip thing works. We're all in some deep shit tbh.

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

8 Years in other professions where men and women are equally filthy. Construction and bar.

I never new this was a real thing outside whatever youtube video about college campus it's about.

Call me naive. But I didn't really think we had gone this far. A tap on the shoulder....

If I had asked them out or said something sexual sure. Then it's valid. But I literally haven't.

The only one is the one that tries to boss me around and I just stand my ground. Her attitude is a bitch.

But I never say anything.

But imma keep my hands in my pocket and only speak unless spoken to until my 2 weeks are up.

I understand why professors never have a closed door while discussing with a female

[–]TFWnoLTR4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

But imma keep my hands in my pocket and only speak unless spoken to until my 2 weeks are up.

Just based on my own experience, going quiet all of the sudden could get you some unwanted attention from the more drama addicted coworkers. Don't speak just because you're spoken to. Don't speak at all unless it's about specific work related tasks. Don't get drawn into personal conversations.

[–]fivesfe1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I feel your leaving something out of the picture. When the HR Dept explained this to you what exactly did they say?

As well why don't your just quit now? Jobs are easy to find..you know abundance mentality

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's no hr

Your feelings doesn't matter in this case. What happened is what I wrote.

Jobs are easy? What fairytale country do you live in?

Here you need an education or experience for most jobs worth having where you don't want to earn 13 dollars an hour.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

There's no hr

Your feelings doesn't matter in this case. What happened is what I wrote.

Jobs are easy? What fairytale country do you live in?

Here you need an education or experience for most jobs worth having where you don't want to earn 13 dollars an hour.

[–]fivesfe-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Last people complain about how hard job hunting can be.

Well also idiots

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Where do you live?

I can't tell if your dumb or just falsely informed.

Things have changed her a lot over the last few years

They don't accept whatever because your resume and personal letter is world class.

You have to have a PhD or proof of whatever subject your into.

Like I need to go to hr education to handle their job. Even though I can do better than most hr without it. But I NEED it

It's not about my intelligence. It's about the paper

Unless I have contacts to get me in.

[–]Subutai_Baghatur36 points37 points  (35 children) | Copy

Go to your doctor, explain how stressed and depressed you are (even if it’s bullshit) and get a sick note for the remainder of your time there.

In future, avoid talking to girls as much as you can out of earshot of anyone, as well as physical contact.

I can’t imagine this false allegation happening to someone who the girls in a workplace enjoying ogling and being around and secretly want to fuck so consider what may have caused her to lie about this about YOU. Do you give off a creepy vibe... Do you come across as weak and timid... Are you words incongruent with your behaviour/posture etc? Change what you can.

[–]mugatucrazypills20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. Sick Note. Go to the Gym. Interact as little as needed But be assertive.

Consider a preemptive complaint.

[–]Nergaal3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do you give off a creepy vibe... Do you come across as weak and timid... Are you words incongruent with your behaviour/posture etc?

It's usually this. True alphas rarely get screwed up

[–]bluesnsouls2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Go to your doctor, explain how stressed and depressed you are (even if it’s bullshit) and get a sick note for the remainder of your time there.

Hmm, nice

[–]legend503[S] 3 points4 points  (31 children) | Copy

I'm the only one there that treat male and female equally.

In terms of talking and work.

I have no desire for any one of them. They are either fat, annoying or feminist.

One studies gender sciences.

Creepy vibe?? Maybe. But that would be a first. I don't know what that would be.

"hey how are you. Can you do that? Hey I'mtaking a break now. What do you study . How long have you worked here?

We don't really talk. Except when I need help with something. I was new there..

[–]TFWnoLTR9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

I'm the only one there that treat male and female equally.

Looks like we found the problem.

Stop treating the women at work like they are men. Women hate being treated like a man.

Stop being friendly. Stop touching them in any way. Stop talking to them about anything not directly related to your work. When they approach you to gab, just nod and smile. Don't contribute to conversation. Shrug your shoulders and act like you're just trying to get back to work when they ask you personal questions. Don't offer to help with anything that isn't explicitly a part of your job description. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever close the door of a room where you and a female coworker are alone. If a female coworker enters your office and closes the door, there better be an easy way for people sitting or standing outside the room to see in, like a sidelight or glass insert in the door. If not, immediately stand up and go open the door. If she asks why just explain that you don't feel comfortable not being able to see what's happening outside the room.

