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December 10, 2015


Last weekend I got invited to my sister’s holiday party. I used some Machiavellian tactics to set up an optimal situation to meet women. Met a model who tested my frame to its core.


I love the holidays, especially in the city. Girls run around in their slutty Mrs. Claus outfits, slutty ugly sweaters (you’d have to see it to believe it), or you know, skin tight black everything. ”It’s just so festive!<3<3” Psh, whatever.

Anyway, last Saturday I was invited to one such party, at my sisters’ place no less.

S – “Ugh, The_Titleist, my roommates are throwing a party and didn’t tell me until the last minute. All we have is wine and it’s too late to recruit my friends. Can you come and hang out with me?!?!”

TT – “Tell you what, I’ll bring my vodka and whiskey and we’ll rock this party together” Until I find a hottie, that is. Quick note about my sister, she rooms with models, as such all her friends are hot as fuck. Seriously, the worst looking girl there was a HB7. There was not a snowballs chance in hell I was not going.

TT – “When should I be there?”

S – “Be there about 9” 7:30 it is

I decided to go early because I need to be part of the tribe before anybody is there. To the dumb sluts in NY, if you are friends with all the hosts, you are safe. It stops a lot of shit tests before they start.

I arrive at my sisters’ apartment. I get introduced to all four of her roommates. Is it bad if I hook up with one of them? I immediately squash that thought, I love easy pussy as much as the next guy but I cannot out of respect for my sister. She still has to live in that feminist hell hole. The roommates start chatting away. One asks me what I think of her outfit; I tell her she is the highest class of hooker (let’s call her Pretty Lady, she makes another appearance in this story). Another one asks me to take a picture of her; I tell her that she needs to work on her posing if she wants me to continue taking her picture. The roommates think I am hilarious, I get a "scolding" from my sister. Everything is falling into place

DISCLAIMER: If you deliver these lines like a punk they will not work at all

Having firmly established my frame on the roommates, guests begin to arrive. And because I have put in the work to charm the roommates, they introduce all their friends to me first. Preselection established

I decide to chill with my sister, her roommate Redhead and Redheads brother; I was invited to hang out with my Sister after all. I don’t need to force anything. We spend the next hour or so talking about whatever when Pretty Lady walks up.

PL – “Hey that girl has been staring you down.” Points to HB9 standing in the corner

TT – “and…”

PL – “You should go talk to her”

TT – “I’m kind of in the middle of something right now, she’s not going anywhere” I had been discussing my lifting routine with Redheads brother and I normally try to keep women from interfering in the will of Brodin.

PL – “I thought men were supposed to be strong and charismatic and just go” Excuse me? Was this a shit test, probably not, but my manhood has been challenged, There is no turning back now. I apologize to the brother and make a B-line across the party. Confidence is everything I stare her down as I approach.

TT – “Who do you know here?” (I like to open in such a way that the girl is immediately qualifying herself)

HB9 – “I’m friends with Redhead, we went to [college] together.” She smiles at me I’m in

TT – “Follow me” I grab her by the wrist and guide her to my alcohol. Establish dominance and escalate

TT – “What’s your name?”

HB9 – “My name is Model”

TT – “We’re going to do a shot of whiskey with vodka chaser”

Model – “What?!”

TT – “Don’t think and chug it” She takes direction well

Model – “That was a lot better than I expected”

TT – “That’s what they all say” Open ended statement, let the hamster spin

We chat for a while. She tells me she is a model for Ford’s models (hence her pseudonym) and just got picked up by [Jeans Company]. I tell her I used to be in the army. She tells me that she is new to the area. I tell her that I won’t be a very good tour guide since I live in the suburbs. She remarks on how I seem to know everyone. I respond by saying “I know”. And that’s when the shit tests start coming… Video game theory: If it’s trying to kill you, you’re headed in the right direction

Model – “Ohh, I see champagne, can you go get it for me?” Shit test identified

TT – “If you can find me some real glasses I’ll steal the champagne. I refuse to drink it out of plastic cups” Counter with a pressure flip

Model – “Pleaseeeeeeee” This one’s persistent

TT – “You have your instructions” I gave her that knowing look Maintain frame

Model – “ok fineeeee” she runs off to the kitchen giggling Shit test passed. I go get the champagne

We talk for another 20 or so minutes when I get hit with this one.

