Operation "No Pay": Houston woman goes 31 dates in 31 days via Tinder

JamesSkepp · 2016-06-01T07:18:33+00:00

Operation "No Fucks Given": Houston man goes 31 pumps'N'dumps in 31 days via Tinder.

BTW: gentelman, you have my (and should give it to yourself) permission to treat any and all woman as sexual objects ONLY, without any regard for her feelings, opinions and other irrelevant stuff.

Here are the rules:

ANY converstion has to have sexual context. (you say "the current interest rates of china are a threat to small buissness in south east asia" while visualizing fucking her - this is FYI how you create sub-communication).

ANY interaction must end in either pushing things "FORWARD" (open>push for meet> push for pull to your place. etc) OR if she refuses "HARD NEXT" (dump her then and there, no reason, no explanation, no contact). IOW she has to experience "I'll either let him escalate or he'll next me".

ANY "hard next" must be followed by immediately (as soon as it it possble in your context) switching to next hot girl in your sight (use "hey newgirl meet my sister oldgirl" in club/pub - works/tested - social proof for new, competition/withdrawal for old).

Repeat.

"Maybe that’s wrong, but I have 30 other women who are willing to do that.”

foot_odor · 2016-06-01T07:17:59+00:00

anyone she would never normally date just because he asks her out, like a guy with kids or a guy just trying to hit it and quit it, or a short guy

I don't need to point out the hellfire that would come down if the roles were reversed and "short guy" was replaced with "fat girl".

dr_warlock · 2016-06-01T03:49:49+00:00

1) Validation to women is just as good, if not better than sex (not relevant to below).

2) Before agriculture, a man sometimes had to come back to a woman with a dead deer, proving he was able to hunt, thus provide food. This was a time where women couldn't just go to super market and buy it from the money acquired from a job. There was no supermarket. There was no money. There was no job (time served in exchange for money).

A man's hunting ability actually had value because she could never do it herself due to being pregnant for most of her child bearing years (no contraception or pulling out). Even then, women aren't built for that. Seriously, look at this shit (persistence hunting AKA outrunning your prey). This is where your ancestors came from.

Now the modern form of hunting in the concrete jungle is called a 'job'. After the industrial revolution, society has freed women from the limitations of their biology to 'hunt'. A woman's love means she needs you. But now she can hunt a deer too. But what good is your deer if she can get one herself? Hypergamy dictates she perceive you're better than her. Now to impress a woman with provisioning, you need to hunt 2+ deer instead of one to stand out. Your provisioning power is judged on a relative scale (%), not absolute. It's not like she makes 40k a year, then come up and say you make 41k and she will be intrigued.

Conclusion: If you're not noticeably more financially successful, your provisioning won't impress her.

kofybean · 2016-06-01T04:33:19+00:00

Its actually a refreshing read. I mean, her dating frustrations are absolutely a joy to witness. It is clear most guys are feeling her out, but since she's trying to use them for dates she just rushes to whoever is desperate enough to jump at her beck and call. So she's missing out on all the good guys and gets supremely frustrated that she's not getting many second dates (cuz guys aren't so dumb). Her most common frustration is guys no "planning" anything, but at the same time its obvious during the feeling out process she gives off really bad vibes. She has her friends do really creepy things like stalk the men and take their pictures, and she complains that she isn't getting to know people, but admits she doesn't respond to their messages. Her self destruction is refreshingly hilarious.

kofybean · 2016-06-01T05:50:54+00:00

relatively crazy life experience

Going on a bunch of dates? The absolute madwoman. I hope she gets a memoir deal. This level of self discovery and intellectual envelope-pushing needs to be shared with the masses.

/s

RedxDevil · 2016-06-01T15:04:59+00:00

Remember, gents:

Women are just fine with "women's liberation". They are fine with being free to have sex with whomever they want, whenever and wherever they want, for whatever reasons they want. But when you get all the way down to it, women still expect men to adhere to very traditional gender roles -- including provisioning (even if she outearns him) and exclusivity (even if she cheats on him).

TheRedStoic · 2016-06-01T12:28:53+00:00

Nothing new here. Plenty of girls I've had openly mention their meal tickets and support betas. This is standard. Hell, one of my acquainted spends the weekend afternoons working on his female friends cars for free. I was over when it happened a few Saturdays ago and wouldn't lift a finger. The result; she gave me her number as he complained that real men help women out.

