Hamsters working overtime in r/Femaledatingstrategy.

DangZagnut · 2019-10-01T02:12:03+00:00

I know I’m not a scientist, but I’m pretty sure “balding” is genetic and, isn’t something that happens because you had too much beer.

Yep. Nothing but low value men. I agree. They shouldn’t date me. But somehow they just can’t stop pursuing the money. It’s like they’re addicted to the money.

Let me know when they start paying their own actual way in life.

But of course they won’t. In their entitled little minds they’re owed money. Their one true love.

No wonder they look like Smaug.

Good thing aging doesn’t affects the female dating strategy. Never lower those standards girls, keep reaching for the stars.

Captainbuttman · 2019-10-01T02:44:45+00:00

Let me sum it up for you.

No you!

The reason we talk about The Wall is that there is no other term to describe how quickly and how completely women transform from Goddesses to Goblins, which also coincides with lowering fertility. Them saying that is a myth is laughable.

And claiming that men experience the same thing is even more ridiculous. First of all everyone ages. The only change men experience that is close to that drastic is balding. Which isn't as bad as the whole package of female aging.

These women are angry that men's dating strategy is to go after women in their early 20's. While men's value only goes up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html

Just the title alone.

For Online Daters, Women Peak at 18 While Men Peak at 50, Study Finds

White_Mlungu_Capital · 2019-10-01T02:29:40+00:00

"The grapes are sour"

SylvestorTalone · 2019-10-01T02:34:55+00:00

The bit i found the funniest was her complete inability to understand that when we talk about the wall, out advice is to decide on a man early when you can afford to have high standards. An attractive woman in her peak fertility years can have any standards she wants. The point is, too many women spend so long basking in the ego gratification of having a myriad of options that they forgot to actually settle on one of those options, and before they know it, their options are drastically reduced.

The advice; get the guy you want while you are young and beautiful and have the most leverage to get the best one possible, should be blindingly obvious. The female mind is simply incabale of processing anything it doesn't like as anything but an attack.

Curgan1337 · 2019-10-01T02:23:50+00:00

We, as women, practice self-care in our appearance. We take meticulous care of our skin, hair, and bodies. We are careful about what we eat and we exercise regularly. Most of us have had skincare routines since we were in middle school. We have always managed to make time to take care of our appearance, even between our education, careers, and hobbies. That being said, at thirty and beyond all that hard work pays off big time for us.

True but the last point is highly debatable especially considering today's party girl lifestyles.

The average thirty-year-old male already has a receding hair line. His face has begun to bloat from the excessive alcohol usage and poor diet. A flat tire is already beginning to form around his mid-section. He has pre-mature wrinkles, sun damage, and uneven skin tone because he washes with Axe-3-In-1 Hair, Face, and Body Wash everyday and as never picked up a proper skincare product in his entire life. Throw in the erectile dysfunction from excessive pornography consumption throughout his youth?

Projection much? We get it, years of hard partying took a toll on you and porn is icky.

Not only do men hit the wall, but they hit the wall hard and fast because they have done the absolute bare minimum to take care of themselves their entire lives. The female "hitting-the-wall-at-thirty" propaganda, on the other hand, is an absolute myth. It's a lie they propagate to comfort themselves about being turned down by that twenty-something-year-old woman that is way too good for him. "Someday she'll be thirty and no one will want her," he says to comfort himself.

propaganda

I don't think that word means what you think it means...

Men will pursue a woman at any age. We need only to look to the older women in our lives to confirm this.

Certainly, never a shortage of thirsty simps but lets be real, those betas are not plan A or B they are plan W^{^{^all}} and you know it.

The reason men who brigade this sub like regurgitate that false folklore is simple.

They are low-value males. They feel threatened. They are offended and angry that you have standards. (Especially standards they cannot meet.)

Some are definitely insecure simps but most are just bored and tired of your thottery.

Males that propagate this myth want to grind you down.

Your fertility window is not a myth.

They want to make you afraid. If you fear "maxing out" at thirty you're less likely to have high standards and present yourself as high-value woman. You'll be more anxious and insecure, and thus more likely to settle down (literally, settle) for a male that has nothing to offer.

I'm sure PUAs do use dread game or whatever but most are just stating reality.

Why? Because you fear approaching this mythical wall. Take a closer look at the context in which these men bring up this argument.

Uhhhhhh menopause isn't a myth last I checked and neither is the increasing risk of pregnancy due to age but sure...run hamster run.

