Does Anyone else just want to Drop Out of Society altogether?

ghostbc-fan-1990 · 2020-03-05T13:41:18+00:00

We live in a society

HWGA_Gallifrey · 2020-03-05T15:20:14+00:00

"I got u fam." -Coronavirus

sapereAudeAndStuff · 2020-03-05T16:03:46+00:00

Dont drop out, but live in the margins.

Simps and women have made a society where it's very easy to get paid for very little, especially if you have some useful skills. Go to work, be a lazy sob who does just slightly more than the other lazy sobs and spend your free time doing what you enjoy with the I'll gotten gains.

Proof-System · 2020-03-05T13:47:22+00:00

There are productive ways to drop out of society. Go live in South East Asia for example, while starting an online business. You can live life your own way there. It won't be easy, but you won't be dealing with entitled western women, hr departments, or bosses getting rich from your labor.

Oatmeal_or_Porridge · 2020-03-05T14:07:22+00:00

What purpose does modern living even have?

This is why men choose a craft and become ever expert at it.

Like in a airplane, put your oxygen mask on before helping anyone else.

Put yourself first... then you can help others after you are set.

RunawayGrain · 2020-03-05T16:04:09+00:00

A great way of summing it up is that guys are starting to ask "What's in it for me?"

Maximedius · 2020-03-05T16:51:53+00:00

As men we are expected to work to death so that we can provide for our families while receiving zero gratitude in return.

Yep.

Chasing career and success means you will spend the next 20+ best years of your life working your butt of so that your trust fund boss and his insta thot girlfriend can lay in a beach.

Yep.

Glad you figured it out early.

mgt0wbro · 2020-03-05T14:04:09+00:00

My goal is to work for some 10-15 years and retire early by making some self-sufficient off-grid homestead out in the sticks. I'll still be busy but it will be much more rewarding work.

TheOnlyThing-Sufjan · 2020-03-05T14:18:39+00:00

Yes I feel like this sometime, but I also know society has its benefits. Its very easy to get food from nearby stores or order stuff online. Its very nice to have entertainment whenever you want online. Its easy to go out and watch cool shows or go to concerts. True alot of societal norms are eating away at alot of people, but I tend to just ignore it. If you notice someone want to push their morality on you just smile and move on. I think indifference is key. And true instagram girlfriends and boses who do not do shit but still earn money suck, but remember its not necessarily the money you have but what you can get with it. I do not make alot of money but still have alot of cool stuff and relaxed life style I'm happy with. I aslo know guys who earn more then me and they need to perform tricks whenever just to keep their lives a float.

One thing that helps me is saving a bit of money (i have around 10k saved now, not alot but sitll). Knowing this if Í just want everybody to fuck off for awhile I could quit my job and travel for awhile, or do other stuff. Basically your still quite free to do in this society what you want, only you need to walk in the shadows of indifference. Let the idiots destroy eachother with their needs and expectations, at the end of the day if you can go into nature and just relax while others are busy with their girlfriends and their babies or they need to go on another trip, I guess I know who I would rather be.

HydarnesCCC · 2020-03-05T17:13:56+00:00

In my 20s as well. You are now staring at oblivion. Please do not slip into nihilism. Try at least.

Someone has already mentioned this, but you don't need to work that hard anymore. Just do a bit more than the bare minimum and you'll get paid because that's what women do. Let them fight over promotions and extra raises. Your island with a population of just you is low maintenance. Also you can TREAT yourself because you're saving so much in not spending on a wedding, ridiculous house, and possible divorce settlements. My point is you're winning in the long run. It won't seem like it but who gives a fuck what it seems like?

You sound like a guy that doesn't need much. Well... No need to make 200k... 50k is outstanding especially if you're debt free. Live for yourself. Keep your money for yourself.

Carry on.