Model – “So you’re some kind of player, aren’t you” I fucking hate this one. Shit test identified

TT – “Not anymore, I’m a coach now” Shit test ignored

Model – “Really? What sport” She even pretended like it never even happened Passed

I tell her I coach youth hockey. She says she is a rangers fan. (Fuck the Rangers BTW) This is when I tell her that her hair looks great. I grab it by the base and start making out with her.

Model – “Don’t think this means anything is happening tonight” shit test #3

TT – “Of course not, who would dream of fucking a model” respond with agree and amplify

Model – “my boyfriend would.” Shit test #4 it’s about this time I remember she is a model and gets hit on all hours of every day. At this point I’m ready to walk away so I go nuclear.

TT – “He’s not here. I am. Let’s go” I lead her to the coat rack. She is not resisting my lead Giggity

Model – “But what about my friends” last minute resistance

TT - I point to the hulking dude they are talking to. “They look just fine”

The rest you can probably figure out for yourselves.


  • The hotter they are the harder they shit test

  • Put in the work to prime the party. You don’t get a chance with the model otherwise.

  • Abundance is everything. Once I decided that I was pretty much done with her, I felt the freedom required to seal the deal

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Title Runway Walk
Author The_Titleist
Upvotes 293
Comments 75
Date 10 December 2015 04:56 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]HS-Thompson75 points76 points  (8 children) | Copy

I live in NYC and have dated a bunch of models. It's just one never ending progression of shit tests and entitlement and requests for favors and princess behavior, I find your story highly plausible. Dating them is like the ultimate bootcamp for maintaining frame and not getting thrown off balance, when you get the hang of it hitting on normal girls is hyper easy mode.

They're so so pretty though, I regret nothing.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 33 points34 points  (6 children) | Copy

For real. It's not that they shit test any differently than anybody else, it's just how relentless they are about it.

[–]HS-Thompson25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

how relentless they are about it

Yup, it's never ending and overwhelming. They are just used to being waited on hand and foot and nothing you do will really ever unlearn them of that, though they can learn not to expect it from you so much.

Another thing worth noting is that dread game only goes so far with truly exceptional looking model/actress types. At the end of the day, you and they both know that they can pick up nearly any man nearly instantly, no matter where you are. These kind of women can get off a plane with no money and have a ride to the city and a nice hotel suite and dinner arranged for them before they hit baggage claim, it's just kind of the nature of the beast.

[–]psyyduck3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I don't get it. Why would you put up with that? I want someone who kicks ass and supports me. If all my "first mate" did was look pretty and shit test I'd fire her instantly. I've dropped better people for less.

[–]HS-Thompson19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

I wouldn't date a model type long term or exclusively, unless of course they happened to be incredibly well adjusted and intelligent personality wise also, but the reason to date them is fucking obvious I would think. Fucking a truly exceptional 10++ looking woman it's definitely something every man should experience a few times.

Also, women that aren't at least kind of annoying are pretty few and far between. Might as well have them look spectacular I figure. It's fun.

[–]babayega5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Adding to that, an arm candy like that is great DHV for networking with other high value men.

[–]billcosbyeatsbabies3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking a truly exceptional 10++ looking woman it's definitely something every man should experience a few times

at least a dozen times. as the dude above noted, its also awesome training for maintaining your frame. you get grade a pussy, it keeps you on your witty toes and other chicks fall head over heels for a dude spinning a model as a plate

[–]Luckyluke230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i like your post and they way you pointed this out.

[–]thepitman 87 points87 points [recovered] | Copy

These field reports always show me how bad I am with comebacks. This stuff helps in so many situations (not women related), good stuff! Thanks for the insight!