Example From a Previous Thread:

Woman discusses wanting men to pay for dinner. Male gets offended and threatened. Male tell her not to expect such treatment when she turns thirty.

Gold digger wants a free meal.

Man catches onto her bullshit.

Man welcomes her back to reality.

Now let's dissect this interaction:

Women sets out an expectation/standard for men in her life. Man reacts negatively because he is a low-value man who is threatened by a standard he cannot meet (monetary). He attempts to make her insecure to lower her standards.

Now lets perform some mental gymnastics:

Whore sets her price.

Intelligent guy knows the price of pussy ain't that high.

He mocks the thot.

Keep in mind that the men who propagate this myth are low-value. The type of men who brigade here (MGTOW, MensRights, Braincels) are low-value males. They have little to offer women and thus prey on women with low self-worth. They pursue women who have low standards and little self-respect. By implying that you will become worthless "post-wall", they are attempting to make you feel low-value. (If you feel low value, you're less likely to hold men to high standards.) These men are both lazy and entitled. They feel they should be able to sack a woman without in any real effort or investment. They don't want to have to prove they are worthy, likely because they are not.

A bunch of hamstering and stupid shit like suggesting MGTOW guys even give a fuck about their high mileage holes and somehow the evil bogeymen MRAs factor into this thottery. All while admitting they are golddigging whores, pay to play fellas.

Never abandon your standards, regardless of your age.

Invest in cat food and boxed wine, this will work out well. It certainly has historically here on this place called Earth...

Now that we've broken down this myth, remember never to abandon your standards. By internalizing this propaganda you will only put yourself at a disadvantage. The moment you stop loving and respecting yourself (by seeing yourself as approaching or past the mythical wall), you become insecure, needy, and seek male validation. You don't want that! You must always remember your worth. The wall does not exist. You are a high value woman who has a career, education, friends, hobbies, and you take care of your body. Your value is not tied to a number. You are allowed to have standards always.

Keep telling yourself the wall is a myth, denying reality has and will continue to be a good decision. Don't settle, adopt a few cats and pick up your benzo prescription.

Real men respect and want women with standards, boundaries, and self-respect.

Also women that aren't delusional but if you find one, capture her for science.

Typo-MAGAshiv · 2019-10-01T03:42:39+00:00

Yet i can blow up this dumb foids entire argument with 4 words:

Men date younger women.

If men hit the wall the same way women do, then they wouldn't be able to date younger women. These stupid wall-hitting roasties have no fucking clue what they're talking about.

Westernhagen · 2019-10-01T03:17:07+00:00

You can tell the difference between a 40 or 50 year old woman who has "taken care of herself" and one who hasn't. Doesn't alter the fact that they are 40 or 50, and they are manifestly far less hot than a 20 year old who is not even close to being the hottest 20 year old.

Verdict: The Wall Is Undefeated!

fea_ther · 2019-10-01T04:21:26+00:00

That post should be renamed as “How to become a successful cat lady”.

lurkerhasarisen · 2019-10-01T04:07:32+00:00

Wow... she's adorable!

I don't know where she lives, but if she thinks that women over 30 are slim, toned goddesses with perfecf skin (as if men cared about what over-priced slime they slather on), then she must live in a very insular bubble. Most American women are fat, and a large and increasing number are obese. And of course the numbers are higher in the older cohorts. The vast majority have also racked up an n-count that decent men find repellant, and have wasted their best man-catching years doing things that lower their value rather than raise it. Even for the tiny minority who do all the self-care she mentions - and avoid the worst of the self-sabotage she's curiously silent about - maybe one woman in a thousand is better at 35 than she was at 20.

Do men age? Well if course we do. And many get fat, although not as often as women do. When I was in my 20s I married a smart 20-year-old Midwestern virgin who had been a cheerleader in high school two years prior. No way could I do that now that I'm in my 50s... but if I were in the market today I could pretty easily get an attractive, well-educated, well-traveled, multilingual woman young enough to be my daughter just by going back to my old job overseas. I met some when I was living as an expat, and every one was superior to the author.

Among the many things she doesn't understand is that while she can find plenty of men willing to bed her, the ones willing to wed her are a very different lot. It's fine, though... shelters are filled with stray cats who need homes.

youngblue78 · 2019-10-01T02:06:52+00:00

Yikes females dare to go against basic genetics and science? They must really be delusional

EvilKlownz2 · 2019-10-01T02:06:04+00:00

There you have it in details folks. It's ok when they say it about us, but when we do, we are all worthless,bitter,etc. Sound familiar? When you replace women with men it's pretty much everything most of us say. She sound bitter herself after realizing she hit the wall and her much younger, better looking are taking over.