Doing this will make you a bit of a social pariah among your female coworkers, but they will no longer be a threat to your job and career. And you don't care what they think of you anyways, right?

This is how I deal with the women in work with. And while it means I get grouped up with the boring people for social events at work, I have nothing to fear in terms of sexual harrassment acusations. In fact, one time a female client accused me of intimidating her during a meeting, hoping her accusation would scare us into providing services for free. I never even had to point out that her husband and brother in law were both at the only meeting I ever had with her, nor did I have to explain that it would make zero sense for me to try and intimidate someone when they're already locked into a contract that states clearly what services are included and what are extra. When management heard about the accusation they all just laughed because it would be so out of character for me to do anything like that. It became a joke at the office to say "are you trying to intimidate me?" In response to me saying hello, lol.

I know it sucks, but just don't get personal in any way with anyone at work, especially women.

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[–]brosky73314 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Seriously this is insane at this point.

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[–]brosky73311 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

All that shit he thinks you need to do

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks bro!

[–]checkthingsout1 point2 points  (23 children) | Copy

You sound clueless and as I read your comments I feel like you are out of touch, it's kind of annoying because how would you not know? You are semi aware of went wrong but still finding excuses, you weren't unaware but you were more like egotistic about it. But once you are an employee you already accepted a lowly status. Women dont look at peasants they want Lord's. I think deep down you know but won't accept it.

You want to be their equal. You want to be flamboyant. You want to be casual and have some sort of social status by chatting non work stuff, treating women like the boys etc.

I know quite a few men who are angry about similar thing but trying to play dumb which is what I feel you are doing. You are a basic worker and women, in some way, decide and evaluate our social status for us, they have spoken. They deem you not worthy. So don't go beyond that boundaries and act above your real status. It's sad I know. But this is basically you being in denial.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (22 children) | Copy

It has never been a problem for almost 10 years In my work experience.

That's all I have to say about that.

[–]checkthingsout0 points1 point  (21 children) | Copy

You are not asking question. You are just trying to deny rhaf time have changed and you have ended up becoming a disposable, lowly employee. Sadly I know one guy like that, but instead of being realistic about what's going on he become more delusonal

You whole thread shows you are trying to be delusional about it. Shit gone bad and its entirely you. Whether they are feminist or not. The probelms came from you. You deny every comment that implies you werent smart or in touch

[–]legend503[S] 2 points3 points  (20 children) | Copy

You fucking dope. It's fucked up.

I have never experienced anything close to this sin ce I started working. And I have been in multiple occupations.

I could not foresee this. There's nothing to be more realistic about. You have to adapt to these crazy times. And it's crazy that such small things become this big of a deal.

I don't know who you are or what you have come to accomplish. But you only strikes me as someone who memorize reddit posts and sidebars and act like a knowitall.

[–]checkthingsout0 points1 point  (19 children) | Copy

I don't read Reddit much. I just dislike you already because you remind me about of slot of my friends. Men get delusional and egotistical once they are old and unsuccessful. I am a man and I know.

Admit it. You are not here to correct mistakes and learn . You are here to prove yourself right. You want to feel justified.

Man to man I don't want to see you like that. Just want to give you the reality and hopefully you will rise. But j doubt you could because of that ego and your fragility

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (18 children) | Copy

Listen here you liberal fuck.

You have no clue what I'm gonna do and it shows.

Leave this sub and start writing in female dating strategies instead.

[–]checkthingsout-1 points0 points  (17 children) | Copy

Listen lowly employee who allow yourself to be stuck at one place for so long but pretend you are not a peon under many people's in the food chain. That's says everything. If your go to excuse is that we can't know all your delicate situation from a post then why bother post anything here?

Also your quick tantrum confirms my take about your ego. And to assume I am liberal and that you are capable to do anything not knowing my size and background?

Keyboard warrior. U threaten me? Things will go wrong fast lucky you didn't say it to my face boy

I am telling you not to tap people in the arm like you are some charming young good looking frat boy. Your youthful days are over and women no longer believe in your potential because it would show by now and you have past that point where you can do things you described and still be cool.

