On Female Consequences and Ditching Your Revenge Porn Fantasies

T0000009 · 2015-11-02T21:14:09+00:00

She’s gonna get her Beta. Just be glad that now it won’t be you.

That's the real prize when you play the long game, NOT being stuck on her plantation as a lowly plow horse.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2015-11-02T20:58:31+00:00

While not popular as an opera plot, "Living Well" really is the best revenge.

As and Old Guy, my advice to young RPillers is:

The world isn't fair. Tough. Improve yourself, and think horizontally not vertically. Do not waste your time on girls who want validation, or to waste your time, or who can't get their heads out of their asses. Time is a great leveler. Some girls will get their BB and others won't. They wake up at 35 and wonder why no one will marry them.

You, however, young prince, must make your own way in the world. Lift. Learn Game. Build your SMV. Live your life for YOU. When you are older and successful and have lived your life your way, enjoy the fruits of your own labors. They're making new 22 y.o. girls every year. I'm 48. The girls who wouldn't give me the time of day way back when? I don't even allow them in line, now. I bang young, attractive women, and you can to. Work on yourself. Become exceptional. Then Rule Your Own Life.

EDIT: I suck at formatting.

OmLaLa · 2015-11-02T21:11:43+00:00

Over-investment into the downfall of exes and using newfound RP enlightenment of women's true nature as some sort of "weapon" to be wielded against the feminine populace are two of the biggest frame-destructive reoccurances I've seen on TRP thus far.

Newly Enlightened Alphas usually do so well up until the point where they begin to see genuine, positive results i.e. when they begin receiving multiple IOIs from a variety of women.

And once they've reached this point, they'll typically scoop up all the IOIs they've garnered, put them in a little bucket, skip down to Lil' Sally's place -i.e. that mean ol' girl who inadvertently led them down the path of RP enlightenment-, then proceed to dump the contents at her feet and proudly proclaim, "Look how Alpha I am!"

Unfortunately for them, perception is collectively garnered and not circumstantially so.

Lil' Sally may notice the great strides of improvement this shiny new Enlightened Alpha has made. She might even be impressed by them.

And yet, the Enlightened Alpha's Beta past is not lost on her.

Women judge SMV based upon the good traits AND the bad traits they've perceived within the individual in question. She'll recall every beta trait this Enlightened Alpha has ever portrayed and will constantly hold them against him, no matter the improvements he's currently displaying.

Past posts have mentioned that even if a fat woman loses all of the extra weight (in turn becoming attractive), her self control still comes into question.

And Why? Because we've perceived her "fat-state" as her normative state; she's been fat longer than she's been attractive, so reversion back to her normative state is highly likely.

In most cases, people will eventually resort back to what they're accustomed to/how they normally are due to an inherent longing for familiarity and complacency.

It's through these same lenses that she'll base her perceptions of the Newly Enlightened Alpha's shiny new coat of paint: as both temporal and thin.

To her, whether it's true or not is irrelevant; she's constantly remnant on the rusty-scarred coat of paint beneath that bright red exterior.

What's more, not only is trying to demonstrate "how Alpha you've become" or attempting to invoke some sense of lust into women who've previously seen you unfavorably not worth your time, it's futile to it's very core.

The very attempt of pursuing revenge is a counter-balance against the basis of being an Alpha.

An Alpha wouldn't concern himself with her or their past experiences together, so any outright attempt at "rekindling" or readdressing said past would be perceived by her as a "non-Alpha" characteristic.

Not only that, some women will never see you as the Alpha you are. My roommate from college is a professional lawyer, and yet I'll always see him as the stoner who slept through half his classes.

Perception trumps all when it comes to the bases/influences towards individualistic opinion.

bsutansalt · 2015-11-02T22:54:25+00:00

I will add that getting their beta bucks isn't as satisfying in the end as many come to resent these guys for not being the Chads they yearn for from their youth. So if there's some vengeance to be had, that would be it. On the other hand, these guys may eventually get divorced raped. The silver lining to even that cloud is that it is partly what's responsible for our growth, thus adding to our numbers of men who've been burned and teach the next generation what to watch out for.

At a meta level there's a silver lining in all of this: TRP is a cultural zeitgeist for men even if we don't intend it to be. Eventually the AF/BB game women have been playing since day one will come to a slow end as more and more men wise up. I suspect once we cross a threshold and this observation becomes common knowledge, that's the day I think we'll see a return to young women's sexuality being carefully guarded by parents, grandparents, mentors, and so on, and the gravy train that is hookup culture comes to a screeching halt.

What that will look like for society as a whole, I have no idea. Some may say this is a bad thing, but it depends on how you look at it. If you want to go the traditional values route and settle down young, then this is for you. If you want a hot young thin wife to stay home with hearth and home, this is for you. If you want far lower chances of being divorced raped by an alpha widow, this is for you. If you want men to have something to work for and build and maintain society, this is for you. The only guys who would really suffer are the Chads and top 10-20% of frat bros of the world who are running through women like crazy in college and just after.