Spiderthing69 · 2019-10-01T03:18:06+00:00

Are they trying to fight basic science and deny the fertility window/ wall?

If you are still chasing Mr. Big after 30, you lost.

Eventually most men want to start a family, you can't do that with a woman that has lost her ability to have a baby.

Keep chasing that millionaire, vampire, pirate...

Chad1Stevens · 2019-10-01T04:28:15+00:00

>We practice self-care in our appearance. We take meticulous care of our skin, hair, and bodies. We are careful about what we eat and we exercise regularly. Most of us have had skincare routines since we were in middle school.

I've never heard so much bullshit in my life. If that were true, why do women resembled pot bellied stoves or refrigerators? They are lumpy, blobby, misshapen and then they want us to believe they put care into their appearance. As they get older they wrap themselves in shrouds and oversized sweaters to hide their blubber. They wear muumuus like no one notices they take the space of several people.

If they cared about their skin I wouldn't so so many women with moles, bumps, cysts and sunspots. As an experiment start counting the older (30+) women that have bumps on their faces. Look at cashiers, coworkers, your wife's friends, everyone. Once you start looking for it they are EVERYWHERE. That comes from years of hiding their real appearance in makeup. Their skin gets rough, clotted and leathery from the sun. That's the 'self-care' they talk about. That type of self care is the same as the morbidly obese finishing off the box of cupcakes rather than stress about overeating.

I couldn't read any farther. Holy fuck

coiluniverse · 2019-10-01T03:46:16+00:00

Put it this way women don't need dating advice unless its to rope in wallets.

Any woman who is decent looking and nice to be around can find a good man no problem.

Any woman who is over 30 and single and has no kids is an idiot and a loser. They are all deranged and stupid beyond reason.

houseoftolstoy · 2019-10-01T04:13:47+00:00

Doing this by direct comparison rather than by order alone:

We, as women, practice self-care in our appearance. We take meticulous care of our skin, hair, and bodies. We are careful about what we eat and we exercise regularly.

His face has begun to bloat from the excessive alcohol usage and poor diet. A flat tire is already beginning to form around his mid-section.

This data is about 4 years old, but I doubt that much has changed with the numbers. It shows that obesity rates are comparable for men and women, thought women have greater rates of obesity than men. I understand that you do not need to cite all your assertions for them to be true, but if it can be refuted with a simple search, you might want to reconsider your assertion.

Most of us have had skincare routines since we were in middle school.

He has pre-mature wrinkles, sun damage, and uneven skin tone because he washes with Axe-3-In-1 Hair, Face, and Body Wash everyday and as never picked up a proper skincare product in his entire life.

Taking pride in your skincare routines does not prove an advantage over men. Men do not have a great need for skincare products, as they are not teenagers anymore. Yeah teenagers have bad skin (both men and women) but if you are past the point of being a teenager as a man you should not have those issues. Men are not the ones that wake up feeling the need to cover up their faces with a number of products before going outside. In fact, I theorize that many women are in fact making their situation worse by overdoing their use of skincare products, thus creating the need to use skin products to counteract the previous harmful effects of the overuse of makeup. Granted, I do not have data and studies to back this hypothesis, so I am willing to be wrong if I can be disproven.

The-Beard-Wielder · 2019-10-01T08:00:56+00:00

The thing that seems to keep escaping women who think like this (as delusional as some of these thoughts are), is that the SMV og each sex is comprised of different characteristics.

You notice how the author brings up paying for dinner? That's because wealth is a major contributor to the perceived SMV of men. The opposite is far less true. Unless some fugo is dishing out Rolexes to their attractive male companions, guys couldn't care less if you can pay for dinner.

The author also seems to think (incorrectly IME) that women age just as gracefully as men. So physical attributes also make up a portion of perceived SMV (obviously so for men).

Again though, this is where a crucial divergence occurs. Physical attractiveness makes up the vast majority of what men want from female partners. And where, one might ask, can we find the most attractive physicality in humans? In youth, of course. So men's taste skew towards younger women due to the simple dynamic of wanting the most attractive mate.