Learn this lesson and build something and start over instead of holding grudges over answers you don't like for question you pretended to be asking

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (16 children) | Copy

You autistic fuck 😂

[–]Nergaal5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Somebody told me an interesting perspective on equality in the workplace. If you are harsh with a male, you are an asshole. If you are equally harsh t a female, you are a misogynist.

[–]instasnickers3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Sounds like it's the easiest excuse to let someone go nowadays. Might not even be the result of complaints against you. Might be poor management or someone has a relative to hire.

About the girl who lied about you calling her cute, she's not trying to make you look bad, she's trying to make herself look better to others.

Picture a paralysed woman on a wheelchair telling her friends she had to reject this man she was corresponding with because she clearly deserve better. She doesn't, but has a need to let others know whoever might look at her. And sometimes, they make it up.

Edit: a word

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I find them incredibly annoying. But I have made an attempt to be friends with every one since I'm new.

I don't care about the job. It's the accusation that fucks me up.

[–]instasnickers2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The best thing you can do going forward is forget about it. I would not change a bit of your behavioural patterns. If the way you act is the reason they are letting you go, they expect you to act the same way until you go.

If it get more complicated and you have to answer to allegations against you, shut down your emotions and only answer by positives. "I make efforts to be professional" " I'm conscious of the way I talk to my coworker to respect their sense of wellbeing" "I am focused on interacting in a simple and clear way with all of my coworkers"

Avoiding to be defensive will both dismiss the allegation and make it very hard to chase you on them.

If they ever confront you on something a woman claim you said, that you didn't say, answer along those lines " there must be a misunderstanding, I never intended nor recall having said something this inappropriate."

You'll be fine

[–]legend503[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks man

[–]ErectileDistention4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

As a fellow European let me explain this from a viewpoint the Americans on here don't understand. In northern Europe the labor laws/unions work as such that it's almost impossible to fire somebody that has a full time position. Because of this there's something called a probation period (typically 6 months) during which they can evaluate you, and if needed let you go without the mess firing a full time employee would entail. In your case the queen bees didn't like you and the manager can't fire them so in order to keep the peace it's a no brainier to not keep you on. Don't say you were fired because of sexual harassment because it will be misinterpreted. You were not given a full time position because you weren't liked. Take it as a lesson and consider looking for a job in a different environment. Also don't be too quick to dismiss studying. In Northern Europe it's free and the jobs they lead to often have a more mature working environment, where the high school girl antics are less common.

[–]legend503[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most of this is correct. It's not free. It takes tremendous amount of student loans since you rarely have time to work enough to pay for an apartment around 800 dollars.

Thanks man.

[–]ErectileDistention0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you you go for gender studies, then you'll have all the time in the world :)

[–]wawakaka6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

learn from your mistakes. you are getting off lightly. could have been worse.

stop thinking women are rational and logical, stop thinking women are men, stop thinking women are higher thinking animals, stop thinking women are moral, honest, and pure, just remember many women hate men. they will destroy you if they have the chance or to save their own skin.

[–]legend503[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'll learn this.

I work in bar business two. Female colleagues will Hug me slap my butt etc

Started working in a grocery store... Suddenly casual talk and tap on shoulder is this...

[–]Standgrounding1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Settings awareness.

People in grocery store come here so they get their minimum wage because of no job exp.

People in restaurants bars hotels or just about any other hospitality service are much more friendly and open

[–]wawakaka1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

women in bars are usually more flirty and and don't fear men since most make their money from tips etc. but women in office or crap jobs they are usually femeniss and hate men.

but i would still do the keanu reeves hover hands instead of touching them if they hug you.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hahah Keanu! Yeah definetly.... Lol I was just being friendly. I thought about flirting with one of them because she is the only one of physical interest.

But she moved away. And the three remaining is... I wouldn't even want to hug them if I so go without sex for 6 months. They're not my type in any way.

I jsut try to be polite. But that backfired crazy

[–]urbanfoh5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Btw. The last one... Has some vibe..... It's the same vibe my narcissist ex had but I don't know this new girl so much that I can really judge. Next time we worked she was very sweet and helpful.

A side note to your case: Always trust this instinct. Its an evolutionary skill to detect humans biggest threat - other humans.

It is possible that she conspires against you to satisfy her power fantasies. Gain as much distance as possible to her or satisfy her narcissism.