SingleManDR · 2020-03-05T16:40:21+00:00

I did. I live in the Caribbean, work online and bang dusky 18 year old whores when the mood strikes for $50. This is a life that is open to you all. It has its weird moments, but it's pretty much everything I hoped it would be. Do it!

CeleritySteam · 2020-03-05T18:42:08+00:00

This world offers men nothing except for bread and circuses. You can get bread and circuses without much time and effort. So we're back in the hunter and gatherer days where minimal effort sustains yourself and more is actively counterproductive, albeit for a different reason. Doing more than that just subsidizes thots even by proxy.

TimJohnsonIII · 2020-03-05T19:50:44+00:00

Personally, I avoided women, searched carefully for and aquired a degree in a highly lucrative field, saved rather than spent my income and retired after 20 years working for the same company. I have a ton of money, no women, don't do schitt all day but play and have a life billions would trade their own lives for in an instant. That, sir, is my recommendation for you. Yes, I am happy without a woman in my life. Follow my plan and you too will rock as I do.

Dorgdorg · 2020-03-05T14:51:16+00:00

Similar age, what I think is you don’t have to physically move away from society to check out from it. Where there are people, there is money. Figure out a way to be self employed, after all we do live during a “Gig” economy. Chase FIRE retirement. Maybe check out Workaway if you want to get some distance from your life and get perspective, I know it helped me figure things out.

ThePlague · 2020-03-05T17:25:59+00:00

All interactions are transactional: I do this, get that. Someone does this for me, I give them that. The key is evaluating whether the transactions you are engaging are actually "good deals" or not, rather than just coasting because they're setup as recurring. That could be a job, a relationship, or where you stop for coffee in the morning. Constant evaluation and re-evaluation should be the rule.

"Society" is just a convenient fiction, or statistical aggregate, of the trillions of such transactions that occur each day. If you don't like the mean for a particular curve, don't make that transaction unless you can get a couple sigma in the direction you like.

AlphaOmegaIXXI · 2020-03-05T17:58:15+00:00

Hell no. If MGTOW has taught me anything, it is that outside influence doesn't impact the reality I live in or the happiness I hold. I hike, bike, practice karate and so many other things. I don't let women or the state of the world effect this monk's journey.

2020-03-05T18:20:44+00:00

You have recognised the futility of it all at the right time. Some don't realise this until they are 35+ and already have tons of responsibilities. They then feel trapped and well, things get bad.

Create your own meaning to your life and ignore the BS. It's easy to become negative in this world, don't succumb to it and don't let other people push you toward it.

Lombardist · 2020-03-05T15:04:26+00:00

Don’t work for gratitude. Don’t exert effort so that you can judge yourself by the utility that you have for others. Find a way to do the things required to flourish in a way that brings you joy regardless of what others outside your particular system think. If your system (with the people in it) isn’t compatible with such joy, invent a new one (with a new sphere of people.) It’s possible.

HydarnesCCC · 2020-03-05T17:44:12+00:00

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Launch_Day_My_Dudes · 2020-03-05T17:33:34+00:00

Chasing career and success means you will spend the next 20+ best years of your life working your butt of so that your trust fund boss and his insta thot girlfriend can lay in a beach.

That’s what weekends are for. I work to have money to spend on things I enjoy, be they weights, books, travel, model airplanes, dance lessons, whatever.

We live in the richest time in human history. Enjoy the prosperity while it lasts. If there is a communist revolution, we’ll be poor due to mismanagement by incompetent administrators soon. If there’s a tradcuck backlash, you’ll have to support a nagging THOT who pretends to do ‘housework’ while you slave away.

Wisdom_of_a_Khan · 2020-03-05T20:44:31+00:00

Yes, I very often day dream about disappearing.

No notice, don't tell anybody i'm leaving just one day go completely missing, Leave a note in your house telling everyone you know goodbye, tell them that you decided you were sick of the daily bullshit and you're heading up to some mountain to spend the rest of your days meditating and living off the land. Give your possessions to some of the young guys in your family, or to charity or something.