JP_Whoregan · 2015-11-02T22:42:08+00:00

While it’s true that a number of women are able to game the system and secure a Beta Bux husband after years of slutting it up on the cock carousel, the plummeting U.S. marriage rate, particularly among Millennials, is evidence that an increasing number of women are beginning to suffer the consequences of delaying marriage after “exploring their sexuality” during their younger years.

Why is this happening? There’s a concept in economics known as Adverse Selection, which captures the idea of a "rigged" trade. When buyers and sellers have access to different information (asymmetric information), in the short run traders with better information about the quality of a product will have the upper hand and selectively participate in trades which benefit them the most.

In the long run, though, prospective buyers begin to figure out that the market is rigged and begin to assign lower and lower values to the product and ultimately withdraw from the market.

This happened in the used car market, where buyers began to figure out that dealers often lied about the quality of the merchandise they were selling. Before the creation of lemon laws, CarFax, CarMax and used car information services, it was generally understood that buying a used car was a big risk and that a buyer was likely to get ripped off, so consumers generally began to approach buying used cars with extreme caution or avoided buying used cars.

This applies to the sexual and relationship marketplace today. More millennial men are starting to wise up and question the LTR value of women in this generation after observing and hearing about them slutting it up during their teens and twenties. More men are beginning to not trust women when they report low N counts. This is probably a big reason why marriage rates are plummeting and the interest in TRP and MGTOW is exploding.

So there does appear to be some kind of karmic justice or at least a logical market reaction at work that will ultimately result in many women suffering the consequences of their carousel riding ways.

redzorp · 2015-11-02T22:45:52+00:00

OP is bang on.

I'm 50 now, so I've seen my fair share. All the sluts I have known, either personally or through extended social networks, eventually settled down with a beta bux. Every. Single. One.

Of course many of them settled with men way down on the social scale but the used up sluts hamstered their way into accepting that, either through mental gymnastics or by becoming born-again religious nuts.

The few cat ladies I have known were either extreme Alpha widows, devastated by some unrequited love. Or women with such low SMV that even homeless men would probably pass them over.

FrameWalker · 2015-11-02T20:22:16+00:00

Solid post, reminds me of this story about letting go

Worry about you, be the best you that you can be and get everything from this life you possibly can. Who gives a fuck if government officials or sluts are getting away with everything; as long as you're good, life's good.

Sdom1 · 2015-11-02T22:21:22+00:00

This doesn't just apply to Red Pill - It's called the Just World Fallacy, that there is somehow some feedback system that punishes the unjust and rewards the just. Just as its name suggests, it's bullshit.

I got this drummed into me by an older guy, a boss and mentor, in typically brutal fashion:

Me: Well, he'll get what's coming to him.

B: Seriously, that is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard you say, and you've said some dumb shit.

Me: What, why?

B: Because there's just no connection. People get away with all sorts of shit and live happy lives. You can be a good person who got fucked and end up in a pile of shit. As you get older you'll see enough examples to know this is correct.

In the end, this is just a way to make yourself feel better or a way to live with bitching out and not doing anything about getting fucked. Either way, stop. Either do something about it or let it go.

Me: Alrighty then.

He's absolutely right, and the older I get the more I realize he dropped some serious wisdom on me. He is something of a dutch uncle to me, but that's OK since most of his guidance has been spot on.

Codex_Dev · 2015-11-02T21:17:02+00:00

I don't think that's entirely true JP_Whoregan. Darlock linked to some current marriage studies not too long ago that showed marriage in the US is declining. Maybe not rapidly, but it's there. Not to mention all the men who are MGTOW. The future could end up looking similar to all the herbivore men in Japan.

Ultimately this will result in fewer betabux out there for women to get married to. While some CC riders may certainly hit the BB AF jackpot lottery, most of them will end up spinsters.

[deleted] · 2015-11-02T22:03:25+00:00

Fact is, society fucks men in terms of sex and equity in relationships, but that's why the top 5% of men pretty much run the world, while the top 5% of women run the school board. Stop fantasizing about leveling the playing feild and start climbing to the highest spot on the male side of said field.

mugatucrazypills · 2015-11-02T23:35:27+00:00

Time will take it's revenge, her eggs are dying and despite what you've read on here the supply of quality men is dwindling like some sort of desert aquifier.

It's all downhill for these these biatches. I'm sure she can cash in some 2nd rate food stamp beta bucks and a beta student loan for a 2nd rate night classes on the vag installment plan, but face it, after 35 everything in life will be regret. No more real earth shaking tingles for the rest of her life.

Another 45-50 years of watching her pancake tits in the mirror travel floor-ward and thinking about what was.