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 54 points55 points  (10 children) | Copy

Comebacks aren't as hard as you might think. Conquer your fear of not being "nice" and disregard the consequences of your actions. You will be surprised what girls will let you get away with. But for the most part its trial and error.

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[–]billcosbyeatsbabies6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

it will come. watch standup comedy, play mind-exercising games like chess or poker that get you thinking and maybe supplement with nootropics or microdosing . its all easily attainable

[–]Trpidation6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can vouch for the standup comedy bit. I've noticed that when I'm regularly listening to comedy (be sure to listen to multiple comedians not just one; otherwise you'll end up sounding like a copycat. Everybody hates that guy) I'm much quicker with witty lines and thinking on my feet. It also feels great to whip up quick zingers on the fly and to see other people's faces when you do.

[–]Seducibledotcom10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

What if your problem isn't being nice but actually being too much an asshole? Like an actual asshole, that's my problem.

[–]cdtCPTret5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

It doesn't matter much what you are as long as it comes from a place of abundance. Being an asshole probably comes from anger. Too nice from being needy. A "jerk" like OP is probably abundance, and it's palpable.

[–]Red_SoloCup0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A million times this. I'm naturally a very witty guy, but my natural wit is almost never "appropriate." As soon as I stopped giving a shit and let it fly, I immediately started turning heads.

[–]J_AsapGem0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

what i've realize it's not what you said it's how you said it, if you believe in what you're preaching you will get away with anything, that's the key to successful interactions, self belief.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (5 children) | Copy

Great field report 9/10.

I only really mark you down because you're an EC, you should be more in depth in analyzing what the shit test was and why your response worked, I get it's hard because it's so instinctual to you, but it isn't to the newbies and I would say the average terper.

Important note for all newbies reading, he constantly changes the way in which he answers shit tests, repeating one type of response eventually comes off as stale, especially if you're gaming in an area with multiple women who will meet and talk.

Model – “Ohh, I see champagne, can you go get it for me?” Shit test identified

Advanced level compliance shit test, she's testing how much power she has over the OP, most other men wouldn't realise it's a shit test "just a natural part of the game, the man pays".

TT – “If you can find me some real glasses I’ll steal the champagne. I refuse to drink it out of plastic cups” Counter with a pressure flip

This here folks is an agree and pressure flip, in this situation it's definitely more suitable than a pressure flip, because he has acquiesced to her, meaning she's more likely to acquiesce to him, even though now she has to acquiesce first, the power completely switches to his hands here and his shit test was so much more advanced than her's she didn't notice it.

10/10 OP, the most masterful response to a shit test I've read in at least the past 6 months.

Model – “So you’re some kind of player, aren’t you” I fucking hate this one. Shit test identified

Standard fitness test, she doesn't want hard yes or a hard no, because sleeping with a player outs her as a slut which she doesn't want and she obviously doesn't want someone who is low SMV. This is a fitness test because she's just checking his social skills and SMV, because he has to circumvent this and not give a hard answer, that still implies a yes.

TT – “Not anymore, I’m a coach now” Shit test ignored

This is really a misdirect, because OP has reframed the entire conversation to make it about him and make her interested in him, which is a high level response to a shit test. This sort of thing takes practice, in the sense that you need a silver tongue, though when it's a kind of canned line "You're a player aren't you" it's easier.

“Don’t think this means anything is happening tonight” shit test #3

Standard fitness test, she just wants him to be responsible for them having sex, because 'she's totally not a slut'.

“Of course not, who would dream of fucking a model” respond with agree and amplify

There's two main ways to amplify here, either your answer ("Of course not, I'm an honest catholic boy you know.") or her question which is what OP went for, solid answer, either works depending on how you say it.