Women, however, are attracted to physically appealing partners, yes, but also various status symbols such as power, wealth and prestige. All of these status markers (and more) are traditionally cumulative, and so will increase for men in time. Yes, we won't be as attractive as our 20 year old counterparts, but, as we've all seen, women will discard looks for amassed wealth, or men in positions of power. Older men can get younger women who are attracted to these elevated status markers; the same isn't really true for older women who attain these heights. Sure, women can get arm candy, sugar-baby male escorts if they're rich enough, or have kept it tight enough to warrant a pump and dump, bit they're not going to wife them up, and I guarantee these dudes have pieces their own age on the side. That's why we get a stream of surprised Pikachu faces when these women make partner at the firm, and then can't find 25 year olds that want to commit to their child-having, recently divorced asses.

And (aye) therein lies the rub. Men want attractive females. Women want attractive men ... Or men with money, or men with presitge, or men with power. That's why you can find older, less attractive dudes with trophy girls, and hardly ever see the reverse.

I hope it made the author feel better to write that though ... Cats and drug store Merlot can only do so much...

boisdevie · 2019-10-01T06:57:45+00:00

Losing your hair or being a certain height are things you have no control over so why do women think it's acceptable to shame men for this. Would they shame a blind person for being blind or a gay person for being gay? I think we all know the answer to that.

RRFdev · 2019-10-01T05:04:41+00:00

The average thirty-year-old male already has a receding hair line. His face has begun to bloat from the excessive alcohol usage and poor diet. A flat tire is already beginning to form around his mid-section. He has pre-mature wrinkles, sun damage, and uneven skin tone because he washes with Axe-3-In-1 Hair, Face, and Body Wash everyday and as never picked up a proper skincare product in his entire life. Throw in the erectile dysfunction from excessive pornography consumption throughout his youth?

I am sorry.....what?

Like begets like. Notice how she describes the males in her vision. It's like the healthy, happy, fit, gracefully aging males are completely invisible to her.

Yes, I apparently do have a receding hairline. Apparently the full tuff of blackness on my head is moss or some shit. Oh yeah, I eat junk food all day and drink wine non-stop just like these sluts.

I am 34. I love going outside and have people saying I look like I am in my early 20s, or even a teenager if I shave off my facial hair. I am blessed with graceful aging thanks to eating healthy, exercising regularly, avoiding excessive sun exposure, and most importantly..............

NOT SLEEPING AROUND.

You sluts can have your fill of your male counterparts. I am glad to forever be invisible under your radar. Good riddance.

inushishi_no_kaze · 2019-10-01T05:40:16+00:00

I call bullshit, just look at male actors compared to female ones.

Even worse for porn actresses, and since cock carousel is the trend the average women will look like this.

Cookiedoughjunkie · 2019-10-01T07:06:54+00:00

I love the comments.

They would be out there making money and they spoil their women like it’s not a big deal. Only broke men make a big deal out of paying on a date. They don’t have much, so of course they’re going to be stingy with their money.

Okay hunbun, we see your golddigger tendency here. "Real men know to spoil a woman. Doesn't mean I gotta do something to be WORTH spoiling."

WORTHLESS, LOW-VALUE MEN need to fuck off the face of this planet, I AM GLAD that 20% - 40% of them NEVER pass on their genes. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!

Except by most standards, these low value men have 'game' so they get like 5-10 women pregnant and bolt, and then you're still looking for someone else to pay for their kid and 'step up be a real man and pretend this kid is yours'.

yaaaaaaass!!! To the whole post. I'm 32 and have always been health and beauty conscious. I'm still pulling dates and dont settle for nothing. Now that I'm more matrue and dont settle anymore. I noticed that I am attracting the right type of men in my life and I'm loving it like a mcdonalds commercial. My dating life is better now in my 30's than in my 20's. I didn't hit the wall I crashed through that mofo!!

Attracting the right type of men? As in plural? So she's admitting to being an unfaithful gold digger. What is the right type of man? "Someone who'll buy me things and I give them nothing in return" Yeah okay.

some1arguewithme · 2019-10-01T13:05:06+00:00

every time you get a bunch of women together everything turns into lies. That whole sub is just absolute nonsense. The exact opposite of reality. Why do women have such a hard time having a relationship with the truth?

AshyBoneVR4 · 2019-10-01T07:19:13+00:00

It's amazing that the "Boys drool and girl rule" mentality caries over from the playground well into the thirties.