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Feed her ego... My worst enemy. I hate Making people I dislike feel good about being assholes.

But it's the lesser evil in this case.

Yeah. She tried to make the boyfriend of my female friend cheat. And she kissed him infront of her. (around 1-2 years ago)

[–]urbanfoh2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She tried to make the boyfriend of my female friend cheat. And she kissed him infront of her

Then your instinct is (as it mostly is!) right.

I believe we will all need to learn to manipulate and hide our emotions/ intentions. You get a head start at practicing.

[–]CareIsMight2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Personally I'd file a complaint against her. If you can make the complaint compelling enough to make her rescind her statement or even apologise altogether, since she is making a false claim to begin with, I reckon you could pretty much retain your position. It also depends who your manager is, what your relationship with them is like and how you can make your case. If you have male co-workers, and possibly female co-workers, who can also provide character reports and statement on your behaviour at work, that would be great as well.

I've worked in hospitality and it's a lot more relaxed. I'm good friends with many of my female co-workers but you always know where the boundaries are, especially when they say shit like "you know I could make a sexual harassment claim against you at any time". Yep, I've had this said to me a few times now.

Good luck, stand for your rights.

[–]Zanford2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your story/writing is all over the place, it's hard to tell what's going on. If you speak the way you write, there's a good chance you give people the wrong ideas a lot. Brutal, but true.

Do not fucking touch colleagues, not even a shoulder tap. Don't call them 'sweet'.

If you're leaving the job in two weeks anyway, none of this matters, unless it might follow you to the new job or you're need references.

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's good to know for future references.

Well believe or not. My adhd brain really does think this way and finding structure in it is hard for me.

[–]1rugged791 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Don't try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other."

  • Al Bundy

[–]fkinguy2231 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sounds like you work in IT, well if that's the case, stick to being more antisocial (professional, respectful and distant) with your co-workers, works better, you don't want to get involved with them anyway.

If you want to be, whatever you are right now, do it with other colleagues from other parts of the company, not with the direct ones, especially if you don't know them for long.

Friends are you enemies in your company especially if you are doing your job properly.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Friends are enemies... Gold line

[–]Cryptomineand691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Whip your dick out and do the helicopter thing. If those bitches want sexual harassment then give them the real deal

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[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Omg... Yeah I live in a small community... Crazy

[–]Standgrounding1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Save money and leave

[–]Taipoe2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Legit any woman can ruin your entire career. Try to interact with them as little as possible. The less they know you the better

[–]legend503[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I look at my older colleagues who has had office romances and are married....

90s women are fucked up.

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All modern day women are pretty fucked up honestly...

[–]alphakari8 points9 points  (12 children) | Copy

The fact you have an issue with not one, but three women, says it's you, not them.

Quit being a fucking creeper retard. A job isn't the place to push your frame on other people. Know your place.

[–]legend503[S] 7 points8 points  (11 children) | Copy

Litsen up stupid. I don't flirt at work. I have no sexual interest in either of them.

This is what happened. Whether you believe it or not. It happened.

[–]empatheticapathetic6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Asktrp always attracts retard white knights like him. Its a shame.

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

The creepiest thing I've ever said that I can recall is

"walk safely /drive safe"

Because I heard her say it was scary walking all the way home at 10 pm

I don't care about them. I don't want them as friends. I wouldn't ask them out even if we didn't work together.

I'm just work force friendly as I have been the same way for many years at other profession

Our main customers at the store are hipsters, blue hair feminists. Gender sciences etc

So it's a student town and liberal af

[–]empatheticapathetic4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's all fine but you have to simply look at what is a risk and what isn't. No one cares about your true intentions, just how your actions can be utilised to suit their agenda (i'm a victim and he's a creep).

If those are the people at your work, the best advice is to find new work. You will only lose more the longer you stay there because those fat blue haired disgusting feminists are pure toxicity and only want to bring anyone they can down to make themselves feel better that they can't compete in the SMP.

Hopefully you can leave soon and find something else. Good luck.

[–]legend503[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks man. Appreciate it.

[–]Domebeers0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Except you are facing a sexual harassment complaint.

What was the complaint specifically?

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I tapped her on her fucking shoulder to get her attention when there was a bunch of noises and she didn't listen when I said I was taking a break.