JP_Whoregan · 2015-11-02T21:00:05+00:00

Not every woman's life ends at 25 or and not every woman lives like a goddess forever. The obvious truth is that some women will be fucked, particularly the especially vapid or especially active. Some women won't be. Women can get away with more than they should, but they still can't get away with absolute pure hedonistic travesties. The wall is real but so is female privilege.

okkyle · 2015-11-03T04:28:52+00:00

/u/JP_Whoregan, I agree with spirit of this post. Newbies need to stop obsessing over their ex-gf's getting what's coming to them. It's really just a perverse form of oneites, and that energy would be better spent on self improvement. However, I think you're wrong in one important sense. Women aren't getting to eat their cake and have it too. They're losing. Feminism has wrecked absolute havoc on women and their prospects for long term happiness, and all the studies, surveys, and stats bare this fact out.

Surveys across the board show that women are now less happy than men on average, despite the face that young women now earn more than young men for the same work

There are more women going childless now than ever before.

I know this is all stuff you well know.

The results are in: Feminism destroyed the nuclear family, and it's a disaster for everyone. Men, women, and children especially. Nobody is winning, but men are better able to find solace and amusement in hobbies, games, and career pursuits. Due to the prolonged length of our prime SMV years, men are able to find gratifying sexual and romantic relationships well into our later years, even divorced men. I know the numbers on post-divorce men and depression and suicide are brutal, but from what I've seen, if a man can make it through those first five years after the split and rebuild his life, he ends up a lot happier in the long run, much to the chagrin of his fat, jealous, stretched-marked, alimony-collecting ex-wife.

As men and women age, women become both less happy than men, and jealous that men are happier and more carefree than they are, which in turn makes women even more unhappy.

You're correct, and in a sense many women do manage to "have their cake and eat it" by being crafty enough to ride the CC for just the right amount of time and hop to find their eager, flower-baring BB, but even these women don't end up for happy in the long run. The BB husband, the kids, the AF on the side, this is just a makeshift strategy that will not fulfill her the way a traditional style monogamous relationship with a high-quality man would.

So, again while I totally agree with your basic premise. Day dreaming about your ex getting what she deserves is beta, but you don't need to twist reality to your point.

Evileddie13 · 2015-11-03T01:26:44+00:00

Lmao, revenege porn is a phase in THIS redpill life. Then suddenly, 6 months to 3 years, down the line you stop giving a shit and work on getting yours.

[deleted] · 2015-11-02T20:57:53+00:00

Good timing. I have been freaking out about this shit lately.

There was a natural that grew up in my area during my youth. I saw him a while ago looking fucking pissed with a cigarette and shitty ass vibe about him. He walked ahead of a chick pushing a carriage, she clearly suckered him into fatherhood. Distastrous.

Theophagist · 2015-11-02T23:35:11+00:00

is it any real surprise that women don’t suffer consequences for their slutty actions?

Not the way we would like them to perhaps, but I am still of the belief that hedonism bears its own punishment. Of course I don't expect them to recognize the source of their pain.

MentORPHEUS · 2015-11-02T21:33:34+00:00

Living well and always growing and improving is all a man needs. I agree, all this time spent pondering revenge fantasies is worthless, and amounts to time taken away from self-improvement.

Thanks for posting what needed to be said.

boomerbux · 2015-11-02T22:26:18+00:00

I think this "revenge porn fantasies" come from a belief, that there is justice in the world. Everyone who did something bad, will get something bad in return, someday.

This is just another illusion from Disney stories that blue pill guys have. World is not a fair place, there is no justice. It's you against the world. No higher meaning.

Thotwrecker · 2015-11-03T07:14:31+00:00

This is a great post and I agree there's a dangerous tendency to invent these excessive "justice porn" fantasies as a way of feeling better. Nerds do it here for jocks ("they will be broke beer belly losers reliving their glory days while I run a hot start up") and it gets cloying - no dude, face the reality, SOME jocks will wind up like that, some will network well in college, get a cushy job, get fast-tracked to more senior positions because they are likable and confident, and will 30 years later still have a good life.

It's a very important point. But this being said, "society" or "the wall" does not punish these girls, but many do destroy their ability to find happiness. Years of high-excitement partying and slutting with alphas who discard her does not accrue "negative universal karma" but it does change her brain. It does ruin her ability to pair bond and feel in love and sexually stimulated by your typical above average, but still kinda beta guy.

Whereas in a time long ago, she COULD have been reasonably happy, in love, and even somewhat sexually stoked about banging the semi beta/alpha guy and being his woman, she now can't find any happiness. She craves the past like an addict craves coke - now from the outside her life looks good, she's got a beta husband to pay the bills, etc, maybe she has her fuck toy Chad. But real life is deeper than the picture - her marriage is pretty much doomed to be unhappy, her Chads start getting less alpha until she's actually the pump toy for betas getting their first taste of power / confidence.