EDIT

Also, yes, it is VERY true that women's looks do cap off around 30. I'm 29 and the only time I ever feel old is when I'm on Tinder or something looking at women my age.

askmrcia · 2019-10-01T07:26:38+00:00

Why wasn't this subreddit banned?

Thetrvler · 2019-10-01T13:25:13+00:00

The funny part is this woman knows the reality of the situation. She just wrote this to keep pos women from killing themselves.

PolemosLogos · 2019-10-01T06:08:42+00:00

It's already been proven women peak at 20-22. Not to mention most of them already look 15 years older than they actually are, especially ones that post on Reddit.

thefilthyhermit · 2019-10-01T06:10:42+00:00

More hamsters than a God-damned Petsmart.

Cavannah · 2019-10-01T07:46:57+00:00

They clearly don't understand that stating facts based on and derived from observation of objective reality is not what determines objective reality.

If I state that "The weight of an object does not affect the rate at which it falls when dropped," that thing is not correct because I stated it; it is correct because the material and substance that is asserted is objectively true/evident/provable and independently and repeatedly verifiable as such.

This is how we quantify and qualify the world around us.

Only the ignorant and idiotic would tacitly assert that objective reality is determined by statements made about it.

In this case, that's exactly what these people are doing:

They refuse to acknowledge that their attractiveness (and thus SMV) peaks at 18-22
The refuse to acknowledge that they are a depreciating asset as a result of the former
They claim that their beauty and fertility do not decrease with time
When confronted with the former, they simultaneously strawman and ad hominem a mental stereotyped caricature bogeyman and scream at the clouds that the world is incorrect

They've backed themselves so thoroughly into a corner with cognitive dissonance that they are in fact stating that objective reality does not exist.

Sod_Off_Shotgun · 2019-10-01T03:32:41+00:00

"no u!"

Uqtpa · 2019-10-01T11:58:08+00:00

This is just another reason why men should shame women for their stretch marks, cellulite, hairline, uneven and saggy tits, ugly/asymmetrical/discolored labia and clitoral hood, body hair, overweight etc.

Those hypocritical and retarded cunts will never learn.

Dinomiteblast · 2019-10-01T12:27:54+00:00

Put me next to a 25 year old and i look like her younger peer. Even though im 31. I lift, dont care for my skincare and whatever. Dont drink. Eat healthy and work outside more than i am inside. Still. Babyface. What i dont have is stress from a nagging girlfriend.

TomahawkSuppository · 2019-10-01T20:14:05+00:00

Hahaha, the male wall. Meanwhile women 30+ continue to complain about

Feeling invisible to men their age
Not getting as many matches on OLD
Men their age preferring younger women.

aussielander · 2019-10-01T08:52:46+00:00

Men only hit a wall if they have only their looks to trade on.

512165381 · 2019-10-01T10:38:38+00:00

The male wall: Charlie Chaplin has a kid in his seventies and Rupert Murdoch in his 80s.

rationalthought314 · 2019-10-01T14:46:40+00:00

The projection is off the proverbial hook. She acts like women don't have drinking and drug problems (for the most part many of them get both for free whereas men have to pay for them). A lot of young girls ruin their looks early on with excessive partying and all-nighters something a lot of guys can't do because again they usually have to pay for it. I knew girls who had crow's feet in college from their lifestyle choices.

I get the feeling this writer is right around 30 and dealing (or rather not dealing) with the realization of her age. She hasn't seen like a lot of older guys have their high school and university sweethearts and crushes hitting the Wall hard. And what she doesn't realize or refuses to acknowledge is that a lot of this stuff - red pill, the wall, mgtow, whereallthegoodmen, etc - is a reaction to reality which flies in the face of the blue pill fantasy we were fed while growing up. It's not like a bunch of men just decided to invent the Wall as some form of compensation. It's observation.

Furi0usxStylez · 2019-10-01T19:05:52+00:00

Lol these ladies with "standards" forget that the men they want have standards of their own. You want Ryan Gosling to bring everything he has to offer but none of you offer nothing in return. These men can find pussy anywhere. Why would they settle for you? Seriously.

ugluk1 · 2019-10-01T06:04:38+00:00

They are hunting for resources until old age stops them and it pisses them off. But they are headed to the coffin, like it or not.

Cristoff13 · 2019-10-01T06:13:11+00:00

Is that post, and the whole reddit it comes from, serious or joking? Although I have read serious arguments from women who will say "sure female fertility declines with age, but so does male fertility." They miss the obvious the male fertility declines at a much slower rate than female's.