So the boss said they didn't feel comfortable. Because I "touched"

[–]Domebeers6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

OK, so you came off as weird. Don't get mad at me for spelling it out for you.

You are on a 'red pilled' site. Here is the truth: The women didn't like you, for whatever reason, and then you gave them an avenue to go after you by touching them, which in a normal world is not weird or creepy, I get it, but you live in clown world.

So if I had to put money on it, your behaviour in the workplace in general was the issue, not this specific incident.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Oh yeah. I'm not like the others.

[–]Domebeers2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Like you can't hear my voice as I type this, so I think you think I'm coming off as hostile, I'm really not. I want to make it clear to you though, you live in clown world. If you are in contact with crazy people at work, ie feminists, limit it. "Hi" and "Goodbye" and that's it. Your other reply where you say how you were different than the work culture...that's going to get people to not like you. Limit exposing yourself. That's one of the rules in 48 rules or power or whatever it's called. It's a good rule. It might not be fair, but life isn't fair.

At your next job keep this in mind.

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have missed that book. Sorry. I'm still pissed of about it.

I'll be fine.

But I won't treat it like construction or bar. Where people actually had fun together and talked in between if something came up.

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[–]longjeep200514 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is a great way to isolate yourself from your colleagues and piss off your boss. No company events? That’s going to hurt you if your rely on others at work. Copying my boss on every email to a female colleague? Sounds like a great way to piss him/her off and raise the suspicion of HR.

[–]Silas10670 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have never cared about my "company". I am not one of those guys. I am a highly-skilled and sought after professional who lets my work do the talking.

I might show up to an event once in a blue-moon, but I generally avoid them (for obvious reasons)

[–]2redhawkes10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

GTFO with this autistic bullshit.

[–]DrizzlyShrimp366 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is literally zero common sense in this thread lol

[–]legend503[S] -1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

Thanks. I have two more weeks.

And when I work with them I'll record every conversation in my phone and I'll never speak until spoken to.

[–]Standgrounding1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Jesus Christ... Do not be paranoid.

It's ok to record if it's secret and they don't know - like u have a recorder hidden in ur pocket.

But never speaking unless talked to... Wtf lol

Speak whenever you need, or want for that matter.

Just do not, under any circumstances, touch her first. It is k if she touches you first or hugs or sth. Then keep the convo friendly.

Yikes this sub... Full of actually autistic people

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Lol don't take it so seriously. I was exaggerating a bit.

[–]Standgrounding1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Good to know. The whole sub is parroting that kind of stuff now. It's almost like 4chan where you post bs just for the memes until you unironically believe the bs

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I'll dissapoint a lot by saying I'm not fully buying all the alpha douchy behavior and hate.

I just find what make sense to me and use it for my well being.

I will of course talk to them. But I will not see them as potential friendly coworkers. They are jsut workers

[–]Standgrounding0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You didn't disappoint. Doubt is what keeps us sane. Doubt is also the very core of Red Pill because it makes you not believe BS people say, and see the truth instead.

"alpha douchy behavior" is not what TRP tries to teach. It's a sexual strategy in twenty first century. Read the side bar and you will understand. But keep it human. Whatever crosses your human values and/or your common sense, you're free to doubt.

Once again it's not OK to disrespect people, especially females. Don't be a douche. Be a strong but friendly man.

(I might have taken you too seriously again but that kind of stuff gets me going)

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haha yeah you have. I just notice how many are in the Comment section and I'm like omg....

But hey. Everybody had their own path.

I try to keep my moral compass where I want it.

[–]PreEntertain-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

1-5 sound good

[–]omega050 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Yea i dont understand are you saying someone filed a suit against you and you lost your job or are you just telling us things you experience at work?

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I had 3 months trial. And they called me in saying the females at work don't feel comfortable. And have to let me go

[–]DrizzlyShrimp360 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Be honest. Are we getting the full story? what did these women say to hr?

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes.

HR is not a part of it. We don't have it. It's not as a common thing as in the states.

They just said what they said to the boss.

It's the full story

[–]White_Phillip0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy

Was this at a restaurant?

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy

Grocery store in a student city

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy

Then you’re not as bad off as you made it out to seem. Losing out on a grocery store job is hardly a career killer.