Slutting and partying and being an LA girl isn't going to earn her the "universe's payback" but it will change her mind, and slowly alter her threshold for happiness, arousal, validation, etc. Making it so that even if she lucks out and finds an "fairly alpha with bucks" - aka the type of guy she could have had the Disney dream with - she'll not be satisfied. Alpha dick is like coke - the memories of how she felt when she walked past the line of the LA club and all these hot dudes wanted to get with her, and she had her pick... they stick with her and torture her. She'd give anything to feel that way again, and that's why these "ex-carousel riders" who do grab a beta generally are not very happy at all.

Yeah they can always find men to be into them, yeah they will never starve on the street like men when we contribute nothing to society. Some will be A-OK and be completely happy to leverage AF/BB to their heart's content. But most of them just become validation / stimulation junkies who like a coke addict spend their lives futilely chasing a high that's already behind them.

I think it's important to acknowledge both sides of the coin - some women ever from CC riding unscathed on the surface and it looks genius, like they got the best of everything. And some do, as OP mentioned. But I would venture to say that many of these women have changed the way their brain works to the point where they can no longer be truly happy. It's why chicks 25% on antidepressants and getting worse, and it's why some of the hottest chicks are deeply unhappy and dysfunctional - modern society fractures them, even though to us it often seems like they get their cake and eat it too.

HAMMURABl · 2015-11-02T20:54:47+00:00

I disagree. She will suffer - and her BB will too.

The chick, because she is an alpha-widow and will never be happy. And the beta, who will become the horse chasing the carrot.

You on the other hand, no matter what, will have learned to have rely on yourself. A woman will always be complementary in your life, never the main focus.

Finding and coming to peace with theredpill rules of life is the most psychologically stabilizing and fulfilling state a man can experience in the long-term, right after finding a unicorn. but unicorns don't exist.

[deleted] · 2015-11-03T18:12:53+00:00

Great post. Something every new guy needs to read. It will help him get past the anger phase a bit quicker if he understands this.

Guys: Your ex GF or that cock carousel rider you know is still going to get married if she wants to.

A few of the carousel riders you know, oh, one or two of them, will hit the jackpot. She'll find some natural alpha who really wants to marry her. They'll get married and truly live happily ever after. She will forget her carouseling days, because she fulfilled her objective -- she locked down one of the pretty horses.

The only drawback is that he'll likely cheat on her. In the back of her mind she'll know it; but she'll be OK with it. Being a natural alpha, he'll know exactly how to cheat discreetly without ever jeopardizing her position as his Number One; or he'll be so attractive that he'll do it more overtly but she will look the other way. She knows he's the best she's ever had, so she will quietly tolerate his philandering.

A few of the women will be left standing when the game of musical chairs stops, and there will be no men left. This will again be one or two of them. They will work hard at their careers and make the best of it. If they are still somewhat attractive, they'll keep dating lesser and lesser quality men until their SMVs finally zero out. Men are so thirsty, though, that they'll keep dating (read: Having sex with) those men for quite a while, well into their 40s. They will still get a few chumps to buy them dinners and drinks in hopes they'll get a handjob or a little obligation sex out of it.

But most of them, 85%+, will get married to average men, not too attractive but not total losers either. And she will like her husband, feel affection toward him, even love him and care about him. She even has a little bit of sexual attraction for him. Not like she had for the alpha hot guys she used to fuck. But she has a little bit. She doesn't mind having sex with him. She is willing to have sex with him. But she doesn't really want sex with him, isn't really hot for him. And their marriage will make it a long time, a good 8, 15, 25 years, even until one of them dies. Half of these marriages will go the distance, friends.

Those men will father their children and raise them. They'll break their backs for their wives who kinda sorta love them. And she'll appreciate him, kinda, watch TV with him, and go on vacations with him. She'll make budgets with him, discipline the kids with him, take the car in for servicing with him, go to school plays and football games with him, and decorate the house for Christmas with him.

But she'll never fuck him like she fucked Chad. She'll never toss her head back in lust; never lose herself, never shriek in orgasmic delight with him.

And she knows this. And she will say it's worth it, because she has what she needs now.

[deleted] · 2015-11-03T20:07:15+00:00

The hotter a chick is - the more likely she'll get ice cream and sprinkles.

When they know it (and most of them do) it makes them insufferable jackasses to be around.

Women like this rely on male thirst almost exclusively for just about everything in their lives. They do because they can - its just as simple as that.

Seriously, if we didn't love vagina as much as we do we'd tell them to fuck right off most of the time - but we do love pussy and in order to get the kind of pussy we want to get many of us are willing to put up with selfish, manipulative, asinine behavior we wouldn't ordinarily put up with from friends and associates.