That's my daydream of it, in reality there's very few places you can go do this, and it's not an easy life. Some of the things about it would be badass though, Never again let the government harvest taxes off me, never again spend hours doing some annoying soul destroying paperwork, Packing up and heading into some secluded forest Canada or Alaska would be the ultimate middle finger everyone that deserves it.

randomfallout76rant · 2020-03-05T17:54:48+00:00

I've been saying this for a couple weeks I found somewhere inmontana its 16,000 acres of land for 6 million I just need like 99 more people to form a small town.

Malbek604 · 2020-03-05T19:23:38+00:00

I work enough to live comfortably, try to maximize income through passive streams and do what I like. I intend to move away from the overpriced urban area I'm in as I want some property and privacy.

2020-03-05T19:53:07+00:00

Drop out altogether? No. Get further away from the cities and crowds. Yes. I looked into being a lighthouse keeper for a while. Turns out it doesn't pay much. Also looked into working in Antarctica but I doubt I have the skill-set required for that. Now I keep an eye out for jobs in remote locations, but they're few and far between.

2020-03-05T14:23:49+00:00

I already did lol, what little I have to do with it now is to ensure my own comfort and nothing more.

KUL-DANK · 2020-03-05T17:48:35+00:00

yep, i also want to get out of this so called "modern world"

so what i do is spend as much of my money on cryptocurrency, i think has lots of potential

the next bitcoin halving is going to happen this june, so be prepared, the markets can shoot up like in 2017

TigPlaze · 2020-03-05T19:30:38+00:00

Yes. I would love to get the bucks together to buy some land in the woods near a lake and build a cabin to live in. If I could meet my needs, I would live there and just read, hike, fish, and write a book on a manual typewriter with no TV or Internet. I'd rather be a hermit and live my own way, flipping off all of society.

KingOfYaks · 2020-03-05T20:14:06+00:00

I live in Central Utah in red-rock country. My little farm's mortgage is 315/mo and I have fiber optic broadband right to my router. I hike for fun, ride a bicycle, and drive my little sports car on the fast desert highways. My horses are retired so I need to get a young one. Hm. In a few weeks I'm doing some canyoneering. But anyhow, I easily can go a month between trips to the 'big city' to get this or that. It always hurts my neck staring up at the 2 story buildings there. I dont interact with anyone if I don't want to. So there are places that arent in asia that you can retreat to. From my fortress of ultimate paranoia, I can watch the world burn. Live where you play. Live where you play. Live where you play.

Equivalent-Craft · 2020-03-05T20:49:44+00:00

Yes very robotic. Work eat sleep consume watch television buy what we tell you to. Taxes save for retirement die...hooefully somewhere in there you dont forget to enjoy life...

Morb357 · 2020-03-05T22:20:37+00:00

I hate society. I doubt you can just drop out unless you are wealthy which I doubt I'll ever be. I'm just waiting for death, that's a sure out.

SilentGaze1 · 2020-03-05T22:23:02+00:00

Life today sucks hard. Only duties everywhere and no rewards. Your whole life is only work for the lowest wage if you find work at all.. Fuck this. Stay at home and play games.

2020-03-05T22:46:14+00:00

Yep working on learning about permaculture, homestead revenue streams and learning how to lay floor boards/ build a home. Plan is to buy 8-20ha parcel of land in Tasmania, build a 100 square meter cabin, Airbnb for glamping where the food comes from my closed loop cycle, sell produce at farmer markets once a month, run a YouTube channel. In Tassie there are plenty of deer to hunt, and you can see the northern lights.

BlastRadius115 · 2020-03-06T02:22:09+00:00

There is no meaning except that which you create for yourself.

humunguswot_1 · 2020-03-05T17:45:47+00:00

If I didn't have young kids, I would buy a camper van and move to the mountains.

femabuse · 2020-03-05T18:20:36+00:00

The cave in the hills always is appealing. The quiet, the solitude, the providing for and worrying about no one but yourself.