“my boyfriend would.” Shit test #4

Nuclear level shit test, there's so much going on in the background of it, but she wanted a social convention bomb to stop OP. OP was getting too far, he was too charming, but she's at a party with people she knows and knows she has a boyfriend and "she's no slut!". So she tried to nuke him "Tee hee, thanks for the attention, you're so charming and funny but I have a boyfriend, we should be friends, I'm no slut!" surely everyone would stop at that.

“He’s not here. I am. Let’s go” I lead her to the coat rack. She is not resisting my lead

OP knows the game, she's not thinking no, when a women means no she thinks no, her body language goes cold and she tries to avoid the situation.

OP ignores her shit test, he knows she doesn't want him to answer, so he escalates with kino, if she thinks no, he's outta here, plenty more sluts to bang here.

“But what about my friends” last minute resistance

Just a standard fitness LMR.

TT - I point to the hulking dude they are talking to. “They look just fine”

She didn't stand a chance, standard A&A.

Great post OP, everything important is all there, and there's a lot for terpers to learn from, especially the advanced material.

You're probably the best new EC I've seen so far.

Take inspiration from him lads, it's that Christmas party time of the year, you can do it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you so much for the glowing review. I appreciate your comments and will go more in depth as my writing improves.

[–]harleyyyc7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

So how would you be able to tell if she's lying and doesn't actually have a boyfriend? I understand the boyfriend as a shit-test but what if you're the type of guy who won't fuck girls with boyfriends?

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Read her body language. I ignored her test and answered with action. If her body language goes limp than its a no go and I move on

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's a nuclear level shit test my man, it doesn't matter if she has a boyfriend or not, if you want to get laid you pass it. It's nuclear level because only those with no regards for social convention, and only respect for themselves will pass it. If you don't wanna get laid just say no thanks then, but it's your loss because anything above a 7 will have a boyfriend(s) around, whether it's their orbiter or the guy she's in an open relationship with, unbeknownst to him. To get laid on the principle of whether she tells you or not is ridiculous, more so if you don't even know the guy.

who won't fuck girls with boyfriends?

How many girls do you think you've fucked that had boyfriends and didn't tell you about it? Moreover if a girl really has a boyfriend that she considers a boyfriend and not an orbiter, she won't lead you on, the situation would likely have ended sooner or she would have sent you no IOI's if it was civil conversation.

Every boyfriend is Shrodinger's boyfriend, until you've met him he doesn't exist, even if he does exist, if he's essentially just her golden orbiter what's it to you.

Make your own decisions but unless you can come terms with it you'll likely just have to go for low hanging fruit.

[–]grillinwithkrillin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

u/suravira dropping knowledge.

Much appreciated, and great write-up by u/The_Titleist!

[–]our_guile22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not anymore, I'm a coach now

Lolz. You played the entire evening very well. Good work.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll be honest with you. I didn't realize how great that line was until I put pen to paper

[–]verify_account18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy

Great examples of the shit test and how you dealt with them; very helpful stuff. I really liked "They look just fine”

[–]el_superbeastooo23 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy

Agreed, my favorite comeback was "I'm a coach now".

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

That was my favorite one too. ;)

[–]little_steven4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very smooth, very classy stuff. I'm learning a lot.

[–]marplaneit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, I loled.. Gosh I will have to think something as awesome for the spanish versión of the shittest!

[–]NeoreactionSafe27 points28 points  (6 children) | Copy

This sounds entirely realistic to me.

And it points to the paradox of alcohol.

A little alcohol and you reduce your random thoughts and can focus better, but too much and you get tunnel vision.

The Shit Tests are traps. (you need your Fox nature to see them... the Lion nature gave you focus and courage)

So the alcohol gets you in the door, but then once up close if you are too drunk you start missing the tricky manipulations she will put you through.

I think the ideal level is about BAC 0.05 which is about two or three beers.

By five beers (taken quickly) you are just too buzzed to catch the Shit Tests.

...of course at five beers you stop caring which is kind of fun too.


[–]babayega9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

Alcohol reduces the focus, stims (caffeine) increases anxiety. Made a switch from alcohol to nootropics (aniracetam, phenibut, theanine). Was a game changer. Bonus: can drive around as needed.