However ultimately, the choice is yours of whether you want to allow yourself to enter a parasitic relationship with a self-involved floozy looking for said ice cream and sprinkles. We all have the power of self determination. You'd be surprised how many successful 40+ year old men laugh in the faces of former carousel riders for anything other than a POA. At this point men get wise. They know when a bitch is a total creep. When you have money and mature good looks at 40 years old, you will get pussy if you have any game at all. The best part is, you won't be on fire for it. You'll (or at least you should) have your sense about you to see clearly and make better decisions.

I've said often enough that the tables do turn in a man's favor post-35 years of age. They do, unmistakably.

Does that equate to a comeuppance? Karmic revenge? Depends on the girl. Do they all end up with an AMEX black and a Mercedes? The smarter, hotter ones do, but that's no lock by any stretch. In difference to what /u/JP_Whoregan is stating, I've seen more than a handful of former hot little pernicious 25 year olds end up as spent out 40 year olds - divorced with 2 or 3 kids just fucking miserable. Actions do have consequences, even for wicked-brained 25 year old HB9s. The ones that lose their looks fall down hard - and it can get super pathetic how sad and lonely they get. They put on 40-50 pounds and get severely humbled. The ones that keep looking good into their 40s continue to have dumb ass beta orbiters. Its really up to the character of the woman on whether or not she chooses to cultivate that kind of attention. It's the nature of the beast.

I've seen it many times a woman getting to the wall and then marrying some safe beta boy in a panic, only to divorce several years later. They either get euphoric recall about those days when they got throttle fucked by nightclub Chad, or more likely the safe beta bux guy they married ends up a financial disappointment. So they get divorced thinking the grass will be greener. Invariably they hit a divorced cougar phase where a few ONS with horny 20 something year old guys feeds their delusion for a little while, but eventually reality sets in - they NEED beta bux fucking desperately - not just because the Chads of the world are passing them over, its because supporting themselves without assistance FUCKING SUCKS. When the child support runs out SERIOUS ALARM BELLS SOUND.

Enter 40-45 year old successful dude. He hears the backstory, he already knows what kind of loser this bitch is. At this point, he's not even remotely thinking about shit like body count. Only things going through his mind are "Will I have fun busting many nuts" and "Am I going to get my cock enthusiastically sucked on a regular basis?" and "Does she have clue one about how to treat me/take care of a man?" and "Can I trust that this woman will act like a lady enough that I will be comfortable with her being a part of my life?". It won't take more than one night out for him to make his judgments. If she's hot and she fucks good, he might keep her around for a little bit, but if she's too much of a dumb selfish cunt at this stage of the game - usually men nope the fuck out with little to no regrets.

By the time a man is 45 years old and raised his kids, been through divorce, dealt with the fucking drama and the stupid bullshit and fucked his fair share of bitches fucking every which way but loose, so all the fucking mystery should be gone. If he's sitting on a few fat stacks then he's definitely choosy and probably spends a good part of his free time fucking 25-29 year old slutty carousel riders - because who the hell wants to sport fuck overweight hags with a shitload of baggage?

I can't speak for other dudes, but although banging out the young hotties really never gets old (really it doesn't), if I'm 45 years old, single and making healthy 6 figures - I'm probably just going to want to pump and dump carousel riders. The only way I'm thinking about a serious LTR for companionship is maybe finding that one woman closer to my age that still looks really good, fun to fuck and is close to unicorn status mentally and emotionally. No way I want to get involved at my age with a 26 year old woman for anything other than sex and past 35 years old the women that fit good LTR criteria are few and far between.

This is just my personal experience and observations with women beyond 30-35 years old.

vengefully_yours · 2015-11-04T11:25:17+00:00

Schadenfreude. pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune.

Both my ex wives provide me with plenty of enjoyment. I fucked them through their prime years, 20-28 and 21-30 respectively. Then both felt they could do better and hooked up with abject losers, the best they can get post wall. Meanwhile I easily pull younger girls, far better looking, my life is heading upwards again after the end of my divorce rape induced indentured servitude, and they are hitched to men going nowhere.

I wouldn't be better off with them, they were holding me back, draining me so I couldn't achieve my goals. The best thing they did for me was leave.

This required years to come about in the case of the first one. The second one wanted a loser, and I wasn't one so she left for one. Hell, she might be happy with his pathetic loathsome ass. Just because I can see the big picture doesn't mean they don't have exactly what they want. The first wants me back, but that's never happening. The second I have seen one time in the last 2 years, she was headed west, I was going east and noticed her.

Here's the point. JP is exactly right. Their lives don't matter to me anymore. I'm not forced to pay either of them now, so they're of little concern nor consequence to me. Yes they have fucked up their lives and I find it amusing, but it doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me, or affect what I am doing today. If I am reminded of them, and I laugh about it, and go back to doing what I do. I don't seek revenge, don't wish them ill, but it's hilarious how badly they fucked up.