Whatever, she got 5 hours of master tech service done on her car, drank free beer, and got to chill with me.

He got another round of laundry and more oil on his fingers, at least he got a hug goodbye.

This is the world women live in. Tinder meals are standard. They don't even need Tinder to do it.

beachbloke · 2016-06-01T02:48:27+00:00

I'd be like "hey, I'll be right back. Gotta pee" and then make a B line right for the door. What an entitled brat.

2016-06-01T06:13:47+00:00

But there's a base element that women like to be around men.

The fact that she has to SPEND TIME with men to earn this food shows that women deep down know they are inferior to men, even schlubs.

She knows that a man's company is worth more than hers. Although as men we undervalue our own time and women overplay theirs.

I wouldn't want to spend time with people in that situation, I'd rather go earn the money to pay for 31 dates than I would sit with someone I found lesser than me.

2016-06-01T07:11:08+00:00

Calling it a Social experiment makes her feel extra special! It takes away all the guilt, because she is helping ALL people in her own little special.

a1004 · 2016-06-01T10:40:33+00:00

If a woman do something like this, is fresh journalism and research.

If a man do something like this, happen this: http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/01/jared-rutledge-pickup-artist-c-v-r.html

VasiliyZaitzev · 2016-06-01T11:49:55+00:00

she originally told herself she can’t tell any of these men that their date is part of “No Pay May,” because let’s be real, what guy is going to understand a) why she’s doing this and b) that she swears she isn’t using them for the free food? (But, well, it is a great bonus, she admits.)

Bullshit. That's a lie she's telling herself. She's as much of a food hooker as our old friend, Jessica Sporty, who described getting guys to pay for her to eat at restaurants she could not otherwise afford was her own "Sex and The City", and that if a guy had ever asked her to split the check, she would have thought, "Well that's not very traditional", while hamstering away that needing a spreadsheet to keep track of which guys you've fleeced for expensive dinners somehow is ok.

Alphaemote · 2016-06-01T15:05:30+00:00

This is a big day for me gentleman, this post didn't even anger me a little bit. Like not at all.

Anger stage finally vanquished after years!

grewapair · 2016-06-01T18:49:25+00:00

One of my ex friends uses Tinder like an ATM. She is very skilled at upselling. "Hey, how about a drink" is met with "I'm hungry."

If you suggest a restaurant, she'll suggest a nicer one. By nicer, I mean a minimum of $100. If you say no, she has 50 other eager betas willing to do it.

She doesn't really like men. What she likes is food. She has no money (she's a student), so she solves the inconsistency of her love for food with her lack of funds by using tinder.

There are almost never any second dates. She complained to me that she had to spend so much time on it. "Can't they just give me the money?"

She's had guys spend hundreds of dollars on her on a first date. Those guys do get a second date: only if it's another expensive dinner. One guy made the mistake of buying $1000 concert tickets (front row) for the second date. She no showed him.

Another guy made the mistake of inviting her to a museum. She had enough confidence in her ability to turn that into another expensive dinner. She showed up to the museum, told the guy she was too hungry to go in, he took her to dinner.

How do you screen for this? NO dinner on a first date. Maybe drinks, but at a venue that doesn't serve food. Don't be a beta.

Blue-22 · 2016-06-01T02:00:22+00:00

I'd get the whole "social experiment" side of it...if not for the "I didn't like him enough to pursue a second date" comment. That just says your motive was to steal the guys' money.

If you want my time, you are paying your fair share.

RealMcGonzo · 2016-06-01T05:25:06+00:00

after some small googling, she is working for H&R Block as Tax preparer.

Added: I never know any accountant is this creative.

Added 2:protips, don't date accountants.

Added 3: just look at how women set their standards and manipulative they are.

http://imgur.com/oNitQYr

EmbarrassingBoner · 2016-06-01T12:28:23+00:00

So many Red Pill truths can be found in this entire sham.

mikesteane · 2016-06-01T02:33:45+00:00

“If you’re not willing to be generous enough to spend $10 on me, I don’t know, that was my thing. Maybe that’s wrong, but I have 30 other men who are willing to do that.”

15 other men. If you're willing to buy a woman's company, you only count as 1/2.