Take your L and learn from it. Pursuing action here will likely be way more hassle than it’s worth.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

It feels fucked up. It's horrible experience for me

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Welcome to real life. Shit isn’t fair. Especially as a man. You have to learn from it and learn to deal with it.

What are you doing in your life right now that’s in line with TRP?

[–]legend503[S] -1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

Shoot me a message

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Why?

I asked you a straightforward question. If you feel your answer is so complicated to warrant a DM then you should be the one to message me.

[–]legend503[S] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

I didn't get what you meant.

I go lift, try to find my purpose. I refuse to be pushed around by the women I date. Etc etc

I didn't get that it was that straightforward.

You knew exactly what you looked for. I wasn't sure.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That you gave me an answer means you made what I was asking out to be harder than it was.

Honestly you strike me as someone that’s used to having things somewhat easy based on your post and your responses to very simple questions.

Read the sidebar and start actually practicing this shit. Live and breathe TRP before you post here again. This isn’t a fucking hugbox.

[–]legend503[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I ask what I need to ask and for whatever reason there is behind.

You go about your day if you can't contribute

And I'll do the same when I see your posts.

[–]theyearsstartcomin-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Chill fam, guy obviously doesnt speak english as a first language

[–]White_Phillip0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Ah that makes sense. Waitresses/bartenders are probably the most unstable demo of women (tied with Healthcare) but college jobs are high up on the drama scale.

Just remember it's not the specific action that's the problem, it's the person. Attractive alpha dudes can go full Mad Men and all the ladies will be enamored, creepy beta dudes can't glance at a female coworker without getting a HR call. Work on yourself.

[–]legend503[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Oh boy. You're so in the matrix....

Read the sidebar and then use it like a human being.

[–]White_Phillip-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

If I'm going to take any Red Pill advice it sure as hell won't be from the creepy beta three separate women went to get fired.

[–]legend503[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, you'll just be a creep to the hundreds you have approached. Closing rate must be less than 1/100

Did you get bullied in school? Your insecurities are showing.

[–]throwaway900912340 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What country are you in?

[–]legend503[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sweden.

[–]cadaemos0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Correct me if I am wrong. When I read this I feel like you were trying to create a nice lil social environment. Some good vibes and bonds and fun. Don't do that.

You are a man, not a bitch. Be competitive. You should not even be minding the women. Just keep it proffesional and for the rest, stay away from that shit, because:

  1. Women at work talk a lot of bullshit. To men they like, to the boss and especially to other female coworkers. You have to be nice, but have clear boundaries. Finish your work good, but dont let them add work to your pile "thats not how it works".

  2. They can not be plates anyways. It could completely ruin your work if you fuck a female coworker. They are a no no.

Bro, focus on other stuff. Invest, take a hobby. You be the man that is busy getting better than the others so you can get a higher function. You be the man that works out after work and doesnt have time for bullshit aka them. You be the man that's on good terms with other men.

Women don't respect men that are nice to them all the time. They respect men that are better than them and couldn't care less.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Nah... Only try the usual to build friendship. I want good references (lol) for my next job. I never planned being here for long

I treat everybody the same. And say the same things.

Good job. Take care. If they're feeling bad. Heacaches or whatever. I relieve their work position for an easier one. EVERYBODY. Male and female

It's a college city and I work right in the heart of it. I know I offended one of the girls by saying that for ME university is a waste of time. She was noticeably pissed off.

I never guessed they gonna sink this low.

[–]cadaemos1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I personally prefer to get my references from men. Men in general are less jealous, more proffesional. And above all they are not controlled by emotion. Don't you notice that most women are always nice at work/college. That's just how they act. When they absolutely hate you, they will still act nice, but backstab you. I dont see most men doing such a thing in a workenvironment unless theyre desperate. If you need references, especially from women, then be as proffesional as possible. The fact that you evaluate gives you the ability to better yourself.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks man. Yeah absolutely.

Now I get it.

[–]noserotoninforu0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

feminism is cancer

[–]SoA_MC0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Could be cries for attention, it makes a girl look attractive and will garner sympathy from losers if she can say she was the victim of sexual harassment at work. Usually the girls self esteem is low if this is the case and you are just unlucky.

Or it could be pure narcissism, if she is attractive and she knows she is, but doesn’t find you attractive.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One is very narcissistic. But I haven't had enough time to really tell. But she has The air of "I'm better than you all"

The other two....one is fat and a nerd. And the other one studies gender sciences.