Gwhiz420 · 2020-03-05T19:29:13+00:00

Chris McCandless - into the wild, he has the right idea

PolukranosWordEater · 2020-03-05T19:32:34+00:00

Hell what I did was go backpacking and live out of a tent. No rent, utilities, anything. Go to a town, work for a few months and then coast on by. Save up enough to replace broken gear and things and for food.

WanderlustYouth · 2020-03-05T21:27:23+00:00

24 year old here, I honestly want to pack up my shit, but a plot of land in bumfuck nowhere, set up a few solar arrays and live a life of relative peace away from others. People like to force down the narrative that you need people in your life to not go crazy, but i've found it to be the complete opposite for me

ghostcel2018 · 2020-03-05T22:02:06+00:00

Just religionmax and monkmax bro :)

Chakra_Devourer · 2020-03-05T23:45:20+00:00

At this point, I don't care if they show gratitude or whatever. It's just not worth it at all.

you're right about that. if you have the option to opt the fuck out, then do so.

sensitivechad · 2020-03-05T23:46:51+00:00

In short, yes. I have to be in touch with society to a degree because I have bills to pay, but I involve myself as little as possible in the "struggles" of the modern world.

bpdloveoflife · 2020-03-06T00:26:54+00:00

Dude, why do you think so many young men are dropping out of society altogether these days? This is the truth. The only thing men had to look forward hystorically (and evolutionarily) was to start a family, provide the heck out for them, making all the dreams of their wives and kids come true, and enjoy the final days feeling satisfied and content.

When you know that the last bit may never happen, there is nothing to look forward to.

My advice to you and everyone else feeling this way - take it as a challenge. See how much you can get out of society instead of the society get away with this crap. You know the truth, you have the right mindset, use society to the extent its useful to you and enjoy your life on your own terms.

If you can slog for a few years until you can manage to work yourself - however you can, and even for lesser monetary gains - you can truly enjoy your life on your own terms.

PhilTony · 2020-03-06T00:27:01+00:00

Personal financial planning is 80% planning for your wife/kids (big house, education, care etc) but the modern successful man is incompatible with a modern 2020 woman. So turn that 80% into 0% and put 100% of your success and wealth into yourself, your interests, your hobbies, your travel, health, early retirement, relocating, etc. List goes on and on. This is the only way it works at the moment.

mvlock · 2020-03-06T00:59:11+00:00

duno how to put it

but i enjoy to same extent this chaos and randomness

cos its means we are totally freed from any idea or believes

and we can choose what we want to do with our life

but then its doesn't mean anything so any path u go its great

no god is here to tell u whats wrong or whats right

cos everything is a joke( Honk ) and doesnt mean anything

like judge can make bad ruling for man and good

ruling for woman without any logic involved

so our "best" system of logic is crap

what's left ? lol

or the "not choosing path"

let the randomness surprise us :)

gsharm · 2020-03-06T01:05:44+00:00

You only have to work enough to live to your means. That means if you can live for $20k/year and can save $60k/year, just work 5 years and then you have $300k+ sitting there generating, say, $30k/yr interest in Vanguard, or a small property which eliminates the need to pay rent/mortgage.

At that point you can take occasional small jobs if you want to, without needing too (check out Lean/BaristaFIRE), and mainly just pursue your true interests and hobbies (and find new ones, and make real friends along the way).

Being MGTOW means you can live very cheaply. Most expensive stuff is trash anyway. I don't envy the rich at all.

This life is more about gracefully breaking out of the cell than plating it with gold. Our mind's aggregation of delusions is the cell. That's why Shawshank is one of the greatest movies ever. Art really does imitate life.

show-me-the-numbers · 2020-03-06T01:23:08+00:00

I dropped out of society in my 20s. My uncle owned a large remote ranch and let me move there. After a few years I got bored and came back. Before I moved there, I was a feeling man, and life was mostly tragedy. The solitude hardened me, and since my return, life has been a comedy. But yes, recommended.