Sdom1 · 2016-06-01T16:17:57+00:00

Her blog is interesting and reinforces RP thought. Take this quote, which I'm going to break into parts because there's so much here:

Because I’m a fun girl, Anal Bandit asks if I want a second coffee. See… if you committed to something more than a coffee date, you could spend more time with me. I’m hesitant but agree to stay for another coffee.

Women lie to themselves quite a bit, as do men. See, she's already checked her box off, has her date for the day. She doesn't really like spending time with him (the anal rape story didn't help) and then she basically does a time/compensation calculation like a lawyer tabulating billable hours. So what are you really doing here? You don't like spending time with him and don't really want a second coffee.

When Anal Bandit returns with our second coffees’, I ask him why he invites women out for coffee. Long story short, it’s cheap and quick for him. For some reason I take offense to this. When did it become “okay” for men to treat women like they’re quick and easy?

Interesting question, even more so in light of the fact that you're allowing your time to be bought for a soy latte. If only there were an answer somewhere else in your post. I'm sure I'll find it.

Anal Bandit is a great guy, truly. I would like to go on another date.

Huh? What?

Tall. Fit. Put together. Digging his style.

DING DING DING! We have a winner. So let this be a lesson to everyone - lift weights and dress really well. If you can be tall it's a nice bonus.

forscienceyeah · 2016-06-01T10:58:10+00:00

A gal tells you she's dating other guys while she's on the first and only date with you, she's pretty much telling you to get lost, not inviting you to double down. I was floored reading only one guy wasn't seeking her approval.

TheGatherHunter · 2016-06-01T03:21:45+00:00

Some men seem to want to keep messaging her back and forth for days before they ask her to dinner, which annoys her.

She wants to efficiently use men. Why should she have to put any effort into it, like typing a few lines of text, before they open up their wallet to her? Poor gal. I think I shed a tear for her.

HAESisAMyth · 2016-06-01T17:10:17+00:00

This woman thinks she is SO special.

I hear if you die surrounded by cats, they end up eating your face. That's what the guy should have told her and fucked off to let her pay. She had saved enough.

MAWL_SC · 2016-06-02T05:08:57+00:00

It's now time for Free Poon June.

Heathcliff-- · 2016-06-01T14:09:29+00:00

Back to the anger phase it is...

MattyAnon · 2016-06-01T14:18:41+00:00

it’s about how deeply seated gender roles really are that in almost every case, they don’t change.

Indeed... women don't change and men are forced to go along with it. It's not men that are hoping to pay on dates and hoping that she'll say no at the end of the night.

It's all just hamstering to manipulate guys into buying her a free meal.

There’s no, let’s just go out with this cute girl and see what happens. That’s how a date should be. But they overthink things so much

Of course we fucking do, we're the ones that are paying!

If this dumb bitch wants to take me out for an expensive meal and try her best to charm her way into my pants, we'll see how she feels about my "let's just see what happens" attitude.

KainXhun · 2016-06-01T02:05:04+00:00

Just a reminder..

Some men seem to want to keep messaging her back and forth for days before they ask her to dinner, which annoys her. But while conventionally she and her friends have always expected the men to put in the work to get the date, Smith said that no matter how many times the man might reach out to her to talk, the fact that it’s through online dating just makes it all seem lazy.

Go out there and approach in person.

jb_trp · 2016-06-01T16:22:12+00:00

“If you’re not willing to be generous enough to spend $10 on me, I don’t know, that was my thing. Maybe that’s wrong, but I have 30 other men who are willing to do that.”

$10 for an hour of her time? That's a pretty fucking cheap whore.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-06-01T22:34:47+00:00

Those broads are right about the overthinking part though. If your constantly engaging women with the idea of fucking or LTRing things will sting for you.

Every women I was successful with pre-TRP and even now came from a moment of spontaneous fun and no expectations.

Here's the joke though. THE MOMENT you stop having expectations and try to enjoy the moment, she's all sold and all ready to expect a truckload from you.

optimumone · 2016-06-01T23:29:25+00:00

Jesus... this is a man's forum. Stop Bitching.

Women -- at least good looking ones can do this on tinder to SOME men. Many men,however, ain't paying for NOTHING until there is some skin in the game. (pun intended) In fact, there are some men on SM sites who are not the slightest interested in a women unless SHE can provide a home, car, stable job.