RedPill-BlackLotus · 2019-10-01T12:21:47+00:00

42 and bald, eat it bitch

some1arguewithme · 2019-10-01T13:04:16+00:00

I don't know how this happens I don't understand it at all but it seems to me that every time a community becomes all female everything just goes ass backwards. Like everything that gets posted on that sub is the exact opposite of reality I don't get it.

these women are saying the wall doesn't exist for women and that men hit the wall is this some kind of parody? are there women on this sub who actually believe it or is this a bunch of feminists trying to gaslight by recreating the manosphere with genders reversed?

Your_Coke_Dealer · 2019-10-01T13:30:16+00:00

You know what makes men age like shit, aside from the genetic cases she mentioned? Women.

You don’t see party-animal men looking like shit at 30 like party-animal women. You do see married men, especially with kids, losing their physique and appearing exhausted though.

hillbilly_mgtow · 2019-10-01T14:22:22+00:00

Are these bitches for real? This is the hardest case of projection I’ve ever seen. Damn I honestly want to know what goes through a woman’s mind. fucking crazy

batfish55 · 2019-10-01T08:05:04+00:00

Wow. The hamster is strong in this one.

The biggest flaw in her argument is that she's applying female standards to men. Unless you're a 1 or a 10, if you have game, it really doesn't matter what you look like.

But that's fine, she can bemoan this MGTOW as low value, that's fine. IDGAF what she thinks. Imma continue to pursue my career, make more money, do what I want when I want, and not burden myself down with a female.

StrongAffordance · 2019-10-01T20:59:37+00:00

All of this over paying for dinner. Damn.

mimitchi86 · 2019-10-02T05:20:19+00:00

The wall does not exist. You are a high value woman who has a career, education, friends, hobbies, and you take care of your body. Your value is not tied to a number. You are allowed to have standards always.

Sure it is. And I'm not saying an older woman can't have value; I'm saying that a younger woman almost always has more, even just from a biological perspective. I think my wife is still pretty, and she's held up great after nearly a decade of marriage and two kids. But if I could trade her in for the 20-year-old version that I married and enjoy her prime all over again, I wouldn't think twice about it. Not because she doesn't have value today, but because she had more when she was younger.

Should all older women automatically be written off solely because of their age? I'll be nice and say no, because I've known a few who still found great fits relationship-wise in their mid-30s. But 1) they had never been married previously, 2) they didn't have kids, 3) they weren't selfish man-hating harpies, and 4) they hitched their wagons to their husbands with the understanding that the men already had their lives on a given path and they (the women) were submitting themselves to just be along for the ride. How many women like that are out there, realistically? And even then, how many would men prefer over their younger selves, given the choice?

These wall-denying women with careers, education, hobbies, etc. can consider themselves higher value and have all the standards they want, but as always, something is ultimately only worth what the buyer is willing to pay for it.

blacktortoise69 · 2019-10-02T12:56:09+00:00

I started laughing at EXERCISE REGULARLY.

That's only the top 10%... the average female slams the wall at 25 and never loses that extra weight. Often, she continues to slowly gain. Then wakes up and wonders why she's 200 instead of 115 at 5'3.

Go to the gym. Especially at weird hours like 1am. All men.

White_Mlungu_Capital · 2019-10-01T16:21:55+00:00

A man hitting the wall in looks will have no effect on his ability to attract women, ever seen Tyler from RSD? He is fat, with long hair and fits the description of "post male wall" she described and he is probably getting more gorgeous women than 99% of the male population. Women do not sleep with men generally for their looks. I know many good looking guys, many are models, the good looks will get high initial interest,but you won't even be closing the deal with girls unless you sleep with girls far below your smv. It is like 85% personality, words, etc, looks matter very little. But if she finds a man who has equal personality and better looks, then she is gone.

SimpyMcSimpface · 2019-10-01T19:39:43+00:00

that is some next level jedi-mind shit

but the regular daily experience of MGTOWs refutes this completely. I dont take care of myself and it's true that I'm getting fatter and balder, but women (who are getting increasingly desperate after age 30) throw themselves at me 5x as much as when I (and they) were 20.

SuperGoxxer · 2019-10-02T04:21:31+00:00

For me, "The Wall" is pretty easy to see.

Its that girl you thought was hot, and now in the ever-ticking interval after 30 years old (some even younger) you just see the ephemeral qualities that coalesced into "hot" aren't there anymore.