Not every girl will fuck up like mine did, and it doesn't matter what they're doing, because she isn't fucking you, she not sucking your wallet dry, she isn't using her snatch as a weapon against you. She is out there doing what girls do best, leeching off anyone stupid enough to commit to and support them. It's not you paying for her bullshit, so so gives a fuck how good she has it.

It's not karma or justice, it's the results of her poor decision making abilities. Some bitches choose better than others. Most people think the second one has a better looking guy now, but only for now since he is 26, thinning hair, already has a double chin and jowls, and no muscle, but for the moment on the surface he looks better. So fucking what. She might be happy, I don't care if she is our isn't because I have my own shit to do.

Focus on yourself, ignore the dumb cunts from your past, build your life and enjoy not having that fucking bitch in your wallet.

SlowWing · 2015-11-02T21:01:08+00:00

Most whores may find their beta bux when they're done with the CC but he won't be me; and that is justice enough.

Also I'd just like to correct you on something. There seems to be this incorrect idea that at some point in time AF/BB were consolidated in one man. That golden era has never really existed and here is why. By definition an AF can not provide what a BB provides and vice versa. A man Alpha enough to produce the tingles required for AF is a man alpha enough to have limitless sexual options and alpha enough to exercise those options. A true AF is never going to give a girl his commitment. By sheer merit of his genetic superiority he is going to do what is in the best interest of his genes and spread his seed far and wide. The BB on the other hand does not have these options. His best plan is to focus all his resources on one woman instead of on multiple sexual partners. Women want the genetic material of the AF but don't want to share his resources and commitment with other women. So they get the genes from the AF and the resources from the BB. The two have always been separate and always will be.

4benny2lava0 · 2015-11-03T03:14:00+00:00

This was the realest shit ive read all night.

TheBlackPhillipShow · 2015-11-02T20:37:46+00:00

So what's the most condensed redpill you can give these BB?

What is the anitdote to the thirst?

I've got a buddy about to hitch himself to a couch potato airhead slut, right as his career is about to take off.

sir_wankalot_here · 2015-11-03T04:09:13+00:00

So the lesson to be learned here, gentlemen, is to ditch your revenge porn fantasies. They are no good for your psyche, and they are no good for the process of unplugging. Here at TRP, we prefer to deal in truths and realities, not delusions and fantasies.

Good post, been saying this for ages. The only difference between a CC rider of today and one of the past is that she was more discrete back then. Typical SE Asian scenario, girl tells her family she is going to the big city to get a job in an office.

But instead she works in a girly bar where she can make 10 to 20 times what an office girl does. Then after 5+ years she goes back home, and marries some guy who doesn't know she fucked God knows how many guys.

I am pretty sure the same thing happened in America 60+ years ago.

TRPtruth · 2015-11-03T06:44:57+00:00

She's not correct, and will not get the sprinkles, but who gives a fuck. A woman who takes more dicks than birthday candles on her cake every year is fucked psychologically and physically.

Door number one she ends up with a beta bitch (who does not provide her with the "lifestyle" she wants) and she takes Chad TC the side. She is psychologically fucked and tortured. She's an asshole to the people around her. Maybe has a kid here and there, maybe gets on welfare or pumps the beta for child support. Gets an STD. Enjoy that miserable life.

Door number two she guns for an Alpha or Beta+, but they wise up to her 1,000 cock stare and dump her ass to the curb as the crows feet start to appear on her face. While they could, they do not give her the lifestyle she wants either.

Door number three, she ends up 60 years old with 2 cats and best-of Chad TC stories for whoever will listen.

Thing is, I don't give a flying fuck. Worrying about "justice" is just more time and energy away from focusing on getting to what I want.

The chicks you see riding around in luxury cars are not reformed CC riders. These are chicks who got pumped hard and hooked in by Chad TC at 21. These are the only chicks smart enough to get the sprinkles.

In terms of us, the men, pussy pedestalization is not just about bowing down to the pussy, it's also about wasting time being angry at the pussy and hoping for the pussy's downfall.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Nobody, including hamsters, escapes Newton's law. All actions have consequences and will catch up with you sooner or later. Once you realize that you stop thinking about it.

KissTheBridesmaid · 2015-11-03T08:30:54+00:00

I do agree with that she will have her cake and eat it. I have seen it over and over again. Even if she comes out the other side of the cock-carousel with several alpha babies, she can find a man to take her in, pay for her children’s education and give her the lifestyle she wants.

But there’s a catch that you mention in your post, and I feel it’s worth expanding on it. The man who has both qualities combined no longer exists. The strong, stoic man who gives her tingles, sticks around and rewards her devotion with his time and resources, the man she truly desires, is gone. Feminism killed him. When female hypergamy is allowed to run rampant and even rewarded, there is not incentive for this man to exist.