[–]RodDiddy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Ive worked with some of the same people for 20yrs. Cant remember the last time any of them touched me or me them. If youre going around regularly poking and proding people to get their attention...its invasive, and unnerving. Cut it out.

[–]RodDiddy-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

By the way, the chick who put your jacket in the refrigerator...wants dick. Feel free to poke her to get her attention. Yup. Its a topsy turvy world we're living in.

[–]Domebeers-1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy

There are women everywhere, I don't understand you guys who hit on women you work with. Are you that desperate? Again, there are women everywhere. Literally.

DO NOT HIT ON THE GIRLS YOU WORK WITH PERIOD. I don't care how highly you have misjudged your SMV.

If a girl you work with wants to fuck you, she will make the first move. If she isn't, she doesn't want to fuck you.

That said, this tale seems strange. If you get fired for sexual harassment they fire you, they don't let you linger for two weeks. What's the real story? Did you quit?

[–]legend503[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

You fucking dope. I don't flirt at work. Read the post.

I had a trial period. And they chose not to continued based on what they heard from them.

Even if I didn't have plates right now I'd never flirt with these girls.

[–]Domebeers1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Eh, I do hiring and firing at my firm. If you are getting fired in the trial period, it's because, sorry to break it to you hoss, you came off as weird. To the boss, to the coworkers, to both. Either that or you were extremely shitty at your job. I guess you'll have to decide which one it was for your own mental.

[–]legend503[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am weird.

I meet people's eyes when they talk to me. I ask when I don't know

I don't talk about how the latest crossword was over breakfast. I don't take stuff that's someone else's in the cafeteria

I have not been stuck at a job for 15 years.

Of course I'm weird for them.

But yeah. I don't belong there.

I really wish I could show you guys.

I would not believe this if I just read it.

I get the criticism I get.

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

So girls can fuck guys they work with if they want to BUT guys cannot flirt with girls they work with? Your bias and privilege is showing. And personally it seems even more desperate if a girl fucks a guy she works with LOL now that is despiration as women don’t need to put nearly as much effort into getting laid as men do.

[–]Domebeers0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Eh, I don't even know what this word soup means.

If you don't know there are double standards in the world, and especially in the professional world, I mean I don't know what to tell you. Maybe red pill isn't for you?

Do you get upset with gravity when you fall down? That's what this comes off at. You are mad that water is wet. Can't help with that.

Don't fuck women you work with. If you work at place with 1000 people and you are in different areas and all that, sure go ahead. But generally do not fuck the women you work with, don't even pursue them. There are women just as hot in the world who won't be such a risk.

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

But by all means if you’re a woman it’s all good? Do you realize how truly moronic you sound...nobody should ever have to fear losing everything just because of a little office romance, no matter what genitalia you have.

[–]Domebeers-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Gotta say man, it's becoming clearer and clearer why you got fired in the trial period.

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ummm...I’m not the OP here genius...😅😂 But I know enough to avoid women in my workplace unless I must interact with them professionally.

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[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Written up? No, two of the girls are best friends. One of the girls tried to make the boyfriend of my female friend cheat.

Literally what I wrote is what happened.

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[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Sorry. Different times

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[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I hadn't sent my paperwork to the union yet

[–]omega050 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea if you have a union then use them.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They said they see no future since we don't get along so well.

[–]jackandjill22-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn.

[–]jrterry1969-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is something of a legal question. The only negative employment action so far is your boss being told you called some girl cute. Could you be fired for allegedly saying that some girl was cute? Sure, you could be fired for anything, even a false allegation. I don't see any possible legal action against you for anything...but obviously you'd like a positive referral from this job in the future, but that isn't likely to make or break you either way.

I don't think you have done anything wrong, and I don't think anything bad will happen to you if you just go to work the next two weeks. I'd play it safe and not touch anyone unless you have to.

[–]bicureyooz-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have developed a habit of tapping people on their arm or shoulder to get their attention since in my previous work it was a really loud environment and it's an effective way or directing someone's focus back to you

You're an alpha and you're in control of what habits you want to learn and un-learn.

[–]legend503[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I never said anything different. I never thought it would cause a problem.

Yes I'll change that asap



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