Alinitysdog · 2020-03-06T01:26:23+00:00

Shiiiiiit. I'm still chasing checks, society can kiss my ass for all I care.

NeverGonnaEnd · 2020-03-06T01:33:12+00:00

The point is to further yourself. Bosses are going to get rich no matter what and that's a fact. Unless you're the boss, you're not going to be in as good of a position as they are. There's a point to becoming more self-sufficient for yourself to make life less of a struggle. I agree that modern life is perhaps worse off than 60+ years ago, but in 2020 we have more options than ever before.

I wouldn't suggest dropping out of society all together, but I would suggest this: Create a life for yourself that helps you forget the bullshit of society. For example, people in Alaska tend to hunt, fish, and farm to meet their food demands. This is an alternative to grocery shopping, and dealing with all the bs that comes with living in a major city.

Men are expected to work to death only if you allow them to treat you in such a way, and allow yourself to be treated in that way. It all comes down to personal independence on varying levels. Making yourself sufficient as opposed to letting modern life cloud your living is the goal.

I know i'm speaking in vague terms here.

All i'm saying is, find your own self worth, for me I could care less what others think or expect of me. I only care that i'm successful in the grand scheme of things because my life and time matters the most to me.

Many of the great inventors and people of this world have secluded themselves at one point or another in order to have the open space to create their Magnum opus. Your Magnum opus is your life. Playing by the rules will leave you with nothing but regret, and wishing to have done things differently.

Gn0meRat · 2020-03-06T04:54:29+00:00

Spend 20 years preparing for a midlife crisis. When the time comes to finally have a midlife crisis, you don't. You just go on a really long vacation.

(told to the interviewer in response to that large gap in employment)

Metalcrazyx · 2020-03-06T09:14:36+00:00

"What purpose does modern living even have?"

Life has no purpose. We are just little planktons in the ocean of the universe.

Life has never been better, if you got a little intelligence, and born to a western country. In the past, Men used to die young to tribal wars, famine, and disease. I'm very grateful to be alive today

juancee22 · 2020-03-06T10:50:09+00:00

Find something that you like to work. Try to avoid hobbies that you love, as you will get tired of it eventually.

You still can have personal goals, friends, family, meaning, without a lady on your side. But you have to participate in some of those points to avoid going crazy and depressed.

https://youtu.be/YFeIRVueNRM

ZetaOmega8210 · 2020-03-07T21:43:32+00:00

Work enough to afford your self a comfortable life and NO MORE than that.

AndyTravelGuy314 · 2020-03-05T13:41:06+00:00

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RedPillMissionary · 2020-03-05T22:13:26+00:00

I've enjoyed very much my career and working. It's what we evolved to do. I still have had plenty of time to learn 2 foreign languages and 4 musical instruments in the last 15 years in the work force.

If it all seems meaningless, it's because the foundational metaphysics and 'telos' that helped motive western society have been taken from us. I'm referring to christianity and family. It's tough to find meaning without religion or family. Atheists might say 'you are the culmination of 4 billion years of evolution, the most advanced species in a hundred light years!' Maybe that will cheer you up. For most people, it probably doesn't. So they end up in a hamsterwheel of 'just find what you love, man!' That only works temporarily, since love is a feeling.

You have to decide what your metaphysical beliefs are, and what that means for your purpose on this planet. If the answer is 'nothing' on both counts, then of course work will seem like a waste of time. Everything will seem like a waste of time.

gemaliasthe1st · 2020-03-05T15:11:40+00:00

You think you can get an insta Thot? Lol

Title	Does Anyone else just want to Drop Out of Society altogether?
Author	AndyTravelGuy314
Upvotes	381
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Date	March 5, 2020 1:39 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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