[–]onepill_twopill3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I reckon for some people it can be different though. For me, when I drink 'thinking drinks' (aka coffee or energy drinks) I think too much and get nervous and anxious about everything. Alcohol reduces the cloudy overanalysis I do and everything gets easier and game improves dramatically.

[–]NeoreactionSafe4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Alcohol can depress your reactions, but it actually shuts down thinking and reduces the number of thoughts.

If you start with a hundred thoughts (anxiety) then alcohol can reduce it to a single minded focus.

But that focus can be stupidly emotional.

There's a country song:

Toby Keith - I Love This Bar - YouTube

...which captures this truth perfectly.


[–]oathcunt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm on the same boat as you, choline and piracetam work wonders. Though since piracetam makes you more 'sociable' it makes you overthink conversations/situations - I combat this with no more than 3 Coronas.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ha. I don't know how much she had to drink before the 3 drinks with me but by your definition I was in "Fuck it" drunk status.

[–]billcosbyeatsbabies0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yeah its such a fine line. i can clearly remember instances of failing a multitude of shit tests while ridiculously wasted and then doing it right the next time

[–]cashmunnymillionaire50 points51 points  (4 children) | Copy

S – “Be there about 9” 7:30 it is I decided to go early because I need to be part of the tribe before anybody is there. To the dumb sluts in NY, if you are friends with all the hosts, you are safe. It stops a lot of shit tests before they start.

This is crucial to being the life of the party. You also get to greet everybody as they come in and learn names slowly instead of all at once. If you start the party, you control the frame of the party, including the fact that you are the life of it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 21 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy

I was not the host, I played no hand in the frame of the party. I did this to establish preselection, nothing more.

[–]cashmunnymillionaire8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you say so. Pre-selection is a matter of frame control if you ask me.

[–]1cmkinusn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

seems like his part of the party was rather small, about in line with any of the guests really. He definitely wasn't focused on the party as a whole.

[–]babayega0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I should start doing that. I am always over an hour late. Working on managing time better.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

At the end of it all, who cares. She was right and everything worked out for me. Who is to say that without that push that I would have still took that opportunity? I think you're overthinking this

[–]2awalt_cupcake6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

He has a point, you acknowledge her point and go to qualify yourself for her. As a rookie, this kind of stuff throws me off as well so clarification would be helpful.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I did some cost benefit analysis. I don't care about PL. I had already made a decision to leave roommates alone. Therefore it doesn't matter if I'm beta in her eyes. Also the opportunity to talk to Model was too good to pass up

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This was straight by the book, nice work.

Dealing with HB9-10's a whole different ball game. Like most of game doesn't even apply.

It gets easier at a party with a lot of hot girls, where the HB9 has equal value to other people there, and you by being there, have value. But at a party with the whole range, where she is the hottest girl there and she knows it? That is an entirely different ballpark and requires game that is on fucking point (a good physique helps).

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Best FR in a while, perfectly annotated, thanks OP.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I appreciate that. I just hope through these FRs that someone in the community can recognize and demolish these situations when they find themselves in them.

[–]CharlesThundercock4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Stay frosty you glorious bastard!

I don't come to TRP that often these days, but THIS kind of shit makes me all kinds of warm and fuzzy inside. Once you've really internalized TRP you see life through this lens, and it all just works.

I got all jacked up reading this FR then drove to Whole Foods to grab myself some Sushi and Pizza for lunch, honestly sort of reflecting on how much better my life is post-TRP. As I'm walking towards the Sushi stand, I notice that the only really hot checkout girl who works there is working.

I've never talked to her before, but I'm feeling all badass from reading this FR. I grab my shit and head to her line.

Her: Hi, how are you today?

Me: Feeling sort of guilty actually.

Her: (concerned look) Why is that?

Me: This piece of Pizza for one.

Her: (confused grin) Why would you feel guilty about that, you're super buff, you must work out all the time.