I think this is an important point, as I firmly believe that the fem-centric climate we have been experiencing is making women miserable in quite a few ways, and this is one of them.

That cake she really wants? They stopped making it.

Point of this comment is by no means to encourage any Shadenfreude, I agree completely that the revenge porn fantasies are a waste of time and a breaking of frame that we should try and do without.

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DreadLockedHaitian · 2015-11-03T15:30:48+00:00

JP dropping the Gospel on a Monday night!!!!!

adam-l · 2015-11-02T23:35:05+00:00

The main point of the post is right-on. Even a short, 300 lbs (136 Kg) 40-year-old woman can be getting laid like crazy.

In S. Korea, there are 70 year-old women who get paid for sex..

Now if the belief that women will get punished when they get old is one fallacy, the romanticization of Marriage 1.0 is another.

Before modern feminism destroyed the concepts of manhood, it wasn’t uncommon for a woman to successfully consolidated her AF/BB needs in one, singular man. The strong, stoic type of man who tingled her vagina, whom she respected, and whom she gladly devoted herself to in exchange for his caring providership of her and their children.

Ah, the old, traditional Alphas... A myth. "She respected"? "She gladly devoted herself"? What, didn't you read The Manipulated Man?

Don't forget that what that era of women "respecting" and "devoting themselves to men" produced was exactly ... feminism!. It was the bored housewives of the rich suburbs that gave birth to "radical" feminism in the '60s-'70s. They didn't respect their husbands for working their asses out. They resented them, for "locking them in a golden cage". And those others, the "traditionals", who were contented to be housewives, buried them - outlived them by far.

I use two social variables to compare wellbeing. The first is happiness (measurements of subjective happiness), and the second is life expectancy (which is also a proxy for better health). In both these variables the difference was overwhelming against men during Marriage 1.0 times.

That the present is shitty for the average man, does not mean that the past was good. It was worse.

For more, https://TheEmpressIsNaked.wordpress.com

-Adam.

witdusername · 2015-11-03T00:05:13+00:00

First of all, it doesn't matter to me whether or not a woman gets to "have her cake and eat it too". If she can "have her fun" and then settle down with a tamed bad boy or a nice rich guy, then good for her.

But the fact is, only some women manage to marry the rich bb. If you look at the numbers, you'll see they don't add up. There aren't enough beta bucks to go around.

Let's do the math. I looked up some stats and did some quick calculations. The numbers may be a bit off, because these are rough estimates, but they should give you an idea of the situation.

I guesstimate that there are about 60 million women in the USA from ages 20-50 years old. There are about (guesstimate) 50 million Americans who make over $50,000 a year. Now let's make a guess and say 70% of those making $50k+ are men. That's 35 million men making over $50k.

Now let's guess that 1/2 the men making over $50k and 1/2 the women 20-50 are married. That leaves us with 30million single women and 17.5million men in the over $50k income bracket.

My point is, there are a limited number of beta bucks to go around. In younger generations women are out-earning men. Traditionally male-dominated industrial type jobs are disappearing, and women are earning more degrees than men. So it isn't all that easy for a woman to find a beta bucks who has enough money to provide her with the type of lifestyle she wants, and who is willing to commit to her (as opposed to just banging her casually or screwing her once in a while behind his wife's back).

TL; DR - There aren't enough high income men to go around, so a lot of women will have a hard time finding a rich enough guy to commit to them.

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CowardlyPetrov · 2015-11-03T02:57:18+00:00

let me add something else. if you are still hung up on being with such a truly shit person, then you yourself are shit.

[deleted] · 2015-11-03T11:53:22+00:00

My revenge porn stars me spitting into their mouths and feeling that overwhelming sense that everything is as it should be.

mister_dice · 2015-11-03T13:29:08+00:00

Just a question, why would you believe what women say about other women? It's about the roommate saying she had 30 guys in a semester, while it is surely believable, still, women will try to make others look bad, am I right?

BluepillProfessor · 2015-11-03T15:59:01+00:00

There are huge consequences for women. Not only will they just Starfish their unattractive Betas, THEY WILL HATE EVERY MINUTE OF THEIR LIVES remembering the HHAAAWWWWT guys who threw them around and fucked them silly while the Beta they married is not even a shadow of what they thought they would get. Sure they can pull a 2 or 3 SMV Beta any time they want- except that is NOT what they want. Not even close.

beginner_ · 2015-11-03T16:00:36+00:00

I agree with the conclusion that she will get her beta bucks and her family and house or whatever she wants, especially if she really is such a hot blonde. Question is, will she be happy? Happier than if she avoided the CC and married an alpha guy in her early 20ties?