It isn't just the skin, or makeup or hair.

You just look at her and think "damn, she USED to be hot". And that invisible line should TERRIFY these women into using their youth properly -- but as you know they only see it as the green light to go full whore ahead until its too late.

There was this girl I ran into many times, always thought she had some kind of "glow" or the inherent stirring qualities of being "hot". She recently turned 28 I think, and I saw her again in a similar outfit -- and it was all gone.

Something had just left her and she wasn't even aware of it.

This is the skill men possess, and women have zero conception or ability to spot it.

VartoLuOP · 2019-10-02T05:00:37+00:00

One thing they got wrong: it's not only the men's physical appearance that makes them attractive, the ability to provide(money/status etc) also is a factor. Their standards are essentially going to price themselves out of the dating market.

One thing they got right : women should stop hoeing around lmao

Sake99 · 2019-10-02T07:47:55+00:00

There are several older guys who married significantly younger women but no younger guy married an older woman.

DoesItMatterTooYou · 2019-10-02T11:48:06+00:00

Women wall. Men wake. Women are desperate to deny and delay the wall. Men desperately need to awaken. Women run away. Men (should) run toward enlightenment.

MDMantis-Toboggan · 2019-10-02T14:46:31+00:00

This whole thread is an exercise in "Here copy my homework but try not to make it look the same" so they just crossed out the "wo" in "women". Never let chicks copy your homework.

[deleted] · 2019-10-02T18:37:34+00:00

lol the Male Wall aka UNEMPLOYMENT!?

SamsAdvice · 2019-10-03T15:52:09+00:00

31 years old.

Zero balding. (My father, both grandfathers, and all 8 blood uncles have hair)
I've cut out alcohol, I eat healthy, I've had zero cavities in the past 3 years,
My face has less bloat than prior years due to dieting, less facial fat/water retention
I have a six pack year round
I get told I look ~25 years old regularly.
I can give a good proper dicking to any attractive girl. But I definitely do have erectile dysfunction when I don't find her attractive....but lets blame the porn and not her being unattractive.

Some of the worst skin I've seen has been on women around 30 years old, tanning too much, skin wrinkly from sun damage, using too much make up over the years. Skin isn't a gender thing. If you don't take care of it, it'll get damaged quicker. Alcohol isn't a gender thing, if you drink too much, its unhealthy for you. Diet isn't a gender thing, if you eat shitty, it'll show. Now look at statistics, there's a higher percentage of women who are overweight than men. Not by much, a few percent, but it is higher.....

SupGirluHungry · 2019-10-01T06:29:16+00:00

Love that subs rules, bros

Daffan · 2019-10-01T11:14:51+00:00

The wall is a wall because fertility too. They can't beat that.

gprime · 2019-10-01T11:21:16+00:00

I wonder about the composition of that sub. I'd like to know how many actual contributors there are, as opposed to sock puppets to make their voices sound more numerous than they actually are. I'd further like to know what percentage of these women are obese cat ladies LARPing as successful/desirable women with their pick of men, so that they feel better about themselves. Of the remotely attractive ones, which I assume must exist given the number of crazy women that are physically attractive, I wonder how many get past a first or second date. I very much doubt they're able to hide their terrible personalities for too long. It's easy enough for them to sample assorted cock and get free dinners in their 20s, but what happens once their biological clock starts ticking and they can't land a third date, let alone a husband? I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the therapy sessions where they cry about it.

KavaNotGuilty · 2019-10-01T16:00:36+00:00

Working link?

askmrcia · 2019-10-01T20:43:56+00:00

Men will pursue a woman at any age. We need only to look to the older women in our lives to confirm this.

For sex not commitment.

[deleted] · 2019-10-03T19:41:58+00:00

I don't understand, what is this hamster reference?

ntvirtue · 2019-10-03T19:54:40+00:00

ROFL

dpucz2453 · 2019-10-13T10:22:53+00:00

If she really believed what she wrote would she have taken to time and effort to write the article ?

BenGasEmGarrison · 2019-10-01T21:57:12+00:00

Well she isn't wrong. I'd say mid 20s is more accurate.

Hamsters working overtime in r/Femaledatingstrategy.

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Title	Hamsters working overtime in r/Femaledatingstrategy.
Author	Curgan1337
Upvotes	283
Comments	166
Date	October 1, 2019 1:58 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
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