Me: I did some jumping jacks in gym class once.

Her: (giggling) If that's the worst I think you're ok.

Me: I also almost ran over a Goose on the way over here....intentionally.

Her: (giggling again) Geese are assholes, they walk soooo slow when they see somebody coming their way. I have a confession.

Me: I'm not a Priest.

Her: (huge grin and a bit lower lip) Me and my dog were in the park a month or so ago and there were all these Geese...

At this point, some nerdy old guy has gotten in line behind me, and huffs that we're taking so long.

Her: (go to Hell look on her face) Um, there's no waiting in that line over there. (he scurries off shaking his head). (sheepishly giggling) I guess I have something to feel guilty about now, I'm NEVER mean to customers. Anyway, me and my Dog are at the park and there are all these Geese and I tell her LET'S GET EM and she goes chasing after all of them and chases them all away. She almost bit one of them.

Me: You monster.

Her: I know, right. I'm glad I met somebody else who hates Geese. So is that all you have to feel guilty about today?

Me: Well, I guess you could add lightly flirting with the cute checkout girl at Whole Foods to the list.

Her: (blushing and looking down and away like a shy little girl) And why would you feel guilty about that?

Me: Because I'm married to one of the like, three white chicks other than you in this city that has a nice round ass.

Her: (turns around and sticks her ass out trying to look at it then me) You really think I have a nice ass? Thanks! (gets a bummed look) Your wife is really lucky, there are no "men" in this city.

Me: Yes she is. I had better get hopping before I have more to feel guilty about. See you around.

Her: (disappointed yet aroused look) I can't wait.

So now I'm all high off of that little interchange, sitting in my car eating my pizza and I text the wife.

Me: I need your ass, have it good and clean (read: enemas) and prepared for me when I get home.

Her: What are you going to do with it?

Me: Have a deep conversation with it. Just kidding, I'm going to pound it senseless.

Her: Any other requests?

Me: Demands.

Her: Any other demands?

Me: Yeah, fishnets, platforms, and pigtails.

Her: Somebody is specific and demanding.

Me: Somebody is feisty. Since you're so feisty you can add the mean corset to that list.

Her: Ok baby, I'll be ready for you.

I love this shit. It's going to be a good weekend. I take that back, it's going to be a good life.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire22 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Excellent insights here regarding preselection.

The same thing happened to me in college. Some female friends threw a party. I arrived early. This cute girl saw that I was buddy-buddy with them and it made it SO much easier to hit on her. Come to think of it, my friendship with them and then preselection it entailed helped me hook up with another one of their friends.

[–]douglas_yancie2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This feels like being on the JV team and watching a Warriors gm while Steph Curry goes off for 40 looks so easy...i play ball too, but im not that good yet...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

How do you do logistics at your sisters place with you being out in the suburbs?

Ignoring that she might be from close by.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Uber, bro. Uber all the way

[–]rp_newdawn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

i loved "that's what they all say"

learning to make the hamster do my work for me is definitely an area I could improve more in

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That was insane. Thank you for the play-by-play breakdown. You are inspiring!

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[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

A nuclear shit test is when someone does something which violates conventional social boundaries in order to see how you will react. She went nuclear on my by declaring that she had a boyfriend right after I said to her face I was going to fuck her. So I returned fire by telling her. "I don't care about Schrodingers boyfriend, I'm fucking you now." In effect it was like going all in in poker. I made a bet that my frame was greater than hers with sex on the line, and won. I could just as easily have lost and been forced to jerk it instead.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If this happened the way you described then congrats, excellent display of value, you acted in the way I intend to act all the time, you got rewarded because you passed everything flawlessly

[–]R3v4mp3d0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Amazing! Great way of giving a FR and also great content in it. It was a 5 minute read on my phone and I clearly learned something from it -> it was enticing and succinct.