This time, this place, these years, a decent looking woman has a some sexual value/power. Its just like many single men F*(^ing the shit out of the desperate single moms looking for husband and dad for Jimmy.

It is what it is.

Men still get to be men the rest of our lives and that far more than enough for me.

icecow · 2016-06-02T00:00:32+00:00

When a date brings up eating have her choose the restaurant.

When check arrives direct it to her, "I enjoyed myself. Thank you for inviting me"

FatFuckJay · 2016-06-01T11:54:02+00:00

She's built like a 2"x4". Any loser wasting money on this is desperate on a level I've never known. http://nopaymay.co/

verify_account · 2016-06-01T16:14:03+00:00

Smith can’t date anyone she would never normally date just because he asks her out, like a guy with kids or a guy just trying to hit it and quit it, or a short guy.

Even post wall women hate manlets.

etherealembryo · 2016-06-01T16:54:22+00:00

Sounds like reverse pimping. She wants the 30 guys to give up what matters to us and she holds herself sacred. Why guys are so desperate is beyond me.

full_package · 2016-06-01T19:42:48+00:00

If any of this is making you angry, check yourself, mates. While slightly delusional about some topics, she's quite honest about the dates.

If you're into online dating, her blog is a decent read into female brain.

2016-06-01T20:56:30+00:00

A great example of why covert contracts are to be avoided at all costs.When dating, get your return before you make a major investment.

ChadThundercockII · 2016-06-01T23:33:30+00:00

Oh fuck. That broad is skinny as fuck. It I wanted to bang boys, I would become a pedo. Maybe she really needs those meals after all.

mikazee · 2016-06-02T02:36:53+00:00

She can offer to pay — but if she does, then it can’t count.

that she swears she isn’t using them for the free food?

lol. It's literally called No Pay May.

Spiderjoy · 2016-06-02T08:53:40+00:00

While man practice their "game" SMV and all that shit to barely get a date a month and some pussy.

She can have 31 dates different tall handsome man everyday and get free fully paid for dates 30 times.

LOL men are useless dogs.

stawek · 2016-06-01T10:14:44+00:00

It would be sooo satisfying to doxx her and make her face go viral as "that chick who scams people for meals".

Il128 · 2016-06-01T16:53:23+00:00

FYI There are a shitload of ebeggars on Tinder.

Not only do they demand 666. They want a deposit in their PayPal before they'll let a man take them out.

gonorealover · 2016-06-01T21:40:33+00:00

“If you’re not willing to be generous enough to spend $10 on me, I don’t know, that was my thing. Maybe that’s wrong, but I have 30 other men who are willing to do that.”

Honey I've had women spend 10x that much on ME on a first date. I still never put out for her though...

ChadThundercockII · 2016-06-01T21:52:47+00:00

which, after she dated guys every day for weeks, had evolved into a social experiment

"social experiment" or how to eat for free for 31 days and save money.

“I didn’t like him enough to pursue a second date,” Smith said. “If you’re not willing to be generous enough to spend $10 on me, I don’t know, that was my thing.

Compare it with this:

But if there is anything that Cathy Smith has learned during the course of Operation: No Pay, it’s about how deeply seated gender roles really are, and that in almost every case, they don’t change

but..but... this is clearly a case of learned misogyny/s

The hypocrisy and hamstering is strong with this one.

bisjac · 2016-06-01T22:10:52+00:00

Thats basically why i wont use dating sites. Its just a free meal for these woman to man-shop with no end in sight.

Red_Brain · 2016-06-03T11:44:37+00:00

There's a website for this experiment, it's at www.nopaymay.co

rpthrowaway4 · 2016-06-01T13:27:37+00:00

Tinder is a waste of time in my opinion. If you have to hunt, you've already lost. Put out bait and see what you catch. In the meantime keep improving yourself.

WeedDaddy · 2016-06-01T01:52:24+00:00

It's been ages since I've found a woman this funny. Much better than the self-professed female "comedians".

Title	Operation "No Pay": Houston woman goes 31 dates in 31 days via Tinder
Author	EmbarrassingBoner
Upvotes	161
Comments	163
Date	June 1, 2016 1:21 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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