Riddick_ · 2015-11-03T17:18:12+00:00

This Gospel Yes:

"So the lesson to be learned here, gentlemen, is to ditch your revenge porn fantasies. They are no good for your psyche, and they are no good for the process of unplugging. Here at TRP, we prefer to deal in truths and realities, not delusions and fantasies."

Destroy. Fantasies. Such As. Porn.

JumpXVI · 2015-11-03T18:50:30+00:00

And gentlemen, if you don’t think there are men out there who are thirsty, desperate, and willing to bang out a 38 year old 2 or 3, then I’ve got some land in the Florida Everglades I’d like to sell you.

There's a gigantic difference between "bang" and "marry".

And the kind of guy who is willing to marry a 38yo 2 or 3 is exactly the kind of man that is going to keep her hamster working overtime.

The actual marital value of an actual 38yo 2 or 3 is pretty low and your point was about banging. But even if we take a more realistic 38yo 5 who was a 7 10-15 years ago, and dozens of cocks ago, her hamster has to work overtime to keep her happy if she feels her husband is a mewling beta. As much as they have to do it to shield their fragile psyhces, I contend that women don't really like to have to hamster their happiness.

A woman would rather be wifed up and fucked silly by Brad Pitt's stunt double who makes $250K a year than have to sneak around on Tinder to fool her beta bucks husband, just to find some disease-free possible-Chad who isn't a "serial killer" and actually fucks her good. No matter how she justifies it.

The same woman dreads, nightly, the possibility of her beta husband meekly asking for sex "two weeks early". And she hamsters that she's tired or has a headache or feels bloated or whatever bullshit she has to churn out so beta bucks doesn't get mad. I hope my husband doesn't want to have sex with me... is some serious stuff to hamster. Yet there was a gilded post a while back by /u/Archwinger about women literally feeling raped by their beta husbands by whom the women are so "viscerally repulsed" and disgusted.

When she gets to the point where she feel like her husband is committing a jailable offense for asking one of the most reasonable questions in a marriage, she better have a seriously fit hamster, because she is unhappy as hell. The one person on earth logically immune to rape or sexual coercion in a woman's husband is regarded as some rapey threat for just asking for sex with his wife.

And this is assuming she's even good at covering up any infidelity—God forbid she get caught and has to hamster up some excuses and lies and arguments about "dont you trust meeeeee???" It's exhausting, even if women are better at such mental gymnastics than men (because women have to be).

moose_war · 2015-11-02T22:25:07+00:00

ditch your revenge porn fantasies

I agree. Which is why we should also ignore this

https://rationalmale.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/smv_curve1.jpg

Because it's a completely made up and subjective SMV chart that means nothing and gives false hope to a lot of men and will make them feel complacent to do nothing.

NightwingTRP · 2015-11-02T21:42:45+00:00

However, there seems to be a trend, a pattern in the comment sections of various different discussions here in the men’s locker room we call The Red Pill. It appears to stem from a sort of misunderstanding about “The Wall” from newcomers and assorted anger phasers, and that is this misappropriated idea that once our fluffy, little, acrobatic and beloved vagina operator, rider of the ever present and be-Chadded Cock Carousel hits the wall, that somehow her sexual and social lives are over, and come crashing down around her like a Syrian war zone leveled by ISIS artillery and grenades.

There are guys here that actually think that?

Luckyluke23 · 2015-11-03T03:05:49+00:00

it wasn’t uncommon for a woman to successfully consolidated her AF/BB needs in one, singular man.

this is so true man. way back before the modern dating shit show happened. there was only a handfull of guy available ( in a given area) so most of the time the guy are alpha. and decided to provide for the AFTER they got the sex from them, not before.

you can't go from beta bucks to alpah fucks.. but you can go from alpha fucks to providing for them if you wish.

with the way the world is pumped with social media now, and the amount of attention when can get now, they just stopped showing up.

so now, they wonder why the alpha isn't providing for them like they used to back in the day ( we have way more choice than we used to)

revenge porn fantasies.

the only time you should be doing this is if

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9twTtXkQNA

you are that degenerately broke you need the money to get back to 0

[deleted] · 2015-11-03T11:45:21+00:00

Actual TL;DR: nothing that hasn't been said here dozens of times before

RacialRealism · 2015-11-03T00:28:23+00:00

Not related but that fucking graph.

A 48 year old man has an SMV of an 8? WTF.

I'm assuming the major measure of SMV in this case was money, by the time you hit 48 your t levels are already dropping and you probably have cancer. I rekon 35 is peak SMV.

TheGurw · 2015-11-03T07:45:50+00:00

One small correction: the nuclear family never existed.

RedPillSpookyGhost · 2015-11-03T09:40:35+00:00

at least they are not happy

On Female Consequences and Ditching Your Revenge Porn Fantasies

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Title	On Female Consequences and Ditching Your Revenge Porn Fantasies
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