Question: since you got a HB9 to bend over for the D, are you a HB10? I want to understand how high a man can pull from the HB scale. Yes, people say that looks don't matter so much for women, but a male HB 5-6 is clearly disqualified (in my opinion) by a female HB 8-9. Also, if to this we add the fact that girls don't date down, then...? (someone please fill the gap)

Edit: correction.

[–]grillinwithkrillin1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Her value is pretty much all based on physical appearance (model = high value).

Our value as men is not nearly as conditional on appearance - OP's attitudes and behaviors were on point in this scenario, literally branding him as high value in the woman's eyes.

Bold, socially savvy, leading the interaction, strong frame overall - these traits make up the woman's equivalent of what guys would call an HB10 (HB = hot babe btw).

Appearance certainly matters, but behavior matters more - let's say OP is a 5 on the looks scale - but his behavior made him a 10 in her eyes, hence her going home with him. Physical appearance is just icing on the cake.

[–]R3v4mp3d0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Thanks for the clarification. I thought HB = hot body.

Regarding the looks: funny enough even my gf repeats quite a lot that: "looks matter for women just marginally. If you're a guy that doesn't look repelling, that's enough. What matters more is the attitude and the behavior!".

Although everyone seems to point to this,I find it hard to internalize; especially since I saw that the hotter you look as a guy, the more you get a girl's attention. Does this happen because she perceives you as also having an awesome character given that you have an awesome body?

[–]grillinwithkrillin0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Physically attractive people tend to get more attention and are generally treated well - this is called "The Halo Effect". If you've not done so, definitely look it up as it will shed some light on your questions.

That being said, there is a lot that goes on in between "getting her attention" and "spreading her legs" - this gap is bridged by the intangibles on display in the post.

A better-looking man will generally have an easier path to sex with a woman he just met, but he still needs game/intangibles to seal the deal - good looks just "get your foot in the door" with less effort.

As for her perception of a man's physique - well...when you see a guy with an impressive physique, you may think "good for him, he probably worked his ass off to achieve that, hard work pays off!" Men might perceive him as having a great character but, 9 out of 10 times, women will not.

When she sees that same physique, she doesn't ponder the work that went into building it - she just feels attraction towards the guy (tingles) on a gut instinct level.

Women generally don't care about the hard work that went into building that body - they would rather "have" a man who is naturally built like an their hypothetical offspring would be more likely to prosper. This isn't a conscious choice she makes, it is just what her brain signals to her body - purely biology at work.

[–]R3v4mp3d0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've read of the halo effect but I thought it applies especially to women.

You cleared up all the rest; so it's basic instinctual attraction based on which she considers you to have better genes.

Thank you.

[–]dlstove0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This was a good story. But I'm glad we both agree fuck the rangers, devils fan?

[–]mousemaker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great FR, thank you for sharing. What did you mean by, "deliver these lines like a punk", though?

[–]1PantsonFire12340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Typical army guy. Stays calm and gets the job done efficiently. Well done. Just another AWALT example.

[–]TheQuestion780 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Video game theory: If it’s trying to kill you, you’re headed in the right direction

Upvote for this comment alone. So true in every video game lol. It was great to see it applied to the real world/shit tests.

[–]J_AsapGem0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This was very neatly and nicely done, i like the way you passed the shit test. Man just wish my self confidence was as high as yours, in a shitty position in life but trying to make the best of it.

[–]Fulp_Piction0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

"I'm a coach now" - Fantastic, I'm stealing that.

But explain your reasoning behind approaching Model just because PL told you to. She wasn't going anywhere, while it worked out, you qualified yourself. I understand you were never going to go for PL, but women talk.

Nonetheless, a great submission. Keep the posts coming.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All anybody will be talking about is how I picked up model, not how (trigger warning) beta I was with PL. Besides I thought it was funny.

[–]KareemAbuJafar-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

There was not a snowballs chance in hell I was not going.

That means there was a good chance you weren't going. Gotta take out the first not.

[–]Mons7er-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure Bro, this totally happened.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

those shit tests were nothing lmao

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